WEC 41 recap and final thoughts for 'Faber vs Brown 2'
by MMAmania.com on Jun 7, 2009 11:41 PM EDT
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WEC 41: "Brown vs. Faber 2" went off tonight (June 7) from the Arco Arena in Sacramento, Calif., with the main card action airing live on the Versus network.
The main event of the evening -- a rematch between featherweight champion Mike Brown and the man who he defeated to capture the title, Urijah Faber -- was billed as the "biggest fight ever in the featherweight division."
And judging by the electric reception that "The California Kid" received from his hometown fans, the description appeared to be spot on. He showed his appreciation by giving the the packed house perhaps the gutsiest performance of his career ... albeit in a losing effort.
Brown and Faber went toe-to-toe, up-and-down for the first two rounds in a crazy back-and-forth brawl. Faber landed a huge kick early in the first that busted Brown open, which could have caused problems later in the fight had he been able to work the cut.
But at some point in the second round Faber broke his hand on Brown's hard melon and an injury to his left paw followed shortly thereafter. As a result, Faber was reduced to bobbing and weaving for most of the final two rounds.
Brown was unable to capitalize, but turned in a solid workmanlike performance that was good enough to earn him a unanimous decision win. The fight was super close prior to the injuries with Brown seemingly getting the better of the former champion. There's no telling, however, if things would have been different had Faber not been injured.
That's not taking anything away from Brown -- he fought a great fight. It just would have been sweet to see them both go bell-to-bell at 100 percent. I'm greedy. So color me very interested in a third match even though Brown now leads on the scorecards 2 to 0. It's a great match up.
In the meantime, we may just have to settle watching Brown take on a new challenger. Maybe that's not such a bad thing.
In the co featured fight of the night, Jose Aldo and Cub Swanson touched 'em up with a possible number one contender spot on the line. It's safe to say that Aldo emerged as the hands-down best challenger in the weight class after blasting Swanson with a flying knee that essentially put him down for the count.
It was academic from that point forward.
All told, it took just eight seconds for Aldo to notch his fifth straight win under the WEC banner, all of which have come by way of (technical) knockout. That had to set some kind of record ... thank goodness for digital video recorders -- the deconstruction happened so fast.
Aldo clearly has the talent and ability to give Brown -- or even Faber when he recovers from his injuries -- one hell of a fight win or lose. He is an absolute beast who is a treat to watch fight ... and celebrate.
More please.
Former (and current) number one lightweight contender, Donald Cerrone, was out to erase the memories of his most recent loss to division champion, Jamie Varner, when he locked horns with undefeated promotional newcomer, James Krause.
Krause was game in the early going, but it was soon clear that the all-around skills of "The Cowboy" were just too much for him to handle. Cerrone mixed it up well with knees, punches and submission attempts, as well as solid takedown defense.
He eventually registered an impressive finish and, during the post-fight press conference, made a point to call out "The Worm," saying he was ready for his rematch when Varner is discharged from the "intensive care unit."
Varner smiled when the cameras panned to him in the stands, but his insides were more than likely burning after hearing Cerrone's remarks. That's a fight that has to happen and more than likely will, with both fighters bringing the heat when fight night finally arrives.
Can't wait.
In the opening fight of televised main card, Jens Pulver was out to snap a three-fight losing skid against up-and-comer, Josh Grispi. It didn't happen. Grispi -- who is 14 years younger than the mixed martial arts pioneer -- needed less than 40 seconds to choke out the grizzled veteran in opening round of the bout.
It was no "fluke" either ... Pulver simply could not pry the Bostonian's limbs from around his neck. Pulver probably should have known better than to get in a bad position like that; however, it happened so fast that he more than likely didn't know he was in trouble until it was too late.
The win for Grispi -- his ninth straight -- is no doubt a huge stepping stone that could catapult him into the upper echelon of a very deep WEC featherweight division. On the flip side, it was another massive setback for Pulver, who held back tears and hinted that retirement was top of mind.
