UFC Quick Quote: Dana White thinks Fedor Emelianenko will eventually end up in the UFC
by Jesse Holland on May 29, 2009 12:16 AM EDT
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"I would never cross-promote. Regarding Fedor, he either wants to come over and fight here or he doesn’t. If he came over and wanted to fight I’d do a deal with him in a minute. You know we’ve been chasing him since we bought Pride. In my opinion, I think it’s going to happen. He’d be crazy not to. I mean, why not? He’ll come over here and make a bunch of money and maybe even win the title and go down in history as the greatest heavyweight ever. The problem is it's one thing for everyone to say it, I mean I can say, "Brock is the greatest heavyweight ever" but they have got to fight. It’s the only way to find out. We can argue about it all day but in the end you just have got to get out there and fight."
-- UFC President Dana White tells EdgeBoston.com that he envisions Fedor Emelianenko becoming a possible addition to his heavyweight division. White and Co. worked hard to bring the Russian on board after the collapse of Pride FC; however, talks broke down when the parties could not agree on an exclusive fight contract. It would be a minor miracle if Emelianenko ever signed with the UFC … he and his camp appear to mix like water and oil when it comes to working with UFC execs. Stranger things have happened, however. In the meantime, Emelianenko is penciled in to fight former UFC heavyweight champion Josh Barnett this August in the third -- and perhaps last event held by Affliction MMA.
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fedor needs to get his head out of his ass and fire his ridiculous managers. only then can a deal be reached with the UFC and he can finally prove himself.
by prophet on May 29, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Fedor coming to the UFC story will never end until he retires or actually comes to the UFC.
by c-war on May 29, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. It’s just a simple question of yes or no. Someone or somethin’s gotta somehow speed up Fedor’s thinkin’ process so he could make up his own daym mind and give up combat sambo for a while.
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on May 29, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I’m not mistaken, Fedor only has the Barnett fight left on his current contract, so Dana has an opportunity soon to make this happen. I would bet if he doesn’t sign him this time around and Fedor signs with someone else, it may never happen!
p.s. I too would love to see Fedor cut to 205, but I doubt it ever happens!
by ---Caesar--- on May 29, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Fedor’s contract will expire after he fights Barnett, so Dana will get his 10th crack at trying to sign the best fighter to have ever lived around August or September. Dana needs to stop trying to control this man….stop insulting him, his Managers and the russian people, and maybe they can get a deal done. Personally I dont really care anymore. Fedor is so much better then every other Heavyweight, that any fight he takes will be a mismatch regardless of what Organization it happens in. Whether its in the UFC, Afflictin, Strikeforce, or DREAM…he iwll make all his opponents look like they dont belong anyway….so whats the big deal?
Fedor oculd go his whole career without ever stepping foot inside the octagon, and he will still go down as the best of all time so he might as well do what he wants. The UFC and Fedor DONT NEED each other at all. BOth will be HIGHLY successful without each other. But I do think UFC needs Fedor more then fedor needs the UFC.
What does Fedor have to gain by fighting in the uFC? NOt a damn thing! He is already considered the best fighter EVER and EASILY the best current HW and the best HW fighter ever to try his hand at mma. HOw much bigger can he get by signing with the UFC? Dudes got Zillions of fans in Countries like China and korea who dont even know who Chuck Liddell is….
Stop asking for Fedor to fight at 205 lbs. Just stupid talk! If Heavyweights dont have the chin to deal with Fedor, how are LHW’s going to deal with his power? Dont say Speed, because he is probably as fast as any LHW in the world!
by john on May 29, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, have you ever stopped to think, what if Fedor comes to the UFC and loses? I know you love fedor and all but MMA is not as predictable as you think when talking about Fedor.
by RedDog on May 29, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who in the UFC would beat him?
I am still laughing at the first comment “only then can a deal be reached with the UFC and he can finally prove himself”. Yeah, Fedor has yet to prove himself because he hasn’t beaten Cheick Kongo in the octagon. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on May 29, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
REDOG:
A) I highly DOUBT that TODAY anyone on the UFC Roster will upset FEDOR!!!!
