Brown stone: MMAmania.com WEC 41 interview exclusive with Mike Brown

Luck is the result of hard work and sacrifice. It's the time when preparation and opportunity meet.
So when doubters branded WEC Featherweight Champion Mike Brown a one hit wonder after his first round destruction of then division kingpin -- and promotional Golden Boy -- Urijah Faber in late 2008, he followed that performance by smashing number one contender, Leonard Garcia, nearly four months later and choking him out to retain his 145-pound belt.
It marked the ninth straight win for the American Top Team product and his twelfth in his 13 most recent performances. Brown hasn't tasted defeat since 2005 and has just four blemishes in 25 appearances throughout his sparkling eight-year mixed martial arts career.
If that's luck, then Mike Brown is perhaps the luckiest man in the sport.
Brown is not physically imposing at 5'6" and 145 pounds. He's quiet, unassuming, and simply goes about his business with a workmanlike attitude and approach.
There is no flash to his game. No verbal banter between him and his opponents prior to fights. No jumping on the cage in celebration after a victory. There is none of that.
And maybe that is the reason he is still relatively underrated and under appreciated by most mainstream fans and media ... even though he now rightfully shows up in the Top 10 on various pound-for-pound lists.
He is the quintessential quiet superstar who currently sports a 21-4 record in his professional MMA career.
The next step for Brown in his quest to remain a dominant champion, and to continue to win over the fans and media alike, is a rematch with "The California Kid." Brown graciously took time away from his hectic training schedule to answer a few questions about American Top Team, his critics, Faber and whether or not he's open to a superfight with Miguel Torres.
Check it out:
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): How long have you been at American Top Team (ATT) and how did you end up there originally?
Mike Brown: I came in 2005. I was fighting down here in a local show called Absolute Fighting Championships in Florida. They brought me down to fight in that show. I met all the people there. I came down to visit once to train and man, I was sold. I made the move.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): There is always a constant debate going as to who runs the best training facility in MMA, whether it's ATT or Xtreme Couture or Greg Jackson's Camp. Why is ATT the best gym in the world?
Mike Brown: We have so many talented coaches and so many talented fighters. The depth we have is amazing. We have so many good guys in each weight. Especially is you're a lighter guy. At 155 we have like ten to twelve world class fighters that have been ranked in the top ten in the world at one time in their career, if not top two or three.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Now set the record straight for me, there's a rumor going around that you're the receptionist at the gym when you're not training? Is that true?
Mike Brown: Yeah man. I answer the phones and I call people up and do all that jazz. I've been doing it for years. I'm still doing it. My schedule has gotten a little busy with the WEC and all but I still work on Saturdays. I cut myself back to one day a week.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): What's the motivation behind that? You just like doing it?
Mike Brown: I like it man. I go in and I surf the Internet. I answer the phones and talk about fighting all day. I could sit at home and do that and not get paid or I could go into the gym and do it and get paid.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Has anybody ever figured out it's you on the phone? What do they say to you?
Mike Brown: Oh yeah they laugh. They'll be like, "Mike? It's really Mike Brown?" Then you know, some people if they're a fan they'll get excited. It's funny man.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Now, moving forward. You fought Leonard Garcia in his home state of Texas and the rematch with Urijah Faber for your upcoming fight at WEC 41 will be on his home turf in Sacramento, California. Do you like being the guy to stroll in and get booed and try to spoil the party?
Mike Brown: To me it doesn't matter where I fight. It's all the same once you shut the cage. The only time it matters is if you have a real close decision. The judges might be swayed by the crowd cheering or booing. As long as it's not tight like that then it doesn't matter. A five round fight is plenty of time to pull away.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): We talked about your camp earlier. How's your current training camp going and who are some of those trainers and fighters you referred to that are helping you get prepared for your upcoming fight?
Mike Brown: I got a boatload of guys I train with. As far as training partners go I train with Yves Edwards a lot. He just had to leave to go to Philadelphia. He's filming a movie up there.
JZ (Gesias) Calvancante is getting ready right now for (Tatsuya) Kawajiri in K-1 so me and him have been sparring a lot. I just got one of my good friends Brad Pickett from England. He just flew in this weekend. He's going to be here for six weeks. I got him right up until my fight.
My coaches, man I got a ton of coaches. I got Marcos Da Matta. He's been helping me a lot with my jiu-jitsu. Of course (Ricardo) Liborio, Coach Howard Davis, Wally Muhammad, we got a staff man. It's not really hard. You just show up and they tell you want to do. You can't help but get better.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Are you 100% healthy and how is your weight right now?
