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Raising Cain: An MMAmania.com interview exclusive with Cain Velasquez

Forget everything you ever knew about heavyweight fighters in the UFC. The days of beer bellies and pear-shaped goliaths that once made a spectacle of the most watched weight class in all of combat sports are mercifully, coming to an end. This isn't MMA. This is MMA 2.0.

This is Cain Velasquez.

Velasquez joins a frightening new class of heavyweights that includes Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin -- men who are not just fighters, but seasoned and accomplished athletes. Armed with decorated resumes in amateur wrestling and blessed with the strength and power of a small locomotive, they bring a style and intensity that for the most part, was rarely seen outside of the smaller weight classes.

The undefeated blue-chip prospect will represent that class when he locks horns with mixed martial arts veteran Heath Herring at UFC 99 from the Lanxess Arena in Cologne, Germany, on June 13.

"The Texas Crazy Horse" has done time with some of the world's best, including Fedor Emelianenko and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. He recently survived a three round drubbing against Brock Lesnar at UFC 87 last August.

It's not unreasonable to think that a win over Herring might land Velasquez a spot in the top ten -- even while he's preparing for another unstoppable force this May: The birth of his baby daughter, Coral Love Velasquez, who arrived earlier today into the hands of the heavyweight superstar and his girlfriend Michelle Borquez.

We were fortunate enough to grab a few moments with Velasquez before he became a proud Papa. He gave us the dirt on everything from his upcoming war with Herring, his opinion on the best heavyweight in the world and the one submission he can't wait use in an upcoming fight.

Take a look.

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Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): You're a former two time All-American collegiate wrestler from Arizona State. You're also a junior college national champion from Iowa Central Community College. Tell us about your wrestling base and how it relates to MMA.

Cain Velasquez: Wrestling is a great pedigree and base for MMA. Wrestling has made me very mentally strong, conditioned me really well for MMA and given me phenomenal balance. As a lot of people know, it allows you to dictate where the fight goes. If you want to keep it standing it lets you do that. And, if you want to take your opponent to the ground, wrestling gives you the ability to do that. It depends on who your opponent is -- if you think you can exploit his weakness standing or on the ground.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Speaking of the Arizona State days, your former teammate Ryan Bader is coming off his first UFC win. You have to be pretty proud of that guy. What is your relationship like these days?

Cain Velasquez: We communicate really well. I've spent time training down at Arizona Combat Sports with those guys. Before my fight with Jake O'Brien, Ryan actually came out to California to train with me for that. I'm friends with those guys over there. C.B. Dolloway is another great guy there. It's harder with the distance, but after fights or on vacation, we'll all get together for a week and catch up with each other's lives. It's good to have a tight knit group of friends like that.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): If your pedigree is your wrestling, how did you get so good at knocking people out? All your wins inside the Octagon are by first or second round T(KO).

Cain Velasquez: I owe that all to my coaches at AKA. I have been here for about two and a half years and working really hard on my stand up. During that time, I found myself being drawn to the stand up part of the game more than anything. I've gotten really comfortable with all aspects of stand up, whether it's working my clinch, boxing or working the leg kicks. Wrestling has turned into my insurance card, and when I need it, it'll be there for me, ready to go.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Turning to some of other UFC Heavyweights: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin and yourself are all big, strong wrestlers, capable of knocking people out. What is going to set you apart from those guys when you fight each other inside the cage?

Cain Velasquez: For one, I'm going to have to fight a smarter fight. I'm a little smaller than those two. Lesnar steps into the Octagon at about 280 pounds; Carwin around 260 pounds. I come in at 240 pounds.

I want to continue to improve on my defense, my head movement. They're going to be tough fights and great fights for the fans to see. I think my Muay Thai and leg kicks can also play a big role. Obviously throwing leg kicks in the first round is not smart but it's something that I can really utilize in the later rounds to both score points and look to finish the fight.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Tell us about your time at American Kickboxing Academy and what made you choose to train there over all the other top training camps out there.

Cain Velasquez: My college wrestling coach was actually connected to AKA. When I told him I wanted to transition to MMA, he told me to finish my degree and finish out that year of wrestling and he would put me in touch with the right people.

Obviously I am happy with how quickly they have turned me into a complete mixed martial artist. Having a great relationship with your coaches is the key to your success and I've been fortunate to have great coaches who I could trust throughout the process of transitioning into the sport. AKA is the place for me.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): I have to ask you about a particular incident that happened a while back. Jon Fitch, one of your training partners at AKA, was cut for a few days by the UFC when he refused to sign away his likeness over the "Undisputed" video game. Do you have anything to say about that incident?