B) Even if Fedor comes to the UFC and loses a single fight. I honestly believe that he has accomplished so much as a heavyweight and is head and shouulders above every other heavyweight that it would take at lest 2 losses in a row for Fedor to lose his #1 ranking as a heavyweight and there is a better chance of me hitting tonights 180 million dollar lottery then that happening. If he loses a fight he should drop a spot or 2 in p4p rankings but it will take more then 1 loss to drop out of the top spot in every single person alive’s Heavyweight rankings!
Upsets do occur all the time in mma, but Fedor is once in a lifetime athlete on par with Greatness like Tiger, Jordan, Gretzky, Ali. THese were all amazing athletes but what seperated themselves from all the other great athletes was that THEY ALWAYS FOUND A WAY TO WIN. That is what makes Fedor so special. If he just blew through everyone without ever being tested, then I would admit that he could be upset….but the guy has been through the fire, and always came away with the win. He has NEVER lost a single round in over 30 fights! COME ON!
He has faced with adversity and just got pissed and ended up finishing his opponent in the same round:
-Fujita ROCKED HIM BAD, and made him do the fish Dance. what does Fedor do? Stays cool as a fan, regains his composure and submits Fujita in the same round with a rear naked choke.
-Arlovski was picking him apart (although not as many of his shots landed as many of you seem to think). What does fedor do? ROCKS ANDRE"S FOCKING WORLD and making Arlovski the National spokesman for Tylenol PM!!!! LMAO
-He went 20 minutes in a grueling WAR with Cro cop in his Prime and out struck cro cop at his own game.
-He made NOgueira, the best HW submission artist mma had ever seen look like a white belt when NOg was in his Prime.
-He was BRUTALLY SUPLEXED on the back of his head/Neck by Randleman. What did he do? He stayed calm, regained his composure (that he never actually lost) and submitted Randleman with a kimura in the same round.
What more do you FOCKING HATERS want? He is about to DESTROY Josh Barnett who would be the favorite RIGHT NOW against any freaking fighter on the UFC’s Heavyweight Roster. Stop your bitching, and enjoy a MEGA FIGHT. YOU guys have the privilege of witnessing gREATNESS IN his PRIME! Not to mention there is NO ONE CLASSIER yet as DESTRUCTIVE in the sport. What more do you ingrates want?
by john on May 29, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am skeptical that Fedor WILL go down in history as the best heavyweight if he never fights in the UFC. The UFC is the premier organization for mma, by far and away. 20-30 years from now, people may not care to even remember Fedor.
Example: In an interview, Kareem Abdul Jabar was asked who was the best player he had ever seen, and he said it was “The Goat” Earl Manigault. To be honest I hardly know a damn thing about the guy, except he was supposedly the best street player in New York or anywhere else. That is all I know about him. However, I can sure tell you a lot about Michael Jordan.
by naturalshadow on May 29, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve seen many great fighters come from other organizations come to the UFC and not done nearly as well as expected. I simply think to be considered the best HW Fedor need to compete in the UFC (which doesn’t have the most amazing selection of heavy weights, but Lesnar, Carwin, Congo, maybe even old Couture would be a good test). To be the best you’ve got to beat the best. One thing Dana White said was true, you can argue this until you’re blue in the face and never know until it really happens.
by JS on May 29, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Dana was only trying to prove a point, but he actually said “I can say Brock is the Greatest HW ever.” LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bottom line, Fedor doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone. Forget what Dana and the UFC brass says. Ask ANY fighter who the best HW is… For that matter, ask any fan who actaully follows international mma and not just the UFC. Fedor would completely tool everyone in the UFC’s HW division.
by Cole on May 29, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
prophet, maybe you should pull your head out. a ufc contract is pretty much a slavery contract. you have to pretty much let them own you to fight there. dana needs to quit being such a control freak. what we need is a fighters union. stay true to yourself, fedor, and don’t sign your life away because of dana douchebag white. also what do you mean by “finally prove himself.” if you don’t think fedor has proven himself you don’t know much about mma.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on May 29, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you think that Fedor has proved himself then you dont know much about MMA, YOU ARE NOT A TRUE MMA FAN, you like the ultimate fighter tv show etc etc..
