UFC Quick Quote: 'Rampage' Jackson reports for duty on the set of TUF 10
by MMAmania.com on Jun 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT
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"I'm starting the first day at my new job. Hope my co-worker likes me! Haha ..."
-- Former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson is today on the set of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 10 for the first day of filming the Spike TV-produced mixed martial arts reality series. Jackson caused quite a stir last week when he opted to coach opposite Rashad Evans rather than accept a title shot against new division champion Lyoto Machida later this year. He and Evans apparently have some unfinished business to take care, which began immediately after Jackson defeated Evans' training partner, Keith Jardine, back in March. So will Jackson's big gamble pay off like he expects it to or did he shoot himself in the foot by passing on an opportunity to once again possibly become a world champion sooner rather than later?
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I’m pissed. I have a rental house here in Albuquerque that I staged with decor items from my own home to get it sold. It was robbed! I was out of town and best I can tell it happened around three weeks ago. My wife is a painter and 13 of her best paintings were taken. Needless to say, I’m in the Dog House. Insurance won’t cover it. They said if it was a second home, it would be covered, but b/c it was advertised for rent, it’s not covered…sucks! I called pawn shops and one guy told me they have to report their inventory every friday and that the albuquerque police department cross references the items with their stolen item list. We filed a report yesterday, but I don’t count on anything turning up. The guy mention the flea market as a likely place to sell stolen items so I will be going to that Saturday. I called several staging companies to see if anyone had stolen from their staged homes and didn’t get anything useful. I’ve check Craigslist and ebay (sellers within 50 miles of me).
Any Ideas guys?
I wanted to unlock the doors and sleep there with my gun, but my wife nixed that idea.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jun 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry bout your luck Punch…hang in there man ;)
by McArthur on Jun 1, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn punch!I’m also sorry for you.
Most of the time when you get robbed,it’s someone that you know.I’m not necessarily saying someone in your entourage but someone in your neighborhood.
Go check around the your street you’ll probably come up with a suspect list.
Then i,would look for who’s the “boss”(Drug dealer) in your area.90% of the time it’s them who’s got your stuff.B/c little shitty robbers often are stealing for drug money.
If you had electronics or Jewelery in your house that’s the first place to look…not the pawn shop.
Unless the pawn owner is the,one responsible or is in connivance for the stealing in your area but this is rare case.
Don’t waste your time to stay there with your strap,they won’t comeback.Especially if it makes 3 weeks that this even as occur.
Now if you,only had arts in your house,i would say that it’s really rare to find back these,type of thing.B/c those who steel arts are not the usual robbers and,they got to have plugs to get rid of their(your)stuff!That’s why i toll you to look around your neighboor.People had to know that you weren’t there and for that,they must have check the house a few time before.
If that was complete random,robbers w/o any motive or drug problem(which is really rare) i’ll say keep doing what your doing right now!You,might have some luck and find it back.But i got to say,like O dam you’ll be better just cut your loss and move on.
Sorry to not being,very helpful but that’s what i,would do.It did happen to a few peoples that i know and 85% of the time we did find back the stuff.B/c robbers don’t have many place to go when,they got “hot stuff” to sell and,we are fortunate enough to know everyone “in charge”of those places in our city!
Keep up the good attitude though.You don’t want to go on rampage and make mistake that,would penalise you and your familly!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 1, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch, what a kick to your nuts, punch you in the ovaries.
Sorry, it came to my mind and I just had to.
That really blows. You’ve pretty much done what you can, outside of going “Man on Fire”.
by ViolentMike on Jun 1, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Man on Fire” haha…if you see something at the Flea market my best advice is simply lose it on the guy…it works 50% of the time
by McArthur on Jun 1, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you had homeowners’ insurance on that house it should be covered. Once you have tenants, then you contact your insurance carrier to convert from homeowners (which covers the house and your possessions) to a landlord policy (which covers just the house, while the tenants get a renters’ policy to cover their stuff.) If you had already converted to landlord coverage then you’re screwed.
by PW on Jun 1, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brutal stuff man, as far as the paintings- if i was you instead of the flea market, i would do the obvious and check small hippy/art places around and possibly 2nd hand stores- any one claim that they painted it themselves so they wouldn’t be hard to sell. There can’t be too many places where you can unload those materials unless they took them for the expensive frames. Good luck though.
by NameNotRequired on Jun 1, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, coverage for “Vacant” homes is usually excluded in the policy wordings (at least here in Canada). That said, depending on how long it was vacant (the exclusion sometimes doesn’t kick in until 30 days) and the attitude of your Broker or Insurer, you may still get lucky.