Cain Velasquez: I don't have too much to say about that. That was all part of the negotiation process between Dana and our managers. Our managers handle all of that and are there to fight for us and try and get us the best deal possible. Stuff like that happens and you just have to work through it. I'm just focused on fighting for the UFC right now.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Strikeforce has a great relationship with AKA and is really starting to emerge as a serious organization in mixed marital arts. If you ever became a free agent, for whatever reason, could you see yourself fighting for Strikeforce out of San Jose, California?

Cain Velasquez: It all depends on how things play out. Right now, I'm fighting for the best organization in MMA and I don't see myself leaving anytime soon. They have the best fighters and those are the guys I want to fight. Right now, I'm focused on one fight at a time and working my way toward a heavyweight title shot. It's always good to have options though.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Without giving too much away, what is the one area of your game you're working on the most right now?

Cain Velasquez: Right now I am still working on everything. I don't think I'm the best in the sport at one particular style. I still work on my wrestling, I love working on my stand up game and I'm also working on my jiu-jitsu. I want to be the most complete mixed martial artist I can be so I'm not leaving any stone unturned when it comes to that.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Speaking of your jiu-jitsu, if there was one submission you'd love to pull off inside the Octagon, which one would it be?

Cain Velasquez: With me and how I roll in practice, armbars are one of my favorite submissions. A lot of people might think with my style I could finish a fight with a rear naked choke, but I am all about the armbar, so watch out.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Since we haven't seen you go a full three rounds inside the cage, how is your conditioning?

Cain Velasquez: My conditioning is very good. I go five rounds in sparring. If I were to get a title shot this year, going all twenty-five minutes would be the least of my concerns. I train myself to go all out for the entire fight so I'm ready for that when it comes.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Who are some of the guys from both MMA past and present who you like to watch?

Cain Velasquez: I loved watching Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture when they were in their peak. That's when I really started getting into the sport. Randy, I really see him as a pioneer. And it's hard not to enjoy watching a guy like George St. Pierre and appreciate what he's doing.

I like watching those explosive wrestlers with KO power as well, guys like Dan Henderson and Rashad Evans. I've watched just about every UFC and every Fight Night so I'm a fan of what a lot of guys are doing out there.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Do you think that Fedor Emelianenko is the greatest heavyweight in MMA currently fighting -- or does he need to come over to the UFC and prove that?

Cain Velasquez: Fedor for sure. He was one my favorites growing up, being a heavyweight. He destroyed everybody; you can't take anything away from him and what he's accomplished. If the UFC signed Fedor, I would be honored to fight him. I'm here to fight the best so fighting Fedor would be the ultimate thing to do.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Guys like Lesnar, Carwin and yourself are making it hard for guys like Couture (who walk around at 230 pounds or less) to compete in the heavyweight division. What are your thoughts on the new breed of heavyweight; getting bigger yet staying just as fast or faster?

Cain Velasquez: It's certainly getting harder. I actually don't see myself as one of the big guys. Like I said, I walk around at 240 pounds while Lesnar walks in around 280 and Carwin around 260. I'm used to wrestling with the bigger guys though so that helps. But guys at 225 or 230 pounds are at a disadvantage so they'll have to figure out how to compete or go to a different weight class.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Do you have any plans on adding some more weight to your frame, some more muscle, or is 240 pounds the perfect fighting weight for you?

Cain Velasquez: For me, 240 is my target weight. Lifting weights, 240 is about as big as I can (or) want to get. And if I got any bigger, I could lose some of my speed. I think with my body type, I'm meant to stay at 240.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Being an athlete is what MMA 2.0 is all about. You can't just be good at MMA, you have to be an athlete. In five or ten years, do you see guys that would have gone on to be 300 pound lineman competing in mixed martial arts?

Cain Velasquez: I can see that happening for sure. As far as changing the weight classes, I don't see that yet. I see the them keeping the heavyweight division at 265 pounds. I could see them adding a weight class in between light heavyweight and heavyweight for those guys at 225 we talked about. It all depends on how much talent they have in a proposed weight class. As far as them adding a super heavyweight division (300 pounds and over), I just don't see that happening. Guys will have to cut the weight.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): For a while, the UFC heavyweight division was seen as one of the weakest in MMA. Where do you see the heavyweight division heading with guys like yourself, Carwin, Dos Santos and others?

