Strikeforce: 'Lawler vs Shields' results and LIVE fight coverage for June 6 in St. Louis
by Jesse Holland on May 29, 2009 12:53 PM EDT
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Strikeforce: "Lawler vs. Shields" is set to go off TONIGHT (June 6) from the Scottrade Center in St. Louis, Missouri.
The event, which will air on the premium cable channel SHOWTIME at 10 p.m. ET, features a main event match-up between the last reigning Elite XC middleweight champion, "Ruthless" Robbie Lawler, and the only man to ever hold the Elite XC welterweight title, Jake Shields.
MMAmania.com will deliver LIVE blow-by-blow, play-by-play coverage of all the televised main card action at 10 p.m. ET. Up-to-the-minute quick results of the under card fights will begin to flow much earlier around 7:30 p.m. ET.
Many of our readers check-in before, during and after the SHOWTIME broadcast to share their thoughts on the action. Therefore, feel free to leave a comment or 10 before you leave and chat with many of our readers during the show — it always turns out to be a great discussion.
Keep in mind that we will also be the spot for the latest news, recaps and post-fight analysis after "Lawler vs. Shields."
Without further delay, see below for the latest Strikeforce results. (Note: This will go from the bottom up; therefore, scroll toward the bottom for the latest detailed round-by-round action!)
STRIKEFORCE: "LAWLER VS. SHIELDS" QUICK RESULTS:
Jake Shields defeats "Ruthless" Robbie Lawler via submission (guillotine choke) 2:02 R1
Brett "The Grim" Rogers defeats Andrei "The Pitbull" Arlovski via KO 0:22 R1
Nick Diaz defeats Scott "Hands of Steel" via submission (Brabo choke) 1:41 R3
Joe "Diesel" Riggs defeats Phil "New York Bad Ass" Baroni via unanimous decision (30-27)
Mike Whitehead defeats Kevin "The Monster" Randleman via unanimous decision (29-28)
Jesse Finney defeated Josh Baumgartner via submission (kimura) 1:55 R1
Mike Kyle defeated Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante via KO 4:05 R2
Booker DeRousse defeats James Wade via TKO (strikes) 4:06 R1
Tyron "Tabasco" Woodley defeated Sal Woods via submission (north-south choke) 4:20 R1
Lucas Lopes defeats Scott Ventimiglia via disqualification (knee to a downed opponent) 3:26 R1
Pat Benson defeated Dave Cochran via submission (armbar) 2:18 R1
STRIKEFORCE: "LAWLER VS. SHIELDS" PLAY-BY-PLAY LIVE MAIN CARD COMMENTARY:
Jesse Holland on the scene LIVE in St. Louis. Main card is now underway. Refresh often.
"Ruthless" Robbie Lawler vs. Jake Shields (182-pound limit)
Rounds one: Shields rushes for the takedown but Lawler defends. Against the cage and Shields using knees. Lawler backs away. Nice jab by Shields. Low kick by Shields. Lawler stalking. Shields jumps into guard and takes Lawler's head with him. Lawler trapped in a guillotine and attempts a slam but crumbles before he can execute. Lawler forced to tap.
Final result: Jake Shields defeats Robbie Lawler via submission (guillotine choke)
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Andrei "The Pitbull" Arlovski vs. Brett "The Grim" Rogers (265-pound limit)
Rounds one: Leonidas, I mean Arlovski, low kicks then walks right into a Grimm left-right combo and gets dropped. Big Jon runs in for the save. Fight over. Nostradumbass says EAT IT BITCHES.
Final result: Brett Rogers defeats Andrei Arlovski via KO
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Nick Diaz vs. Scott "Hands of Steel" Smith (180-pound limit)
Rounds one: They throw leather right away. Smith clinches and pushes Diaz to the cage. Diaz backs out and Smith stumbles. Both guys throwing hard. Diaz peppering with jabs. Smith eats a high kick. Diaz all over him with punches. Smith ties him up in desperation. Big John breaks it up. Smith connects but slips. Diaz rushes him. Diaz knees the thighs in the clinch. Diaz growls at him in the center of the cage like a werewolf and Smith clocks him square in the face. They tie up again and Diaz works an arm. Smith picks him up and slams him but Diaz quickly stands. They tee off and Smith lowers him with a low kick. They clinch against the cage. Smith swinging wildly and Diaz nails a takedown at the bell. Insane action.