It's safe to say that the torch has been passed, regardless of Pulver's future plans.
"Brown vs. Faber 2" was a solid show with jaw-dropping knockouts and slick submissions that will be talked about around the water cooler and on the message boards for days, weeks and months to come. If you missed any of the action, be sure to check out our complete WEC 41 results and blow-by-blow coverage by clicking here .
Now that's enough out of us for one night, it’s time to hear your WEC 41-related thoughts. Sound off in the comments section below, Maniacs!
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good fight just cant help to think what would have happened if faber didnt break his hand..
imo faber would have picked him apart hope he gets his 2nd rematch, if rampage can get one why not faber
by tower on Jun 7, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
Brown won, Brown’s the champ, Brown is 2-0 against Faber, everything else is just speculation. I swear no one wants to give this guy his due. First it was a fluke when he knocked Faber out, now Brown would’ve lost if Faber hadn’t broken his hand. Bull Shit! Rich Franklyn broke his hand bad against the Crow and still won. I’m sure as hell open to a third fight, but Brown still deserves his credit
by broncos12405@yahoo.com on Jun 8, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Thomas Brown is the clearcut best 145 fighter in the world, hands down.
Do all of your Urijah huggers love him so much cuz you think he’s cute?
If they were to somehow fight a 3rd time, Mike Brown would constantly man handle Urijah and keep the fight on the mat.
To be honest, that choke in the last minute had me nervous.
by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
did you guys even watch the fight?? faber picked him apart with his right jab and even dropped Brown to one knee with the punch that broke faber’s hand! if faber’s right hand wouldn’t have broken it wuld have been a totally different fight, i watched the entire fight and don’t think brown really did anything impressive other than his ground control. I’d say faber was more impressive on the ground though becase of his scrambles despite only being able to use one hand.
by "I came, I saw, I conquered" - "Veni, Vidi, Vici" on Jun 8, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It was surprising that Brown couldn’t finish Faber, even though Urijah was fighting with 2 busted hands. It is pretty hard to say the fight would not have been different if Faber could have actually punched in the last 3 rounds.
by naturalshadow on Jun 10, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t let the ridiculous commentary skew what happened in this fight. Faber was getting throttled every minute of the fight after the 1st. That one judge who had it 48-47 needs to be taken to the back of the arena and shot. I was on point on the main card but Noah lost me some dough on the undercard. Very sad to see jens go out like that but like i said in another post, he was gonna get cold caught very early on. Aldo fight didn’t show us anything new, i was hoping to see him flex his grappling game. Overall another excellent card in the span of two days. Oh yea, i gave baneulos the fight simply because worst judge in mma and boxing had it for Jorgensen.
by NameNotRequired on Jun 8, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Faber won round 3, but it was super close… so dont shoot the judge (Tony Weeks, I believe), and dont shoot me.
by Synyster on Jun 8, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Seth Dikun and the other guy to win by triangle really impressed me. That flying triangle (Dikun) was amazing, and the other guy was rolling through submissions like he was Nate Diaz or Dustin Hazelett. Both really impressed me, and I wish I had bet on them, as they were both dogs.
I posted a few times already, but Aldo will win DECISIVELY against MTB and stay champ for a while. I look forward to him breaking apart Faber.
Cerrone I hope beats down that poon Jamie Varner.
by Synyster on Jun 8, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
wow~ that fight turned out great!!
i think it could be in the running for best fight ’09..
all i have to say is faber has heart!! that man is a scrapper..
regardless of injury~ brown is on a different level..
i think he will hold that belt for a while..
