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Kenny Florian the artist (not the fighter) will have physical advantage on August 8

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"I have never said I was a fighter. I am a martial artist and that is an important distinction for me. There is a lot of beauty and art in what we do ... It is important to respect the art. That’s the reason I am here, because of the art and those who taught me. I will have the advantage physically (at UFC 101) but BJ (Penn) has great natural talent and balance. Winning the title would be an honor. But the real challenge for me is BJ and beating a guy with the skills he possesses."

Number one lightweight contender Kenny Florian shares his thoughts on earning the second title shot of his career against a man who he clearly respects, reining 155-pound champion BJ Penn. Florian dropped a blood-soaked unanimous decision to Sean Sherk for the then vacant division title at UFC 64: "Unstoppable" back in October 2006. He has not tasted defeat since, winning six straight against many of the best the class had to offer. Now he gets a second bite at the championship apple, which is set for UFC 101 on August 8 in Philadelphia. Who ya' got?

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bj for the win

by brandon sigmund on Jun 8, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I cant stand hearing Kenny speak. I dont even like reading what he says. Cant wait to watch BJ show him what a champion-level-fighter is all about!

by john on Jun 8, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will start showing Kenny more respect once he proves that he can get past sherk….which I still have my reservations about!

by john on Jun 8, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he fought the sherk that fought a few weeks ago then yes he would beat him! i think he has a decent shot here, but its hard to know what bj will turn up, will he still be hungry for competition? the only way i see florian winning this is via ref stoppage due to a cut from a florian elbow!!

by jslim on Jun 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

bj “the excuse” penn will lose his title and probably blame it on the weather in philly

by brendan on Jun 8, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

kenny wins this via decision..

by RoB on Jun 8, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I’m thinking too RoB. Very rarely to we agree, but I think Kenny takes a close Majority Decision.

by Synyster on Jun 8, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

OFF TOPIC
Rumors say that Roy “Big Country” Nelson and UFC vet Wes Sims will be on TUF 10.

by Synyster on Jun 8, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way big country on TUF or even worse Wes fn Sims. I thought UFC management passed up on Roy coz of his non fighter look? So many better guys but oh well. Anyways, though this doesn’t really make sense in this post – “To the death.”

by NameNotRequired on Jun 8, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

for real?

nelson would do alright~

but sims? lol

by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those were some pretty “artistic” elbows Florian was dropping on the back of Lauzon’s head.

Haha, had to say it. Go Kenny.

by Jeremyjackson on Jun 9, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roy “Fat-fuck” Nelson is on again? Hmm, good luck to both of ’em I guess. On the other hand, yes, Kenny could beat the new “stand-up” Sherk. But if Sherk goes back to his old “wrestling” ways, then goodbye Kenny! BJ FTW!!

by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 9, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

When is the Diego vs. Clay-n-Pray Guida fight on? tUF finale?

by john on Jun 9, 2009 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

June 20!

by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks…you like that? Clay-n-Pray? hahahaha

by john on Jun 9, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol!I Love it…Clay-n-Pray is now a John™ .

Sorry JJ to use your tm again!

by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 9, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can also be used interchangeably with “Lay-n-Gray” Maynard. lol.

I didn’t make that up myself, just thought I’d throw it out ther.

by Synyster on Jun 9, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, that works too Syn!

by john on Jun 9, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m claiming Lay-N-Gray and demand full credit and reverence for it! And possibly royalties.

by PW on Jun 9, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clay and Pray, I love it. Anyway, Kenny has a great shot at winning, BJ hasn’t seemed focused on the LW division for a while and overlooking Florian would be a huge mistake. Hopefully BJ has stopped whining about the GSP defeat long enough to train, he’s the best LW in the world but talent can only get you so far.