Mike Brown: I'm like in the high sixties and I'm 100% healthy.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): What do you have to say to your critics out there who think your first victory over Urijah was some sort of fluke?
Mike Brown: I mean, what do you say to that? I knocked him out in the first round. It wasn't like I squeaked out a split decision that I shouldn't have won.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): I know Urijah gave you props after the fight and he was all class but sometimes when guys get beat they like to say that they "got caught." That phrase is used fairly often. Is there such a thing as "getting caught" or is that just nice way to save face?
Mike Brown: You can say that. I think you can say that if you were winning two of the rounds and you got caught in the third round. Maybe this is a five round fight and you won the first three or four rounds and then you got caught late in the fight. But if you just get beat up in the first round I don't know how you say "I got caught."
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Will you enter the octagon with a specific game plan to dissect Urijah or are you prepared to take what he gives you and go from there?
Mike Brown: I just go in there. He's a good, well-rounded fighter so you can't try to take him out of his strengths. He's well-rounded. He doesn't have a big hole in his game anywhere. You just got to go out and try to fight a smart fight and try to not make mistakes. He's a world class guy.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): If you're fortunate enough to beat Urijah again who's left for you to fight in the featherweight division? Any names come to mind that you would potential like to fight in the future?
Mike Brown: I got a big one with Urijah. I don't look past him. He's one of the best in the world and it's going to be a battle. Other big names up there ... Jose Aldo. He's probably next in line. I'd say probably the winner of Urijah and I, whoever wins, will probably fight Aldo.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Miguel Torres has expressed some desire to possibly move up in weight. Is a potential super fight with him something that interests you?
Mike Brown: That's a great fight. A lot of people would be interested in it. I would love that fight.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): What about moving back up to 155? Obviously you'd have to go to the UFC or another organization. Is that realistic to you to go back up for a new challenge?
Mike Brown: Yeah I could do that but I don't want to shortcut anybody and say there are no 145's worthy of a fight, because there are many world class guys. I just want to fight big fights. Whatever the fans would like to see is what I want to do. If it's one of the monsters at 145 or one of the monsters at 155. I just want big fights.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): One of the benefits of going to the UFC would be the increase in compensation. With that being said, do you feel like fighters in the WEC, especially the top fighters, are underpaid?
Mike Brown: I would say yes, but it's getting better all the time. Four or five years ago if you were 145 pounds you couldn't even make a living but now you can. Every year it's improving. It's just taking time.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): I get the impression you're the hard working, blue collar guy punching the time clock everyday and going about his business. Is that the mentality you have? If so, do you take pride in that?
Mike Brown: Yeah nothing came easy to me. I didn't take any shortcuts. I've worked hard. I'm not young. I took the long road. I didn't get a title shot after five or six fights. I've fought everywhere and I've had a lot of injuries.
I've worked hard for what I got and for years I had nothing. I'm proud. It's worth it. The reward is much greater when you have to work as hard as I did to get there.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Well Mike that's all I had for you. Is there anything you would like to pass along to your fans out there or any sponsors you would like to thank?
Mike Brown: Yes. Thanks to Tapout, Champion Nutrition, Bushmasters Firearms, and American Top Team.
Derek Bolender (MMAmania.com): Okay great. Thanks again. I appreciate the time. Hopefully we can run you down again before your next fight.
Mike Brown: Thank you very much.
Derek Bolender is a staff writer for InsideFights.com, as well as a syndicated writer to FoxSports and CBSSports. Look for future articles from him on MMAmania.com.
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hes gonna hit fabers ass chin till it looks right..
by guyverbob on May 17, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Brown is great.
I really liked this part (paraphrased):
"got caught." That phrase is used fairly often. Is there such a thing as "getting caught"
Mike Brown: I think you can say that if you were winning two of the rounds and you got caught in the third round. But if you just get beat up in the first round I don’t know how you say "I got caught."
by Punch You in the Ovaries on May 17, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great interview.
I really like Brown’s approach. He is just the epitome of the phrase “hard work pays off” and I’m really happy for him that it has.
I gotta say I wasn’t sure that his first fight with Faber would be a success but following his fight with Garcia I really think he will pull out the win with Urijah this time too.
