Wanderlei Silva: Money talks. Will 'Spider' walk?
by Jesse Holland on May 17, 2009 4:40 AM EDT
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"If Anderson believes in Franklin so much, bet $50,000 and let's see who takes the money. I go to knock him out. I have trained so much and Rich won't last two rounds. I think it is good Anderson has been preparing him. I hope he is also on the corner. I want to dare him to bet $50,000. I put these amount and Anderson or his sponsors, Ed Soares or Joinha, bet another part. Who wins takes the money."
Wanderlei Silva has strong words for fellow Brazilian and former training partner Anderson Silva, who may have betrayed an unwritten code by preparing former UFC middleweight rival Rich Franklin for his bout against "The Axe Murderer" at UFC 99: "The Comeback" at the Lanxess Arena in Cologne, Germany, on June 13, 2009. "The Spider" spent a few weeks with "Ace" at his gym in California, which didn't sit well with Wandy -- who now expects Silva to pony up 50 G's to prove how confident he is that Franklin will win. This over-the-top challenge comes on the heels of another high-profile spat bewteen Affliction Veep Tom Atencio and Dana White -- who refused an Atencio invitation to end their dispute inside the Octagon. What happened to the good ol' days when guys settled their differences by playing the dozens???
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You should add the ABBA “Dancing Queen” song in the background!
by Alpha Male 360 on May 17, 2009 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao wandy’s gunna get ktfo nomatter who he faces
by JG on May 17, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got wand! Franklin won’t know what to do with someone so aggressive ala spider!
by kevin on May 17, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franklin will take him apart with technique and precision.
by PW on May 17, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wand’s only chance is to get a KO he ain’t winning any decision’s or standup battles that is about technique or anything, he’s just too short and he’s swinging wild with no defense whatsoever..
by RoB on May 17, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franklin simply doesn’t have the power to shut him off. He’s also someone who cumulates damage by constantly moving forward but no one will out-forward wand. I don’t see rich’s technique being as clean while moving backwards either so it’s a matter of time before he gets clipped enough times.
by NameNotRequired on May 17, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you but just like Chuck I think Wandy can get knocked out by anybody….I know Rampage is a beast but he really doesn’t have that kind of one punch power…Jardine lasted and Forrest, Wandy just looked like someone shot him during his fight…his chin is gone!! His best bet is to bum rush Rich and mual him. People say Wandy is just facing toughing competition, that may be true but he gets laid out now…like sleeping!! which never happened before, even when Vitor ko’d him he was still not dreaming, sad but Wandy is done and Rich will win this fight but I will be rooting for Wandy always…
by Robert(1) on May 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage does not have that one punch knockout power? wow, anybody would have been out from that hook he threw at Wanderlei.. If he landed punches like that at Jardine or Forrest they would have been out cold!
by RoB on May 17, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had Rampage landed such a powerful and well placed punch on Jardine or Forrest, they might have DIED in the Octagon.
IMO, this is a terrible match up for Franklin. Some of you guys just have no idea how technical wanderlei can be. Yes he is known as a slugger, but I have seen him technical out strike Cro Cop, and Hunt…..Lets see Rich do that! Not a chance! Rich would have crapped his pants had he had to stare at cro Cop in his prime across the ring!
I am so sick of all the idiots telling me that Wandy’s chin is SHOT! Thats just silly talk! Only times Wandy’s chin didnt hold up was against Henderson’s BOMBS, Rampage’s perfectly placed hook, that would have KO’ed an ELEPHANT, and cro cop’s left high kick, which is one of the most devestating strikes in the history of mma, and that kick didnt even land on wandy’s chin, he took it on the dome…what Human would have not been Ko’ed by that? Maybe not Fedor, but we agreed that he is more GOD then Human!