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and how about jose??
that flying knee was something else~ dang! can someone say broken orbital.
aldo won me some change~ thats for sure..
by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
btw here is what the stink~mans score cards looked like~
rd#1~ 10/9 faber[so close it could have been brown]
rd#2~ 10/9 brown
rd#3~ 10/9 brown[close but not as close as rd’1]
rd#4~ 10/9 brown
rd#5~ 10/9 brown
score~ 49/46 for the champ..
by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
U got it right Stinky! Faber had some possible submissions had his hand been ok. I say a healthy Faber peppers brown with punches and at least pulls out a decision. Faber had a solid game plan to deal with Brown’s power.
by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont know about even a healthy faber..
i think brown would be the aggressor anyways~
and with the big difference in the clinch and grappling game?
brown seems to have that edge over faber..
faber hit him with solid shots and bearly wobbled him..
brown will dominate 145….trust
by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
by the way guys, take my advice and watch that fight on mute, first thing you’ll notice, in the first round (prior to broken hand), Faber is almost running backwards, and looks afraid to exchange with Brown! I’m kinda a fan of Faber (not huge), but he was dominated from the opening bell, and looked scared throughout the fight!
I’ve read you guys saying biased commentating before, and never thought it had any merit, tonight was pathetic. Halfway through the 2nd round, I told my wife, “an average fan would think Faber is winning this fight!” I said the same in the 4th! Kenny Florian was talking like Faber was dominating when fact is, he was getting dominated!
by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
halfway through the 2nd round Faber was winning the fight.. he clearly took the first round……
by Kory on Jun 8, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Im such a loser guys! Only mma fight I caught live this entire weekend was the last 2 rounds of the Riggs fight. I have turned into such a crappy mma fan! YOu guys should kick me off this site. lol
From what I hear from you guys, Faber/Brown fight was good and it went the way everyone thought with brown bringing his lunch box and putting in work. I never really been a fan of Urijah, so whatever.
Happy to hear that Aldo is still walking through people. He has quickly become one of my favorites who should give Urijah or Brown a WAR!!!!!
I gotta go watch these fights. what fights should I make sure to watch guys?
by john on Jun 8, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Just like you john,I miss it.Don’t worries about it!I think the maniacs will forgive you?
I coudn’t find any fight yet…do you know were I can get them?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 8, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Alpha. I havent checked yet…but the 1st place I am going to check to try and find the fights is mmascraps.com. Then you can also try myvideofights.com. If you find them, let me know….and I will do the same for you!
by john on Jun 8, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You can watch the Aldo fight in less time than it takes to refresh your homepage. I’m glad for that. Cub Swanson is a douche. Of course, the Faber-Brown fight. i thought it was pretty amazing that Faber lasted another four rounds with that guy even with his hand being useless. Faber still kept coming after Brown and tried to fight him, unlike Kalib Starnes running away from Quarry for 15 minutes after getting injured. All things considered, Brown clrearly won the fight, although I thought he should have done a lot more damage or finished the fight, considering Faber’s condition.
by PW on Jun 8, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks john there is a few fight on mmascraps.com!I don’t know why i didn’t think to go check there??
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 8, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Goddamnit!They removed the fights at mmascaps.com!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 8, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
KEV, in round 4, Kenny said that Brown is up 2 rounds to 1. Urijah won the first. From what I heard, the announcers were making it clear that Brown was winning the fight. Maybe you had the commentary off, but still had the crowd volume on.
I had it 49-46 Brown.
by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike, they said that in one sentence, but all they could do was talk about Faber. An average viewer would have thought it was a lot closer than it really was!
by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I also heard that Florini’s favoritism comments of Faber were totally painful to listen.Is it true??
Did he really did a bad job?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 8, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW kev.I don’t know if this,could interest you but..
Ray Elbe(the Muay Thai guy from Thailand that Demarcus beat to get in the house)won his fight Saturday.
Ray Elbe fights Superfight in Seoul Korea vs. Chang Koo Lee
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 8, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
mmatko.com has them all up, bad quality tho
by medecine balls on Jun 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The WEC is very exciting – it is definitely the #2 organization in North America. This was way better than last night’s card.
by Muscle Dolphin on Jun 7, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
FAr, FAR better than Showtime’s Strikeforce card. Everything from the commentary to the cameras to the fighters were better…
That was one of my favorite cards in a while. That topped a few UFCs
by fightfan on Jun 8, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
the strikeforce card lastnight was off the hook.. did u miss it?
by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Watch the fight on mute! Without the constant Kenny Florian slurping, you’ll see that the only close round was the first! Brown clearly won. I don’t want to hear about the hand, it’s a fight!