Its definately not an easy fight for either of them but they are both so well rounded I see it being a real war. Can’t wait for this fight. I’ll definately be rootig for Brown on this one.
by Ca$z on May 18, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I enjoyed the interview and I look forward to seeing more of Mike Brown in the future. I know he is a veteran with a lot of fights under his belt, but I have to admit, the only fights of his I think I have seen are Faber n Garcia fights. So its hard for me to try n analyze this match up.
I would have to go back and start watching footage on his last 7 or 8 fights. Basically, I really dont know just how good Brown is, but I look forward to finding out!
by john on May 18, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Brown is a beast, i think he will defeat Urijah “I think im bláck” Faber quite easily.
by Americana on May 17, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so, he seems to be a very cool guy. Not cocky, just a great hard working fighter. How can you not pull for this guy?
by jk358 on May 17, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brown is the best. Humble with a great skill set.
by William W. on May 17, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Derek Bolender is a staff writer for InsideFights.com, as well as a syndicated writer to FoxSports and CBSSports. Look for future articles from him on MMAmania.com.”
Didn’t this guy use to fight in the UFC durin’ the early days? Hehehe!
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on May 17, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown is a tough dude, but not the most intelligent fighter we’ve seen. if he gets past faber again i don’t see him holding the belt for long. Torres would kick his ass by the way.
by spitforce on May 17, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dont know about that thered be a big strength advantage and a definite power advantage to brown. torres wins the stand up hands down but if brown clips him he might get dropped.
btw. brown is going to knock faber out in the second
by Clinton Jackson (formerly Jared) on May 17, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For many weeks i imagined another massive ko but i am gonna say in the first after a big slam- GNP stoppage.
by NameNotRequired on May 17, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spit Force, Brown might not be articulate, but he’s certainly smart enough, apparently he was hard working athlete/scholar. This guys brutally tough, as much as I like the way Faber fights.. Brown will beat him.
“Anyone Got the ODDS on Faber VS Brown?
by DAVE A on May 17, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good read. Unlike most of those that post comments here (myself included), Brown seems like a classy dude.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on May 17, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i would have like to have known how bad he was hurt after the faber fight. i dont think he could have fought much longer if he hadnt taken faber out.
by shadfu on May 17, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont know man.. brown is a pretty tough dood~
i think he could have finished the duration of the bout..
his cardio isn’t a question.. just like his heart..
~brown via 1st round ko.. he wants this!
by stinky~fingers on May 17, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMHO, Urijah could win this time around. He’s just made that “mistake” because he’s never faced someone of Brown’s caliber. But that is only a possibility because sleepin’ on Brown could be fatal. He’s one nitty-gritty mofo so Faber has lots of things to worry about comin’ into this fight.
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on May 17, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MTB is a total badass, great read. I wanna see him fight Jose Aldo something fierce. That would be a sick sick fight.
by medecine balls on May 17, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This one is a very unpredictable fight!
by JoeDaniel on May 17, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I met Mike once in Columbus this year and also in Chicago. Both times he was mingling with the fans, having casual conversation, taking photos and signing autographs while a lot of other fighters were hanging back and staying away from the fans. Definitely became a fan after meeting him in person. The man has DOMINATED his last two fights. He was tossing Faber around and seemed much stronger than him before he landed the knockout punch. Gotta go with Brown on this one.
by Greg on May 17, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah hes a real genuine guy, and anyone who still throws leather like he was with a broken rib is obviously a tough dude
by medecine balls on May 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve gotten to meet Mike on a couple of occasions as well; first in Chicago for WEC 40 and then again in Monteral for UFC 97. Both times, he was a class act. He was posing for pictures, talking to fans, and seemed like he enjoyed being there, not like he was just there because he had an obligation. In fact, in both cases, he was forced by promoters to leave, otherwise he probably would have stayed longer. Mike Brown will knock Urijah out again, no doubt!
by YouveGotGold on May 18, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rooting for Brown all the way on this way. He’s a tough guy, humble guy. Hope he pulls it off.
by robotplague on May 17, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the read fellas. Mike Brown is indeed the genuine and down to earth guy that he appears to be. Just a solid dude.
For the record I’m not related to former UFC-er Jerry Bohlander haha
by Derek Bolender on May 17, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny, before the First Faber/brown fight everyone picked Faber and loved him. He got knocked out due to faber doing a stupid spinning punch. He got hit by a strong brown plus all of his momentum as well. Faber is still the same fighter he was only now he is more hungry then ever. Although I think brown is a classy guy, faber will pick him apart and prove he one of the best in the business.
by JJKID on May 18, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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