lmfao i dont know but im sure rampage can come up with a bettter game plan then not throwing a punch….that fight was very boring the finish was awesome, but all in all if the fight is a stand up fight and you dont throw strikes you will lose, thats all rashad prooved

Rampage will get toasted just like shad. Page is aggressive, has literally no head movement, and his lateral movement and angles are terrible. Also, he tends to plant his front leg. Put it all together and you have the perfect candidate for another Chida victim. Page would be lucky to see the 3rd round.

Chida is going to own that belt for a long, long time. Enter the Dragon!!!

Page has no head movement? hehe, have you ever seen him fight? his angles and movement is great, he’s a much more talented striker than Rashad is.. Rashad might be the more naturally gifted guy physically with his speed and explosiveness which creates an enormous punching power, but he is nowhere near Rampage when it comes to boxing technique and most importantly defense!
also remember that Rampage is stronger and a better wrestler no matter if Rashad was better in college or not!

wow, you guys can all continue to ride the hate train on Rampage but all it’ll do is let those of us who know reality win more money come September or October when this fight goes down. Rampage is too strong, powerful and good defensively to succomb to Machida.

Everybody tends to let the most recent fights dictate what will happen next but let’s not forget what has happened in the past. Rampage has brutal GnP and besides his fight five years ago against Wanderlei where he took like 10 knees straight to the dome, has never been knocked out. Now Machida.. prior to his Jan. fight against Thiago, he had never finished an opponent. So now two guys have played right into his hands, well good for Machida. But lets not get carried away and start thinking that Machida is going to finish Jackson, a fighter that has only been finished by two guys in his entire 40 fight career!

Jackson will win and reign for a long time.

Page does indeed have no head movement and his angles and footing are terrible. But he is stronger than Rashad and much more difficult to knock out. I have Lyoto winning by unanimous decision.

As long as he wants to be champ! Right after his exciting interview I celebrated by drinking my piss!!

He will keep evolving. This is not even Machida in his prime yet. He just started training some disciplines like a year ago, and then mixes it into his Karate style, mostly for defensive purposes.

Also, that was NOT a boring fight. That fight had everyone on the edge of their seat just waiting for the moment that Machida finds his opening. It is getting to the point where before the fight, Machida can chose what round, what minute, and just about what second he wants to end the fight, and he’ll do so. According to him and Ed Soares, KO’ing Thiago at the bell was the gameplan.

Ehemm. Machida KOed Franklin far worse that Rah. And Rua KOed Rampage.

eehm no Rampage wasn’t Ko’d by Rua even if the ref stepped in a year late to stop the fight, Rampage literally had to get his head through the ropes for the ref to jump in.. And please watch Rampage fight, he has better head movement than Rashad period! If you can’t see that than you don’t know what you’re looking at..

I think you must be watching someone else. Watch the Page Jardine fight again. Page’s head might as well be on a stick. The only time he showed head movement was when his corner was yelling at him, then he would move it for about 2-3 seconds, then it was right back to stationary (head movement and dipping your shoulders are not the same thing). Like I said, bad angles, plants his leg, no head movement… Also, Page always carries his left super low… Chida will make him look silly.

well, he’s fought a hell of alot better fights then he did against Jardine so that’s not a fight that i even care about since that wasn’t even close to being the normal Rampage, and he still knocked him down twice and clearly won so…
Page has the best boxing defense in the LHW division without a doubt, and the way he covers and rolls is just beautiful to watch..

The only guy that can beat him won’t fight him (Anderson Silva)… Rampage is gonna get worked, he’s way too slow!

you are dreaming, anderson could not ever in any way shape or form take on lyota, the only fighter IMO that could take out machida is rua, end of story

Anthony?
“prior to his Jan. fight against Thiago, he had never finished an opponent.”
wth are you talking about? Have you looked at Machida’s record or did you just watch 4 of his fights and assume.

He does go to decision a lot, granted, but he’s finished a lot of fights, including Rich Franklin, Sokudjo and Stephan Bonnar.

I’m a huge shogun fan, but there is no way he can beat him right now. he’s too wreckless

I agree with Caesar. Only Anderson Silva has what it takes to beat The Dragon. He’s going to mow through the light heavyweight division. If i had to pick one light heavy that could match him, it would be Shogun, but I don’t even like that match up.

I totally agree!! Fedor and Cro Cop should make the cut, way more interesting fights at 205… my head explodees just thinking of Anderson Silva vs Fedor at 205. Or Fedor vs Machida for that matter! Cro Cop vs Rampage too!