I feel for you man. Although, I’m definitely with your wife on nixing any plans involving your gun.
by Canucklehead on Jun 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry to hear that man! hope u can get it back!
by john on Jun 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEWS***
Professor X was cut from the uFC.
Jose Canseco thinks he went out like a warrior against Choi and wants to eventually fight in the UFC…btw, he also claimed that he was dominating choi!
by john on Jun 1, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLS! hahaha.. Jose is the man!
Professor X should go to Strikeforce..
by RoB on Jun 1, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much for NM (I think it was him) hyping up Professor X.
by Synyster on Jun 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted the prof x story about noon, mania edited it!
by kevin on Jun 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks john fot the good laugh
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude that sucks big time, hate to hear it.
by Dragon on Jun 1, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to hear…. There are some low people around.
by Nick on Jun 1, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait for this fight. On a side note, anyone want to buy some paintings…cheap! Sorry had to.
by jay on Jun 1, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is rough, sh!tty feeling getting robbed, I been robbed at gun point before and it just sucks. The only thing I would suggest is cut your loss’s and move on; the probability of the police turning up anything is remote. Sorry I can’t be of much help but I’ve been in the same situation before and seen absolutley ZERO results.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 1, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had 3 necklaces, 2 bracelets, cash and a gun stolen years ago. Obviously I didn’t report the gun, but all the jewelry was recovered from a pawn shop! Not only did I get it back, but I got the guys name who robbed me…needless to say, I got my cash back too, and then some! This was back in my dark past! Hang in there Punch, let the cops do their job! As far as being in the dog house, can’t help you!
by kevin on Jun 1, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way punch, as much as it’s off topic and tragic, thank you for making this thread anything but about the next season of tuf!
by kevin on Jun 1, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks everyone for suggestions and sympthies. I did convert the policy to a landlord’s policy (fire policy) long ago.
PW,
I thought the personal property coverage on my homeowner’s might extend to my rental b/c that’s how it works with liability coverage, but nope. It sucks to pay insurance consistently for 10 years with no claims only to get denied when you actually need to file one.
Canuckle Head, you’re right. Insurance sucks.
Kevin,
A guy at a pawn shop claimed that thieves knew better than to go to Pawn shops now b/c the owners are supposed to report inventory, but who knows. Thanks for making me laugh with the Jose Conseco story.
Nick/Dragon/Ruanfly/Violent Mike/McArthur, John thanks for the support
O Damn, I suppose my situation is better than being robbed at gunpoint.
NNR,
I think I will check some of the thrift shops in the area. Thanks for the idea.
Ultimately, I’m not too upset over it. I told my wife, you can expect shitty things to happen at least once every year. So long as those shitty things aren’t cancer, death of family, rape, loss of child, etc, you have to count yourself lucky. The only real drive I have to catch the guy is a strong sense of justice. I just can’t stand when low lifes get away this kind of stuff.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jun 2, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hal, joke or serious?
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jun 2, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin, was that back in the “Miami” days?
by Jrandolph on Jun 2, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah! once u get robbed with a gunpoint u really cant do anything unless you’re fedor..lol.. just trying to make u laugh man..its tough to be robbed especially these days…find leads punch but let the police do the rest..
by gaara on Jun 2, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, this was in Rhode island, but yeah, my “miami” days!!!
by kevin on Jun 2, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, no help now, but if you had told them that someone was still residing in the home while it was listed they would have had to consider filing a claim. But your policy will state that they don’t cover personal property if it is in a vacant home. You may have a loophole if the home has only been vacant for 30 days or less. It sounds like they got you over a barrell though. I’m a licensed Ins adjuster in the state of TX, but most homeowner policies are similar.
