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Dream 9 finalized: The Good, the Bad and the Canseco

So now it's official: Former baseball star Jose ‘Can’seco will be making his professional mixed martial arts debut on Tuesday May 26. He’ll be taking on 7’ 2" gargantuan Hong Man Choi at DREAM 9 from the Yokohama Arena in Yokohama, Japan.

Your average Japanese freakshow bout, right? Well almost, but not quite. This match up just doesn’t sit right with me for an abundance of reasons.

Mainly because Canseco isn’t a trained mixed martial artist. He’s more of a civilian if you will. DREAM’s obvious reason for having him compete is to boost the daunting ratings they’ve faced as of late. DREAM 9 will air primetime on Japanese broadcasting channel TBS so it’s important that lots of eyeballs are glued to the set.

And it may pay off. The Japanese have a strong infatuation with the sport of baseball. And Jose’s identical twin brother Ozzie had a short stint with Japan’s Kintetsu Buffaloes and proved to be quite popular, though that was in the early 90’s.

But still, I'm not sure that can justify this booking.

Canseco claims to have a background in a variety of disciplines, but I‘m not convinced he should be fighting. I’m not saying he hasn’t trained in what he claims -- just that I don’t believe he has the adequate skill or efficient training to be competing at this level.

If his short lived boxing career was anything to go off at least, when he faced off against fellow "celebrities" in two bouts. After getting brutally knocked out by former Philadelphia Eagles return man Vai Sikahema in 2008, he then went the distance with putrid Partridge Danny Bonaduce earlier this year.

With that kind of resume, expect a gruesome ending in his squash match against Choi.

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While Hong Man Choi is certainly no world beater and what skills he does have seem to be diminishing, he does have skills, more so than Canseco does. And couple that with his size and what does Canseco really have to offer?

Freak shows of this magnitude in the past have often consisted of an undersized but highly skilled fighter against a larger opponent but one who didn’t rely too much on technical prowess.

This Jose Canseco vs. Hong Man Choi bout seems to have taken that premise but switched it up, which is my main issue with this fight.

It pit’s the smaller, lesser skilled against the larger, higher skilled fighter and that to me is not going to be particularly entertaining to watch. Think of Kalib Starnes vs. Nate Quarry -- only ramp it up to the speed of a Benny Hill skit.

The result of this fight seems like a foregone conclusion, in fact I don’t think Canseco himself thinks he really has a shot at winning, he’s just turning up for the pay check.

What has made some freak shows in the past great viewing was seeing the smaller opposition use technique to overcome the size disadvantage they faced.

One of the most notably being when Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira triumphed over Bob "The Beast" Sapp at PRIDE Shockwave 2002, using superior technique to submit his foe with an armbar. It was made more enticing after witnessing Nogueira viciously piledrived and mercilessly beaten, only to come back, overcome the odds and claim victory much like he’s done his whole life.

The interesting thing about that besides the underdog story was seeing the martial art (in this case Brazilian jiu-jitsu) on display for the world to see, demonstrating its effectiveness.

This freak show between the "Techno Goliath" and the "Steroid stool pigeon" at DREAM 9 doesn’t offer anything like that. It’s not going to be pretty, it’s a train wreck waiting to happen though I could see why that would interest some.

But there’s no competitiveness to it which I think is one of the main reasons we all watch mixed martial arts. Is it not? Canseco doesn’t have anything to fall back on skill-wise like so many smaller opposition have when faced with the task of challenging a "Goliath."

Another factor is that Canseco is 44 years of age and unless your last name is Couture, that doesn’t usually bode well for highly trained mixed martial artists, let alone a former baseball player without much fighting experience -- against a 7’ 2" kickboxer.

And though Canseco isn’t the most liked person in the world by any standards, I’m sure most of us wouldn’t want to see him get seriously hurt (cough). If not for compassion for your fellow human being than at least for the black eye it could put on the sport we all hold dear.

