UFC vs The World: M-1 CEO invites UFCs Dana White and Co. to a rumble
by Brian Oswald on Jun 4, 2009 2:49 PM EDT
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At yesterday’s Affliction press conference, M-1 CEO Joost Raimond, in an effort to stir the MMA pot, reminded fans — as well as the UFC — that M-1 is willing to work with any organization to determine who the real champions are in each division.
He called out the UFC for choosing to keep its fighters amongst themselves, saying "We would like our best fighters from Affliction, from M-1 and from our partner organizations (Strikeforce) to come out against the best in the world, and if the UFC thinks they have them, bring them on."
Raimond went on to point out how heavyweight deity, Fedor Emelianenko, has beaten every former UFC champion he has faced. "We would like to invite the UFC, Dana White, Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir to our event to come watch a real champion fight," he said.
Later in the press conference, Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio added that, while not a priority now, it is certainly a goal to have the best fighters fight each other. "If the UFC is willing to let their top fighters in Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir fight Fedor, as a fan, I want to see it. And I am certainly not going to get in the way of that."
But Atencio admitted the likelihood of a cross-promotional event was not promising.
"It is not something I see the UFC being willing to do though," he said. "M-1 has sat down with them, we’ve sat down with them, and I just don’t think they are willing. Whether that is out of fear, I don’t know. Bottom line is I am open to it because I am a fan of MMA, first and foremost."
Josh Barnett added to the conversation when he said that he would be willing to face Mir, and Fedor could have Lesnar, or vice versa, it doesn’t matter. "When it comes down to it, only we can do what we do," he said.
While fans can salivate over the possibilities of a heavenly mini-tournament between the best fighters in the world -- regardless of affiliation -- it is unlikely the UFC would agree to put on a cross-promotional event.
As White said as recently as last week, "I would never cross-promote." But we can still dream, can't we?
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would this be awesome?!
my head would explode if it happened…..
by TRIKZ on Jun 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
theres only have 1 reason at all the ufc would even wanna do this and its fedor……….the ufc doesnt wanna make a deal thats gunna save affliction from its enebidable fate….i dunno if spelt it wrong but whatever lol
by JG on Jun 4, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just getting stupid. All the other promoters know the UFC will never copromote an event. The only reason other events are co promoted is because they dont have enough good talent to put together a proper show.
If you took the best fighters from every other org and matched them up with the UFC fightes I am sure the UFC would probably win about 70-80% of the matches. never happening though so who really cares about this?
by NorthStar on Jun 4, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be 100% until you got to the heavyweight division.
by naturalshadow on Jun 5, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“enebidable” – does that mean not able to be eaten?
by Adam T. on Jun 4, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no…i think it means if there is an item at an auction you want to bid on then you may…“is that item still available?”…“yes, its enebidable”
by McArthur on Jun 4, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just their way to get some news coverage, as they know its not going to happen. I practically had forgotten that M1 still existed until this article, lol
by Big D on Jun 4, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dragon’s comment try at comedy Adam T, maybe next time……….
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 4, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would even wanna do this? trust me JG its not just your spelling its your thoughts actually…if your a fan of mma you dream of it every single night..but here you are trying to discuss about affiliations…
by gaara on Jun 6, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be awsome to see two differnt brands of mma fight it out to see who is the best
by stephen on Jun 5, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC doesn’t need to cross-promote. It pulls in billions on its own. Maybe Masseuse’s T-shirt sales have slowed and he needs to try to piggy-back on Dana’s success to make a buck.
by PW on Jun 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed 100%…it reminds me of a little kid that has no friends but has a pool to swim in so he continuously invites people over to swim but nobody comes…brings a tear to my eye actually
by McArthur on Jun 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good analogy – but I think this is more like the kid with a sh*tty pool who has one hot sister trying to get all the kids from the beach to come over and play.