See how that works? Its just an inane statemnt with no meaning or weight behind it. Fedor in UFC or cant claim #1
by PanicZoo on May 29, 2009 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lay off the drugs bro Fedor is the #1 HW and has been for the last what 5 or is it 6 years. Not a single fighter in the world every single last fighter in the UFC will name any other HW as #1 only Fedor always Fedor. So no one cares about your stupid lil opinion because when it comes to Fedor being #1 its not a matter of opinion anymore that question has been more then settled.
Anyways Dana white might be right unless Affliction sticks around for a while or Strikeforce steps it up even more then Fedor might end up in the UFC, of course he could retire as the Best MMA fighter and HW fighter in the world, and i wont even go into the P4P arguement mainly because thats just retarded.
by Khaos_Warrior on May 29, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He sure can claim number 1. Fedor has beaten more UFC champs than anyone. Brock and Mir are the number 1 guys in UFC, Fedor does not need to beat either of them to be the best. I would like to see him fight Couture though (but that won’t prove anything because he is past his prime now).
by IrishMike on May 29, 2009 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s not hard to hold on to the number 1 heavyweight title for 5 years when you only fight one real fighter per year.
by RedDog on May 29, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, for every Arlovski on his resume, there is also a HMC.
by naturalshadow on May 30, 2009 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have to admit thats a pretty good picture of fedor haha. but get this dude in the ufc already your hw roster is so empty without having the number one p4p fighter in it
by Jared on May 29, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so he can prove himself?? what have u been smoking dude, fedor does not need to prove himself.. he has done it time and time again,
he has Ko AA, Knocked 7 shades of shit outta Sylvia then subbed him and now he got barnett who he will also more than likely destroy him,
so that 3 former UFC title holders in the last yr he has beaten.
he has beat a who is who of MMA, and if people like brock wanna fight him they should do it on fedor’s terms not the UFC’s
and only one in UFC imo who wud give him a decent fight would be mir,
by CoNr on May 29, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget that he owns wins over Nog as well who was UFC champ!
by ViolentMike on May 29, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
y is brock the greatest heaveyweight ever is it cos he’s had 3 wins in his career?
by ruanfiy on May 29, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, didn’t have like a 100 fihts in the WWF? LOL
by ViolentMike on May 29, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wat the fuck? Seriously? What does he have to prove? He’s destroyed everyone in his path with the exception of the illegal elbow from TK. He fought in the big time in Pride when it was THE best MMA event there. Now that pride went under (due to yakuza ties, not the UFC’s doing) the UFC is trying to rewrite history in an orwellian fashion. Awesome. Fuck you, fuck people like you and fuck Dana White.
by Ryann Von Doom on May 30, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy in the background kinda looks like Igor V.
by NameNotRequired on May 29, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
keep talkn dana like you would ever bend your riduculous expectations. he just wants people to think he really wants fedor so he doesnt get criticized for having a weak heavweight division
by BigSmoke on May 29, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would he bend? After Barnett, what’s out there for Fedor? He’ll end up fighting (and dominating) in the UFC and will be the best HW ever…he already is. I don’t think too many people can deny there are more fights I’d rather see for Fedor at LHW
Machida
Anderson Silva
Rampage
need I go on?
Do any other professional sports teams bend the rules? If they did, every super star from the U.S. would play in the WBC, they don’t because their contracts don’t let them. We’ve been over this many times.
by kevin on May 29, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Kevin and I’ve told you you’re dead wrong about the exclusiveness of contracts in other pro sports. Dustin Pedroia(last years MVP), Derek Jeter, David Wright, Chipper Jones, Jake Peavy, Roy Oswalt all played in the WBC. Those guys aren’t super stars? Also look at the US Olympic basketball team. They all have the biggest names in the sport. You keep saying other sports are the same way, but it’s blatantly obvious that they just aren’t! If Fedor wants to do Sambo for national pride, then let him. ALL OTHER MAJOR SPORTS DO.