With that the "Super Hulk" Tournament does have a couple of other intriguing match ups. One that should present an exciting showdown is Gegard Mousasi up against heavy handed kickboxer Mark Hunt.

Mousasi recently relinquished his DREAM Middleweight title because he desired a move to Light Heavyweight.

He’s the favorite, but what does winning the DREAM "Super Hulk" Tournament really do for him? Certainly a step down from being DREAM Middleweight champion. He was considered by many to be one of the few who could pose a threat to UFC middleweight kingpin Anderson Silva, but them now ever tangling seems unlikely.

Also his opposition Mark Hunt, though tough, is 5-5 in mixed martial arts and on a four fight losing skid. A win over him won’t really do much for his stature. And a loss to Hunt would be worse, and it’s certainly a possibility with the weight advantage and the great stand up Hunt boasts.

Then after that, other likely candidates he’ll be facing could be Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, who has recently fallen out of favor in the eyes of many fans with his recent poor performances seeing, him come out on the losing side three times out of his last four.

Then there’s Ikuhisa Minowa, who could be a possible future opponent but is a middleweight, the likes of which Mousasi vacated his title to not face off against in the first place.

All this meaning Mousasi’s involvement in this tournament doesn’t make much sense, but it’ll still be joy to watch him compete nonetheless.

However if freaks hows aren’t your thing than no worries, that shouldn’t stop you from tuning into HDNet on Tuesday, May 26 at 5:00am ET. The DREAM 9 card has a whole heap of other stellar fights to offer.

The card will play host to the promotion’s featherweight Grand Prix Tournament.

The focal point of which will boast the long awaited return of 139-pound superstar Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto, who was offered a first-round bye in the tournament in hopes that he will have recovered from a previous injury in time to compete.

He’s coming off a long 16-month layoff, but now he’s finally ready to compete and will take on wrestling stud Joe Warren.

In non-tournament action will be highly regarded lightweight standout Gesias "JZ" Calvancante who is set to throw down with Japanese mainstay Tatsuya "Crusher" Kawajiri, in a bout that has 'Fight of the Year' potential written all over it.

And grappling phenom Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza is slated to once again do battle with the charismatic Jason "Mayhem" Miller, in a bout that will be contested for the vacant DREAM Middleweight title.

So come showtime, the good should outweigh the bad, hopefully.

Here is the official line-up for ‘DREAM 9’:

Featherweight grand prix quarterfinals:
Norifumi Yamamoto (17-1) vs. Joe Warren (1-0)
Masakazu Imanari (16-6-1) vs. Bibiano Fernandes (4-2)
Yoshiro Maeda (24-6-2) vs. Hiroyuki Takaya (10-6-1)
Abel Cullum (14-2) vs. Hideo Tokoro (21-16-1)

"Super Hulk" Openweight quarterfinals:
Ikuhisa Minowa (41-30) vs. Bob Sapp (10-3-1)
Jan Nortje (2-5) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (5-4)
Gegard Mousasi (24-2-1) vs. Mark Hunt (5-5)
Hong Man Choi (1-2) vs. Jose Canseco (0-0)

DREAM middleweight title:
Ronaldo Souza (10-2) vs. Jason Miller (22-6)

Non-tournament bouts:
Gesias Calvancante (14-2-1) vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri (23-5-2)

For more on DREAM, check out our archive by clicking here.

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I love the title!

by Brian Oswald on May 20, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I know right!! It must have taken a long time to come up with “Super Hulk” wtf? lmfao!!

by Dragon on May 20, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Brian’s was referring to…The Good, the Bad and the Canseco!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 21, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this cards up there with ufc 100 for card of teh year.

by Clinton Jackson (formerly Jared) on May 20, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think its a great card, yeah jose is going to get knocked out so what so do alot of fighters.you say what would a win over hunt do for gegard?it would give him a win over a tough hw.and a fight with soko is not a bad thing, the rest he could do with out.

by roy on May 20, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

me too…Miller, GC, Mouassi, AND the return of Kid Yamamoto!!!!! its actually a great card even with the sideshows…but how did “Joe Warren” get tangled up with Kid in his 2nd pro MMA fight???

by McArthur on May 20, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dunno but ill be in the 1 person out of 1 million that takes joe warren to win. hell take kid by decision.

