Rampage Jackson: It's 'preposterous' that he would be scared of 'some karate guy' Lyoto Machida

Dont get me wrong, I am a Rampage fan. But damn Rampage, play scrabble to boost your vocabulary or something. it shouldn’t take 10 seconds and 5 “um’s” to come up with “preposterous”.

He threw in several “you know what I’m sayin’s.” He has definitely been hangin with Kimbo in the house.

I don’t think Rampage is scared of Machida, but I am sure he is aware of the fact that Lyoto can certainly beat him, and losing isn’t going to help his career much.

that seems to be the plan down a greg j’s camp..

too bad for sardine ~ he seems to get the shit end of the stick.

NNR Roger Gracie just won his second Absolute title at the mundials.
Great win also for Marcelo Garcia,Romulo Barral
Here the result…

http://www.ibjjf.org/results/2009mundial.htm

BTW Page’s will win against Suga!

well it may be because he’s not that good stink. Jardine is a gate keeper at best.
Yes, Rampage turned down 2 title fights…I don’t know if he’s scared, but I don’t know of any competitor in the world that would turndown the chance to be considered the best!

I call bull shit and just like stink said he turned down to chances to fight for the title if he wanted to fight rashad so bad he would have sucked it up and fought him in May and we wouldnt even be talking about machida or his karate

I hope rashad dominates him using his wrestleing and wins a boring decision so we can hear all of rampages excuses after the loss

well stinky, I don’t want him to become like Arlovski cause that’s what happens when your career is all over the place and you start taking fights on short notice without any real preparation, that is not a serious take on your career no matter how hard you train.. Rampage did not turn down the title shot against Rashad, It was the UFC that turned him down. He had to take care of his jaw and get some time off, had the UFC offered him the fight against Rashad at UFC 98 in the first place before signing him to fight Jardine than he would probably have taken it..

i know the back story rob..

but either way u slice it? rampage denied 2 in a row..

i am a huge rampage fan~ im just saying i know he isnt scared to fight.. but he doesnt make himself look good by taking rashad over a title.

dia mette~ there is no way rashad dominates rampage..

rampage should take the win~ but i wont blink, thats for sure..

I agree with dia mette, if Rampage was so desperate to get his hands on Rashad he could have “sucked it up” and fought him in may instead of trying to make up some non existant feud now.

I used to be a big Rampage fan, but ducking two title shots suggests to me he aint no warrior. He’s only interested in handpicking opponents he knows he can beat, overbloat his record and increase his money making potential. He knows like 99.9% of people on these boards he’d get utterly humiliated by Machida and that would devalue the Rampage brand reducing potential future earnings.

Is Rampage scared of Machida, probably not, but I’ve never had him down as the most courageous fighter on the planet, so it wouldn’t surprise me. I’ll never get the image out of my head of him crying after Wandy and Shogun gave him a good beating, so who realy knows?

I agree that I don’t think Page is scared necessarily but making decisions based on money isn’t what being a warrior in this sport is all about. The best fighters are the ones that want to consistently test themselves agaisnt the best and get to the top of the mountain. I know that we don’t know about Page’s financial situation but wouldn’t being the champ make him a lot of money? He could have fought Machida in September and made a bunch of money off that fight and possibly gotten his title back.

Either way…it’s a risky gamble and it’s not going to pay off for him cause Evans is going to take out his anger on Page for his loss to Machida. Shad lost his focus coming into the Machida fight and that cost him dearly. I think he’s taking this loss really well and said all the right things. He’s going to be back better than ever and he’s going to the stamp down on Page.

nobody knows the “backstory” better than rampage himself. he knows how it all went down. rashad turned down the fight first because he was injured after the griffin fight, so they made rampage face jardine just to stay sharp, well low and behold rampage got hurt against jardine and that scratched him from the calendar for a while. as far as doin the TUF show again over a title shot, i’m betting rampage’s attitude toward the whole deal is that he can beat anybody at LHW and the belt will still be there after he gets finished taking care of his unfinished business. i doubt he really cares who has the belt, he knows he’s at the top of that food chain, and his time will come whenever he wants it to

deuce you’re living in a rampage nuthugging dreamland! Take your Page tinted lenses off for a minute and think about what you’re saying. Machida is number one in the food chain when it comes to LHW and Ramapage has got an awful lot of work to do just to get a shot at him, let alone do what no other fighter has managed and find a way to beat him.