I can’t believe no one is talking about the fight between Banuelos/Jorgensen, that very well could have been the best fight I’ve seen this year. The pace, the transitions and the back and forth action!
This whole card was great! It was a great show case of stand up action as well as unreal jits and tranitions in between!
What a friggin great weekend of fights!
by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t miss it stink, and this guy is nuts! Those 2 cards this weekend were both easuly better than 99. We saw AA get throttled again. Shields’ stand up (kicks) looked impressive (no matter what Maurro said) and we saw a guy that I think could hang with GSP, especially not having to cut down to LW (Diaz)!
by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont get why you are bashing UFC 99 Kevin. Even without a wanderlei fight, I still am really looking forward to that card.
Much more so than the strikeforce or WEC card (obviously) since I didnt watch either event.
U better believe I wont be missing UFC 99 on saturday!
by john on Jun 8, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
watch the events and get back to me! I’m not bashing it, I just think these two cards are equal if not better
by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
You missed 98, but are super excited for 99? Oustide of Wanerlei/Franklin, the rest of the card is hardly UFN worthy. Actually, the TUF finals card looks better than the rest of 99.
by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
John’s on drugs lately or school is getting to him! He comments on fights when he hasn’t watched an event in 3 events, and says 99 is better than this weekend, yet he hasn’t watched. this weekend had some great fights!
by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
He said he is finishing up school and is having as much fun going out while he can.
by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
99 hasn’t even happened and you guys are bashing it? Some optimistic people you are.
I think the WEC was better than the Strikeforce, but thats not saying anything bad about the Strikeforce card.
John, watch the Seth Dikun fight, he landed a flying triangle, and the Pettis fight, I think, he was rolling through submission attempts like crazy.
And I didn’t think the commentary was that bad. Round 1 was close but Faber definitly won it, and the 3rd was close as well. If you missed it Faber did alot of reversing and was on top of Brown more than he was in that round.
Regardless though, I’m looking forward to ALL the fights coming up.
by Synyster on Jun 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks sys. I just watched the flying triangle. It was cool, but he took too long to finish it for my liking, but Im just nitpicking now.
by john on Jun 8, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just watched the event. TSN can suck my dick for showing five-minute commercial breaks every five minutes, but it was a good show. I think I would’ve gone 5 for 5 if butt-chin hadn’t busted his hand, but whatever. Aldo was awesome as usual, and standing up I think he’d hand Faber or Brown an ass-whuppin’.
Oh, and I think UFC 99 is a friggin’ sweet-ass card. You guys are out to lunch, meng. ;-)
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 8, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Aldo would give Lesnar an ass-whuppin (he would lose but he would do some damage).’ Ive never seen a kid that fast. Jose is something else.
by medecine balls on Jun 8, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
the 99 card is bomb!!
i dont know how anyone could say different..
the main card is off the hook for a ppv..
kevin~
compairing 99 to strikeforce and wec41[on paper]?? there is none..ufc blows them out~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown is a classy guy (as is Faber). Under the circumstances, there should be a Faber-Brown 3.
by Muscle Dolphin on Jun 7, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
kid is a flat out beast/ wrecking machine/ etc. If his Jits is as good as they say he is gonna be a real problem for MTB.
by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Brown couldnt even put away a Handless urijah faber.
