kos would win this won and hughes might fight the winner of fitch/p thiago in dec

Hughes should just retire already; he’s done, he’s never beating GSP, EVER and his only recourse is to lay n prey his opponents to a UD cause he has no other options.

so because you can not beat one guy it means you should retire.Well that means the entire LHW division needs to just fold up ,so does the MW,oh and after the GSP/Alves fight,the WW division should fold.Of course I am being sarcastic,but just because one guy has your number does not mean you should retire,there is still fights out there for him

Key word “fights” not a damn blanket party, sorry if I’m not interested in watching Hughes dry hump his way to another UD.

understandable,I do not think that is all he can do now.I believe Serra BJJ just locked Matt Hughes up so he could not get alot of shots off.But I see your point

To the fans it is frustrating to watch,but to the fighters they just want the win

So, This my theory.
This sport is so new in comparison to the other major sports right? So the jump in learning, or advancement of the skill involved is still happening pretty fast.
There are fighters today that were early UFC or mma fans and have been learning the sport as a complete sport, not just adding one aspect after years of competing in one or the other.
When I look back over just the last 5 or 6 years, I think of the huge leaps that have been made. Remember when most people could never imagine how guys like Liddell, Hughes and even Royce would become so beatable. It’s nuts (but not necessarily untrue) to see the comments that are made when mentioning guys like Hughes, and Trigg. Some of us may be fans but in our hearts, we know it may be time for a swan song.

I do think that the gaps will get tighter and eventually we will see slower gains over decades instead of 1-2 year periods.

So this is my test. If you transported guys like Jordan, Bird, Kareem, Pete Maravich and so on from thier best years in the NBA, and placed them in a game today, they would still be arguably some of the best on the floor. We can’t say that about too many MMA athletes just yet, but we’ll get there. With guys like, A.Silva, GSP and Fedor pushing the other fighters to up thier game.

Anyway, this was just my realy long way of saying that us much as we like some of these guys, I don’t know if they can relearn the sport to compete against guys that have grown up training to beat them. I’ll still cheer them on, but it ain’t the same.

as off topic as you can get: all aboard the shogun war wagon!!! been on it since day one and won’t quit! LHW Champ of 09 Mauricio SHOGUN Rua!!!

Maybe, but come on, this thread is about Hughes and Trigg, and in that respect it is on topic.
Truth is, I didn’t have a whole lot to say about either of these guys fighting, so I took the opportunity to rant a little bit.

yup.

How the hell do you find Kos boring?

because he is overrated ,that is how

Yea I been pretty damn entertained with his stand up battle against Alves and his KO on Zenko, Kos’s fight with Dustin Hazelette was tight too; his mauling of Diego Sanchez was also a decent fight.

Kos is boring Dsmith. He’s getting better, I was almost a fan for a half second, but he’s just not likable!

The guy takes on anybody, any time, short notice it don’t matter, gotta respect that. He’s a real fighter for sure. Gained a lot of respect for Kos in 08.

The only thing I am give him credit for is willing to step in and fight on short notice,besides that his only claim to fame is beating a sick Diego

I do respect the fact that he wants to fight every month and will fight anyone!
you guys may read this comment by midnight

Add to that scott, the TKO stoppage of surging submission machine Hazelett (who was 7-1 in his last 8 then), nearly killing Lytle, first to beat Diego, lasted the distance with GSP and Alves, and a spectacular KO to top it off. Hes one of the most improved fighters in recent years, always game for a fight, and leaves it all in the Octagon every time.

I wasn’t that big a fan before his GSP loss, but ’08 definitly put me on the Kos “Warwagon”. Dude is a real fighter.

Kos knocks out Trigg standing and brutalizes Hughes at his own game GNP I think.

And I’m one of the biggest Hughes fans here.

Exactly. I don’t see how Kos mauled Diego in any way.

Kos will rip through either one…

Hughes and Trigg are boring. Kos used to be boring, but as stated above, since his fight with GSP he has been exciting.

I still think he’s a douche, but he’s sure earned my respect as a fighter.

Have a great weekend, Maniacs!

See you on Monday!

Yeb, boring as f$#k.

I iwll be fair, he isnt boring….but I just cant stand him. so unless he is getting beat up, I am bored by Koschek fights! I think he is very over rated, skill wise. HIs stand up is one of the most over rated in the sport. His weaknesses are masked by his wrestling and tremendous wrestling.