Either way I doubt Dana will be baited.
by Arnold on Jun 4, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree. Eventually Fedor will have to come to the UFC. After Barnett then what? Arlovsky rematch? Ishii wants fedor but he’s an mma baby. Doubt that would keep them afloat. Personally I’m enjoying affliction lose all their t-shirt money. I hope Ed Hardy kicks up their own promotion too. D-bag fight promotions.
by kukuxumusu on Jun 4, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
until the ufc answers this challenge, they can’t say they have the best fighters in the world. Dan White’s beliefs, views, values, and company has been “called out”. Not answering this challenge would be worse than losing the fights themselves. Put up or shut up Dan
by deuce 4 on Jun 4, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally believe he does have the best fighters in the world…if any fighter from another org wants to prove him otherwise than its up to them to go to the UFC and prove it…
by McArthur on Jun 4, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC has a lot of the best fighters but not all. We all kmow that the UFC doesn’t need to do this but the majority of MMA fans would love to see the best of each org go at it even if Danas’ loyal army do not, and if Dana is that confident he has the best, what could be better for the UFC than taking out the best its competition has to offer. He always talks about doing what the fans want and having all the best fighters in the world, this way he could prove it once and for all and speed up the demise of his competition at the same time.
by Ade on Jun 6, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are so many fights I’d love to see. To bad the empire won’t play nice with the rebels… That the world of business for ya.
by Cole on Jun 4, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would any business do anything to help its competitors cut into their profits? You’re stupid.
by PW on Jun 4, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya…it would be like Coke asking Pepsi to try using their labels for a couple months
by McArthur on Jun 4, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why is it always all about money. my god, money money money. it makes me sick that to some people, money is their god. money money money, i’m only happy with more and more money!! that is a pathetic existence in this day and age, pitiful. God rest those people’s soul
by deuce 4 on Jun 4, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…and you don’t think M1’s goal in utilizing the UFC’s popularity in a cross promotion is driven by money?
Have you ever built something, maybe a house, a company, anything at all? If so, then you know what it means to put everything you have into something. I get it, you hate Dana (or Dan from your earlier posts) and lots of guys do, and for one reason or the other you hate the UFC as well. However, why would anyone attempt to make an argument that proposes that “Dan” and the UFC should make decisions that would please all of thier competition (who are also in it for the pathetic chase of the almighty dollar, but simply not making as much of it) and at the same time disregard any business sense that got them to where they are in the first place.
If your frustration has simply boiled over from Dana’s inabilty to get Fedor, fine, I’m with you, but for the record, yes it is always about the money, and when anyone tells you different, thier lying just so they can sell you a book talking about how it’s not about the money.
by Jrandolph on Jun 5, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The empire is just scared that the rebels who want to come out and play could ruin what they’ve already built. the UFC should play with the rebels, so they could prove to everybody out there that their stables have the best fighters on the planet.
But since the UFC thinks otherwise, then M-1 and the rest of the rebels could suck it all up for the meantime. Dream matches in MMA are just dreams, that’s it. That’s why I like boxing promotions more, they’re more flexible. Hope the MMA promos could also adapt this type of flexibility.
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 4, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow that is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Would the NBA go play a tournament against other leagues. Or the MLB go play against the Japan league. Why doesn’t the NFL play games against the CFL. You don’t because you have to protect your investments. What if one of your fighters gets realy hurt career over injury. How great of an idea would it be then. If you wan’t to watch the best fighters you watch the UFC. If you want to watch one great fighter watch affliction. The UFC is a league of fighters not a promoter of a fighter.
by CANADA Michael on Jun 4, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhm, yes? How about the New York Knicks playing this Euro-Team next pre-season? Don’t go preachin’ on me about the NBA or NFL. I’ve been watchin’ games while you were learning to walk! Peace!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 5, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why should the UFC risk what they built,why should they do anything to help these other org..What have they done for the UFC except talk trash,act like their org. is better.All they have is Fedor and Barnett,and they act like they are great org..Like I said earlier ,the UFC can wait this next fight out ,and watch where Fedor lands.If,I mean when he beats Barnett,if he does not join UFC ,then he is ducking UFC.He said he wants to fight Mir and Brock,he will come to the UFC.
On the other hand ,I think M-1 keep doing this crap to make Fedor think they are really trying to get these fights together,when all they are doing is blowing smoke up his a##,I think they know they are about to lose their golden ticket
by scott on Jun 5, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NY Knicks pre-season exactly. I’m sure Dana would send Mike Wessel or Justin McCully to fight Fedor if they want. The stars won’t play real minutes. I’m sure while your complaining about your boss making too much money you will have time to watch those Euros against those Knicks. Why don’t the rebles just rebel and take over the empire. Thier is a reason 10% of people have all the money. Cause they keep just holding the little man down?! LMAO. Those who can do figure it out. Keep watching all that NBA and NFL.
by CANADA Michael on Jun 5, 2009 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually michael…u sounded like a real d-bag trying to compare a ball game to a combat sport…jesus christ! yes they are both orgs,sports but can please compare mma to any other combat sports and there you will get your answers…and by the way dana would not only be helping affliction if he agrees…he will help us all mma fans and those hopeless wannabees be educated…FACT! face it SCARED is the WORD!