3rd fight urijah submits Brown….
by ✰Pretty Boy✰ on Jun 7, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
whatever, brown dominated faber the whole fight. aldo would destroy faber.
by Faber Sucks on Jun 7, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he only puts away the Faber with working hands. Weird.
by JTD on Jun 7, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t blv some of you guys. Brown won the fight and it wasn’t even close. I didn’t get some of the score cards cuz I had Brown winning 4, possibly all 5 rds. You guys complain that Machida, Florian etc circle around and use footwork but have no problem with Faber doing it?? Brown is a disciplined fighter and doesn’t put himself in bad positions or over extend. If faber wants to beat him, he’s gonna have to improve.
And in case you forgot, in the 1st fight, Brown put away Faber with 2 good hands, 2 good feet, and an aura of invinciblity. In Faber’s first fight with Jens, he couldn’t put him away and everyone finishes Jens now. Does that not reflect poorly on Faber???
by Crowls on Jun 7, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Urijah put Jens away in the 1st the second time around. I am looking forward to Aldo vs. Brown. I think Urijah can beat Brown with two good hands but I think he has to KO Brown. His wrestling is way superior than what I thought it would be before tonight.
by halljam2 on Jun 8, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i know Faber put Jens away in the first. Brown put Faber away in the first. I was just illustrating the point that it doesn’t matter that he didn’t finish tonight. He’s proven he’s quite capable of finishing Faber. I also blv Faber is capable of beating Brown but it doesn’t mean he ever will.
by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
AND since then, some 20 year old put Jens away 5 times faster than Urijah. Does that mean Grispi is better than Urijah, NOT at all
by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
All around awesome card. That Aldo knee was sick he could be the next FW champion. And Faber’s hand looked pretty nasty. WEC cards are always damn exciting they showed like 8 fights too.
by Captain Ernesto on Jun 7, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
well i think urijah woulda won, and for sure he woulda got that 10 finger choke. still was a good fight but i hate brown, i think aldo will defeat him, i hope so.
rest of the card was pretty good
by phenomenal angel on Jun 7, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
i love how the commentating is always biased toward faber when he fights. florian was talking as if faber was winning the fight while brown was beating him down. frank mir would be proud.
by Faber Sucks on Jun 7, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
i think a lot of that is because he’s fast/athletic and a little flashy. Brown just keeps coming forward, keeps it simple, stays in good position and does the right things. It’s alot easier to get excited and commentate on a guy who is moving all around pulling off explosive moves, throwing elbows, flying knees, and stuff. You saw similar stuff when melvin guillard fought in the UFC but it didn’t mean he was the better fighter. These guys are just impressive physical specimens. Guys who are fundamentally sound and stick to gameplans never get the same love from ringside as the guys who are explosive or do something extremely well like a sheilds. they’ll talk all day about his JJ but most of the time fail to mention his glaring weakness on the feet.
by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
The WEC announcers needs to stop disrespecting their audience by deepthroating Faber and Torres every time they fight, even when their opponent is getting the better of them. Mir was ridiculous during the last Torres fight. It’s downright insulting.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 8, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i keep hearing that the color commentary was crap..
i watched the fights~ but i was in a crowded diner at the bar.
so i didnt notice~ but i usually like mirs commentating..
by stinky~fingers on Jun 8, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea while faber recovers from injury it should be brown vs aldo. Faber showed that brown can take faber down but faber can get up at will. Faber also showed he is the better striker. So indeed there should be a rematch because faber is the better overall fighter.
by desperus on Jun 7, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
strange that he’s 0-2 seeing as he’s “the better overall fighter”.
by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL, right. I think desperus is posting his comments from Urijah’s nuts.