by Diceman on May 29, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL contracts have some sort of exclusions. I’m a huge sox fan, but pedroia’s first contract (I doubt) had too many exclusions. Whether it be not allowed to ride a motorcycle or not allowed to ski, they all have the in there. If (and it’s a big IF) Fedor went to Sambo, threw an opponent and landed wrong, broke a bone and was out for ant lenghth of time, it would cost the UFC money. I do understand your point, but anyone with half a brain would get the UFC’s point too. They need to meet somewhere in the middle. Dana is willing to pay, but not willing to sign all the shitty fighters that Fedor trains with (we saw how good little Fedor did last affliction).
by kevin on May 29, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, other sports have clauses in their contracts preventing them from riding motorcycles and other brain dead activities so they don’t pull a Frank Mir, but as far as preventing them from taking part in things like the WBC, FIBA, and Olympics that are sources of national pride, they just don’t exclude that. That’s what Dana is trying to take away from Fedor. You keep saying other sports do the same thing, but they don’t, plain and simple. Motorcycle clauses and the like are not the same, and you’re comparing apples and oranges and trying to say it’s the same. Surely there must be other issues, because if the only thing stopping this deal is Sambo, then the UFC is truly pathetic.
by Diceman on May 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir, Nogueira, Couture, Lesner, Carwin, Kongo, Velasques, Gonzaga, Dos santos, Hearring.
That’s not a weak division. Fedor’s crazy not to come to the UFC. I don’t see any good
reason why he doesn’t.
by broncos12405@yahoo.com on May 29, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mir-overratted
coulture-old
nog- already did that in his prime
lesnar-the only fight in the ufc but still a rookie
carwin-too slow gonzaga would beat him 7 out of 10 fights
kongo-are you joking?
velasques-has not fought anyone has alot to pove still a rookie
gonzaga-might give him a fight for 2 rounds
dos santos-again remeber houston, this guy has alot to prove still
herring- already done that
by roy on May 29, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
excuses excuses. does Fedor pay you?
broncos has a good point, there are some good fights there. an oportunity is coming up and I hope White can capitlaize on it. is there anything left for Fedor to do where he is? — time to move on, to the UFC that is.
by JS on May 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roy, you don’t seem to get it. All you Pride nostalgia clowns gave Gonzaga and Kongo no chance against Cro cop and he got owned.
Just cuz you believe your delusions about Fedors infallibility doesnt make them true, rather than hear you state the outcomes of these fights lets just see the fights instead.
As a fan of his you should want to see him fight these guys so why the resistance? I know deep down that you Fedor lovers are shit scared that he will get humiliated like Cro Cop did and then i get to gloat and chuckle at your “god”.
by paniczoo on May 30, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what he is asking is not rediculous ,unlike Fedor’s managers.Build a stadium in Russia,sign all of the Red Devil camp,co promote with M-1.To me the last one is just spitting in the UFC’s face ,after all the UFC has done for this sport ,and they think because they have Fedor they get to jump on UFC’s back,hell no!
by scott on May 29, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least D White is not insulting Fedor anymore and saying he’s not even in the top 5 heavyweights.. sounds like he’s acting more rational and eating a little crow since Fedor KO’d Silvia then Arlovski.
by DAVE A on May 29, 2009 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sad thing is there is this dark horse in the situation named frank mir who happens to own a victory over brock.. i am a fan of brock but this talk of fedor vs brock is outrageous wait til july 12th
by randy murders on May 29, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has 1 loss and it was to Tsuyoshi Kohsaka, not Mir lol.
by IrishMike on May 29, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that “loss” was a cut from a grazing elbow (missed punch) 17 seconds into the fight, Fedor was not dazed and could happily have fought on, and would so in most UFC matches – I’d consider that a no contest – he also destroyed the guy in the rematch…
by Jimrod on May 29, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On top of that, elbows were illegal in the 1 day tournament. Due to the cut he could not continue and it would have been ruled a No Contest. HOWEVER, it was a tourny and 1 figter must move on, and Fedor couldn’t due to cut. He later KO’d that fool anyways.
by ViolentMike on May 29, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you all completely missed the point of what randy was trying to say. He was saying that the talk of Fedor vs. Brock for the UFC HW belt is premature because Brock still has to fight Mir, not that Mir is the guy that gave Fedor his one loss.
by GregC on May 29, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll believe it when I see it. I don’t think Fedor has much interest in joining the UFC at this point in his career. Dang, it would be awesome though.
by Jeremyjackson on May 29, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would give up my left nut to see fedor in the UFC
by Nor-Cal Mexican (formely phlicutioner) on May 29, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People all over the world would love to see Fedor in the UFC.
