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UFC Quick Quote: Mark Coleman matches up with Lyoto Machida 'perfectly'

"I’ve been training hard with [Ernest "The Cat" Miller] and I feel confident that I know what his weaknesses are, and how I can exploit them should we meet in the cage. In my past fights I relied on my wrestling too much and it showed. Now I know that the key is good cardio and a sound stand up game, which I have now. I don’t think Machida has faced a wrestler of my caliber before and I think stylistically I match up with him perfectly"

Mark Coleman — the "Godfather" of the ground and pound, collegiate national wrestling champion for Ohio State University and wrestler for the 1992 United States Olympic team — talks to Latest MMA News Now about being the man who can solve the riddle that is Lyoto Machida. Perhaps "The Hammer" has been pounding too many nails, because he still has to get past Stephan Bonnar at UFC 100 before he can face Machida -- or anyone else for that matter. Then again he does have "The Cat" in his corner...

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Lol Nice one Coleman!!!!

by phlicutioner on May 26, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! rsrsrsrsrsrsrsrs!!

by RedDog on May 26, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and by the way, Jesse, it’s THE Ohio State University :)

by RedDog on May 26, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a joke

by mikeybear on May 27, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

My wife went to Ohio State and I have never once given in to the “THE” part. I never will.

Mark Coleman shouldn’t be allowed to speak Machida’s name.

by Punch You in the Ovaries on May 27, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG I haven’t laughed this much in years, “the key is good cardio and a sound stand up game, which I have now”. LMAO, is he really being serious? This is the same Mark Coleman who was out on his feet after 3 minutes against an equally unfit Shogun. As for his standup, that’s an even bigger joke. There’s an old saying about old dogs and new tricks. Seriously Mark, you’ve taken too many head shots, only if the UFC’s entire LHW roster of contenders was to be wiped out in some freak accident would you even come close to getting a title shot, just never gonna happen in a trillion years. You’ve given us all a good laugh though.

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

why even post this crap coming out of the mouth of a senile old man! Mark “the shriveled up Vin Diesel” Coleman

by john on May 27, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe if he goes for a takedown before the rnd starts when Chida isn’t looking he can force Chida to use his own arm to brake his fall forcing said arm to brake….oh wait, he’s tried that already…its his pattened move

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol…Hey Mania. I LOVE that FOCKING picture! Its a classic. I think a caption contest is in order for that picture. Its an Oldie but GOodie!

I will never get the image out of my mind about Coleman looking like an alien after fighting Fedor, irresponsibly bringing his 2 very young daughters to the fight, and then having the audacity to try n introduce Fedor, the man that beat their father into a bloody pulp, to his young daughters.

This was the begining of Coleman “THe senile old man”

by john on May 27, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a father, I still hate that picture.

by Jeff on May 27, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

that picture actually won “photograph of the year” in a journalism contest. the caption for it was “daddy’s ok”. i actually love the pic. he let his daughters into the ring to see that he was ok, and he introduced fedor to is daughters to show them that fedor wasnt hurting him, or mad at him, or trying to kill him. he was trying to show his daughters that mma is a SPORT, between PROFESSIONALS, and these people are not monsters. well, fedor is a monster, but in a different sense. now, would i bring my 7 and 10 year old daughters to watch me fight? no. 12 year olds…ok. but this was not the first time that his daughters saw him fight either.

by Andrew on May 27, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point Andrew but I personally wouldn’t have done it inside the ring…wipe the blood off first maybe?

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. and maybe throw an ice pack on.

by Andrew on May 27, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

matches up with lyoto’s fist maybe but not machida himself

by ufcaddict on May 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

!!??!?!?!??

Lot of exclamation points, more question marks

by Bennie Blanco on May 26, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

@ Coleman

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pictures Coleman lunging in for a sloppy takedown time and time again due to lack of confidence in his slow, sloppy striking while getting punched in the face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Ca$z on May 27, 2009 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

don’t laugh…he’s also come up with a really really cool entreance he wants to try in his next main event

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL…What in his dressing gown attached to a zimmer frame?

by Ca$z on May 27, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman, I was a fan of yours back in your early UFC days so I won’t laugh, I’ll just be realistic. Jardine, Shogun, Griffen, Evans, Rampage are just a couple names in front of you. How could you think game plan for Machida when you will never make it that far. You need to just focuss on Bonnar and say No Comment next time asked about Machida.

by getrawbc on May 27, 2009 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

too many names…he’ll lose to Bonnar in the 1st rnd and be cut

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Machida’s reply: “Who is this Mark Coleman you speak of?”

by naturalshadow on May 27, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFR\

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man

by rhys on May 26, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure why this funny… To me it is sad. He really needs mental help. I don’t think any commission should ever allow him to fight again. He obviously isn’t all there.