Cain Velasquez: The heavyweight division is just going to get better and better. It's not all the way there yet, but the UFC is doing a good job identifying talent and getting the best heavyweights in here that they can. In a couple years, this division is going to be so tough to compete in at the highest level.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): In your opinion, is mixed martial arts stealing the [marketability] of 'heavyweight' from boxing? Boxing and heavyweight used to be one in the same but the talent there seems to be on a significant decline as of late.

Cain Velasquez: I don't see MMA stealing the [marketability] away completely, but MMA has really taken strides in the last few years and is definitely starting to overshadow its combat sports counterpart. MMA is new and exciting to a lot of people but I think when things settle in, both sports will have to share the term with each other.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Talk to us about the opportunity to fight in Germany and fighting a guy like Heath Herring, who has fought some of the toughest guys the sport has to offer. What do you expect for that fight?

Cain Velasquez: Germany (UFC 99) will be a great show. The UFC always puts together a great event when they go overseas. Heath Herring is tough as nails and he fights hard. I expect a war against Heath. I don't predict T(KO)s, I'm just going to go in there and take the fight to him and see where it goes. The fans are going to get a great show, I can guarantee that.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): I hear you're expecting your first child with your girlfriend this month. First, congratulations Cain "Daddy." What's it going to be like being both a mixed martial arts fighter and father of a new baby girl?

Cain Velasquez: It's very exciting. We are just so happy to be able to have her here in our life soon. It's like having a Christmas present that you can't open yet. We can't wait to have her here. It's been a long process. It will be hard to adjust at first with my schedule and practice. I know I'll want to be home spending time with her, missing her when I'm at practice and wanting to rush home. I'll adjust to the schedule though and will keep my eye on the prize, which is supporting my family though my mixed martial arts.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Time for Shout-outs:

Cain Velasquez: I want to thank my family, my training camp, AKA, my manager and my Olympic coach, and say "Hi" to all the fans and "thanks" for their support. Enjoy my upcoming fight on June 23.

Brian Oswald (MMAmania.com): Thanks again Cain. We all look forward to your UFC 99 fight and good luck with your newest addition to the Velasquez family.

Cain Velasquez: Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Brian Oswald is an associate editor for Inside Fights, as well as a syndicated writer for Fox Sports. Look for future exclusive articles from him on MMAmania.com.

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Herring has a great chin and will be a good test but I’m takin’ Cain UD

by McArthur on May 6, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed… I hate to do it, but MMA math leads me to believe Cain will take him down, pass his guard and destroy him.

by BNF on May 6, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have liked to know who he thinks he wouldnt match up as good against.

by c-war on May 6, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I’m gonna catch some flack for this but I’m taking Herring, by TKO, I don’t know which round. Time for THC to catch a break, he deserves it. Yea yea, I know he won’t ever hold the belt, that Cain is an up and comer and that I should be rooting for him because he’s a potential contender and legitimate threat to the HW champ, but I don’t care, I’m rooting for Herring.

by O damn he got caught on May 6, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know who I will root for, or who is even the favorite for that matter. when Herring is in shape he is tough to deal with. He is very hard to submit, and tough as hell! Only times I have seen him broken were against Fedor and Cro Cop in his prime with that nasty liver kick.

People seem to really like Cain in this fight…I think its such a close fight that offering a prediction is meaningless…Thats how tough I think Herring is, because we all know what a stud Cain is…But Herring does not get much respect. He is a legit tough guy…Look at the punishment he took from Brock…No one can tell me that Mir would be able to take that kind of punishment and make it to a decision.

by john on May 6, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw: GOod interview Brian.

Add Cain to the huge list of fighters that say Fedor is the greatest. hahahaha I couldnt resist!

by john on May 6, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sad that herring has become a chris lytle type of fighter. I mean this is a guy who was half of Herring-Nog I, one of the best and absolute sickest matches ever. But he’s great for that role. It would be great if other divisions had a rugged veteran who use to compete at the highest level to test out new prospects.

by NameNotRequired on May 6, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herring is SUPER tough, I’ve always respected and liked him. His haircuts are pretty douchy, but whatever. Unfortunately, Herring isn’t that talented. His experience and heart make him a tough opponent for Cain, but Cain will keep it standing and wear him down with strikes.

by Jeremyjackson on May 6, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herring is perfectly capable of winning this fight, I’m thinking by UD. He may not have been a champ, but he is a very seasoned fighter who knows how to survive when he gets into trouble. I think experience wins out here because I don’t see Cain can KOing Herring.

by DSmith on May 6, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dsmith: YOu should change your name to “Queen of the Maniacs”! lol

YOU gotta love a cool chic wit mma knowledge around here~!

by john on May 6, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got it! j/k.. you’re a nut case.

by Queen of the Maniacs (formerly DSmith) on May 6, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahah! I love it!

by john on May 7, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how many other woman are on this site posing as Men? I hear that JermeyJackson’s real name is Jasmine! lol, you my boy JJ, I had to take a shot at you!