NNR is absolutely right. Rich’s technical striking wont mean anything once he is back peddling! Rich’s power is also over rated. Imo Rich is crazy if he strikes with wanderlei. Rich can win this fight by taking wanderlei down n ground n pounding wandy’s over rated K-mart black belt…problem is that Franklin, like wandy is a crowd pleaser. This is a main event and Rich knows that no 1 wants to see Wanderlei in a ground fight, so im pretty sure Rich will stand with wandy the entire time. BIG MISTAKE! Rich just doesnt have the chin to be able to deal with him. Rich is used to being hit by middleweights and he is used to dealing with middleweight level chins. Wanderlei, has been undersized his entire career. Wanderlei has destroyed heavyweights with impressive chins. For example, anyone see what he did to fujita with his punches? Lets see Franklin Ko Fujita and his fire plug sized dome! Lets see Rich franklin’s chin hold up against the heavy hitting Mark Hunt. Who has Rioch ever ko’ed standing? Quarry? Big deal! Do I really have to run off the list of great fighters that Wanderlei has KNocked Silly?
Wanderlei is going to win this fight. Rich can thank Anderson for pissing wanderlei off even more, and probably tripling wandy’s intensity n aggression come fight night!
Only way Rich can win this fight is by taking wanderlei down. Which isnt going to happen. THe great part about this match up is that both fighters are crowd pleasers. They know that the fans want to see them strike, and they will deliver. Big Props to Rich. He could easily win this fight by taking it to the ground, but he will give the fans what they want, stand with Wanderlei, and probably get KO’ed into next week for it! For that I have to respect and applaud Rich.
Hope his plastic surgeon can make the trip to Germany!
fyi: Rich is going to break mentally as soon as wanderlei locks him into a tai clinch! If he thought Anderson had an aggressive Tai clinch, wait till he feels wanderlei’s!!!!!!
by john on May 18, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wandy lost to both Hunt and Cro Cop
At this point I take Ace’s chin over Wandy’s, not the Wandy of Pride but the Wandy of today
by Robert(1) on May 19, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, but what if Wand loses after all this talking and stuff?
Wanderlei, you better win the fight bro!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Pamirec on May 17, 2009 4:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed. What a moron.
I actually like him as a fighter but this sounds so stupid. “I dare you to bet 50k, I dare you if you think he will win! do it, do it!”
by Bennie Blanco on May 17, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
must agree with mcarthur and pw
by randy murders on May 17, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think Wandy is being smart. Wandy is a loss or two from becoming, a past his prime novelty. With all his jabbering with Anderson, he’s planting seeds for a potential “grudge match” in the future. This is a smart way to get a quicker title shot. Grudge matches make the UFC money. Case in point: Sham vs. Ortiz.
If Wandy can find a way to win a couple fights (no small task), I guarantee that his name will be brought for a title shot.
I can hear the marketing gimmick for this fight already…“Brazilian grudge match. Former teammates with a score to settle. UFC 110. Only on PPV.”
Just you wait.
by RealDrew on May 17, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure hope so… id love to see wanderlei murder anderson
by brendan on May 17, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, bet 50g that a guy thats training with you will win? Thats a joke.
by lokie on May 17, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Wand would not talk smack like this.
I know they want to set up some Wanderlei vs Anderson big fight down the road, I guess it doesnt really matter if he wins or loses cause any one of us would pay to see them fight.
Rich is a great fighter however and Wanderlei should not be so cocky in underestimating him.
Rich has only ever really lost to the best in the business, same more or less with Wandy.
I am thinking Rich takes this one by a submission, probably a triangle.
by DirtyML on May 17, 2009 5:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i LOVE wandy but don’t think this was a wise comment.
obviously he has the confidance (and HAS to) but think about it….
WHAT IF he were to lose, get cut by the UFC (or take a major pay reduction) then owe 50 K….
either way this is a fight i was hoping NOT to see as neither one can really afford a loss (more so WANDY) plus both are two of my favorite fighters!
by SoCalStunNa on May 17, 2009 5:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wandy wont get cut or a reduction and he WILL win this fight as he said KO!
by Khaos_Warrior on May 17, 2009 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he fights him the way he fought Lutter or Hamill, I seriuosly doubt it. Even though Wandi was recently knocked out, I have not seen anything in Franklins last few fights to show me that he has what it takes to beat him, and I do not see him hitting as hard or inflicting no where near as much damage as Chuck did to Wandi, and Chuck couldn’t take him out. I see a TKO for Wandi, probably second round.
by Ade on May 17, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Despite rooting for Rich and really, really hoping he wins, I agree that he needs to step up his game and show a better performance than he did against Lutter and Hamill. There was something lacking, an energy or something, which seemed too laid back or uncommitted.