BUT, but, but… Coleman in his “hay day” would…actually he’d have no chance at any point in time…nevermind. His cardio is top notch though…I’ll give him that. That 3 round display against Shogun was phenomenal. The only person in the arena in worse shape than Shogun that night was Coleman. Wow, that was a lot of fighter bashing.

by mikemick on May 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was awarded for the fight of the night BTW!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 26, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leave the hammer alone. He needs to get that paper if he wants to retire without being broke. (No he doesn’t have a gym, hammerhouse is his porch.)

by NameNotRequired on May 26, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya but don’t forget he’s got that “Cat” guy and Baroni out on his front porch with him

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’s taken so many head shots he is refering to stephan bonner as machida hahahah

by tanned187 on May 27, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this a joke?

by brandongk4 on May 26, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t stop laughing either!!!

by Bennie Blanco on May 26, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know whats funnier….him thinking he can beat Machida or him thinking he will ever get to the point of being given a title shot!!!!???

Funny shit.

by Ca$z on May 27, 2009 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

no doubt…Dana and Joe Silva are scrambling around right now in sheer excitment as they didn’t realize that Coleman could give them a great fight…dudes got secrets

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman has a great point here!! After he runs roughshod through Machida and snatches the LHWT belt, he should immediately be matched against the winner of Mir/Lesnar. After he demolishes the HWT champ and captures his second belt, the fun really begins. We should withdraw all troops from overseas, and instead send in Coleman, who will rid the region of terrorists within a week. Wonder if Stephan Bonnar realizes he’ll be torn to shreds by the unstoppable wrecking machine that is Mark Coleman?

by CL on May 27, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha. love the overseas part.

by JB on May 27, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like a very weak attempt at a title shot, how could anyone take this seriously.

by Dragon on May 27, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

coleman has taken too many head shots

by jslim on May 26, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Its just ridiculous how Dana White says he doesn’t want Chuck Liddell fighting in the ufc anymore because he’s worried about his health.But he continues to book Coleman who’s older than Liddell and who’s odviously not got a full deck anymore if he really believes what he’s saying here.

by JT on May 26, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess he just cares about chuck as a friend, whereas he doesnt really mind if coleman has to be taken out in the yard one day and shot. haha. oh dear.

by Hardcase on May 27, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right on the money. Sometimes Dana White’s logic can be a little off kilt, to say the least.

by erba on May 27, 2009 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dana does that because people still buy Chuck Liddell products. I haven’t seen a Mark Coleman shirt in a long time.

by naturalshadow on May 27, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

aww some1 already told us about this cant remember if it was john, kevin or alpha male but anywho old news lol

by ruanfiy on May 26, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha really..

by matthew on May 26, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

He must have used his last fight of the night bonus to buy a truck load of peyote.

by brandongk4 on May 26, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Finally a GOOD idea; peyote’s a bit much for me but I’d go with a couple hundred lbs of bricks of herb if I won that kind of cash. And they’d never get me for “intent to distribute”; I’d be like, hell naw, this is all for personal use.

by O damn he got caught on May 27, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t worrie for a truck load O damn!With 50k you can’t have more than a Hockey bag of herbs!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, atleast Mark is right about something, the gameplan should be to take him down for almost anyone..

by RoB on May 26, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to see this, because before the Rashad fight, Machida said if Rashad got him down, he “wouldn’t stop attacking” from the bottom.

Maybe it will be like Anderson vs. Lutter all over again.

by Space on May 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess he can wrestle as well as Tito/Shad

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

this would be great i like to see people jump in to the deep end of the pool and drown

by sleeper on May 26, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s only one or two or six wins away from a title shot…if he can go till he’s 50 without a loss he’ll get his shot.

by Amos on May 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

hahahahaha good call

by bump on May 26, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez, and he had gained a lot of respect from me for acknowledging that lyoto will be champ for a LONG TIME as he said in the dw video log #4… now he lost it again lol.

by orcus on May 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

So a Japanese “pro” wrestler decides to drum up spin for himself by claiming the absolute most ridiculous thing. Good for you Mark, ‘cept no one’s buying.

by Youtaped on May 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it April fools day again already?

by JT on May 26, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Ernest the cat Miller? The karate star of the wwe?

by sherk's left nut on May 26, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats what i was thinking!

hahahahhhaahahaha

by SoCalStunNa on May 26, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Ayotollah himself!