I can’t dislike Kenny, I prefer the true martial artists like him, Maia and Machida over the brawling thugs any day.

by David W-S on Jun 9, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha! PW is one of the better guys on this site for creating fighter nicknames! gotta give him his props!

by john on Jun 9, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t stand hearing KENNY speak? BJ is the biggest crybaby in the sport. I can’t stand hearing Baby Jay speak. Can’t wait till Kenny shows him what a real mixed martial artist is all about.

by RealDrew on Jun 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with RealDrew. Kenny is a classy guy that, if loses, will not come up with 1000 reasons why he lost. Class & respect. War K-Flo!!!

by neeko on Jun 8, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

cry baby? we will see whose crying when battered and humiliated in the crowd…k-flo is good but not on bj’s level…bj will rip kenny on stand up…he will show no mercy and it wouldn’t be even funny for you guys…

by gaara on Jun 8, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it’s funny to me now gaara, hehe! Go BJ! shut these K-Flo fans up!!

by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 9, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know Kenny has been training for BJ for a long time, and you know Kenny will have a good game plan. I say Kenny wins by decision and marks the beginning of BJs downfall. U know Kenny has the ability to annoy guys(huerta) and we know BJ gets easily frustrated, I say that’s how the fight will go.

by Damian on Jun 9, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love BJ as a fighter and think he is by far the most talented LW, but I still see Kenny taking a close one by UD/SD. Like Damian said, its going to be all about his gameplan. We are going to see A LOT of stick n move and off angles from Florian. I think he will get in, get out, force BJ to chase him, use counters and look to wear down his cardio. Kenny loves to faints and I expect to see a lot of them to set up leg strikes.

by Cole on Jun 9, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I cant believe you guys cant separate BJ’s skills from his personality. YOU guys are so blinded by your dislike for his personality, that you guys have written him off as a fighter. I hope all you dilusional fans all bet your money on Ken flow, so I can get great odds on BJ and laugh my ass off all the way to the bANK!

All I know, is that had this match up taken place before the GSP/Penn fight, NONE of you guys would be picking Kenny to beat BJ. nEWS FLASH: Kenny is not GSP!!!! hahaha, you guys are nuts, but I love you FOCKERS anyway!

by john on Jun 9, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a fan of both guys and I don’t mind who wins, but Kenny’s too good to right off. He’s no joke like Joe Daddy and actually plays to his strengths unlike Sherk, so BJ will have to be at his best to win this and so far it has been Kenny who has been saying and doing all of the right things. BJ will have to get his act together if he is going to win this fight.

by David W-S on Jun 9, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

John, you say you can’t believe guys can’t seperate Bj’s skills from his personality but they shouldn’t. Reason being, his personality ties into his psychology while fighting. I can’t believe guys can’t seperate his talent from the amount that he actually uses. I get excited for every one of BJ’s fights but more and more I want to see him lose because I have seen too many athletes waste the talents they have. BJ exemplifies wasted gifts. Kenny might not have the raw talent but will win this by bringing more to the fight. A diversified attack, intelligence, conditioning, and way more heart.

by pjj on Jun 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am actually a fan of both and have been a fan of Kennys after his first few fights where he kept proving me wrong, I doubted him since. I actually had Kenny for a descision win before BJ got beaten by GSP. On paper it may well be the case that BJ is better in this area and BJ is better in that area. That may well make a lot of difference if he was fighting somebody ranked #4 or #3, but I do not think it will be a major factor with Kenny once they are inside the octogan.He Definately has the tools to beat BJ, and he has proven time and time again that he can always rise to the occasion and prove the doubters wrong.He will be hungrier, I think mentally stronger and his cardio could well be a deciding factorand I think BJ would have seriously underestimated his skills. Sherk beat him with pure roid strength, nothing else. Sherk wanted nothing to do with Florian on his feet. If he had fought Florian the way he fought BJ then Florian would have beaten him for sure. He just used his power to take him down and keep him down, but he was definately not the more skilled or better fighter.I don’t mind who wins but I think the hungrier Kenny will take it.

by Ade on Jun 10, 2009 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

cant wait for kenny to destroy crybaby bj, and retire him from mma. i dont see bj winning more than 1 round. kenny is not same fighter as 2 yrs ago that lost to sherk. bj on the other hand hasnt improved one bit, just as gsp showed when he toyed with him. i see kenny picking him apart with his incredible kicking and muay thai, and also being physically stronger, since gsp is training him. I could see him winning the clinch game, and mixing putting bj on his back with his wrestling, combined with his striking to keep bj of balance. kenny will be the new lw champ

by dtoto on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree I like what he says in regards to breaking down fights but lately when he talks about himself it just rubs me the wrong way "I’m a martial artist " whatever!