by gaara on Jun 6, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
notice they only called out the ufc’s HW champs, i would love if this happend though. I would love to see mir vs barrnet, probably more than fedor kill brock.
by Blazy J on Jun 4, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah everyone talks about Fedor-Brock. It would suck IMO. Fedor would just get sub him real quick i bet. Barnett and Mir would show us a much more technical ground fight, that’d be sick
by medecine balls on Jun 4, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup, that’s because it’s only the HW div that they have the advantage, with BArnett, AA and Fedor. but the rest of the divisions, they don’t have an answer to. Who are they gonna match-up with Anderson? With Lyoto…That’s right, nobody!!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 4, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cung Le has never been defeated in a combat sport. he might not beat Anderson Silva, but regardless, he is a guy that has to be accounted for in any debate at MW
by deuce 4 on Jun 4, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im sorry to crack up your balls syd…
anderson vs vitor
lyoto vs mousasi
penn vs aoki
all of them are dream matches if you would ask me and are very exciting fights…they would put on a great challenge for your ufc dogs…sori but i just cant think of someone who will beat gsp under the WW banner
by gaara on Jun 6, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
on one hand the match ups would be nice and on the other hand M1 would go to any extent to put their name out there and advertise .. UFC in the mix is only good for M1 from business prespective.
by commoner on Jun 4, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is, M-1 and the others only wanna ride UFC’s coattails.[did I spell that 1 right?]
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 4, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the Russian promoters are genuine in the fact that they wanna see the best vs. the best. maybe it doesn’t have as much to do with money, popularity, and advertising as u think. With Russia and the former states of the Soviet Republic, there might be more M-1 fans than ufc fans world wide. copromoting would ONLY help M-1 in the U.S. Globally it might help the UFC more if they copromoted with a popular Eurasian promotion. it’s easy to believe u’ve got the toughest dog in the neighborhood when u never let him out of his pen
by deuce 4 on Jun 4, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
F*ck them for calling out the UFC. I wander why they want the UFC’s fighters. The only thing they can continually hang their hat on is Fedor. Of f*cking course they want to partner with the organization that has 90% of the best fighters in the world. I reiterate F*ck them, especially Atencio.
by Adam T. on Jun 4, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah,mainly f#ck the guy from M-1 ,they know good and well ,Dana is not going to do it,and why would he try to help other org. get big off of UFC fighters,when he can just wait and get all of their good fighters.
by scott on Jun 4, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
90%???ROFL please stop posting bro.
by Khaos_Warrior on Jun 4, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does not matter,Affliction will be dead after this event,and Fedor will be in UFC,watch and see.I still think that Fedor is in negotiations with Dana and Lorenzo
by scott on Jun 4, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your comment about Fedor. Pay Fedor whatever the hell you have to. The return on the investment will be many times over that cost. At least that is my hunch. There are several other guys that I would love to see also but FEDOR is obviously the big one (understatement). No way the UFC lets Fedor slip through their fingers.
by Adam T. on Jun 4, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why they only call out the heavy weights?
THE UFC HEAVY WEIGHT DIVISION IS WEAK.
ufc Lightweights to the Lightheavyweightss has the best fighter in the world. I dont see them talking about those guys.
by ✰Pretty Boy✰ on Jun 4, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They call out the HWs because thats what they have….HWs durrrr
by Khaos_Warrior on Jun 4, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Affliction and Strikeforce have more than just heavyweights. And I ain’t your bro.
by Adam T. on Jun 4, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not your friend dude… :)
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 4, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not according to dana white. according to him the ufc has the only good fighters in the world, HW’s included. he said the same things about PRIDE, then took his money cow over there and watched him get obliterated sooo bad that he quit mid-round
by deuce 4 on Jun 4, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that was pretty funny. Then he turned that guy into his money cow and had him beat the old one again.
by Diceman on Jun 4, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a UFC vs the world would be sick
Brock/Mir vs Fedor
Machida/Rampage vs Babalu or anyone else you can think of
Anderson Silva vs Cung Le if he ever fights again
GSP vs shields or Diaz
Penn Vs Aoki
the ufc would probably win four of these fights but their all good fights
by jimbo on Jun 4, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the four of five fights that you say the UFC would win would be pretty dominant wins. Assuming I can guess the one that they wouldn’t.
by Adam T. on Jun 4, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
babalu would last a round with either dude
by ruanfiy on Jun 4, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your post Jimbo..