I feel your pain though, I just got my New Ford F250 stolen in New Orleans, after installing a bunch of aftermarket equipment. It really pisses my off to think they got away with it. I feel for you, good luck man you never know it may turn up
by Jrandolph on Jun 2, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
blatant slap to the face of machida. Idiots at spike looking for ratings…
by j_orange on Jun 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I read that Machida declined the coaching spot. I’m sure his manager Ed Soares was having nothing with it. I don’t blame him. Machida can do his talking in the octagon and go down as one of, if not the greatest fighter of all time.
Regarding Rampage, although is it easy to criticize him as I have done relentlessly recently he is making a very smart move. He mentioned that he wanted the time to really heal up and most importantly work on his all around game. He made some very good comments about needing to become more well rounded and sharpen up certain aspects of his game. He said that he wanted to be like GSP. Some pretty cool and humble remarks from Page.
by Adam T. on Jun 1, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam I agree with you but Rampage didn’t say that..he said he wanted revenge becuase Rashad got his in face and turned down a title shot for that reason…who would believe that? Considering these guys travel together and do photo shoots all time, how much can they really dislike one another?
by Robert(1) on Jun 1, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like being at work, you gotta work with people regardless of wether you like them or not, I know I work with a couple people I can’t stand; only in this job you might get a chance to beat the hell out of them.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 1, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shad’s fighting someone right after Jardine did??? Huh…thats weird (sarcasim)
by McArthur on Jun 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you high rampage waiting makes sense he gets to see machida fight again and giving him more time to study his style and in the mean time he gets to fight a arch rival.
by robj23 on Jun 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND if perhaps somehow Shogun wins, then Rampage might get his title shot AND revenge on Shogun all at once
by McArthur on Jun 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? Machida has already had 7 fights inside the Octagon and you think Rampage will benefit from seeing him in one more?
Rampage ducked the title fight and I think it’s going to come back to haunt him because I’m picking Rashad in this fight. I think he’s just a little quicker than Page and that will earn him the knockout.
Rampage is definitely a top 5 fighter, but I got Rashad and certainly Machida above him.
by Mahde on Jun 1, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Study his style! He can study all day, everyday, for years and Rampage will not be able to beat Machida. Rampage fights to flat footed. Machida will pick him apart like Ali fighting Butterbean.
by DR on Jun 1, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fights too flatfooted? give me a break, Rampage’s footwork is good, and him staying on his feets gives him alot more power than someone who is jumping around..
by RoB on Jun 1, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldnt matter if rampage trains 5 yrs straight for machida, still wouldnt figure him out. Its sad to hear rampage boast he will fight anyone, then find out he is a coward, who would decline a title shot when given a chance, just some bullshit excuse to fight rashad, who i think will run circles around rampage, what is rampage going to do if rashad beats him. might as well retire he will be irrevelant in the LHW division. Ramapage scared little girl, and a coward. fight machida if your so brave.
by dtoto on Jun 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if rampage loses than that puts him back…i don’t think its smart
by ufcfanatic23 on Jun 2, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say this, but Reshad is winning this fight. Rampage is too dumb to beat Reshad. Rampage is like Bullrog from Street Fighter. He hits hard, but he’s one dimensional. Reshad will have a good game plan against him and beat his ass. Knock out in round 2 or unanimous decision in Reshad’s favor.
by E-Spaghetti on Jun 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you call Rampage dumb and you can’t even spell Rashad and you see it written everyday in blogs and posts. Evans may win but it surely won’t have anything to do with his IQ. All of you need to learn to use the spell check button before you call out someone else’s intelligence.
by Z on Jun 1, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rampage 1 dimensional? you see him fight sakuraba or arona? 1 dimensional wouldn’t have gotten out of subs like he does, rampage is a wrestler with brutal power..
i guarantee rashad gets destroyed in this one he’s to small to play the rampage game, and it’s a new refocused meaner rampage then before he won the belt.. the new page will be champ again someday, he will be the only person that can hang with machida ever
by randy murders on Jun 1, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for sure man. forest griffin was kicking rashads ass with just his punches which got him 2 rounds. rampage will clip rashad multiple times and if he wants hell take rashad down.