by Robert(1) on Jun 9, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

ken-flo FTW
i just cant wait to hear bj cry and make excuses after this fight(i actually find that, funny) i just wonder what will be the excuses!! lol

by JoW on Jun 8, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

does anyone know here how i can fight friends online in undisputed? when i host a session a random stranger turns up straight away.. on playststation network

by markg on Jun 8, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

does anyone here knows why my xbox doesnt work anymore! the lights around the main botton turn from green to red and the xbox of a friends happen the same thing is this something that happen often or what?

by JoW on Jun 8, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRO!!! you got the red ring of death!!….haha that microsoft for you! lol…not laughign at you man that sucks for sure. Xbox is freaking junk…its so limited to what it can do unless you mod it illegally…anyways you will have RMA the junk and wait almost 6 months to get it back. maybe microsoft will tell you its a BIOS error or your ISP’s problem.

by santiago69us on Jun 8, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a 360 but I’m assuming it’s the same. When you are making the player match and are choosing the options, at the bottom it says something about Privacy settings, turn them on and you will only be able to fight someone who you invite, no one will be able to randomly join.

by Tom on Jun 8, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before the 360 came out, a buddy of mine modded my original Xbox. It could play dvds,could save full games to the hard-drive, and do all kinds of sh^t. It was pretty cool. Till he played around too much and f^cked it up beyond playability. Still cool though. But I’ve always been on Team Sony Playstation.

by Synyster on Jun 8, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst thing about these new consoles is the fact you can’t save your characters and take em to a mates place – WTF is the point of the memory card??! You have to make all chars on one bloody machine or it just says there’s no save file on memory card etc… Gay.

Not tried it online yet, how does it play? Laggy or ok? (I realise this isn’t a gaming forum but I can’t really punch people I don’t like here anyway ;))

by Jimrod on Jun 9, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

On PSN you have to go to PLAYER MATCH then set up what settings you want and change private settings to YES. then on the charactor selection screen press start and go invite your friend.

by Eagzy on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Syn
Did you see what I propose you the other day??

by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

yo, how do I take a players back in the video game…I just got it the other day!

by john on Jun 9, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get it john?
If you mean a player that you create in you career…I don’t think you can do it.I’m not sure though!

by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 9, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

no…when Im fighting someone, how do I take someone back, sink the hooks in, and go for a rear naked choke?

by john on Jun 9, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alpha. I missed your comment.

by Synyster on Jun 9, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

how do I rear naked choke someone in the UFC video game?

by john on Jun 9, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve survived the red ring of death twice now, really lucky. I’ve already lost 1 360 to that damn fault but I got a new one for free off Game, no questions asked.

John, I usually end up with my opponent’s back when they reverse me from mount then click the right stick and you do a rear naked choke. I think you can take their back by transitioning from sprawl as well. I’m hopeless at submissions though (I can only submit the CPU on easy mode) so I’m the worst person to give you advice.

by David W-S on Jun 9, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Syn should know that though…me too i’m too novice to give advice.

Syn iwas saying the other day that I honestly didn’t have time to play last week,but I was thinking to challenge you on a 5 to 10 games/weeks.That,would be an easier way for me to learn the move.Plus I don’t mind the loss on my record.So if you agree we can start in the next week…just give me dates and hours that you think to be available and i’ll work something out!

by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 9, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll send you a message on PSN. I’m bumming at home this summer, so I’m practically always here. But yeah, check your messages later on today and you’ll be able to get in touch with me.

by Synyster on Jun 9, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Machida may have started a revolution, of sorts. I mean, you’d have to credit him for bringing the “art” back in mixed martial arts.

by Jono on Jun 8, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

BJ will win, but it wil be a good fight!

by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

art will be subbed up his ass when he faces a hungry and determined shogun

by gaara on Jun 8, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think so gaara, Shogun will just gas in front of Machida’s face. his reckless, all-out chute-box style back in Pride won’t work with Machida. Shogun must actualy be in the octagon with rampage for them to beat Lyoto.

by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 9, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

really? ok syd…just feel delusional for saying so…i actually believe that someone who can clinch machida will have a 90% chance of winning…and we all know shogun has some of the most devastating clinch in the game…and by the way did you see machida in a fight eating knees? NO! youre going to see it when he fights shogun…machida really doesnt have anything..just a plain karate guy with very technical,awkward counter punching…a manuel marquez in mma…that’s just simple facts…he will be stomped by shogun!!

by gaara on Jun 9, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you do know Machida has a Black belt in BJJ too right? Throw in his awkward trips and I don’t see him getting stuck in a clinch for long… He’s beaten many good wrestler/muay thai/bjj guys before (Tito, BJ, Rashad etc).

by Jimrod on Jun 9, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

gaara…

last i remember, Machida is a BJJ black belt and trains with Blackhouse along side with the Nog brothers and Anderson Silva. Not to mention that Machida has viciously finished his last 2 opponents. To say Machida really doesn’t have anything is plain wrong.