Babalu or Moggousi (mispelled)
Instead of Le : Manhoef , Fihlo, Mayhem, or that dude mayhem just fought.
GSP, MACHIDA, and SILVA should be safe with those matchups
Penn and Brock might be in trouble
by robbyc on Jun 4, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Brock Not Penn. Bj is the best LW alive period
by lokie on Jun 4, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correctum! Aoki ain’t worth sh!t against Penny.
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jun 4, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on mister CEO M-1 global presidente….the UFC will nerver accepet that and you know it….Do you know why? Jst becouse you want promote your show and you are not going to get this help from the UFC
by ThiagO on Jun 4, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s not about promoting a name brand, it’s not about 1 company outdoing another company, it’s about the fights and the matchups. it’d be sic getting to watch all the best duke it out. say what u will about anderson silva being the best in his division, but there’s a few fighters outside the ufc in his weight class that are better than cote and leites that he could’ve fought instead of wasting a year of his career on those 2
by deuce 4 on Jun 4, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not about you and what you want…like PW said its a business, and the UFC does the best business 10 fold…
by McArthur on Jun 4, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that is a shame that it’s only about money to Dana White. i guess being a bellboy n getting run out of ur hometown by a couple wannabe mobsters will do that to a guy
by deuce 4 on Jun 4, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Deuce…welcome to the real world. This fantasy land you live in must be pretty nice for you to turn your back on reality.
by MM_Eh on Jun 4, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These callouts are pathetic. It’s like me and my friends calling out the Yankees to play a game of baseball. The Yankees would never accept, I guess they must be afraid.
TFK
by TFK on Jun 4, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah unless a few of your friends are Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, and some other all-stars. Still don’t see the point of this “call-out” though.
by Diceman on Jun 4, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be great if the UFC would indeed allow such things to happen, but they wont. If they let a GSP or Anderson Silva fight elsewhere and they lost it could be bad for the org.
by Curtis on Jun 4, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see how Fedor responds to the cage. Most of the fighters have had trouble going from a ring to the cage so even though he is part machine/part human there still could be a challenge with the new environment. I think he would have problems with someone like Randy because he knows how to use the cage to his advantage.
Also, this whole statement is so dumb because it would never happen. How many times does Dana have to say he will not cross promote because it does not make any logical sense for them to allow another company to poach in on their profits. It is just a cheap way to get some extra publicity on the MMAtalkshow circuits.
by Jared on Jun 4, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No way in hell Dana would agree to that rubbish, and why should he. he is number #1. Most people couldn’t care one bit about M1 and the tv shirt brand….
Fedor needs to grow some balls, piss off his managers and join the UFC.
by nath on Jun 4, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it happened I don’t think UFC would gain anyththing by doing so… they’re asking the top league because they want more recognition… that’s all.
by JonnyBoy on Jun 4, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fedor would walk through lesnar..no sh*t..that fight would suck ass..if fedor does fight in the ufc..please oh please..make it a fight that would be exciting..brock is green as f*ck..i’d rather watch kimbo vs lesnar..ahahahaha know what i’m saying..
dana just has to wait..fedor has no choice cuz time is ticking..he can only play in his sandbox so long..though i think he could beat the snot outta most every hw in ufc..
by sarah on Jun 4, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You make me laugh today Sarah …good stuff! :)
oh and your my favorite chicks here on mania…move over McArthur I take your place now…thank you!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 5, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea this is a stupid as statement if you are a owner of a company why say this it makes u look desperate. I think the ufc is satisfide with having the best lw bjpenn the best wwgsp the best mwsilva lhwmachida. If the ufc did it would be disrespectul to the fighters in the ufc who had to fight there way up the rankings with stiffer competition. If Shields cung le or aoki wanna prove that they are the best they need to go to the ufc were there is more consistently good fighters. The hw division is the only division were the champ is better then the champ in the ufc. And diaz had his chance in the ufc he said gsp had a flaming vag and got kicked out.
by desperus on Jun 4, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UFC has nothing to gain and everything to lose by cross-promoting. The only organizations/promotions that would benefit from that – win or lose – would be M1 and Affliction riding the coattails of the UFC.
As cool as it would be as a fan – it makes ZERO business sense for the UFC. Dana won’t do it, and even if he did begin to agree to a cross-promotion, the Fertitta’s should fire him on the spot for being, as Dana would say, a fucking idiot.