Thanks Saint.Glad to see not everyone jump on the Machida wagon.

I’ve been on the “Machida Wagon” since before he joined the UFC. I love Rampage and Rashad, but Rashad is definitely the quicker of the two and he wasn’t nearly quick enough for Machida.

Machida is going to defend the belt for a long time. I really don’t understand how you can watch him completely dismantle every fighter who is in front of him and then say that an up and down fighter like Jackson (who doesn’t even check legkicks) is definitely going to knock him out.

And the Forrest fight was not controversial because Forrest won. It was controversial because of the margin by which Forrest won. It was closer than the scorecards but still a Forrest win.

It isn’t just about speed and athleticism though it’s about being a technical standup fighter with defense, speed and explosiveness ain’t always enough and Machida proved that… Chuck is slower than my grandma and that’s why Rashad got away with that KO, and Forrest has no power and isn’t very fast at all..
And nobody takes a punch like Rampage does!

lol at you guys with the whole “doesn’t check leg kicks” bit. So what? Is Machida going to ko him with kicks to his leg? lmao

The leg kicks didn’t faze Jackson against Forrest and they won’t faze him against Machida. In fact nothing Machida does will faze Jackson. If you think for a second that Machida will KO Jackson you’re sorely mistaken. I’m going to forewarn you all on the Machida bandwagon once and for all (and believe me, I’m on the Machida wagon as well, just not against Rampage)… DON’T FORGET THE PAST. Rampage is a DANGEROUS MO-FO and he will mess Machida up with GnP.

that’s right Anthony! Machida couldn’t KO Ortiz who has good defense and a great chin, but Rampage is even better at those things and he counters with POWER!..

Forrest almost did Anthony… its happened before, someone getting leg kicked and unaable to continue

I desperately want to see Machida fight Rampage. So far, machida has been walkin on water with all of his opponents. I think rampage will put up a better fight, and then we can all see if machida can swim.

Really? You are comparing Liddell to Machida? Or Kenpo Karate to Machida Karate? LMAO, what a joke.

Rampage is in my mind one guy that “could” beat Machida, but saying its a sure KO is just rediculous. Until Machida gets beat up a little or loses a round no one can talk crap about his “hands low, head high” approach.

Driving the Machida wagon since ’04.

I got no problem with Machida fans.Its the newly fans,ya know the machida fans that are fans since lastnight,saying I knew it all along and Machida is invincible.I’ve been a mma fan before it was even called mma.Im 30years old and remember ppl saying all these same things about Liddell! so thats where im coming from.I also realise that nothing is a sure thing in mma.

oh yeah scs, who was that other guy you were saying was gonna ktfo machida? oh yeah, it was rashad evans. i guess if you pick against him every time, he will lose eventually and you will look like an mma genius. i’m not saying he can’t win, because i like page as well. but if it took him 3 fights to figure out wandy, i don’t think he can figure machida out watching film.

i honestly hate machida, but i repect his fighting style, i think he will have that belt for a long time….ive always been a rampage and evans fan, but i think rashad had the best shot, so i think rampage won’t win either….i really hate machida though, always have

He is not physically stronger than Ortiz that’s for sure, it’s his technique and timing.. the way Tito fought him by trying to clinch and take him down is clearly a better way than how Rashad fought him last night

How is Rampage one dimensional? Seriously…the guy has awesome slams, great wrestling, and some of, if not the best, technical boxing skills in the division. Add to that an iron chin and he’s no easy draw for anyone. In order for Rampage to beat Machida he needs to quit worrying about the fans and go back to his old ways of dropping you on your head and pounding the shit out of you on the ground. If he takes Machida down a couple times, he can pull it out. His stand up defense and chin are good enough to get inside and once he does Machida could really be in trouble. I thought Rashad would beat Machida last night, but I also said I thought Rampage had the style to beat both of them. Almost all of you disagree but think about what I’m saying and it makes sense. I said it before, and people think the exact opposite, but I think Rampage has the perfect style to take Machida out. You can’t out Machida him, you need a big strong bully like Rampage to take him out.

Im with that

diceman, that was how i would have described rashad evans also, until last night.

completely agree diceman, I said the same exact thing on last night’s 98 wrap up thread.

Rampage will be a VERY tough out for Machida and I for one think Page will get it done.