I like the Shogun from his Pride days. But who’s made the better transition? Hands down Machida.

It will be a great fight…nobody has ‘stomped’ Machida…I doubt Shogun will be the first.

by TabascoSAUCE on Jun 9, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wont be the least bit surprised If Shogun submits Machida. I know that Machida is nice on the ground. My boy PhilQny has actually rolled with Machida, and Phil knows jits, and RAVED about Machida’s ground game. BUT IMO, Shogun easily has the best jits in the UFC LHW division, and is more then capable of submitting anyone.

I am a die Hard Machida fan for years now, as well as a shogun nuthugger. not sure If Shogun can pull off the win, but I am certain that he will impress everyone on this site by the way he performs against Machida. Win or lose, all you fickle fockers will be right back on the shogun bandwagon! Its sad that most of you guys switch favorite fighters after every single event, but hey…to each his own! lol

by john on Jun 9, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don’t see anyone beating Machida or Andy for that matter, right now they are on another level and nobody has come close to beating them.

Shogun is a world class fighter, but he has shown glaring weaknesses in his wrestling and cardio, plus he’s never been known for his patience. He has as good a shot as anyone, but I don’t see him or Rampage beating Machida.

by David W-S on Jun 9, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

who i got?? like always…. BJ!!!! however, kenny DO HAVE a chance here.. nowadays, BJ is not feeling the hype of fighting anymore.. kinda sucks, but i guess you lose it some time in life, right? haha.
BJ by submission (RNC) via third round.

by boardRIDER on Jun 8, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

How cute, ms Florina.

by Green Inferno on Jun 8, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

it will be so nice to watch kenny get gurt. it would be nice to see him cry. get to see the look in his eyes when he realizes he will never win the title.

by jj on Jun 8, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

kick his ass Seabass!!! seriously though i hate Florian. I was a huge BJ fan until the whole “Greasegate” fiasco. Now i hope Kenny elbows the crap out of BJ and cuts his face up. BJ has really disappointed me with his whiny attitude. take the loss like a man.

by SpiderStyle on Jun 8, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahh, yes… how did I know all the BJ Penn nuthuggers would be out in force for this one.

I have bad news for you. The first round will be a standoff. BJ will gas midway through the second (as he always does) and Kenny will have him.

Read it now and believe it when it happens. BJ has a ton of natural talent but not enough discipline. This time around won’t be any different.

by Ronnie Coles on Jun 8, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

BJ doesn’t “always gas in the second,” that’s ignorant.

by Space on Jun 8, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah guys, sometimes it’s the third. Give credit where it’s due.

by Chalkbot on Jun 9, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

no you guys take this one…and when bj is done obliterating florian…you guys can be back in full force to make excuses for florian…this fight wont have any excuses…kenflo is good but not on bj’s level…

bj by decapitation on 3rd

by gaara on Jun 8, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put some cash up or STFU.

by Ronnie Coles on Jun 8, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much cash you willing to put of KenFLO biatch! Im done name the amount BJ wins IMO and Im willing to throw down cash

by lokie on Jun 9, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tell me the last time BJ gassed at 155? Your an idiot he has to show up in good shape to make weight jack ass!

by lokie on Jun 8, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im going against the grain …Im gunna say Florian 3rd or 4th round submission…..

by $Curt$ on Jun 8, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

If you guys think BJ is going to steam roll Kenny you’re in for a rude awakening. Kenny is going to outwork BJ and put him away

by zachy on Jun 8, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Another thing, BJ cardio has yet to be tested at LW, believe it will be come August

by zachy on Jun 8, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I think BJ wins this fight. Not in dominant fashion like he did against sherk and stevenson but it might even go to a decision. I don’t think Kenny can take BJ down at will and as long as BJ can avoid those nasty elbows he will be just fine.

by jimmy_dean on Jun 8, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

WAR kenny Florian!

by TRIKZ on Jun 8, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Bj by savage beatdown and licking blood off his gloves at the same time haha
 
Tko 2nd rd

by phenomenal angel on Jun 8, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Im the same with the playstation I dont know how to send messages or add friends??