I think “Rampage’s attitude” is I can’t beat Machida, but hopefully while I invent a hatred for Rashad Evans and do the kids reality show, then hopefully someone will beat him for me.

Page gave an in depth interview about why he chose to fight Rashad. He explained that most of his money comes from the back end (ppv percentage). He said that, doing TUF, is like a 6 months promotion for a fight. The show is a tool used to promote the fight. After 6 months of back n fourth trash talk between Shad n Rampage, by the time the fight happens, it will pull in a ton more ppv money than a normal, non TUF coaches fight would, so Financially it was a no brainer for Rampage and I cant fault him for that.

Normally I get on pro athletes about it being all about the money, but these mma fighters arent getting paid like baseball players, and they are going through WARS for our entertainment and to feed their families. As a fan, I have to understand that these guys are people with families, so I try not to bash them when they make financial decisions.

Do I want to see Machida vs. Rampage? aBSOLUTELY!!! and guess what? We are still going to see that fight, no latter than Febuary of 09…in the meantime I get to see 2 other AMAZING match ups between Machida/Shogun (DREAM< FIGHT), and some good ol fashion American, Black on Black Crime.

I really dont get what their is to bitch about! Fickle FOCKERS!

You mean more like Feb,MR or AP 2010??

JC is talking the truth, Rampage should’ve been fighting Rashad rather than Jardine, but Rashad bitched out, and Rampage got hurt…it happens and now he just wants to fight the guy ‘ran’.

What there is to “bitch” about John is he’s chasing the money instead of the challenging fights like a true warrior. That’s why me and a lot of others on these threads have lost respect for him.

You’re a big Rampage nuthugger and wont here a bad word said about him, but I guarantee you’d be all over like white on rice another fighter you don’t like who did the same as he’s done.

U guys are retarded. YOu guys are claiming Page is ducking everyone…..but not once does anyone bring up the fact that Rashad ducked Rampage, and thats why Rampage had to end up fighting Jardine. Its a FOCKING FACT that Rashad turned down that fight, and Rampage wanted it!

Page has been busting his ass all year., Training his ass off for wandy, then taking no time off, and jumping right back in the cage to fight Jardine (who isnt the best fighter in the world), but a tough match up for anyone. Besides the wanderlei fight, who else do you know that just ran through Jardine? THen Rampage had a broken jaw….I think page has been busting his ass for us fans all year, taking very little breaks and dangerous fights…he was everyone’s favorite fighter 2 months ago, but now you all crucify him. YOU guys suck cock as Fans! If I were a fighter or a pro athlete, I wouldnt even want to be supported by fans like you guys! its honestly sickening for me to read this stupid talk out of some of you guys! Im from Philladelphia, so I know a thing or two about crappy, bandwagon, fickle fans….but you guys are honestly SO MUCH WORSE!!!

John you’re getting emotional again! Insulting people and writing a 10,000 word essay on each post doesn’t make your opinion anymore valid than anybody elses. Quit swinging on the guys nuts for a minute, Page is ducking the tough fights and chasing the money! FACT!

Page will fight Rashad and Machida in consecutive fights… So, NO there isnt anything for me to bitch about. Especially when I get to see Machida/Shogun in the meantime.
Im not insulting you guys, its a fact…you guys suck cock as fans…trust me, I know. Im from Philly “the world capitol of crappy fans”.

Since coming to the UFC Rampage has faced:
Eastman (warm up fight)
Liddell
Henderson
Forrest
Wanderlei
Jardine
Rashad and then Machida.

Find me another fighter who has fought better competition. Rampage is keeping his mouth shut and facing all the best that the best division in the UFC has to offer…..Can you say the same about your beloved Anderson silva? who was in the middle of a super winning streak yet wasted our time by fighting an E level fighter in James Irvin? Give me a break!

Sorry, but I dont see what there is to complain about! And Yes I am a huge Rapmage fan, but not more so than I am a fan of Machida or Shogun, so I like to think I am unbiased in this debate. What did I write in my posts that isnt factual or that you dont agree with? This I have to hear!

Cmon guys quit crying about that…
Let’s suppose that Page’s ducks these fights….What’s the big deal about it??He still,will face the former champ and then the champ.Unless he lose…but even in that,case he still gonna be 1 or 2 fights near a championship fight.Don’t come out with the argument that he would make more money if he would be a champion b/c he’s probably gonna make more money with his decision to coach TUF!