-cmd
by cmd on Jun 4, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seem like the fans are all about the corporations. I’m all about the match ups and thats why i follow the UFC, Dream, Affliction, WEC, and Strikeforce. Dana was all about cross promoting until Pride failed. It doesn’t serve mma or me well for the UFC to be the only major org. around, and it really suck for the fighters. Dana has a personality that makes it hard to work for. On his blogs it seems like all the fighters are forced to kiss his ass.
by delldog on Jun 4, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love how smaller organizations try to lure the UFC in with tactics like this. I respect the fact that they want a piece of the action, but hey, the business world is cold. Nobody handed Dana White a hand to help him with the UFC, he had to do it by himself. Now all these other startups want bailouts.
by MMAFan on Jun 4, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This pretty much revolves around them saying we have Fedor and hes the best. The only reason they have him is because they are paying way over his market value. Once he sucks Affliction dry fedor will look to feed off someone else but i dont see it being the ufc, too much chance of taking a beating there – and also they arent likely to throw money at him after he has essentially held them to ransom over terms and pay for 3 years. Affliction is doomed to fold and Fedor needs the UFC more than they need him. I love this situation and I say fuck Fedor, dont sign him Dana even if he comes scraping at your door, he made his bed with outside the UFC, let him lie in it. iN 4-5 years time he will retire and we can all forget about he existed. Fedor has the most boring personality in MMA, just try watching that interview a few posts back, zzzzzzzzzzzz and who the fuck brings their attorney to a tv interview, what a dipshit.
by PanicZoo on Jun 4, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
picking on the ufc heavy weight division again eh, easy target what about the other divisions we clearly have some of the best in those.
by nathan on Jun 4, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dana needs to stop being a dick and let these fights happen.
by tapps on Jun 4, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why, what do they have to gain from letting this happen?
by MM_Eh on Jun 4, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only reason there offering to do this is cause the ufc does’nt do cross promotions and they wanna make it look like the ufc is afraid wen thats not the case..
by guyverbob on Jun 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey.. paniczoo did fedor take your virginity and left you? why you hate him so much?
by danny on Jun 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, I lost my virginity to your Dad when I was a child, he still calls me asking to toss my salad, dickhead.
Anyway, I dont hate the guy but the way he handles his business is frustrating as a fan, so much talk about a Randy fight – then he fights Sylvia??wtf nobody wanted to see that fight. All the best pride guys sign with UFC and are happy with terms, not Fedor!wtf Arlovski goes from undercard on UFC but fights fedor as a main event and its a great victory?!!? Ohhh please wtf.
There are so many reasons to dislike Fedor
1. He claims best in world without proving it.
2. He thinks beating a former champion is the same as beating a current champion.
3. He is all about the money and greed.
4. He has the personality of a computer programmer.
5. He has a record full of cans and has beens.
6. He stops a load of good fights from happening.
7. He doesnt care what fights mma fans want to see.
8. He brings his fucking nanny attorney with him everywhere.
9. His jumpers look itchy.
10. The ref in the Mark Hunt fight gives out stand ups quicker than mazzagati.
11. WAMMA belt he wears is worthless and bad for the sport.
12. His fans follow him like a religious figure and think he is infallible.
Bottom line is i think he is overrated and his attitude stinks, he’s just another fighter and should have joined the UFC years ago, his actions at affliction are costing fans money, holding up fights and putting Attencio trump et al in the red while he profits and trots around in his silly pullovers smirking smugly. WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT HIM? Answer that.
by PanicZoo on Jun 5, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Antonio Nogueira, Cro Cop and now Josh Barnett. All five of those guys make everyone’s top ten heavyweights list. Not sure it’s fair to say his entire record is cans and has-beens.
I like him because his fights are exciting. There is more to being a champion than just winning. His survival of Fujita and Randleman, and keep in mind he beat Nog when Nog was 20-1 and considered invincible.
Fedor is also 30-1 in a crazy sport where anything can happen — that impresses me.
You say he’s all about the money and greed, well who isn’t? If the UFC offered him 250k plus an additional 250k win bonus or Affliction guaranteed him 1 million a fight what should he do? Eat the extra money to prove he’s not scared of Lesnar or Randy?
by Jesse Holland on Jun 5, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PanicZoo,prepare yourself to feel john’s wrath tomorrow for that statement!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 5, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for cro cop you are right, those guys are in the top ten but the AA, Sylvia fights would have been far more relevant 3 years ago in a cage when they were UFC champions, he hasnt taken Barnett yet either but Barnett is another guy i think is way overated and has no chance.