His standup is overrated but he gets away with it most of the time because most of the guys that tries to stand and bang in the UFC are even worse… Kos is fast and explosive that’s why people thinks his standup is good.. It’s actually the same thing with Rashad he’s fast and explosive but his technique is not the best, Lyoto is a real technical striker and he made Rashad pay when he opened himself up…

heY RoB I remember u saying before the rashad/lyoto fight that u think that lyoto isn´t a fighter… so u changed u mind or what??

So true.

Machida>Everyone

I didn’t know it was possible to go undefeated in the most competitive and prestigious weigh class in the world.
It’s even more awesome that he will remain undefeated for a long time. :O

I just got a message from Jeff (probably one of the smartest maniacs who almost always make sense). He was commenting on my rant this morning about all the younger guys with nothing to say just bashing (I’ll post it again). He came up with a great idea (that will never happen). mmamania.com as an 18+ site!

Here’s what I wrote:
you know what I was thinking guys, now that school is out, I may have to start just reading articles.
alpha, ojr,VM, NNR, John and Jeff (to name a few) are adults who I don’t always see eye to eye with, but they act like adults (John is a stretch). You can tell which guys are teens or jusr trolls. Alpha and I (or Rob and I) don’t usually agree, but they always make good points and back them up, and usually leave me seeing their side (agree or not). But when the only comeback is "you’re a douche" or "who cares what you make" when the point is obviously missed, it gets aggravating! I’m here to share my opinions and thoughts,I’m not always right, but am one of the few guys that have been interested in mma since the 1990’s, has trained and isn’t afraid to put himself out there (right or wrong). Some of you "younger guys" need to take lessons from some of the "experienced guys" and realize your opinion isn’t gold, everyone has different opinions and if you go into a comment section with an open mind, you may actually leave learning a thing or two! Thats my rant for today! Feel free to bash me now!

You’re a douche! Who cares what you make!

;-)

Haha, good stuff kev.

lol, I was laughing too! It wasn’t about me, but only the adults got it! Well, most of them!

I think Kos will Definitely lose any fight that he’s in. I mean, look at his hair! It’s ridiculous. Plus Trigg has got the necklace thing going. That has worked really well in the past. Hughes used to be really one dimensional, but has recently cut it down a bit, 35% less dimension. While that is a totally unorthodox strategy, it seemed to work against Serra.

If you disagree with any of this, it’s probably because you’re a douche, so you better get that checked.

great post! necklaces and hair, I love it. Kinda like women (not all, no offense) picking final 4 teams based on mascots!

alright guys, off to see Joe Rogan, will have a report later! Have a great weekend.
Go Red Sox!

Kevin,

I come for one reason: to gain insight I might have missed before it comes time to lay down money. I appreciate unbiased analytical prediction the most, but that’s rare. Being right about fight pic’s matters more than anything else to me. I wish we had a percentage next to our names. I don’t have time to write all day like some guys, but I’m right about my picks and my reasoning can be kept to a few sentences. The insults are silly, but more than that, I hate the guys who insult the younger guys for not supporting an obscure fighter. You know, “you must not follow MMA.” These same guys are wrong half the time with there predictoins, but they know what breakfast cereal a fighter prefers, what color underwear he has on, etc. I don’t care how fanatical people are or how much they follow news. I like to hear form people who understand the mechanics of fighting and don’t bully guys for being nubes. It’s as rediculous as guys who just call people douches and idiots all the time. That’s my rant.

how is matt going to beat kos. there wrestling would cancel out and kos has a huge power advantage

what? Matt hughes is way stonger than Kos ,so what are you talking about.That is what got Matt Hughes to where he is today ,by being stronger than everybody else in the division

Punching power, not the ability to lift a horse with one hand and shoe it with the other.

I figured that out after I had typed it,but his strength will be what gives him the advantage when it goes to the ground

Hughes has the ability to cook a country breakfast with one hand and heft a bale of hay with the other… all while balanced on a bible with his head jammed firmly up his ass.

Kos is so much faster that he’s gonna run right through him, speed and explosiveness is better than just being big and strong..

scott everyone cleared up that i was talking about punching power if you actually read i said wrestling cancels out …. and than i mention power so why would i be talking about there wrestling again

I will support Matt Hughes through anything, and have always been a huge fan of his since he got he in MMA. But Kos will wreck him. We all know Hughes doesn’t do well off his back. He has good defense (see the GSP 3 fight, GSP had him mounted and couldn’t break his grip to posture up) but not much offense or sweeping ability. I think Kos would be able to beat up standing (and be 100x more aggressive than Serra in that department) and when Hughes gets in close for a clinch takedown, Kos would simply reverse and put Hughes on his back, and pound him out. Kos wins a decision.

LOL.