Round two: They swing for the fences as soon as the round starts. They tie up in the center of the cage and back away. Diaz with a brutal hook to the body and then rains down punches to the face. Smith in trouble. Smith answers with a right. Smith misses a huge head kick. Diaz taking him apart. They clinch and Diaz working the knees. Big Jon breaks it up. Diaz relentlessly jabs. Smith low kick. Superman punch and kick miss for Smith. Another clinch and Diaz backs away then drops him with a body blow. Smith eats the canvas and Diaz follows but the bell sounds before it can be stopped.
Round three: More action right away and Smith not backing down. Diaz with a body shot. Diaz wraps Smith up on the ground and works the jits. Diaz clings like a python and flattens him out. Diaz with the Brabo choke and Smith gets rolled over with nowhere to go but tapsville.
Final result: Nick Diaz defeats Scott Smith via submission (Brabo choke)
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Phil "New York Bad Ass" Baroni vs. Joe "Diesel" Riggs (170-pound limit)
Rounds one: Lots of bobbing and weaving to open the fight. Baroni runs in with a combo and Riggs ties him up and wrestles him down. Baroni rolls but Riggs sinks in a rear naked choke. Baroni escapes. Riggs on top and connecting. Riggs pushes him to the cage and looks for side control. Baroni stands up and Riggs drags him back down. Baroni stands and defends a takedown and plops himself into Riggs guard. Body shots by Baroni. Referee "Big" John McCarthy stands them up and Riggs dives in with a punch and then a shoot. Baroni stays upright and moves to top position, landing periodic strikes until the bell. Close round but probably goes to Riggs.
Round two: Baroni stalking. Spinning backfist by Riggs is an airball. Superman punch lands for Riggs who then scores a takedown. Baroni to his feet and reverses and takes Riggs down. Baroni to da body. Riggs stands and reverses and lands a nice knee. Kicks miss for Riggs. Baroni shoots and pushes Riggs to the cage. Baroni eats a huge knee. Riggs pouring it on. Baroni survives and goes for a single leg but doesn't get it. He tries again and this time gets him down. Riggs grabs an arm and locks up a triangle. It's tight. Baroni escapes and drops a few hammer fists. Riggs sits up against the cage and looks for an exit as time expires. Close, but again to Riggs.
Round three: Hard low kick by Riggs. Two huge knees from Riggs rock Baroni. Baroni with a right. Another knee by Riggs. Jabs connect for Riggs. Kicks by Riggs. Baroni fading. Huge knee by Riggs. Baroni on the run. Failed combo by Baroni. Riggs taunting and unloads with kicks and punches. Stiff jab by Baroni. Riggs answers with a low kick. Riggs ends it with a takedown. Riggs across the board.
Final result: Joe Riggs defeats Phil Baroni via unanimous decision (30-27)
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Kevin "The Monster" Randleman vs. Mike Whitehead (205-pound limit)
Rounds one: Low kicks to open by Whitehead. Oh my God what a shock, Randleman comes out like a maniac, shoots and takes Whitehead down. Whitehead scrambles to his feet. Knees in the clinch by Whitehead. Whitehead takes him down. Randleman powers out. Randleman eats a right on their feet. Whitehead shoots and pushes him to the cage. Randleman hulks up and throws him down. Whitehead shoots again and gets the takedown. Whitehead in side control. Whitehead with body shots. Randleman to his feet. Randleman mouth open wide. Whitehead landing kicks and punches and pushes him to the cage. Big takedown by Whitehead who gets into half-guard. He lands a few before the bell. Round 1 all Whitehead.
Round two: Hard low kick by Whitehead who then shoots and takes him down. Randleman looks gassed. Whitehead in side control with elbows. Whitehead to the body. Crowd boos. Randleman getting smothered. Whitehead to full mount. Randleman escapes and lands a big uppercut. They exchange sloppy strikes in the center of the cage. Then they don't exchange. Action grinds to a halt as they circle each other until time expires. Round 2 to Whitehead.