Sorry attackdog, that Rampage doesnt live his life soley to please you. I guess all the other fighters fight for free just to amuse you. HOw can you guys knock a guy for trying to make money? He consistantly faces top level competition, yet the man isnt allowed to chase big money fights? U guys are insane. This is his job…he doesnt fight to amuse you. I would like to see how many of you guys wouldnt try to make the most money possible in your jobs. How can you fault a man for that?

I just dont get it. Its not like he isnt still facing top competition. He is fighting Rashad Evans, who before the Machida fight, all you guys were swinging from his nuts….buy thats not good enough for you! YOu guys actr like he turned down a fight with Machida to fight HOuston Alexander. He is facing what the majority of this fickle site as the #2 LHW in the world….yet you guys are still bitching.

Personally when a guy has an option of facing the #1 or #2 fighters in the world….Im not going to complain that he chose the #2 fighter cause of financial reasons. Sorry thats just me, someone who understands that these are peoples who FIGHT AS A JOB…..not some robots that only live to serve you!

cry me a focking river, build a bridge and get over it!!!!

I stand by what I said before John: slagging off anyone who doesn’t agree with you and writing a 10,000 word essay every post doesn’t make your opinion right!!!

If a fighter you disliked had done the same as what Rampage has done, you would be on here slagging them off for weeks. So you “get over it”.

How would you feel if Anderson Siva backed out of a fight against Chuck Liddell to go coach ultimate fighter against Patrick Cote or GSP turned down the fight against Penn to go coach Ultimate fighter opposite Josh Koscheck???

UFC fans want to see the very best fights possible that can be put on every month and I for one want to see Rampage try and find that chink in the Machida armour. It’s no use saying he’ll fight him next year, if he loses to Rashad which is quite possible, we may never see it, and this is a big oportunity wasted. Cro Cop was supposed to come to the UFC, skittle over sanchez and Gonzaga then face Randy. Obviously he suffered a freak KO and we never got to see that dream match up.

The UFC is facing competition now from the likes of Strikeforce and Affiction and one of their star assetts backing out of a potential money spinner against Machida is bad for business long term. People want to see the best guys fight eachother when they have the chance!

John, don’t blame Andy for facing poor fighters, he’s not the one who books the fights. Blame Joe Silva for the fact that the best MW in MMA history is stuck fighting worthless opponents like Irvin, Cote and Leites who have no business being in the same building as Andy.

Rampage is awesome and I’m looking forward to seeing him face Rashad. He’s great at hyping up fights and rivalries, so I can see why he wants to do TUF again but after his below par performance against Forrest (even though I had the fight as a draw or a close Rampage win) following his last stint on TUF, I don’t think that strategy wise this is going to help get the best Rampage on fight night and I wouldn’t be suprised if Rashad wins this one. Saying that, I can’t complain about Lyoto-Shogun, Rampage-Rashad, Andy-Forrest and TUF 10, the LHW division has never looked better. Right now I don’t see Lyoto or Andy losing again in the UFC and I can’t wait to see them prove that they are the best of the best.

The remake of GSP vs Karo(Pride style)

Riddum Revenge- Pride Never Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJCO2Ro1-k

attack dog: your hypothetical situation is nonsense.

Andy vs. Chuck or GSP vs. Penn are Mega fights in the eyes of all fans. Not just hardcore fans but all fans.

If we polled all the UFC fans in the world…Machida vs. Rampage probably wont be a bigger fight than Rampage vs. Rashad. The only reason that Rampage will make more money against Rashad then he would against Machida is because the Rashad fight is going to sell a ton more ppv’s…which is how Rampage makes most of his money. In your eyes, and most of our eyes, Machida vs. Evans is probably the bigger fight…But I am positive that most of the fans out there dont see it that way. Remember the Couture situation? HIs ppv check was for about $500,000…thats a lot of money to us, and still a lot of money for any fighter in mma. That shows how important ppv percentage money is to a fighters salary. So how could I fault Rampage for taking a fight in which he will at the very least make $200,000 more then he would to fight Machida? This isnt my opinion. its pretty much factual that will be proved after we see the ppv #’s for both the Rampage/Machida and Page/Rashad fights….At the very least, Rampage will make $200,000 more for fighting Rashad then he would Machida…..yet in your eyes he is a coward! hahaha, spoken like a true keyboard warrior, or a rich kid that doesnt realize what an extra $200,000 is worth these days.