My username is steviemo10 so if anyone can add me and fancies a few fights lets get it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still think that everyone a suprised at the bj v gsp fight, however as much as i like florian he is no gsp. I see bj getting the win although it will be a close fight as florian is much improved himself!!

by mo on Jun 8, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

set your games to private.

by adam. on Jun 9, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny Flow has this one in the bag!

by ntvmma on Jun 8, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m rooting for KenFlo all the way. My heart, however, tells me that Crybaby J will win this contest – and rather easily at that…

by BigRedOne on Jun 8, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t believe this fight is taking place 20 minutes from my house!!!! My first live MMA event and a helluva card!!!KenFlo by decision. i dont think he’ll be able to knock him out or submit him but i do think he will out work him. BTW my gamertag on Xbox360 is Turnbull6661 if anyone wants to play some undisputed.

by Tom Ace on Jun 8, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

With bj i just dont get his mindset. He wants to be the best fighter in the world without working hard at it. Has bj penn gotten better in the last 3 years? No, He has the same skills with a little bit more motivation then before. U look at all the top 5 pfp fighter gsp,machida,Silva they all have gotten better. Then u look at bj and he is the same with better cardio. If bj actually had a real training camp with actually good fighters i think bj would be insane. U not going to beat gsp when ur training wit troy mandoliz and kendall grove. I know bj is a great lw champ but he could of been something better and i know he wants to blame it on other shit but really the only culprit is him.

by desperus on Jun 8, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

amen.

by pancake head on Jun 8, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ is one of my favorites…

BUT

Preach on Brotha!

by SoCalStunNa on Jun 9, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I used to be a BJ Penn Nuthugger to the bone, until the whole GSP greasing thing. That whole thing was just ridiculous. I want Kenny to win so that BJ will wake up and realize that his training is bullshit.

BJ needs to close his gym and go train with a good team like American Top Team or something. An asswhoopin by Ken-flo will help to steer him in the right direction.

by BadNutz on Jun 8, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree BadNutz That Grease crap GSP got put on him was Gay and not fair I hate when people have to cheat to win.

by mak on Jun 9, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

So okay,let me get this straight. Bj is a cry baby because GSP was caught GReasing and he tried to take legal action.You guys are so lame. So,if someone were to beat GSP,and get caught greasing,will GsP let it go down like that. I agree,Gsp had BJs number that night,but he did get caught greasing. So where is the justice for that. This topic should be done,but it pisses me off that people are still hating Bj for doing what a lot of people would do in his position.

by mmasmartass on Jun 8, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m hoping that a lot of people wouldn’t make ridiculous and unfounded steroid and back-of-the-head strike allegations while bringing their mommy to speak on their behalf.

BJ is stoked that he can now claim that he didn’t lose the fight fairly and that (LOL) the outcome might be different if they fought yet again. But if the opportunity to fight GSP again actually arose, I guarantee BJ would want nothing to do with it. He just likes to pretend he wants another shot at the guy who utterly destroyed him and would easily do so again.

GSP was found to not be in violation of the rules. Phil Nurse is a moron but GSP is NOT a cheater, while BJ most definitely IS a little bitch. Case closed.

by Jeremyjackson on Jun 8, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word!

by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reopen the case:

BJ is a sore loser. BJ is a whiner. BJ has lost alot of fans.

However, BJ fights for a living when he does not have to.

That is not the definition of a bitch.

by OJR on Jun 9, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got BJ in this fight but I think Florian will have give BJ the most problems of anyone in their weight class. I’m going to say BJ in the 2nd or 3rd.

by Brent Collier on Jun 8, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I say that BJ gets this fight in round 2 or 3. Florian will give BJ the most trouble in this weight class though. I think BJ’s boxing is pretty good and his jits is awesome so I don’t think Florian has a good chance at a win.

by Brent Collier on Jun 8, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

BJ BJ BJ!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 8, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

whats up ,Adam g,you only show up on BJ threads now,huh.

by scott on Jun 8, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

His input is as valuable as ever.

by Jeremyjackson on Jun 8, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol~

by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

by SoCalStunNa on Jun 8, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah you guys do not have to be so hard on him,besides the standard war bj chant that he does ,he is usually pretty knowledgeable

by scott on Jun 9, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know scott~

adamg is my g~ and he knows no disrespect was meant..