And this is all coming from a Machida fan who has been since he beat Soko a year and a half ago. When he won that fight, I was like OK, this dude is no joke and I’ve been picking him ever since. But, Jackson is a completely different animal then anyone he’s fought or seen and I think Jackson is going to overpower him.

No buttcrack, that isn’t really a good description of Shad at all. I’ll admit I picked Evans against Machida, but Evans and Page don’t fight the same at all. Just to clarify, I actually like Machida. I think he’s good for the sport, I just don’t think he will beat Page.

DICEMAN the TOOL & ANTHONY — Your prediction has been noted…prepare for egg in the face.

that was a bs decision and everyone knows it!

Page had a broken rib or he had hurt his ribs in sparring coming into the Shogun fight so when Shogun hit him in the ribs the fight was over, but Rampage never gives up and had the fight been in the UFC where they take the fights more seriously and in a more proffessional way then the ref would have jumped in alot earlier..

i beginning to think saint types just to see it post. in one post rampage is the hardest puncher in the division. in the next forrest has a glass jaw. but page couldn’t knock forrest out in a 5 rd fight. the out of shape rua ktfo the same liddell evans did in less time. he has also beaten rampage and alot of accomplished fighters. but saint thinks rashad would destroy him. i want to hear the reasoning behind that. not saying he wouldn’t but i would like to know what you have seen that makes u feel so strongly about that.

Buttcrack: So you are saying that Rampage isn’t one of the hardest punchers in that division and that Forrest at the same time can’t be glass-jawed. That is strange that both of those statements can’t be true at the same time. Point two, when someone runs from you like Forrest did (in the page fight) it is hard to knock someone out so that line of thinking is off.

My only point about Page was that he matches up better than some of yall believe he does. I never said Machida doesn’t deserve the props for knocking out Rashad BUT I am saying that thinking Machida will have the same kind of success with Page because you think he is a slower version of Rashad is incorrect. They have some similarities BUT they are not the same fighter.

LOLOLOLOL Dude you just made the argument for machida!!!!

“when someone runs from you like Forrest did (in the page fight) it is hard to knock someone out so that line of thinking is off.”

If he couldnt catch forrest being elusive than how will he catch machida???

I also think its funny you say rashad would destroy shogun. But then never gave your reason why when asked… Just more page talk.. And hmmm forrest never stood a chance against rashad?? if i remember correctly forrest was picking rashad apart for 2 rounds until shad got the takedown and finished him of.. Which is good for rashad but to say forrest never stood a chance is jsut plain biased.

Come on Mike22, Machida didn’t run from Rashad Saturday night. He stood in there and banged with him when he saw an opening. So if he fights that way against Page we will see something different in the exchanges ala something called punch defense with excellent countering. I like how you took my response out of context, I was countering his argument about Page having to go 5 rounds with a glass-jaw opponent. Clearly it went 5 rounds cause Forrest wasn’t stupid enough to go toe to toe with Page.

Reasons why Rashad would Destroy Shogun IMO is pretty obvious, First Shogun has NO cardio, Shogun’s technique is weak in the UFC where guys are more disciplined, and really if Rashad fought Coleman the fight would have been over in the first round. Shogun was great in Pride but that was many surgeries ago. Knee surgery is no joke. By the way I am a Machida fan as well as a Rampage fan so let me put that out there now. Rashad I could care less for.

Mike22: First, you are taking my comment out of context, Forrest did bicycle around Page because he knew he couldn’t out punch him THAT is why the fight went 5 rounds not because Page couldn’t knock him out which was what was being suggested.

Second: If Machida fights Page like he fought Rashad which was not running away from Rashad, then we will see something different, something called punch defense with a sweet counter which is dangerous for a guy who keeps his chin up and hands wide. That is a true statement so I don’t see how you can argue that.

The reason that Rashad destroys Shogun IMO is pretty obvious. Cardio being the first issue, shoguns technique is an issue in the UFC it doesn’t work against disciplined fighters who fight in the Jackson camp, and finally Shoguns latest showing in the UFC are not more impressive than Rashads.

Let me end with this, I am a Machida fan and Page fan, I could care less about Rashad.

You can take it. I’m gettin old and senile anyway. I’ll change to Grandma! :D

LOL!

Agreed, the only fighter that stands a reasonable chance against the dragon is Silva up to this point. Machida is much too good for anyone in the division to step up to. Rampage would not know what to do with the Karate and Rashad, the thug, never stood a chance!!