Would be the one great day in MMA history. If Fedor doesn´t agree to fight at the UFC he just going to frusted uncounted Fedor´s fan all around the world. Maybe he should consider what he fans and not he managers thinks about move to UFC. Dana cut him a deal. At least Fedor should say some thing why he doen´s want to fight in the UFC.
UFC is getting huge with the great idea on make events all over the planet. I hope that comes to Brazil soon. Can´t wait!
Peace
by ThiagO on May 29, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no dude fedor is making a stand at the ufc pretty much by NOT giving in to there stupid demands..
he wants good pay (not unreasonable)
and he doesn’t wanna be owned by a company for the rest of his life.. why the f*ck would you dude? that means that like titos in the current ufc game and probably NOT getting paid for it they could do the same to fedor.. they want his pride video rights which they DO NOT have fedor is in the right on this one and i personally wanna see him OUTSIDE the ufc sure i hate affliction and wanna see the fight with brock/mir/velasquez and everyone else but at the end of the day i wanna see fighters treated equally too..
besides right now werdum,barnett,arlovski,overeem all are out there for him to fight in other orgs..
by randy murders on May 29, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really Werdum,he gets put on that list .Overeem is probably going to end up in the UFC,after his hand heals and he defends his belt in Strikeforce,we all know he has already fought Arlovski,and probably does not really want to take the chance on a rematch,and Barnett is about to fight him,so who is left Rogers,basically there will be nobody left after he fights Barnett
by scott on May 29, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is werdum bad? he lost 1 fight? but really should have been the ufc number1 contender for awhile.. you underrate werdum a lot..
and a rematch with arlovski isn’t something fedor would pass on i think you give fedor a little bit less credit then he should get.. remember i am his number1 critic but the ufc needs him more then he needs them
by randy murders on May 29, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unreasonable?
$10,ooo? $1oo,ooo? $2oo,ooo? $5oo,ooo a fight?
whats the difference if you’re already known as the best?
not a flame… I just don’t know what ‘reasonable’ means.
how much would you ask for?
source?
by teterwin on May 29, 2009 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The main thing everyone is missing so far is his rights to compete in Sambo. All Dana has to do is let him rep Russia in Sambo and Fedor would sign. The cross promotion is not the problem. Dana says he has a chance to get hurt, give me a break. How many years has he competed and how many years has he NOT been hurt. Let him compete in Sambo and we will see him in the UFC. If not we will NEVER see him in the UFC.
by Bluepit on May 29, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really think it boils down to more than that. If the only point of contention was the Sambo stipulation a deal would have been reached long ago.
by Jeremyjackson on May 29, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would think so, but look at the original interviews of Fedor and his manager. He said it is an essential thing to represent Russia and Dana said no and he could get injured and lose his champ. Fedor himself said that is the main reason he couldn’t fight for the UFC. He has been dominating since 1997 in Sambo and why would he stop now. There is however things like bringing along fellow Red Devils with him, but I think that is part of the negotiation process. You have to ask for more than you want for room of negotiations.
by Bluepit on May 29, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think its the sambo thing. Other UFC fighters can do grappling matches so I think he would let Fedor do Sambo. Gonzaga is going to have a match at the NAGA I am competing at in June.
by IrishMike on May 29, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana Fedor is the best with or without the ufc
by Va Jay Jay on May 29, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Fedor, but how many people does he have to go through in the UFC to prove he’s the best? It’s not like he has another 10 years and alot of fights left in him. If I was him I wouldn’t fight after I hit 34, 35 max. that doesn’t leave him much fights and even if he won all of them, there will still be people who say “well, he didn’t fight xxxxx so he’s not the best” etc..