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that who it is? That was the only person I could think of. Is that really the best striking coach they could get for Hammer House?

by naturalshadow on May 27, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m afraid he’s the best they could get, The Undertaker and Batista were both busy.

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about the British Bulldog??

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s dead you sick, sick man!

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

IT WAS A JOKE!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

A joke toward you since your British and a attakdog(Bulldog)!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, I wasn’t being serious sun.

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a Brett Hart fan!So i would never disrespect the British Bulldog!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s Brett up to nowadays? Is he still whineing on about the Montreal screwjob?

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep!He probably is??

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pity, he should let it go, I always liked the hitman.

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently “The Hitman” is a douche. A good friend of mine married one of his niece’s. Most at the wedding said he was a tool, and he didn’t show up to see his niece get married.

by naturalshadow on May 27, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, enough said.

by Alex on May 26, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

good joke mania!

by Nick on May 26, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

hahahahahaha don’t do drugs kids…… I mean do them! just don’t think like coleman.
I guess he has lived long enough he knows how he wants to go…lol

by TRIKZ on May 26, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

screw it…let em try. Why not? I hate machida but I have to admit he is damn good. And he has gotten more aggressive which has made him better. I don’t think he would have beaten rashad if he sat back and didn’t attack…it was the fact that rashad had to worry about machida’s offense that took rashad off his game…but anyway I guess what I’m sayin is, if rampage doesn’t beat em why not just give coleman a chance. I don’t think anyone else in that division will be able to beat him if page can’t so screw it let coleman have his chance now before he turns 50 waiting for his turn.

by trbtrouble on May 26, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

coleman by ko head kick

by satan on May 26, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Mark, pass that sh*t. Coleman is a moron. The fact that he even thinks he would ever deserve a title shot is proof as to how delusional he is. Even if Machida had both arms and one leg amputated, Coleman would still get beaten down. Machida wouldn hop around on one leg like a spastic, and then kick Mark in the head for the KO. Sometimes there is something to be said for voluntary euthanasia. Go away MArk, no one likes you.

by --utaptout-- on May 26, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

“The Cat” is a Karate black belt dumbasses!!

by Pimp_man on May 26, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay Coleman is starting to go crazy. I dont know if anyone matches up well against Machida.

by belfort_fan on May 26, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I think coleman will never get out of the first round with machida. I would like to see machida and anderson silva get it on though. That match up could be fight of the year.

by samir on May 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Machida vs Anderson Silva

by samir on May 26, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

whats even funnier he almost beat shogun lololololloooolllpolrofl

by hhddavidson on May 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Ufc BETTER NOT waste time on a fight like this. Coleman is delusional.

by WDC on May 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i wouldn’t be too worried

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

A touch of the Shamrocks there from Old Man Coleman. Must be going senile in his old age.

by RobH86 on May 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman is a nice guy, kind of a MeatHead though, not the sharpest tool in the shed… ya’ know?

by DAVE A on May 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman is a moron, he is nowhere near UFC caliber and will be destroyed by Bonnar at 100 so the fact that he thinks that not only is he worthy of a title shot but that he could actully beat the best 205lbr in the world is mind boggling. And I don’t care how good The Cat is at karate, he knows sod all about MMA. Karate is really difficult to adapt to MMA and only really talented martial artists like Machida have been successful with that style, Ernest Miller would have no clue how to deal with Machida’s style in MMA and Coleman’s far too old to learn new tricks. Dumbest quote of the year by far.

by David W-S on May 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

THe only guy COleman matches up well against is Ken Shamrock because they’ve both been hit in the head one too many times and are delusional at this point.

by GSP4Prez on May 26, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Strange quote – punch drunk. I like the guy but this is a bit far fetched. Tito couldnt take him down, old man Coleman couldnt eitheir, maybe 10 years ago. Not now. He’s done. He’s all done. Ha.

by SiamMMA on May 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love that pic!!

by TOMMY-OUZO on May 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone notice in Dana’s Videoblog episode 4 of this past PPV, Mark Coleman makes an appearance in the footage along side Frankie Edgar and Matt Serra as it seems they are awaiting for the post fight press conference?

On a side note, did anyone catch Sojouko’s performance this morning? You could almost see he knew that his fight may be last ever. Dont know the reason he kept hitting, but obviously he needed to get that out. It happens.

by torresisawarrior on May 26, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Soko kept hitting Norje b/c of some bad blood between them.
They are both from Africa and a lots of stuff have been said over the weeks.+ Norje laugh at Soko before the round!
That doesn’t give a good reason for doing what he did though!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

got a link to that Alph???