it was just a good joke from ol’ jeremyjackoff~

by stinky~fingers on Jun 9, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

everybody is in a good mood tonight,I am glad to see you switched your name back,I just think it is funny he was on here all the time back before the GSP fight ,now he just pops in and out only on BJ threads

by scott on Jun 9, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a good joke JJ!
Scott,Adam G must be busy with his NAVY training(I know he’s suppose to be in the ARMY.But I find the NAVY more suitable for his case).

by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 9, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think if BJ loses this fight, and im predicting he does we wont hear from adam g anymore. I predicted a total mismatch when he fought gsp, and that he wouldnt win a single round, and would be one of the worst mismatches ain championship history and i was right. im predicting bj doesnt win more than 1 round sgainst kenny, bj is just a lazy slacker, with no dedication, hard to be motivated having multi-millionaire parents, and being a pampered momas boy. Anyway bj retires after being humiliated again, and losing badly. kenny isnt the same fighter from 2 yrs ago.

by dtoto on Jun 9, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong b*th! Ill be on here for the rest of my life or til this site is gone. I only pop in on Penn threads for a second because there is nothing to say. Good match up i guess cause theres no one else but really, i mean really? Do i really need to argue about how BJ will beat a guy named Kenny? That rag doll Sherk tossed around for 5 strait rounds?? And “dtoto” . . . Dude, where were you for the GSP fight . . . You and 75% of the dudes on this site are less than a year on this here, or what us 5 year MANIA participants call “newbees”. When ever im not on here when you think i should be, its probably cause im banging your mom, not cause im blah blah blah. Love the support for the peopele that stil stand by BJ, oh and 2 years agao or not, BJ would beat Ken then or now bro. BJ = #1 LTWT in the world . . . Kenny, doesnt even break the top 5. And if you try and tell me he is #2 ill laugh you off this site. Try these out first, Sherk (Kenny hasnt and probably wont ever beat him as he has changed also) Cavalacante, Johansen, Melendez, Gomi, etc. If Faber was n the weught class he would be above Florian, if Torres was in the weight class he would be above Florian too! When Penn fights Torres to move back up the P4P ladder to move into the 4 spot then ill waste my breath on you, til then im not that interested is all. (and yes P4P list looks like: Silva, GSP, Fedor, Torres then Penn, im a realist) BJ BJ BJ!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 9, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

BJ Penn by smash out! Duh lol.

by xxBAxx816 on Jun 9, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

huh

by SoCalStunNa on Jun 9, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah after his crying about greasing I tend to think of him as Blow Job penn!! I say its going to b bj giving kenflow a bj in round 2.

by adam. on Jun 9, 2009 2:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Really original…

by xxBAxx816 on Jun 9, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bj is the best in the world at 155 which is where he belongs.

This fight will not even be close he is ganna dominate florian in the same fashion he was dominated by gsp at 94.

you cant help but to admire BJ a true fighter who could care less about limiting himself to guys his own size. the guy has got bigger balls than 97% of the fighters in the ufc He is one of a select few who is constantly looking to challehge him self by stepping up in wieght to fight bigger guys and it finally backfired on him last time who cares at least he had the will and courage to try. people seem to forget in 2004 he was the WW champion after beating the bigger stronger hughes in his prime. and now hes the LW champ and only the second fighter in UFC history to hold two belts in two different wieght divisions.

henderson, courture, penn, silva, these guys are a rare breed of fighters when most guys are looking to drop down in wieght dehydrating themselves like a raison so they can out wiegh there opponent by 20lbs at fight night. Im not a fan of those guys and we all know who they are.