For the nay sayers nothing is enough, in my book he’s the greatest both in the sport and in personality.
by Alex on May 29, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the whole point is UFC is looked as the elite,to alot of common fans they do not even know the term,MMA,so how will it look down the road after he is gone and he never fought in the UFC,people will always have their doubts about how he would have handled being in the cage.What throws these added questions,probably unfairly,is how Cro Cop performed in the UFC,coming in to the UFC ,Cro Cop and Fedor was looked as the 2 top HW in the world,then Cro Cop chokes .Because of Cro Cop,Fedor’s legacy will always be questioned ,unless he joins UFC
by scott on May 29, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crocop did not come into the UFC as the #2 he came in as #3 Nog was till his loss to Mir #2 in the world.
by Khaos_Warrior on May 29, 2009 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHA BROCK THE GREATEST EVER!!!! THERE IS A GOOD JOKE!!! LOL DANA! YOU MOEON
by jord on May 29, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he’s the greatest ever… unless Mir beats him then he’s the greatest ever, then Dana will be repeating the Motorcycle accident story over and over to explain Vera and Pe De Pano. I’m hoping Brock wins for that reason, lol
by quidnunc on May 29, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That does not make him the greatest ever? wtf? Brock is the title holder but in no way is he anywhere near the greatest fighters of all time, he has much to prove.
by comeandgetapunchforyourface on May 29, 2009 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s a moeon? I’m not sure, but I have a feeling it types in all capitals.
by GregC on May 29, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a ridiculous statement since Mir already beat him. Mir still has potential to be regarded as the best if he can stay fit and get a good run going (best in the UFC that is, if Fedor doesn’t ever join), he’s very well rounded.
What I really want to see is someone punch Brock in the f%$*ing face!!! Not seen him have to deal with any hard shots yet, It’s not like he’s bloody Machida-like in his defence…
by Jimrod on May 29, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention lesnar only has 4 pro fights under his belt, he is far from the greatest ever
by pat on May 29, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was just saying that he can say anyone is the best, but they have to prove it… I hate all this bullshit about commercialized UFC, its the same product as ten years ago just more popular, which is whole point.
by O's on May 29, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has FOUGHT! Dana is a dumbass, Fedor has proven he is the best during the best days of the Heavyweights and even lately… there will always be someone he hasn’t fought who is “the [new] greatest”.
Brock = 3-1
Fedor = 31-1
FEDOR has proven he is the best in his prime and the prime of many other top HWs.
by Mike&Ike on May 29, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What brock is the greastest lol nope a.silva is fedor and brock would get spanked in the stand war silvas to slick 4 them
by king criminales on May 29, 2009 3:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
finally can Dana understand that fedor is NR.1
by Keyvan on May 29, 2009 5:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There he goes again. Mr. White eatin’ his own words. At first he says Fedor won’t be fighting for his promotion, then suddenly decides that Fedor could end up in the UFC after all.
But the bald guy has a point. If Fedor does step into the octagon, he can eventually shut [f**kin’] up the mouths of the disbelievers and doubtin’ Thomases around. Fedor needs to prove to us all that he is the undisputed, pound-for-pound kingpin of the MMA world.
The only fighters who I believe could take the last emperor out are Lyoto La-Cheetah, Shane Carwin, and of course, the HW posterboy, Brock f**kin’ Lesnar! Anderson could stand a chance. And I hope he meets Vitor somewhere down the road…
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on May 29, 2009 5:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is that there are some guys in the UFC that potentially could beat Fedor (Mir, Brock, Carwin, Couture), but beating those guys, other than Couture, does nothing to help his legacy. That just means he faught in the UFC. Fedor ruled the Heavys when there were a ton of Heavys in their prime. Silva has beaten up on a weak 185 div. Nog x2, Cro Cop, Arlovski, Sylvia, Randleman, Coleman, Goodrich, Fujita. He beat all those guys in their prime.