Also, he has a future bet in that Matt Hughes will beat GSP in thier 3rd fight because overall, Hughes is the better fighter….
by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Brown is for real, another awesome win over the supposed better fighter. All of these bloggers and commentators need to get their heads out of Faber’s arse, he’s lost twice to Brown how many opportunities does he deserve? Brown should face Aldo next, that guy is a beast and is one of the few FWs that are a viable threat to Brown but anyone who bets against Brown right now is an idiot, he’s easily the #1 FW.
by David W-S on Jun 8, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it should be Anderson Silva versus Faver
by Synyster aka Syd the Negation in Dysgyuise on Jun 7, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
Makes more sense than Silva versus Faber even though I’ve never seen this Faver guy fight.
by JTD on Jun 7, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m officially sick of Faber. He’s a great fighter and classy guy, he’s just over marketed at this point and there are too many people pulling for him.
by kibbled_bits on Jun 7, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
Lots of Faber love which is fine but I thought Brown controlled the first round before Faber even hurt the hand, for whatever that’s worth. Would love to see a 3rd fight and of course there’s that Aldo guy who might put that on hold for a little bit.
by JTD on Jun 7, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
I have to say this that commentarie from kenny was overly bias
Brown dominated that fight props to Faber he is a warrior but Brown is just better
by Shadow side on Jun 8, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I was surprised that KenFlo thought Faber won that first round – I certainly didn’t see it that way. But I thought Florian did a great job tonight and I’m a big fan of Frank Mir’s analysis.
by JTD on Jun 8, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I gave Faber rounds 1 and 3. 3 being super close, and could have gone either way. No matter, there probably wont be a Faber/Brown 3, because Jose Aldo is going to RIP that belt away from Mike Brown. If the guy who mugged Leonard Garcia fights Aldo, then we have a fight! But I think Aldo takes it by 2nd round TKO, and hold it for a while! He will defend vs Grispi, Brown, Faber, and anyone else!!!
by Synyster on Jun 8, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Faber def. took round 1, and I can see where a judge would give him 3. Brown really didn’t do that much damage to Faber, except with the top of his head to Faber’s hand.
by PW on Jun 8, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
All in all it was a terrific 2+ hours of fights. Versus did a great job of showing several undercard fights thanks to some of the quick finishes. It doesn’t get much better than the fights tonight and for the price it was great.
by JTD on Jun 8, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
Hell yeah my wallet is feeling nice and heavy great night of fights
by Shadow side on Jun 8, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
faber easily pulls off this fight in the later rounds had he not broken his hand(s). no question.
by kneetotheface on Jun 8, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Excuses excuses, Faber got KO’d with two healthy hands last time and it’s not like he came in with an injured hand, it’s Brown who injured him. Brown deserves a lot more respect than he gets, I was one of these idiots who called the first fight a fluke but I’ve seen the light, MTB is a beast and has easily beaten Faber twice. Aldo will be a tough opponent but I don’t see MTB losing at 145 for a long time.
by David W-S on Jun 8, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuckin awesome fight though! Props to Brown, and Faber. That’s what a main event is supposed to be
by broncos12405@yahoo.com on Jun 8, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
Awesome night of fights. That Jorgensen kid got robbed.
by Joe Smith on Jun 8, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
Hell yea he did!
Myself and everyone i was watching with literally jumped up in outrage!
we also jumped up in HOPE at the thought of Faber pulling off that choke at the end of round 5, lol.
Brown is a monster of a champion and a classy guy.
THAT being said, all nuthugging aside, had Faber not broken his hand in the FIRST and been able to actually throw punches instead of just elbows then we would would be look at a Re-Crowned champ tonight…
Faber-Brown III
by SoCalStunNa on Jun 8, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
You and everyone else on here seems to forget that when Faber had full use of both of his hands Brown knocked him out. Faber will never be able to beat Brown.
Brown is the better fighter. Let’s move on.
by Appelkick on Jun 8, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
All bc Banuelos is Chuck’s boy and in his corner, politics man. I was there, and everyone booed.. 3rd rd was 10-8 IMO.
by DirtbagHtr on Jun 8, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a great fight that lived up to the hype. Brown has Faber’s number and time to move onto Aldo. I’m glad to see the judges weren’t biased because it was Faber’s hometown. It wouldn’t be right to see Brown get robbed like Matt Hamill did in England when he totally destroyed Bisping. I saw on Wiclopedia that Joe Lauzan beat Brown. He should move down to 145 and get himself a belt when he gets back from injury.
by bound by bj on Jun 8, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions
The FW division in the WEC is becoming pretty stacked. It used to be Faber destroying everyone, now its Brown, Faber, Fabiano, Aldo, Manny all near the top (Manny based on UFC duty which was respectable, but yes, needs another win to be officially in top contention). A lot of star power growing here.
by Amos on Jun 8, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
Great night of fights! My first full WEC card viewing and after following the UFC the last 2 years, I almost think these so called “little guys” battle better than the the bigger dudes on the UFC cards.