BJ is now hugrier than ever to redeem himself. his second loss to gsp has lit a fire in his ass. the cocky shit talking penn who wants to promote the fight is gone and now kenny is ganna be made an example of

you always here fightes saying anything can happen in an mma fight. well not in this fight. Theres only two outcomes in this fight florian gets stopped early or florian takes the five round beating of his life bank on it!

by dia mette on Jun 9, 2009 2:52 AM EDT reply actions  

finally someone on this thread has some sense!

by john on Jun 9, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bravo!!

by xxBAxx816 on Jun 9, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ by brutal and savage knockout!

by Sofa-King-Toasty on Jun 9, 2009 4:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Rather kenny than fatty BJ

by Keyvan on Jun 9, 2009 5:47 AM EDT reply actions  

iv got florian in this fight. his got abou an 60-70% chance of winning this fight over bj due to the following facts..
(1) bj does not have a good shoot that could takedown kenny. kenny was defeated before by sherk and sanchez because of their takedown obtaining the dominant position and control kenny from the top enroute to victory.bj does not have that skill
(2) given that penn has lousy takedowns, he wont be able to take florian down ..penn however has excellent takedown defense meaning florian wont also take penn down..bjj wise both fighters cancel each other skills out..based on previous fights, both fighters are not that dangerous from their backs
(3) this forces penn to stand and trade with florian..and this is where florian has a slight advantage..penn doesnt often check kicks and does not utilizes kicks, he has great BOXING skills..unlike pennn, florian has a more diverse arsenal of strikes which could pose some problems with penn.kenny’s leg kicks are great and the reach and range of kicks could spell the difference in this fight..
(4) finally bj gasses alot..like it or not, he still gases at 155..given that he is more acclimatized at this weight class, kenny’s pace will gas bj after 2 rounds and kenny will frustrate bj ala pulver 1 and caol uno 2..

by jace on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Bj has without a doubt the best boxing Kenny will ever see at 155 and those hands are heavy unlike Ken flo’s. Believe me Kenny will try to take BJ down in this fight, no way he will stand with BJ.

by Parks on Jun 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a BJ Penn fan but i keep hearing all this he is the most talented guy and i disagree.

He is the best at what he does BJJ and boxing but other than that where is the other aspects of MMA that he is so talented?? Just cause he knocked out Sherk with a knee doesnt mean he knows muay thai. All i am saying is that there are tons of things BJ could do but doesnt and to me he is not using all of his potential talent. Just my opinion.

Kenny uses just about every aspect of the game and that is why i believe he will be champ. Same with GSP, same with Anderson, Same with Lyoto.

by TexasBOY on Jun 9, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

How does Florian win this fight? He is at a disadvantage on the feet and on the ground.

His jits is good, but nowhere near the level of Penn’s.

His striking is very polished and dangerous, but BJ has some of the heaviest hands at 155, and an iron head to boot.

Florian won’t be able to take BJ down. BJ destroyed Sherk…the same Sean Sherk who beat Florian.

Florian beats every other Lightweight besides the one who has the belt.

by MMAMoneyLine on Jun 9, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

100 % agree MMAMoneyline

by mak on Jun 9, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well someone could pass florian a blank canvas at the end of the fight and make a nice blood painting and boom..he is an artist.. i really only like bj at 155..and when he is not saying anything..i just hope for an exciting fight.

by sarah on Jun 9, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

the artist is going to get jacked up by the Master! I bet the house.

by mak on Jun 9, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t stand Florian!! So F-in ARROGANT!! Look at that expression on his face… never changes. This guy takes himself waaay to serious!

by craig on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I love how you guys all call bj a bitch and a crybaby and claim that he doesn’t want gsp, when in reality not only does he have more heart than many fighters out there, but he would beat the shit out of all of you in real life…in my book that disqualifies you from calling him a bitch. It is ok however, to question his attitude, but cmon people.

by Jordan on Jun 9, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s my problem with that reasoning.

One of the most important principles in several martial arts is not to abuse the power you have over others.

So “(BJ) would beat the shit out of all of you in real life” is not an argument, because if he is anything close to a decent martial artist, he’d walk away instead of beating up an SOB like me, even if I insult him and ask for it.

Prohibiting critique by force is exactly what dictators do. “If you critique me I kill you” says Kim Jong-Ill. And that’s what you believe in? We can critique BJ all we want and his ability to beat us up should have no bearing on that. Welcome to the 21st century!

by ftg314 on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love how most of you guys call bj a bitch and say he’s scared to fight gsp, and he would beat all your asses….bad choice of words people. You guys really need to stop underestimating penn because of the whole greasing incident. Gsp cheating, period. There’s no way to tell how the fight would have happened had he not cheated, which isn’t fair to penn, regardless of how you feel the fight would have went.

by Jordan on Jun 9, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t really base it on performances vs Sherk. If Sherk tried to box Florian he woulda lost, and if he tried to wrestle Penn, he may have won.

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