Im not saying fedor isnt a good fighter but his record has a much larger proportion of padding than most and he has already made loads of money so now i think its a question of integrity or greed, do the better fight for 500k or just take the mil for a second rate fight instead.
Look at henderson for an example of personal integrity and drive to fight the best (2 things fedor doesnt haVE) – he could have made more money elsewhere and been WAMMA LHW and MW champ but the guy has balls and desire and I respect him for stepping up to the plate even though he lost both belts. Fedor took the cheap mans option and yeah he hasnt been beaten but he also didnt defend his pride hw title or take the chance to beat an MMA legend in Couture in a historic fight to uniify the titles, why the hell not. What a missed oportunity and for what? A bit more money in an already huge bank account. Nahh i dont respect it.
I want to see him fight and become a fan but he isnt doing it for me, I want to see him in the UFC after his next fight and know all but the diehard fedor fans do too.
What would you like to see as Fedors next move Jesse? Whats the best thing he could do…
by PanicZoo on Jun 5, 2009 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can take a beating and still finds a way to win, every time.
Most resilient fighter I’ve ever seen.
Talented in every area.
Looks like your sloppy russian uncle but fights like nobodies business.
Also seems like a good guy.
And my personal favorite is someone asked his little daughter if she gets nervous before he fights. He response “No, he always wins.”
And everyone loves a winner right? Especially in mma, it’s all about whose winning right now. Fairly fickle fans I’d say.
And yeah I hate his mgmt team but I’m not gonna cry about it.
Oh and they stood them up in the Mark Hunt fight because they give you 30 seconds to advance your position and well Hunt’s ground game is a joke and he wasn’t even a threat to pass his guard. And wouldn’t a stand up benefit him.
You can’t have it both ways.
by scissorfight on Jun 5, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey panic maybe danny’s dad f*ck your azz and mouth so hard you cant even say sh*t… your a sad kid? still calling you? try asking for help maybe someone in wwe and has exciting personality would help you… maybe they fu*ckd you so hard your brain is screwed!!!
by gaara on Jun 6, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLAME M-1 NOT DANA … Fedor wont fight in ufc because of his own managment and the M-1 Dudes. Dana Has siad he would sign him . Blame Finklestien ( the shady dude from pride days & NOW HES M-1 .. the guy Bas Rutten Hates ) BLAME HIM!
by dumb numb on Jun 4, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1.fedor has already proven alot.. havent you not seen any of his fights? 2.the current ufc champ is lasner..you got to be joking if you think he is any better than all those fighters fedor has fought..lasner is a rokie!! 3.fedor lives in a shity old apartment… he is NOT all about money!! 4.personality doesnt win fights!! he is the most humble guy 5.why cant dana just let him compete on the sambo tourny once a yaer thats pretty much his only condition. its danas fault he didnt fight randy 6.he is willin to fight anybody and co-promote. the ufc doesnt 7.those peplo are his traslators he doest speak english 8.you think fedor has control over refs? 9. givin brock a title shot wihtout earning it is stupid and bad for the sport (big nog deserved that shot) 10.he has fans all over the world the only place where there is fedor haters is here in the US why ?cuz of guys like you who buy everything that comes out of danas mouth bottom line fedor has beaten everybody he has faced…name a ufc fighter that can beat fedor right now MIR,BROCK,KONGO,BIG NOG,CAIN,HEATH,hell no…
by danny on Jun 5, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here is a list of the ufc fighters fedor has already beaten
Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira twice
mark colemon twice
heath herrings
kevin raddlemon
tim silva
andre orlovski
gary goodridge
and he is is 31 -1
by silent jay on Jun 27, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah by the way paniczoo i lost mine to your mom who stills calls me askin me for money to buy you shoes..
by danny on Jun 5, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A chance that your not brothers b/c it would be weird!Way better to lose your virginity to a women than a men!Nice comeback though!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 5, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And i just thought about it and even if your not brothers…it still repugnant!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 5, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they are brothers alpha then it would help..they would co promote…how bwt danny would continue f*cking panic’s mom and his dad still continue to butt and mouthf*cked panic…that’s co promotion if you’l ask me…panic is just sour coz he’s being buttF before mouthF…ewwww!!
by gaara on Jun 6, 2009 1:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is why i don’t like dana white, he is selfish and doesn’t care about mma at all just wants all other organizations to fall so can take over just like hitler lol
by silent jay on Jun 27, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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