Round three: Huge overhand right connects for Randleman who then starts taunting. Low kick by Whitehead and Randleman floors him with a right. Randleman pounces and looks to finish but Whitehead survives and gets to his feet. Both men exhausted. They tangle up and go to the cage. Two good jabs by Randleman. Whitehead shoots and takes him down. Whitehead working for position but Randleman escapes. Looping right connects for Whitehead and time expires. Close round.
Final result: Mike Whitehead defeats Kevin Randleman via unanimous decision (29-28)
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Has anyone seen the odds on Shields/Lawler yet? I am psyched for this card. Keep ’em coming Strikeforce.
by Cole on May 29, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lawler: -140
Shields: Even
Bet here: http://www.betus.com/ats/15026/sportsbook/strikeforce-m.m.a.-fight_lines-lines.aspx
by Jesse Holland on Jun 6, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe no one is commenting on Tito and blog sites getting sued by juanito!
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No one is commenting because no one cares
by kevin on Jun 6, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a bs Law suit. If thats all it takes to sue someone its a sad day. Looks like Junito is going broke with a fighter to steal from
by lokie on Jun 6, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, my point is, they give us lame ass stories about cung le’s cameo and his “movie career” but not this!
by kevin on Jun 6, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i cant wait for this!
unfortunately i wont be able to attend..i would have loved to see it live.
here are the stink~mans pickaroonie’s~
shields
diaz
riggs
aa
whitehead
feijao
thats who i got…
i got a bit of money riding on a couple of my picks..
i parlayed diaz, shields and aa..
by stinky~fingers on Jun 6, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got the same main card picks as you Stinker, with the exception of Whitehead.
You comin’ up to Vancouver this summer?
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 6, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope i get out there sometime this summer..ive been crazy busy.
by stinky~fingers on Jun 6, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
other cpomment wise ass…I mean Jesse.
just kidding buddy
by kevin on Jun 6, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man that was a poor performance of Randelman!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 6, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha the “New York bad ass” got his a$$ …!
poor RoB!TTT for the “albino homo”
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 6, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chill out Alpha, i’m not upset at all, I just like to hype the fights up and play a little ala Tito Ortiz for us to have some fun.. He showed his italian warrior spirit and that was good enough for me… Diaz has one hell of a chin! hope he takes this fight, he needs to stop playin now
by RoB on Jun 6, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Smith is getting embarrassed, that dude needs to learn how to bob and weave to get his head out of the way! horrible technique from Smith, and Great from DIaz!
by RoB on Jun 6, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just messing with you buddy!
Wow great win for Diaz…good job for your pick RoB!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 6, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it’s all good =) hehe…
I pray to god that Andrei wins this fight, if not then i will probably smash my keyboard..
gotta get something to drink
by RoB on Jun 6, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the clock is 5,45 a.m here right now btw.. looks like i got a beautiful day ahead of me, gotta get some sleep in before the french open final though, a swede is playing!
by RoB on Jun 6, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too many donuts on that guy, he reminds me of Clubber Lang… household name my a$$, you just don’t become a star because of a win, you gotta have a personality too
by RoB on Jun 6, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn that sucks that you got to watch the fights at that hour!
I don’t know much of this Robin Soderling i’ll go with Federer’s for sure!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 6, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is Clubber Lang?A fatso i suppose?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 6, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so sad, cause i kinda knew deep inside that Andrei’s mind couldn’t be right.. this is the same thing that happened to Cro COp, you need to get an easier opponent after getting KO’d to get your career back on track..
by RoB on Jun 6, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehe, Clubber Lang is a huge black dude with a mohawk that Rocky fights in Rocky III…
Federer is the favorite but Söderling has beat the better players in the tournament (Nadal, Gonzalez) so i think it’s 50/50..
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your right RoB!
Damn someone need to tell Shield’s to clean his hairy nostril
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 7, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor what? :P you mean his physique and incredible personality?