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s on youtube. Disgraceful behaviour from RTS. He’s shit anyway, finally found his niche though KO’ing cans in japanese freakshows. Stay there where there’s no competition and your awful cardio wont be found out.

by attakdog on May 27, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Mac i don’t!I erase it a few weeks ago.But here a quote of,one of Nortje’s interview

Do you have any words for your opponent?

To my opponent… it’s gonna hurt.Take your pain pills before the fight, you are messing with the real heavyweights now!

That was the nicest thing that he said about him in weeks
There was some bullshit about who’s gonna be the king of Africa and stuff,like that!

If i,can found back the links i’ll tell you!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 27, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a dummy! He won’t even last two rounds with Bonnar!

by ducknow on May 26, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

What a load of shit – thats the dumbest thing any figher of any sport has said ever – that is just idiotic

by Gareth on May 27, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Mark Coleman must be suffering from Alzheimer’s. That has to be it. What a fucking idiot. he would get murdered. It would be Pearl Harbor all over again.

by BadNutz on May 27, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

at least he’s right about the wrestling game plan. A really big LHW with awesome wrestling is what it’s going to take.

by BulletproofTiger on May 27, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

like Shad or Tito??? c’mon…

by McArthur on May 27, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice of Coleman to share his face with his daughters after he got beat up……now there’s a cherished memory of Daddy….

by sudnvictory on May 27, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Fedor gave it to him! He gave it to him hard in that fight!

by Nick on May 27, 2009 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

he said the same shit about Randy back when he was champ

by Newwwwww on May 27, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I lol’d…

by tony on May 27, 2009 2:55 AM EDT reply actions  

HAHAH what a joke…

by Il Nino on May 27, 2009 3:55 AM EDT reply actions  

now lets wait for tito ortiz, jardine, james irvin, and houton alexander to say they, “match up perfectly” with machida. Losers have a way of hyping themselves up.

by ramon on May 27, 2009 4:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Couture vs Machida?

by lukeinShanghai on May 27, 2009 6:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Couture vs Machida?

Maybe 5-6 years ago this would have been nice

by ducknow on May 27, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why is everyone here doubting Coleman, the man is a certified legenend.

If anyone has a chance against Machida its Mark Coleman.

World Class wrestling + new training regime = Tough fight for Machida

by HammerHouse on May 27, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Is this for real?

Bonnar will smash coleman, easy.

by Brandon on May 27, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO. This is Webster’s dictionary definition of blasphemy.

by Kimura88 on May 27, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

“LMAO. This is Webster’s dictionary definition of blasphemy.”

Please have a little more respect for a UFC legend.

If Coleman thinks he has a good chance then who are we to argue?

by HammerHouse on May 27, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Machida by Coleman not arriving for the fight.

by yoububg on May 27, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Fighter’s like Coleman made it possible for fighter’s today to be successful….nothing wrong with pumping yourself up before a fight….15-20 years from now all of us will be rooting for fighters like Coleman, thinking hey maybe we’re not that old…i think it’s great for him, he gave the sport alot of thrills, including the Shogun fight which was exciting and gave alot of us something to do on a Saturday-night.

by Robert(1) on May 27, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Wasn’t the Cat a WCW wrestler? In fact, I’d swear to it. That doesn’t impress me much. Sure, he’s a great kickboxer, but still. Get real.

by YouveGotGold on May 27, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

IMO the only two people that would even stand a change of beating Machida would be Anderson Silva due to his amazing striking even then i think machida would kill him lol and the secong styleistically would be Randy Couture, if Randy could pin Machida up against the cage and inpose his will on him then he would walk away with the W and the lightheavyweight belt :P

by JuMbO jOe on May 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

hahahaha I have to laugh. Aww bless ’im!

by UK_Chris on May 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

LMAO!!! enough said, I guess everyone else spoke for me.

by nathan on May 27, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

man the steroids did some serious damage to this guys head Lmao

by denni on May 27, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Does he really think that lol?

by xxBAxx816 on May 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude, it was obviously a joke. Coleman is usually as humble as they get, and Ernest “The Cat” Miller, while a point-karate world champion, is most famous for being a professional wrestler with a karate gimmick.

I thought it was hilarious, but I guess the joke went over most people’s heads.

by Dan on May 28, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

coleman via homacide

by midgetman on Aug 5, 2009 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

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