Yeah, I think Jorgensen got robbed, too.
Aldo KneeKO was awesome….disguised it then exploded. Scary guy to face for the 145ers.
Brown-Faber 2 was an excellent fight. Great toughness by both guys and Urijah really showed heart. I’m pretty sure he hurt his left hand too. Who wouldn’t want to see a third matchup at some time. Florian’s commentary is very good. Maybe a little biased towards Faber but that’s ok. I think Frank Mir’s fondness for Miguel Torres is much more blatant in his commentary.
by sudnvictory on Jun 8, 2009 1:06 AM EDT reply actions
I say he is the better overall fighter because his standup was obviously better and yea brown was able to take him down but faber got up everytime with ease. Having a broken right hand and a hurt left hand( he was throwing open fisted left hand punches) Limits what u can do standing and on the ground.
by desperus on Jun 8, 2009 2:04 AM EDT reply actions
Brown did defeat faber 2 times, wow oh wow
But that doesn’t make him a more exciting fighter
Ill still watch faber fight, it says a lot when brown can’t put away a one handed fighter
Sure I give him credit but no way is he gonna take fabers spot
by phenomenal angel on Jun 8, 2009 3:07 AM EDT reply actions
umm hello? he is the champ and he did take fabers spot.
by JRE on Jun 8, 2009 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Brown dominated wigger Faber from start to finish.
by Green Inferno on Jun 8, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions
Mike Brown is at the top of his game…but he definitely left doors open for Uriah. Even though Mike clearly man handled Uriah in the clinch, Uriah still managed to land big elbows, kicks and chokes, while controlling Mikes hands during submission attempt…with damaged hands! I really do respect Mike, but if Uriah’s hands weren’t screwed up, I think he would have been able to hold onto one or two of those deep chokes and land some serious punches. Elbows can only do so much standing up and he couldn’t get on top of Mike for any of his trademark ground and pound – because Mike is a beast and smart…scary combination. I want a third after Aldo and maybe Josh get their shots. Aldo is an assassin, but something bugs me about him. I really would like to see Mike put Aldo in his place…he has the power and experience to deal with Aldo’s arsenal. Josh and Uriah would be a good fight – totally different body types. Bring on Varner and Cowboy!!!
by some guy on Jun 8, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
wow honestly mike brown lovers need to really shut their faces. The guy couldnt finish a man who couldnt punch with either hands and thats a THROTTLING? Rofl you guys are the casual mma fans that just know nothing about it. Uriah faber went five rounds with mike brown with no hands!!!!! go look at the xray pictures you idiots and he dislocated his thumb on his left. The guy was landing elbows and slapping brown lol!?!?!? Brown did nothing impressive….nothing!!! I like mike brown but he didnt win last night faber lost, its ridiculous how many faber haters there are the dude is a warrior he went five rounds in a “fight” without fists oh wait 4 rounds my bad. If anything i lost respect for brown cause he did nothing impressive all those little weak punches did nothing it was sad. and im willing to bet if faber hadnt injured both hands brown wouldve been toast fabers way to fast for him. After all that though you cant blame brown for what happened he did his job and won the fight although unimpressive he took care of business.
after the perfromance i saw from brown last night tho aldo is gonna put him to sleep easily
mike brown proved nothing last night except he can grind out wins against a guy who can only kick wow gg
by dbo on Jun 9, 2009 1:33 AM EDT reply actions
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