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so that’s it, I knew Shields was going to win.. Lawler has been overrated for so long for beating guys like Smith and Trigg, he has no ground game and he’s only throwing power punches.. he’s still the same guy that lost all those fights in the UFC…
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man i’m pissed!1st AA then Lawler goddamnit!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 7, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually did quite well. I bombed the Main Event (f^ck Jake Shields, I hate him), and although I am a big AA fan and wanted him to win, I put a bet on Grimm. I called Diesel, Whitehead (who should change his nickname) and Diaz. Didn’t make a prediction on the Calvacante fight, or the rest of the undercard.
by Synyster on Jun 7, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody that’s smart knew to bet on Grimm… There were too many factors working against Arlovski coming into this fight but everybody was just staring blind (as usual) at the fighters names thinking OOh Arlovski is gonna dominate Rogers “who is he, he hasn’t fought any real fighters” just like people thought/think after Mir beat Nogueira that he’s gotta be a top 5 HW in the world now, cause it said on paper that MIr beat the man named Nogueira…
The physical and the mental factors coming into fights are crucial and overlooked for the most part, once you hesitate you’re done and im sad that it happened to Andrei here.. That was also what happened in the Shogun/Forrest n Mir/Nogueira fights with Maurizio n Nog coming in injured, problem is that u never know anything up until the fight starts..
now right after the fight you think that smart thing for Andrei should have been to match him up against a BJJ fighter or atleast somebody without that much punching power, you could almost tell that Andrei was afraid by the look in his eyes before the fight… bad management!…
I also think that something many ppl are bad at recognizing in MMA, is that after you get KO’d once and twice ur never going to be the same mentally, it takes time to recover and reuild confidence these guys are not robots lol…
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante can own randelman and whitehead, and he’s not on the main card??
by gflo on May 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Feijao has never been beaten in a fight. ok he has a loss on his record via dq. but he is undefeated in my view
by Braveheart uk&roi on Jun 6, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know where i can watch a live stream 4free
by Hypn0Toad on Jun 6, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sopcast.com….. log in anonymous and look for MMA-TV channel. Riggs/Baroni intros just taking place.
by DJ on Jun 6, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, I actually watched it on justin.tv
by Hypn0Toad on Jun 7, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To my knowledge Riggs has never won a fight.
by mikehunt on Jun 6, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Riggs won the 1st fight against Diaz, but lost the 2nd fight at the hospital.
by jascri on Jun 6, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carano vs. Cyborg confirmed for August 15
by Jesse Holland on Jun 6, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sopcast.com….. log in anonymous and look for MMA-TV channel.
Riggs/Baroni is on… Riggs is schooling him on the ground but no real damage.
by DJ on Jun 6, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where can I watch this online for free???
Please comment back!
by DEATH ANGEL on Jun 6, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man be careful on Justin.tv!I just try it to see if i,could see the prelims…I was on emma8tv or something like that and i saw a link in the chat section so i push it and i got some old dirty gay bastard porno on.I had to shut down my laptop to get rid of it!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 6, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sopcast.com….. login anonymous and look for MMA-TV channel.
by DJ on Jun 6, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im here at scott trade mike kyle looked good local guy booker looked good too . fedor is right in front of us f ing pumped. by the way haven’t been on here in a while back from active duty….
by DbG on Jun 6, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hrm I don’t see Fedor, where is he at? Finney looked good tonight!
by MikeD on Jun 6, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody with dish network? call up and ask for trial showtime. they will give you three months free hbo and showtime if you sign up for their email list.
by day1er on Jun 6, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Feijao looked like shit! Damn, I thought he had this fight in the bag…and Kyle tried to confront Anderson Silva after the fight – very crass indeed.
I got Whitehead, Baroni, Diaz, AA and Lawler winning their respective fights. We’ve already had one shock with Feijao getting KO’d..I just hope AA doesn’t get KO’d by Grim so all the Fedor haters can once again decree that he isn’t P4P no. 1.
by jayshogun on Jun 6, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Be careful what you say about Juanito, he might sue you!!!
by mikey on Jun 6, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too true. This is proof he is done. I dimensional bore-fest.