HOw many woman have we had on this site? I can only think of 2:
DSmith and Sara, who both have some pretty impressive knowledge on the sport!

WAR all woman who are big fans of the sport and dont just watch the fights to look at guys bodies!

by john on May 7, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Justagirl as well.

by Jeremyjackson on May 7, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

herring is gonna wrestle him for 3 rds and pull out a snoozer.
my fights to hvyweight belts would of been:
Cain vs Dos Santos
Heering vs Carwin
Gonzaga vs Barry
Couture vs Noregia

have them fight in a month then figure out the next PPV who will face the winner of brock/mir

by mikeybear on May 6, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got heath tko. cain could pull out a boring ud on top but i hope heath pulls this one out. He’s got serious heart staying in with lesnar after such a beating

by markg on May 6, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Kongo?

by c-war on May 6, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT ABOUT HIM

by SLEEPER on May 7, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian, you should have asked him if that ‘Brown Pride’ tattoo is the result of losing a bet, or is he just fond of taking dumps.

I think after Velasquez beats Herring, a fight with Dos Santos would be cool… maybe a mini #1 contender tourney where the winner of that fight could take on the winner of Carwin/Kongo (a fight I’d like to see Joe Silva set up).

by Jeremyjackson on May 6, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I should get used to someone taking about that tattoo in every single thread that has to do with Cain.

by BNF on May 6, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah…that’s pretty funy.

I think Cain has a good road ahead of him. He seems to be the real deal, and I enjoy his fights.
No easy win, but I’ll go with Cain in this one.

by Jrandolph on May 6, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fight announcement:

Gonzaga vs Chris Tuchscherer likely at UFC 102.

by Jeremyjackson on May 6, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I saw that earlier but had no idea who his damn opponent is.

Im burnt out. This will be the first wednesday night that Im not going to go party. Get to sit in and finally catch an episode of TUF, instead of having to watch re-runs at crackhead hours.

by john on May 6, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris who?…Suppose they need to get Gonzo back on track.

by RobH86 on May 6, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If his tattoo said White instead of Brown he would probably be in jail right now.

by lolop4345 on May 6, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad but true

by O damn he got caught on May 6, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if it said gay pride my wife would be paying him to decorate our house.

by James S on May 6, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

lolop4345 makes his obligatory “white man can’t get a fair shake” post. Seems to be the only thing you ever bother posting.

by Jeremyjackson on May 7, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has got a point tho

by Nick J on May 7, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

People don’t go to jail for tattoos. Cain has a Brown Pride tattoo and he’s not racist, show me a white guy with a White Pride tattoo who’s not racist and I’ll agree there is a double standard.

by moose on May 15, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cain vs. Carwin
Kongo vs. Carwin
Cain vs. Courture
Gonzaga vs. Kongo

by delldog on May 6, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I see Cain taking this fight for sure but Herring will be a test for him.

by DL92 on May 6, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Cain is now a proud poppa! Just had a baby girl this morning.

by fitch on May 6, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

cool…you ready for Thiago?

by McArthur on May 7, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Cain does. He is one of my favorite fighters in the UFC.

by Bill Maher on May 6, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I would love to see Cain against AA or Tim Sylvia I think he would win against either one?

by Beaver on May 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

i don’t see any way that Cain would get past AA….where were you thinking he would win that fight?

by TheLastProdigiousRushingAxeMurderingEmperor on May 6, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

AA would destroy Cain, their striking isn’t even comparable. Arlovski is the most talented boxer in MMA, with faster hands and one-punch KO power. Maybe one day Cain would give AA a fight, but right now it wouldn’t even be close.

by Jeremyjackson on May 6, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good interview. Cain seems like a good guy and well spoken, which is weird b/c Bader and Dollaway seem like douches, but I guess there no accounting for taste.

by RyGuy on May 7, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t fine Bader and Dollaway come across bad, although CB does come off as a tranny and Bader is his boyfriend, but other then that they seem ok.

by Toad on May 7, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool interview Brian. It’s gonna be a good fight, my guess is Velasquez proves that he’s ready to be a top 5 heavyweight.

by Matt Harandi on May 7, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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