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Royce Gracie video calls steroid allegations 'ridiculous' for him - but not for Ken Shamrock

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but ken shamrock man come on!! hilarious

by butters on May 29, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Just man up. You used em’, so what. Move on. Don’t be a BJ Penn.

by The5thBeatle on May 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

lol, replacing the words “little cry baby b!tch” with Penn? What a F*ck’n Penn..

by O damn he got caught on May 29, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude seems genuine to me, i believe him…

by JIZZO on May 29, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well a lot of guys that Juice don’t look like they do so I’m not ruling it out; I couldn’t condemn him for it cause it’s Royce Gracie and its hard to picture a Gracie coming from a family like that, with so much pride/honor taking roids and trying to win a fight unfairly. With that said I wouldn’t put it past him either, his desire to stay relevant probably took over.

by O damn he got caught on May 29, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention, he was fighting Sakuraba – the Gracies’ nemesis.

by zulu9812 on May 29, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The California athletic commission doesn’t have the best reputation either…

by JIZZO on May 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I dont trust anything that Cali commision says. I dont really like Royce all that much…I was a die hard Sakuraba fan, dont tell my trainers who are really tight with Royce/royler and Helio lol….but I find it hard to believe that he juiced. if he was going to cheat and juice it would have been against Matt Hughes who is very powerful guy….why would he juice against a Japanese fighter? THey arent exactly known for their physical strength…unless your name is fujita!

by john on May 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

John i left you a message on the fedor barnett thread!!!!!! man up bitch!!!

by rich on May 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fujita’s an oversized can with a thick @ss skull

by O damn I got caught on May 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Royce looked huge for that fight. He would have known he was getting tested after the Hughes fight and wouldn’t have risked it versus a much lower profile fight.

I’m not saying it was right, but I understand. He was the best in the world and he was completely dominated by Hughes. That’s gotta be a kick to the ego and easy to slip into the world of performance enhancement. No one is above it.

by Leno on May 29, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

man the levels he was found to have in his systme are way too high. you cannot have those levels of an anabolic steroid in your systme and not see massive muscle growth its impossible. look at all roid users who were caught they developed a small amount of muscle gains. royce didnt have any. ronnie coleman doesnt have that much shit in his systme.
csac is wrong royce was clean haters give it up

by the heat on May 29, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ didn’t test positive for steriods.

by ZzFDKzZ on May 29, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the point was that Penn never takes responsibility for anything.

by prokstar on May 29, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Including all the roids he took, look how beastly ripped he is.

by O damn he got caught on May 29, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

by naturalshadow on May 30, 2009 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing BJ tested positive for is “whiney little bitch.”

by BigRedOne on May 29, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, i like the way he say: Ken Shamrock

by Sean sherk on May 29, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Ken Shamrock has bitch tits now.

by erba on May 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

For a guy who lifts weights man what a scrawner, I think I have more muscles in one of my legs than this guy has in his whole body. He does have a point shamrock does look roided out, I was wondering what took them so long to catch him.

by nathan on May 29, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

You can inject clean pee into your bladde via cathater or syringe…

by KR1LR on Jun 28, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Don’t be a BJ Penn?” Dude no way has BJ ever been on the juice.

by mak on May 29, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Stfu you little Penn! haha, yea I like it, just testing it out man..

by O damn he got caught on May 29, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL.

by Jeremyjackson on May 29, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think people forget that roids are not exactly about giving you huge muscles, infact what they do is allow you to recover more quickly so you can build bigger muscles more easily. In the case of someone like Gracie it may not mean he’s ripped, but since your body takes longer to recover with age may just mean he’s able to train better to keep up with the younger guys longer.

Not that I’m saying he’s guilty – just that popping a few roids doesn’t make you Arnie overnight…

by Jimrod on May 29, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

not true they increase muscle fiber size even if you dont lift and if you do lift and royce does the will have significant effects. and considering the levels found to have been in his system i find it extremely hard to believe he took anything, only way i can explain it was csac labs are a joke

by the heat on May 29, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Royce is a little pu$$y, all Gracies are.

by Green Inferno on May 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Trying to make friends I see.

by Jeff on May 29, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the gracies have done more for mma than you could ever know. you dont know what youre talking about.

by BritishBulldog on May 29, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

srry gracie, results shown that you Did took it.. and another way to find out that you took it is you became skinny.. someone who’s natural don’t get skinny like that

by cliff on May 29, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

what the hell are you talking about?

by TheLastProdigiousRushingAxeMurderingEmperor on May 30, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got skinny? I must have missed the fight where he was huge.

by naturalshadow on May 30, 2009 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

stephan bonner also tested positive for steroids and he isnt exactly built like sherk…and he also still weighed in at 205, the same weight before and after he took roids…you dont have to be built like shamrock just because you take roids..

tim sylvia didnt look like brock lesnar when he tested positive…gracie cant use the argument of “look at me, im not built like shamrock therefore i didnt take anything”

neither does bonner jackass royce

by HellaHectic on May 29, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

royce gracie is the Man, screw the CSAC they have alreay been exposed as a joke

by dia mette on May 30, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

HellaHectic if you look at tim sylvia before and after the roids you can see the difference, and if someone of royce’s build and shape took roids, you’d know straight away. Csac dropped the ball on this 1.

by vinrex7 on May 30, 2009 3:40 AM EDT reply actions  

so what about bonner? that dude needs to get his money back for whatever the hell he took

by HellaHectic on May 30, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t need roids he is not that type of fighter who relies on his strength, he all about technique. I believe him! Shit he looks like one of my buddies on this video.

by Dickerson on May 30, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Nandrolone aids recovery from injury, not necessarily that he took it for increasing strength. Also the commission is used by the Olympic committee so I am trust them more then I trust the word of Gracie, the man who lives on fruit and protein shakes.

by Casual fan on May 30, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

guilty

by hddavidson on May 30, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He would be the poster child for what a “roider” WOULDN’T look like and it’s just hard to imagine that someone that is a true martial artist and therefore incredibly disciplined and probably principled could do it despite the fact that I’m sure his ego was bruised when he got dominated by Hughes. I say run that test again….

by sudnvictory on May 31, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

And mmamania.com has this on their site now from a story from 2007….wtf??

by sudnvictory on May 31, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

The Bible says in Proverbs 28:13, “He who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy.” I don’t know whom to believe; in an earlier era, I would have believed him but since last year we have seen baseball players outed by their trainers after they failed drug tests and even lied to Congress under oath that they never took drugs. If the not-gaining-weight argument is correct, then researchers and the California State Board should be approached to take it into consideration.

by Anil on Jun 21, 2009 6:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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