I was hoping he could come back and prove he has been working on being more well rounded. It was all lies!
by Ca$z on Jun 6, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randleman and baroni need to get some cardio Whitehead-Randleman was garbage and Baroni-Riggs was meh
by Ground fighting is love making on Jun 6, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I actuslly thought he fought a much smarter fight than he usually does. Just got tired and didn’t let his hands go enough.
by Ca$z on Jun 6, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing is that he’s lost too many fights and he is mentally broken, he doesn’t throw back he just covers up…
by RoB on Jun 6, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was refering to an earlier thread where Baroni was talking about what he does, well, what he doesn’t do, in the time leading up to his fights.
by DJ on Jun 6, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow joe riggs looked good.
fight of the night so far imo
by tower on Jun 6, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
smith vs daiz is turning out good too
scott smith is gonna get tired throwing those bombs of his
by tower on Jun 6, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Smith is trying break Diaz’s hand with his head.
He’s definitely from the Ken Shamrock school of mma, he blocks punches with his face lol.
by RobH86 on Jun 6, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
225 punches thrown by Diaz in 2nd rd, he is an animal
by rydinlow on Jun 6, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
smith cant take body punches
by Ground fighting is love making on Jun 6, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was so impressed with Diaz’s boxing in this fight just great movement considering the risks he put himself in.
Impressive indeed.
by Ca$z on Jun 6, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ROFL Diaz talking crap about Smiths gym. God I love Diaz
by rydinlow on Jun 6, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s exactly what I hate about the Diaz boiz… nuthin’ but punks. He could have easily been gracious in victory – he completely dominated Smith. Instead, he trashes Smith’s training partners and camp. Nice.
by DJ on Jun 6, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA yeah that was great calling those guys unloyal
by Ground fighting is love making on Jun 6, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love him or hate him he’s looked flat out incredible in his last couple fights.
by JTD on Jun 7, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diaz was 100% telling the truth.. that is what i like about Diaz, he doesn’t care what anybody thinks, and he’s not ashamed of tellin it like it is, most ppl that are sitting and watching are ashamed and shy of telling the truth and that makes Diaz look like a moron which he is not..
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AA got dropped lol
by Ground fighting is love making on Jun 6, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What da f*ck was that???
Jesse you called it my man!!!
I take it all back!!
Damn
Arlovski needs to work on his chin….LOL
by Ca$z on Jun 6, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes…. yes he did. Questioned AA’s heart after a big loss and pointed out Roger’s hunger for a win….. superb.
by DJ on Jun 6, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Did I call that one wrong, or what? The Grim by utter and total devestation.
by BigRedOne on Jun 6, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, how about that Fedor rematch everyone was screaming about?
by Jesse Holland on Jun 6, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess your proud of your LuckyGrimms?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long before we see Rogers in the UFC?
by prokstar on Jun 6, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was a early stoppage, but the replay shows McCarthy is once again the best. Good Call, Arvlaski should have known that was coming tho.
Slow down tho, Top 10…
He just said Fedor, and Grim said Anybody..Oh my
by jk358 on Jun 6, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Barnett, Fedor watch out LoL at the commentator. Both guys will destroy Rogers
by rydinlow on Jun 6, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that’s too far. Fedor has Barnett and Overeem. After that who’s left besides Rogers (outside of the UFC)?
by prokstar on Jun 7, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Arlovski what happened to you man? We’ll have to start calling you Glass Joe.
by Captain Ernesto on Jun 6, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh my goodness gracious
wtf just happened
i called my friend sayin aa got ko in 12 secs just messing
and when it happens it does in 22 secs noooooooo
AA im sorry retire
by phenomenal angel on Jun 6, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Retire? I agree he should have won that fight, but he ate to big shots from a guy who hits like a fucking tank
by lokie on Jun 7, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was so right about how Arlovski moves straight back
by enzo-enormous on Jun 6, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kknow. Such a terrible tactic against Grimm.