He survived a potential Henderson KO and even started to take him apart near the end, but he’s gotta get quicker and more explosive.
I reckon his technique will win the fight with Wand but it doesn’t mean I won’t constantly fear the unexpected KO from him.
by Johnny Farnham on May 17, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ade, I gotta disagree. Franklin doesn’t need one punch power to stop Wand. Look at the way a guy like Nick Diaz strikes. Nice and easy, not full power on every shot. Just continues to pepper you and accumulate the damage whilst picking his spots to throw hard shots. Franklin is going to throw more strikes than Chuck did against Wand. Also, Franklin will be able to let his strikes go b/c there is no danger of being taken down as in the Hamill fight or being with a guy like Lutter who has serious ground skills(although he’s a dope). The other thing you have to keep in mind is the Wand has some SERIOUS miles on his body and has taken alot of shots to his head. If boxing has tought us anything it’s that accumulation of damage over time seriously diminishes a fighters abilities not only to work his own game but also to take a punch. This is why I have no problem with Dana not wanting Chuck to fight anymore. Yes Chuck may still be all there mentally, and may be able to compete, but it’s not worth having one of your legends end up like Ali or Frazer or any of the other hundreds of boxers with the “mush head” as I like to call it. Chuck and Wand are gonna represent the sport for a long time to come and it’s not prudent to put them in positions to hamper their quality of life in the long run by sticking around too long. I think Wand is capable of knocking Rich out, but I see this looking like Anderson v Leben, just a little less of a blowout. Rich takes this one. UD or KO from head kick.
by Crowls on May 17, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not really convinced that Rich is the same fighter he used to be before his losses to Silva. I cannot see the same Rich Franklin who fought Tanner or The Crow (not going to try to spell his name). I beleive he will buckle under the power aggresiveness and ferocity of Silva. Most of the other fighters let Rich fight his own game, Silva will not give him the chance (look what happened to Jardine). Rich will not be able to avoid getting hit by Silva for three rounds. This fight will determnine if either of these fighters still has what it takes to compete in the upper levels of their division. Should be interesting.
by Ade on May 19, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting comments, he is really trying to make sure he is the number on contender after the Franklin fights. I hope he wins, because I would love to see the two Brazialians go at it.
by DownUnder on May 17, 2009 6:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats wrong with wanderlai?? rich already said he refuses to “enter conflict” so he’s not training with anderson… Rich to win by unanimous decision with more accurate striking.
by Jakizzle on May 17, 2009 6:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Talk talk talk.
Franklin is going to pick Wandy apart. Franklin by tko in 3rd or UD.
by UK_Chris on May 17, 2009 6:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah bro id bet the 50 000 against wandy if i had it
by Clinton Jackson (formerly Jared) on May 17, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside of the loses to Silva Franklin still looks great. I think Just like Chuck FRanklin with crisp clean boxing will win the fight. He will pick apart Silva.
by Da Monkey on May 17, 2009 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I go to knock him out” I love when Wand says that.. But Franklin will KO him im afraid.
by Americana on May 17, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wandy has lost it. If he can’t beat Franklin why the hell would anyone want to see him fight Anderson?
by Anderson Silva on May 17, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think wandy is taking this a little too far. I dont think he needs to start calling people out. He’s only bet Jardine and Peterra inside the octagan. Hes trying to build a fight with A. Silva but hes out of his league.
by Bobby on May 17, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
over hype is annoying when you lose and still annoying when you win..just fight with your fists..cuz when it comes down to wit, most fighters lack..i just wanna see a good fight!!
by sarah on May 17, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Franklin will win a UD. It will be much like Bisping vs Leben as how u will have the brawler type just getting picked apart by a more technical striker. After Franklin wins this one give him another LHW contender then a title shot. Hey u know thats what Dana wants to do. Do u really think he could stomach another lackluster main event like Evans vs Machida. If it was Franklin vs Machida you already have some storyline built-in.
by guy on May 17, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans vs Machida a lackluster event?? Two of the best in the division, both undefeated, for the title, and that’s not a good storyline? Evans who was never supposed to win has surprised everyone and keeps winning and is very cocky about it. Machida and his complicated style that seems to work on everyone too, also a humble guy. What more do you want??
by UFC Champ on May 17, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans one of the best in the division? LMAO!!