RAMPAGE WILL WIN BY DOMINATING DECISION
by Jared on Jun 1, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you guys.. Rampage has the best boxing defense in the LHW division which allows him to counter and he is a powerful puncher..
by RoB on Jun 1, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the slow mo’s they had with him in the forest fight were freaken awesome. watching him duck and dodge forest and counter in slow mo was sweat. too bad it wasnt enough.
by chris on Jun 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that was beautiful to watch.. I loved it!
by RoB on Jun 1, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rampage is way to one dimensional, he is way slower than rashad, his punches are like slow motion compared to rashad, has not lateral movement, cant throw kicks, or check them, has no BJJ. He doesnt even use wrestling anymore, even forrest had him on his back, rashad will destroy him. rampage hasnt evolved and he is dumb as dirt.
by dtoto on Jun 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree with you. Machida may have made Rashad look bad, but I don not see Rampage doing the same thing. Rampage never changes his strategy he los to Forrest, had a good knockout of Wandy and had a mediocre win against Jardine. Quite a few people were talking about his ground game, but in his fight with Jardine there was nothing to be impressed about. I think that Rashad has more ways of winning this fight, but if he refuses to use his wrestling and his explosive takedowns like he did against Machida, then I say it will be a pretty even striking match. I am hoping his ego will not get the better of him and he does more than just try to outstrike Page, but I think it probably will. I am sure I remember John saying that Ramapge is light years ahead of Rashad I seriouly doubt that. Especially looking at the Forrest and Jardine matches, and this fight will definately prove it. Do I think that Ramapge is worried about Machida making him look bad, your damn right I do, beacause he most definately would. His coming forward fighting style is made for Machida. Rampage knows he would lose if he did not come up with a new fighting strategy. Maybe that is what he needs the extra time for.
by Ade on Jun 1, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually agreeing with E-Spaghetti (not the dumb bit though, maybe too set in his ways at the moment) those other posts were not there when I was keying my reply
by Ade on Jun 1, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t ever compare mma to street fighter again, Jesus Christ dude……….
by Dragon on Jun 1, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Page definitely doesn’t feel like he’s ready to fight Lyoto. He does have the right skill set to win, though.
by Dana's a CrossDresser on Jun 1, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone ever think the cards fell into place the way Dana may have wanted them to?
by DJ on Jun 1, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is a coward and a criminal.
by Green Inferno on Jun 1, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow some people have no clue about mma do they
by robj23 on Jun 1, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know who the asistant coaches are on Team Rashad????
I am very interested to see if Greg Jackson is going to be an “asistant” coach or not. My guess would be that he is too buisy for TUF and Rashad will be lucky if he has Winklejohn as his striking coach. I have a feeling that neither will be asistant coaches, but I am hoping they are. If its Team Jackson vs Team Wolfslair, I have a hunch that Team Jackson opens as the favorites (not knowing which fighters are on which team)
by ViolentMike on Jun 1, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MANIA!!! Jesse!!!!!!!!!!
Any inside info on this one yet???
by ViolentMike on Jun 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winklejohn but probly McSweeney- i don’t think he has a fight anytime soon, jardine (but he’s busy with Silva), Marquardt(busy with maia but that’s not for a while). Don’t know who their BJJ guy is over at greg’s though. I doubt any big names though probly a few guest coaches.
by NameNotRequired on Jun 1, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about going out smelling like shit and coming BACK in smelling like a rose?? WOW. I am shocked that Rashad got the opportunity of a lifetime, AGAIN!!
INSTEAD of ending like Jon Fitch and MOST others that lose a title shot, that is going back into the middle of the mix and fighting and clawing back in while barely being recognized. NOW, he gets REWARDED for losing? WTF??? He knows the popularity he will gain, whether it is GOOD or BAD, in the long run it ends up as MORE money to Rashad. That is a nice gift, that NO OTHER fighter that loses a title shot will ever get.