I feel so bad for saying it but he deserved to lose because of that.
by Ca$z on Jun 7, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you know what, AA should always fight in a boxing ring… he has nowhere to go in an octagon like that, and horrible management for taking the fight against Rogers on short notice, when he’s scheduled to box soon, laughable when you think of it, they couldn’t have thought that he was just gonna walk straight through him after getting KO’d in his last fight…
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe in the Affliction ring because it’s huge but in a ring you can get trapped easier because the escape angles are narrower.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still cannot believe that happened.I am a big Arlovski fan,but he just does not have it anymore.He looked so good against Fedor,all to get destroyed by Rogers,I can’t believe I just typed that.
What has happened to all of the former greats,they are starting to drop like flies
by scott on Jun 7, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does not matter what he is fighting in ,if you can not take a punch,you can not take a punch,so unless he becomes Machida over the next few months ,he is done
by scott on Jun 7, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know but a ring still favors technical standup fighters, because you can lean against the ring ropes and get away, in an octagon it just stops.. An Octagon is pretty much made for Wrestlers to get takedowns against the fence
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. People will disagree with me on this, but I’m convinced he’s already showing the results of accumulated damage. When you get knocked out really badly it can actually take a long long time to fully recover. I mean against Fedor, his head not only ate a brick to the chin but he smashed his head off the canvas.
Just look at all his losses, nearly all KOs. He also got dropped with a jab while sparring recently.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yes RoB, that’s true too. Both have advantages and disadvantages for strikers. I do reckon the corner of the ring is a worse place to get trapped though.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true,but he shows that he can not take the slightest blow,just like Chuck,so he will eventually get KO.That is what I like about the cage,is there is no where to go,No getting wrapped up in the ropes,no being able to dip and lean on the ropes
by scott on Jun 7, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is this thing called defense, Andrei has all the physical tools to be succesful which a guy like Chuck has not (old man can barely move on his legs).. to compare him to Chuck is not right, Andrei’s punches are much tighter than CHuck’s..
Don’t you worry scott, Andrei needs 6 months or something to rest and work on his defense.. It was a mental thing tonight that he needs to fix, he should never have fought tonight in the first place, don’t know if he needed quick money or what it is that made him take this fight? cause it was wayy to fast taking on a beast like Rogers with huge KO power after getting KO’d in your last fight.. He made the same mistake trying to get the title back right away from Sylvia after he lost it via TKO.. He needs a smarter guy to help him with his business, it just seems to be all over the place with him jumping from different organizations taking fights on short notice..
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barnett cracks me up. Im stoked for that fight
by enzo-enormous on Jun 6, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can everyone stop talking about how awesome Arlovski is and how he could have beaten Fedor?
Please. And he wants to box. Bad idea.
by scissorfight on Jun 6, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like Fedor said, AA just had a bad gameplan.
The gameplan for Fedor was almost perfect though.
Hopefully I still get to see a rematch. :)
by natas on Jun 7, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, the guy’s a Sambo champ and he does even use it anymore.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He actually looked a lot better against Fedor than he did against Grim
by Hypn0Toad on Jun 7, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree,Me and my broth-in-law where watching and i told him AA doesnt look like he is there to fight.
by SluggerCitySoldier on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to stop fighting in octagons, there’s a reason why K-1/Boxing is being contested in a ring, cause it’s better suited for technical standup fighters and it always gives them a place to go.. AA would still do great against Fedor if it’s a standup fight, it would be the same he would still control the fight with his reach..
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy $h!t. Clubber Lang just laid out Andrei 300 in 22 seconds.
Seriously, where does Andrei go from here? He’s like Chucky and Wandeco now, can’t take a punch anymore. It’s kind of sad.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you slow? Anyone would have dropped with those 2 punches from the Grim.
by natas on Jun 7, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, however the punch that set those up and rocked Arlovski didn’t appear to be a great punch. Easy for me to say of course.
by JTD on Jun 7, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I know but he clipped him with the left hook and that’s what hurt him. Watch it again dude. I’m not talking about the 3 punches when he was against the fence.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely disagree that Wandy cant take a punch. When your hit right on the button, it happens
by enzo-enormous on Jun 7, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also wonder the effects that all the cumulative damage someone like Wandy has sustained. And we only see a fraction of that damage.