by xxBAxx816 on May 17, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
odviously he is,he has the belt.(for now)
by scott on May 17, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it’s a great matchup in that respect, im just saying as far as Dana is conserned neither one of those guys is a big ppv draw and neither one has a huge fan base.
by guy on May 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think rich is gonna win this fight wandy is always worried about putting on a good show he should worry more about wining
by denni on May 17, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Franklin wont fight his heart out. If he thinks he might get knocked out he will crumple to the mat like he did in the second Anderson fight and the 1st rd of the Henderson fight. he wants to be paid but will not risk getting knocked out or even worse having his nose broken again! Wanderlei is counting on Franklin being the broken man that we all saw even in the first 2 minutes of the 1st Anderson fight, you could see the look in his eyes was like “I want out”!!!
by JRE on May 17, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Franklin showed amazing heart in the second fight with Silva. Your crazy if you think Rich is scared man
by lokie on May 17, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes franklin did show alot of heart[just taking the second fight]..
but~ that doesnt mean he looked confident..
imo~ franklin looked defeated before he fought silva the 2nd time..
he knew what was going to happen~ he just didnt want to look like a puss!
and i respect that!
by stinky~fingers on May 17, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the second fight on his way to the cage his eyes saying “i dont want in”
by ukmma on May 17, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wandy is going out like chuck, mark my words, although i’m sure he can still beat some of the scrubs in the 185lb division..
Say what you want about franklin, but there’s only one guy that can finish him and its not that ‘Silva.’
by spitforce on May 17, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wandy is over. Hes so past his best its embarrassing. Franklin is going to pick him apart and show Wandy is nowhere in the UFC’s best in 2009. Doesnt matter what division, LH or MW. He might beat the middle guys, but the top of each division he wont win. I just cant count Jardine as a decent benchmark. Sorry, but thats the facts.
Wandy will lose to Franklin, and even if he doesnt get sacked, I dont see him beating Silva, Marquart, Bisping, Hendo, Maia or any the top MW guys of 09. Sad, but true.
by UK_Chris on May 17, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wandy is not done he is only 33. You guy listen to Joe Rogan too much. He should beat Franklin and I see no one at 185 that can beat him. He is too aggressive for Frank. If he loses he is done. If not he is one fight away from a title. Give him the hendo Bisping loser.
by hatteras on May 17, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why does wandy talk shit like i wonder how franklin is going to react if anderson or his camp accept the bet lol for a guy who doesnt like conflict a 50k bet would sure add a lot of conflict lol but franklin by brutal body kicks then finish with a head kick wandy going to sleep again lol
by canadian kid on May 17, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wandy is done. I love the passion that all his fans show, and he will be in the hall of fame. Maybe i shouldn’t say he’s completely done…..he can compete in certain fights, but he’ll get picked apart by Franklin, and Bisping would do the same thing. After Wandi loses to Franklin, they should match him up against Leben. That would be an awesome fight.
by kg on May 17, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed hatteras. Wandy has been a reckless fighter is the reason he is losing but he has always been that kind of fighter he just getting caught more now so he needs to change his fight gameplan because his opponents are a lot better trained and aware of Wandy’s style that hasn’t changed all that much from his Pride days.
by Beaver on May 17, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow such as small money to bet on..lol….the real state of the game…there is noooo moooney..btw Dana is such a coward in turning down a fight with the t shirt guy
by yokohama on May 18, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That makes no sense – why would he even want to give Affliction the added press and attention. If he was desperate, then sure but come on yokohoma, get your head out of your ass
by DF on May 18, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because dana claims his from the street..and if your from the street a challenge is a challenge…he disses the tshirt guy all the time and when they guy challenged him he chickened out
by df2 on May 19, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never thought the Spider would have so much impact to a fight he isn’t even in. Wandy, concentrate on your opponent.
Franklin by decision
by DF on May 18, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why’s silva shown looking like a clown from the hood but franklin is untouched?
by ravi on May 18, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone explainn why anderson silva loves fraklin so much? He beat the shit out of him so bad…so is it because of pitty?
by What? on May 18, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WAND is gonna get another W on his fight record. THe CHUTE BOXE WAND is gonna make a come back!!!!
by WAND FAN on Jun 1, 2009 7:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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