Evens just got a really big gift. He could of VERY WELL ended up like Fitch, clawing JUST to get on the televised portion of a PPV and hardly being talked about, PERIOD!!!
by fightfan on Jun 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t going to happen anyways… Fitch was never the champ and he’s pretty boring as a person
by RoB on Jun 1, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fitch was never the Champ and Rashad beat two huge name fighters in his last two fights, people know him.
by Cliff on Jun 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t pass up shit, he RAN AWAY!!! lol
He’s just buying himself more time, but it’s not doing to do him any good.
by Alex on Jun 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Page is smart.. fighting Rashad makes more sense and it’s gonna do better numbers..
by RoB on Jun 1, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling this entire season is going to turn into And1 Mixtape trash talking sessions.
by DirtyML on Jun 1, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Z, your mom spells it Reshad too when she writes about how she gets pounded by him in her Diary. Your moran!
by E-Spaghetti on Jun 1, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course, a moran, as in Erin Moran, who played Joanie Cunningham on Happy Days. I think that’s a really good comeback to an insult from 12 posts back.
by PW on Jun 1, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
recently I think Rampage has become a bit of an asshole, his videos show him as quite arrogant and almost “hollywood” persona, thats not the Ranpage that arrived in the UFC!!
Plus im still angry at him for not giving me a photo at the o2 arena!!
He has definately ducked Machida here, his priority should be the same as all guys and thats to get the belt, it is hardly a massive grudge match between them!! Hes bottled it!!
Sorry about the robbery ovaries, thats nae use!!
by mo on Jun 1, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there can be no doubt rampage has bitched out of the machida fight, what sort of pro fighter would turn down a title shot for a grudge match, i liked rampage but hes really gone down in my opinion now. If he loses to rashad, which is very possible, what would of been the point coz then he wont be no1 contender, i dont think page believes he can beat machida so is hoping someone else can.
by ukmma on Jun 1, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard from one of the producers of the ultimate fighter 10 that its only going to be heavyweights. and that most of them are huge guys. around 385+ that have to cut weight ofcoarse.
by TRIKZ on Jun 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
385? they’d have to have gastric bypass, or maybe lipo if they plan on fighting in a week or less. That does’nt sound right. 285 sounds right, but I’d love to see a bunch of monsters going at it at 385.
by Jrandolph on Jun 2, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I really think if Rampage is gonna do this he just cant be lazy and mess around and get out of shape like he did last when he coached on the 7th season against Griffin he got out of shape and ended up losing to Griffin which I think if he was in the shape he was for the Wanderlei and Jardine fight he would of edged out the victory against griffin.
So pleas stay in shape and stay in training Rampage!
by Hispanic Panic on Jun 1, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I got rashad winning by unanimous decision
by phenomenal angel on Jun 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw page I hope evans knocks him down the ladder and he never makes it back up. Then he will know how stupid passing up his title shot was. He’s a no-class bum.
by SuperBad on Jun 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Would not bet against nor for Shard until I see if he has gotten his sea legs back. Pretty brutal knock out and his confidence may not be what it once was.
by TapedUpPair on Jun 1, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How and why would anyone ever pass up a chance at a championship?
I heard the Lakers weren’t gonna play Orlando because they have a exhibition game with the Clippers scheduled. You may never get another chance, makes no sense. Have to think Rampage feels he can’t win and is waiting for someone else to take Machida out.
by ******* on Jun 1, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont beleive rampage is afraid of anyone.if he was champ i would accuse him of ducking.its still a business
by hddavidson on Jun 1, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on a side note my apartment was robbed after i was in jail for 2 days years ago.i know it was my roomates because they were swiping motorcycles at the time.i had my cousin rob them 2 days after that
by hddavidson on Jun 1, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it was probaly someone around the area or someone you knew
by hddavidson on Jun 1, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is smart .. he opted to fight someone he feels confident he can beat .. whatever happens in mma happens .. but he has seen Machida just like everyone else and realizes how slim his chances of winning the belt back are against the dragon
by commoner on Jun 1, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Question for mania or Jesse H.
Not a complaint, just wondering if it’s my refresh that takes so long for a comment to show or if thats just normal.
I know it’s probably cuz my comments suck so bad you have to leak them out slowly, so as not to drive people away from he site?
Anyway…
by Jrandolph on Jun 2, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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