In the infamous words of the scholar, Kimbo Slice: “Its a Reccession”! lol

We are still left with great fights, so why bitch at the man making a rational financial decision? Lets see you pass up $200,000!

hey Attakdog, do me a favor and never ever write on a Rampage thread again please!
What the fock are u talking about?
and you start it all off by saying that you “used” to be a Rampage fan, if you were ever a Rampage fan than i wouldn’t see u writing all this crap!

Is Rampage doing what’s best for his career? YES!

The UFC makes a ton of money on Rampage and that’s why they came up with the poor idea to go out public and offer Rampage the title shot right infront of the eyes of all you moron’s (including me) that comes on here, that right there is not how you handle your superstar of the company! someone that lacks brainpower would only do that, cause i knew Rampage and his manager had to say no to that fight and then people would start calling him a “coward” and we go all Tito Ortiz all over again!

If Machida was such a warrior than why isn’t he fighting the same way Rampage and other fighters are?
Is it because he’s afraid to brawl and get into a “fight” ? no, it’s not.. the sport is just not about getting your face reconstructed and being seen as a tough guy…
Rampage has already done a lot of mistakes in his career and this time he’s doing it right takin the time he needs, anybody with a brain would know that..
I would be pissed if he started taking fights on short notice while injured and lost because of that, That would make me lose respect..
I don’t look for someone with a big cock like you guys, It’s a sport and a business you have to be smart!

John you’re rapidly losing the plot! The longer your posts are the less sense they make, try and be concise!

Rampage vs Machida is a 10 times bigger fight than Rampage vs Rashad because it would be for the UFC TITLE, the pinnacle of the sport!!!!

If it meant me fighting for a UFC title then yes i would turn $200,000 down every day of the week! It’s not like Rampage is going hungry and hasn’t made a sh!t load of money already. I just dont understand his mentality, I thought he was a fighter?

Rob, I dont know wtf you’re going on about either. Yes I did used to be a page fan, still am, (not a nuthugger like you admittedly) but he’s gone down in my estimation by chasing a few more safe bucks instead of going for the big challenge.

My point is I wanna see Big fights like Rampage vs Machida happen sooner rather than later, who knows what’s going to happen a year from now, there’s no guarantee the fight would take place.

If I wanted to see fighters bitching about money and who’s earning more, fighters ducking eachother, taking safe fights and mega fights never happening then I’d go back to watching boxing. But this is the UFC who’ve got a reputation for giving us fans the fights we want to see.

attakdog, you my friend is not a smart guy…
the UFC title means nothing, nobody cares about that!
nobody cares about the UFC! Am i clear enough for you to understand? Rampage has already been there with the title in his hand, he’s not a dreamer like us sitting behind our computers.. IN a business you have to be smart and put your personal feelings aside, you can’t have that fighter mentality when making decisions all the time…

Rampage vs Rashad is gonna be a MUCH MUCH bigger fight than Rampage/Lyoto would ever be, they are both coaching on TUF right now and that was what Rampage had decided to do even before he knew who would coach against him, they could have had Lyoto as the opposite coach but they knew that he wouldn’t bring in as much money as Rashad and Rampage would…

And please stop hatin on john, he’s right…

“the UFC title means nothing, nobody cares about that!
nobody cares about the UFC”. Strange statements!

Rob I disagree with you completely, which is rare! I’m bored argueing now anyway. I’m not “hatin” on John either, just disagreeing!

I had to make you stop somehow, that is why i said that.. Rampage vs Rashad is a dream fight for me, maybe not for you and that’s alright i just don’t like calling a guy that has fought 40 proffessional fights and taken beatings a coward, because he is not..

RoB you’ve gone all weird today. I never said he was a coward. Anyway I really am done now, we’ll agree to differ!

The End!

attack dog, once we see the ppv #’s for Machida/Rampage compaired to the numbers that Evans/Rampage pulls in, I want an apology!