by IrishMike on May 29, 2009 7:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IrishMike, look at those names. Outside of Nog how impressive were any of those guys in there prime. Cro Cop: a dominant striker, but if you took him down he was toast. Arlovski: a glass chin with decent knockout power, good submissions that he never used and was always way overrated. Sylvia: lost to almost everyone he should have like arlovski, Mir, Couture, Fedor. Randleman: never that great, exposed early in his career by Randy. Coleman: read what I said about Randleman, great wrestler who dominated undersized fighters till more technically sound fighters kicked his ass. Goodrich: frankly Gary Goodrich was only considered elite at one point because there was a shallow talent pool, lost all the fights he should have. Fujita: had a good career but it wasnt a career making fight for fedor. The fact is in my opinion you have to dominate in the best orginazations possible to be considered the best ever. Pride was a great organization but the fact is how many times can Fedor be tested by Andre, Tim, and Josh. Who are they gonna bring in next? Roy Nelson. The fact is outside of Barnett, the other best fighters in the heavyweight division belong to the UFC (and no I dont consider Arlovski or Sylvia elite anymore). Im not saying Fedor wouldnt be the best if he didnt come to the UFC, but im sick of people saying it wouldnt be a step up in consistent competition because definetly think it would be, just my opinion.
by Dave on May 29, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You bring up some interesting points. You can point out the weakness’ in that list of guys all you want, but if not Fedor then who would you have as the number 1 ever? Anderson Silva? Couture? Nog? Gracie? Yes after this next fight he will not have anyone outside of the UFC to fight, but he does not need to fight ever again and he will be the best ever. His resume, as questionable as it may be, is far better than anyone elses. IMO though I really think Brock/Carwin could have a shot at beating him, just because of sheer size/strength. He would wipe the floor with everyone else in the UFC though.
by Mike on May 29, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Fedor to stay OUT of the UFC. He is allready the most legendary mma fighter ever and he doesnt need to prove anything more by becoming a slave to the UFC.
by Green Inferno on May 29, 2009 7:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who needs him.i can care less if fedor fights in the ufc
by hddavidson on May 29, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This thread is hilarious. Fedor without a doubt is the best heavyweight, period. He’s also #1 or at worse #2 P4P the best fighter in the world. I don’t know how Brock even gets mentioned in the same sentence as Fedor. I’d love to see them fight, but Brock would get his ass handed to him.
The UFC HW division is their weakest division. Other than watching Lesnar, because he’s freakishly huge, no one cares. Although Affliction sucks as a promotion, for now they have the best HWs. Dana needs to quit trying to own the fighters and deliver what the fans want. If Dana’s such a great guy, and being so reasonable, how come he seems to have issues with almost ever fighter. I don’t think you get much more of a stand up guy than Couture, and look at the shit they pulled with him.
I agree the UFC needs Fedor more than Fedor needs them. People who follow fighting have no question as to whether Fedor is the best or not.
by Jbyrd on May 29, 2009 7:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No they have Fedor and Barnett. Arlovski and Sylvia are not elite. Other than that the UFC has a way better and larger crop of heavyweights top to bottom. Thats what happens when you work for a company that only has like 5 heavyweights on the payroll.
by Dave on May 29, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same story over and over…….. JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN :-)
by Rilly on May 29, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok Fedor does have an amazing record and he has beat former UFC champions…but they are FORMER champions for a reason…because they were not good enough for the UFC any more! None of the them left as the UFC cham they just never got new contracts because the UFC didnt want them any more. Iam a brit so I will put this in to football terms (or Soccer).. The english premier league is the best league in the world and Christian Ronaldo is the best player in the world who has proven himself because he plays in the premier league..If he played his soccer in the american league he couldnt be considered the best in the world just because they are some players in the league who used to play in the prem like Beckham.. So Fedor really does have to go to the biggest and best organisation to be considered the THE best….
by Robbo on May 29, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the time Fedor gets to the UFC he will be years past his prime and probably lose which will suck.
by Mc on May 29, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Dana, the #1 fighter in the world doesn’t have to fight the #6-#20 guys in the world to be the “Best HW ever.” The #6 guy needs to fight him.
P.S. Don’t ever mention Brock and “the best HW ever” in the same breath again!!!!!
by introvert on May 29, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While I believe the #3 through #10 spots belong to the UFC (witht the exception of arlovski at around 7 or 8) i do agree that dana is an idiot for using Brock as his example. Thats the worst metaphore ever lol
by Dave on May 29, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know right Dana is a joke just cause Fedor dosn’t have UFC stamped on his forehead dosn’t mean everyone in the world don’t know he is not the best.