WAR WARREN (aka mini hendo)

by Clinton Jackson (formerly Jared) on May 20, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look what Jan Nortje said:“Sokoudjou is messing with the real heavyweights now!”

http://www.mmaunltd.com/feature-detail.asp/NewsID/311/jan-nortje-talks-super-hulk-tournament.htm

by Alpha Male 360 on May 20, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also…Bas Rutten challenges Jose Canseco to a fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TkreyfI-i4

by Alpha Male 360 on May 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They probly want Bibiano Fernandes-Kid rematch in the finals. Hell he was 1-1 when they first fought and he took him a decision. My boy fernandes is taking this thing all the way after he smashes or hell even subs Imanari. Also, i like hunt a lot in the mousasi fight. I don’t imagine mousasi having good enough wrestling to make up for the big difference. That combined with granite chin of Hunt, i see a KO for the samoan banger.

by NameNotRequired on May 20, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed cant really see any other result but hell mousasi is crazy and if he wins he’ll definately be a p4p candidate in the coming years guaranteed

by Clinton Jackson (formerly Jared) on May 20, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mousasi or Hunt,will win that tournement!
Miller for the title!
Calvancante
Kid Yamamoto
Imanari

by Alpha Male 360 on May 20, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a Mayhem MOnkey for life, but there is NO WAY that Jacre will lose to Mayhem. Mayhem wont be able to keep Jacre off him long enough to even attempt any offense. All Miller will be able to do is defend endless sub attempts on his way to losing another decision and the title to one of my very favorite fighters in the game….JACRE! JACRE! JACRE!

by john on May 21, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling there will be a lot of former and current MLB players watching to see Canseco get destroyed.

by Diceman on May 20, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention Bonaduce is 5 foot nothing and Choi is a god damn giant. Ridiclous fight that makes no sense to me.

by BNF on May 20, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not only is Bonaduce short, but he is small. Even when he was on steroids he just looked like a normal dude.

by naturalshadow on May 21, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I swear to god, I would fight Bonnaduce in a heartbeat if I could, and I would enjoy every minute of it! I dont like roided tough guys like him…..I would give anything to tear his whole leg apart with a heel hook!

by john on May 21, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ill be watching just to see Maeda fight. That dude is a serious warrior! His fight with Torres was one of the best fights of all time.

Ok ok, I admit it… I want to see if Canseco can fight… haha

by enzo-enormous on May 20, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He can’t.

by Jeremyjackson on May 20, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word!!Canseco R.I.P!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 20, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Canseco vs. Hong Man Choi its just wrong…

by arturo_caap on May 20, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Hunt will win it all.

by Anderson Silva on May 20, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dont u owe me $45? lol

by john on May 21, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is Jose Canseco gonna beat up Yao Ming if he couldn’t even beat up one of the partridge kids?
That’s gonna be ugly.

by scissorfight on May 20, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice treat right before my b day
and sick poster
kid and man choi actual size difference is classic

by phenomenal angel on May 20, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mousasi will win it all!!!!

by danny on May 20, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think canseco will be winning this fight in every aspect until he gets caught

by HellaHectic on May 21, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok,we know that your joking!!You can stop now!

by Alpha Male 360 on May 21, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Fernandes decides to throw his leg out while doing those overhand rights, like he did in his last fight, Imanari will take it home with him

by Benz on May 21, 2009 5:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not much for train wrecks, but Canseco in an mma match??? didn’t he just get his a$$ handed to him by Danny Partridge and then knocked out by a wide reciever after that?

He deserves the beating he is going to get.

by The Slovak on May 21, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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