John, you need to stop accusing folks of being German WWII-era fighter planes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_D.XXI

And once again, if Forest was turning down a title shot to do a show I’ve heard you call silly, you’d be all over him, calling him every name in the book. I am 100% certain the words “scared”, “chickenshit”, “TUFer” and the obligatory “not a real fighter” would appear somewhere in your post. Anyway, we’ve been down this road before and I’m not pointlessly re-debating a subject that only deluded nut-huggers could see your way.

And my definition of “fickle” at the moment is anyone who gives Shogun a great chance of beating Machida based on what we’ve seen from both fighters in the last three years.

RoB, you were clearly lobotomized over the weekend so I’ll leave you out of this.

Quote from RoB:

“attakdog, you my friend is not a smart guy…
the UFC title means nothing, nobody cares about that!
nobody cares about the UFC! Am i clear enough for you to understand”

Fucking priceless, every word. Saturday Night Live couldn’t write better shit than that.

And comparing the numbers for Machida/Rampage and Rampage/Machida might not tell the whole story. Rampage will face Evans on the year-ending New Year’s card in December, which is typically the most stacked card of the year and always gets big numbers (UFCs 79 and 92 for example, off the top of my head).

I think Machida’s last few performances, in particular the Evans KO, have made him extremely marketable and definitely a better draw than Evans in a head-to-head comparison.

First line of above post should read: the numbers for Machida/Rampage and Rampage/EVANS

Sorry ’bout dat.

Yeah JJ,RoB’s quote was pure gold! :lol:

yes it was gold and i had a blast writing it, but you know what it’s not far from the truth, the only things that really matters is making money and being a superstar, and i was actually comparing a UFC title to prestigeous titles in other sports..
what does lobotomized mean anyway?

lol,Don’t worries RoB it was clear that you couldn’t have been serious about this!

And a lobotomy is a surgical incision into the frontal lobe of the brain to sever one or more nerve tracts, a technique formerly used to treat certain mental disorders but now rarely performed.(this is from the dictionary BTW)

The term lobotomized is often used to refer to someone who shows a lack of response or reaction.

It means you’ve had procedures done on your brain! A highly apt description of you after your wild outbursts yesterday!

outbursts? lol.. f*ck jeremy he can eat my a$$

LMAO.

All in the name of good clean fun, chaps.

that statement is just down right retarded.Jackson aint scared!

I’m with Stinky. Not scared to fight…

Scared to lose. And all that comes with losing. Rampage has been droning on in ebonics about how all he can think about is the title since he lost it… now it’s apparently not that big a deal.

And all this talk about how he’ll get a shot after Rashad is assuming he beats Rashad. He may never get another chance, and at this point that would seem to be poetic justice. But the fan in me wants to see Machida/Jackson, so I do hope he tools Evans.

As said before’ I do not think he is scared of Machida and probably not any man, he is just scared of losing which he knows is a definate if he fought Machida with the fight strategy he has been using of late. Rampages current fighting style is made for Machida, and his fights against Forrest and Jardine make me think he has very good chance of losing against Rashad if Rashad decides to mix things up and not just try to outbox him.

Sorry let me correct u.. Machida won the match, he did not “whoop” Tito’s ass. Please go check the fight again.

Tito didn’t touch him in that fight and got dropped by a nasty body shot, don’t let the late triangle or the fact that it went to a decision fool you, that was as one sided a beatdown as you can get without a stoppage.

It wasn’t a beating, if it was than you’ve never seen a beating…
He never threw more than one or two shots at a time at Tito because he didn’t want to get physical with Tito..

It was one sided but it wasn’t a “beatdown”.

you guys are nuts. It was called completely being outclassed. If I were Tito, I would have honestly been embaressed. That might be the worst loss TIto has ever suffered. At least he put up a fight when LIddell Ko’ed him….Machida just made him look clueless the entire time!

i CALL THAT A 1 SIDED BEATDOWN!

I think you’re the one who’s “nuts” john!

Me and Rob both admit it was “one sided” but certainly not a “beatdown”

Someone said “as one sided a beatdown as you can get without a stoppage”. That’s rubbish, tito was hardly battered from pillar to post for 15 minutes and the body shot was the only time he came close to being stopped. Tito remained in the fight right to the end and nearly got a finish, so most certainly wasn’t beatdown, just given a lesson in hit and run.

love the analogy. Did you think that up or did you see it somewhere else?

I would to Wutang, but MAchida is still not as brutal..
Is he more likely to give you a loss? yeah sure, but not a beating like Wand does if he has you hurt..