UFC really needs to do something with there HW divsion and fast.
by Wanderlei Fan on May 29, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar can take Fedor. Fedor’s days are numbered. Arlovski buckled him twice. He’snot invincable. I’d put a thousand bucks on Lesnar to pound Fedor into dust. It’s not Whites fault that Fedor won’t come over to the UFC. Also, if he’s the best in the world, why does he remain in a joke of a division where the talent is paper thin, when he could easily make 205 and fight guys like Machida or A. Silva. Who cares who the best heavyweight is. The crown jewel of MMA is the 205 belt.
by Josh Hauck on May 29, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UFC needs a grat fighter in the heavyweight division an Fedor is that fighter, lets hope we see him fight someday in the UFC and kick the butt to all the heavyweights in the UFC
by MARIO MAYANS on May 29, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is rich Franklin really going to be in Kankakee IL. for the fire fighter fights at the fair grounds? I heard it was a hoax. Please let me Know I have 3rd row tickets.
by carla on May 29, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Rich Franklin realy going to be in Kankakee on Sat. for the mma fight at the fair grounds. I heard it is a hoax. I have 3rd row tickets.
by carla on May 29, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor ruled the heavyweights in an org built on hw. The UFC isn’t the be-all-and-end-all of MMA, if that were true, they’d already have the best ever (Fedor).
I’m happy that Fedor’s national pride, and desire to compete for his nation, trump the need to shut dana up. Dana shuts himself up, when he’s proven wrong (often)
We can already see Dana softening his talk. Why? He’s rightly getting ridiculed for mocking the best.
by clumsyninja on May 29, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe what I just heard. Brock Lesnar is good, and with time probably will be great. I can’t believe it said that Lesnar is great. Fedor is great, and time has told it. I haven’t seen him fight much, but the two fights that I have seen have been outstanding for him. Anywase, I would love to see him in UFC and that will tell everything.
by E. Fairway on May 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will eventually lose, exspecially if he joins the UFC. Hopefully it’s not to someone like Kongo.. He will still go down as the best heavyweight that has ever lived.
by Ray Flaherty on May 29, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man Fedor doesn’t need the UFC to prove anything. I’d love to see him in the UFC but he’ll do just fine where ever he goes.
by Ognitinoc on May 29, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedo is a Douchebag, giving Fedor a non exclusive deal and allowing him in sambo matches aint a hard thing to do
by Over77 on May 30, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana White is a Douchebag, giving Fedor a non exclusive deal and allowing him in sambo matches aint a hard thing to do
by Over77 on May 30, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will go down as the greatest heavyweight ever and quite possibly the greatest mma fighter ever, UFC OR NOT. Also Fedor is getting older and if he comes to the ufc he could loose a fight he might have not lost 2 years ago just because hes constantly getting older to that point where most fighters start seeing some looses on their record. However there should be no doubt that Fedor is the Greatest heavyweight ever, if you listen to the way he talks about mma its like a chess game to him, mentally he is way above everyone else, and physcially he knows his body better than any other fighter.
by MMAGTR on May 30, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so dana wants fedor to prove he’s the best in the world by fighting brock who’s record is what, 2-1?
by AJ on May 31, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor doesn’t have to come to the heavyweight division of the ufc to prove himself. it’s the other way around. the heavyweight division of the ufc has to come to fedor to prove themselves.
by Jonathan Zungre on May 31, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s just a matter of time before Fedor ends up in the UFC. The UFC is doing just fine without him although adding him would certainly be a huge plus. Jonathan….you put it well. Fedor doesn’t need to prove himself but most of us would still like to see him fight in the UFC and you gotta believe that a guy who is that good has to be thinking about the competition he hasn’t faced yet.
by sudnvictory on Jun 1, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jajaj us gringos ufc no saben b¿nada de mma fedor es el mejor de todos los tiempo muy lejos de anderson overrated silva pffffffffffffff, gsp tko serrapffffffffffff, y de cualquier otro luchador que este en la ufc, si no me creen preguntele a el mismo gsp, o a vera, o a couture, o a silvia, o a bj penn etc, si ellos lo piensan, o creen que saben mas que ellos obviamente esos qiue creen que el tiene algo qiue provar nunca se han subido a un ring
by ricardo on Jun 11, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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