by JTD on Jun 7, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah me too. I know as the fighters get older and the wear and tear builds up they get slower and get caught easier. But I’d like to see the results of a visual fields test (it tests your peripheral vision and detects blind spots and such). There’s also rumours Nogueira’s sight is deteriorating in one eye.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s always a chance to get scar tissue on the brain after seeing the light when you get knocked out, and next time the brain won’t take the same punch… Howard DAvis.Jr talked about that in an interview after the last Chuck fight
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know after too many concussions you have to stop…
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The brain also becomes looser in the skull and gets rattled around easier as the tissues around it break (can’t remember the term).
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well forgive my hyperbole but I think you know what I mean. It’s the same with Chuck.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im my honest opinion Arlovski needs to switch training camps, Roach who is great at boxing isn’t really helping out Arlovski much in terms of MMA or else Arlovski is focused on boxing too much. Hell I bet you Sherk could knock Arlovski out, just kidding on that one but you get my point. I don’t care how good AA was doing against Fedor the ending still would of been the same if not a sub in later rounds. Fedor will TKO Barnett as well, his only chance would be to catch Fedor in a submission but imo Fedor is one of the best on the ground in all of MMA. The way to beat Rogers is to take him down which Fedor or Barnett would not have a problem with.
by rydinlow on Jun 7, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. They’d make short work of him on the ground.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C’mon, Lawler, you should have pounded Shields to bits.
Lame…
by BigRedOne on Jun 7, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was shocked, Lawler just surrendered his neck.
by Hypn0T0ad on Jun 7, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who says you need to have decent striking when you got good BJJ like Shields or Maia
by rydinlow on Jun 7, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lawler just stuck his neck out and begged Shields to grab it. WTF?
by BigRedOne on Jun 7, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5.20am GMT here in the UK! I thinks me needs some zzzzzzzz’s
See u tomorrow guys.
by Ca$z on Jun 7, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say, that was a very good fight card. The UFC better look out cause Strikeforce knows how to put on a good show.
by Hypn0Toad on Jun 7, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it was a good night of the fights but the announcers/commentators are clueless and annoying as fuck!
shields needs to get in the ufc i’m not interested in seeing him fight cung le at all.
by AzCombat on Jun 7, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the second time that I have seen Strikeforce and probably the last. I can’t stand the production value and the announcers.
UFC has spoiled me to much. :P
by natas on Jun 7, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last time you’ll watch a Strikeforce event! Why? I thought it was a great night of fights, no?. Just mute it if the commentators bother you that much.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
natas, they’ve actually got better commentators than the UFC in the fact that they are not as biased as Rogan and Goldberg are, it’s painful to listen to Rogan and Goldberg trying to make certain picked UFC fighters from Dana and the boys to look good at all times even when it sounds crazy…
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
commentators shouldn’t be hired by the company at all, but it’s an easy way for Dana to make sure they’ve got control over everything…
by RoB on Jun 7, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that’s true, also back before they bought Pride they could only say fighting overseas or in Japan if they were refering to a Pride fight but Strikeforce mention the UFC and all the other orgs.
I do like Goldie and Rogan best though because of the Goldbergisms and the Rogan rants. They’re definitely the funniest.
by RobH86 on Jun 7, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or does Gus Jhonson…….need…….to……..
talk………a……….little………..slower Frank is the man, would love to see him alongside goldie & joe, he’s got real passion for the sport & knows what he’s talking about
by KRS on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, Lawler and Arlovski, way to show up. How long before Shields makes the jump?
by Mark on Jun 7, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good card but all of the upcoming ufc events r better
by Beast3000 on Jun 7, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing I kept my mouth shut at prediction time!
by Dana's a CrossDresser on Jun 7, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
such a shame to see all of Randleman’s physical prowess go to waste cus hes a shit fighter! I really thought he coul dcome good this time! FACK!
by Randy for Couture on Jun 7, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HEY, WHAT HAPPEN TO ARLOVSKI, KO ON THE FIRST
by MARIO MAYANS on Jun 8, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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