They are subjective, that is exactly why we are commenting and disagreeing! WTF are you talking about?
BTW, Bloody Elbow is a good site, are you going to laugh because I said that?

no, i was being loyal and joking. it’s actually mania without as many comments! I’ve never commented there but read the (lack of) comments before.
Thats my point, if something is debatable, you need a panel. kinda like the coaches or ap polls in college football

people ranked too high: barnet,rogerio nog, okami, shields,condit other than that everything else looks decent

For the haters that continue to say Fedor only fights cans. He has beaten 3 of the members on that top 10 list (nog twice). nO other heavyweight on that list holds 3 or more wins against other fighters on that current top 10 list….hate on!

john get fedors dick out of your mouth! noone has even contested fedors spot at #1 get over it

These are meta rankings, so I think its kind of a consensus thing. I think they suck personally.

If anyone wants to get in good with the BE guys, kiss their ass, make lame UFC event posters, and don’t slam Kimbo Slice by any means.

It’s kind of funny that they bitch about not getting any press credentials when their whole blog is mainly cut and paste pieces. They never even do interviews and they want to bitch about not getting press credentials from the UFC. And Im talking about interviews for the blog itself, not some lame ass radio show in D.C. that gets a -0.0001 share. Laughable.

Again, its just my opinion based on fact. Lets see which one of their hacks takes time from their oh so busy cut and pasting and comes and rebuts me this time.

“sigh”

john get fedors dick out of your mouth! noone has contested fedors spot at #1 get over it

the middleweight ranking is straight up horrible!..
how Leites, Santiago, Maia, Belfort are ahead of Rich Franklin is a mystery..
get that overrated Lawler’s ass back to UFC and we’ll see how good he is!.. last time i checked Ed Herman beat Scott Smith, so beating guys like him shouldn’t be all that..

El Mexi. you said it best.
they suck dick over there for sure. Mania is where its at.

this is the only mma site that i’ve been to that we can have (sometimes) intelligent conversations about MMA/UFC. mania has loyal members. because mania is the shit.

back to the rankings: they suck badly!
I’m not even going to go into the one’s i think are wrong b/c the list would be too long.

MANIA START YOUR OWN RANKING SYSTEM. ALL US MEMBERS CAN CONVERSE ABOUT IT AND WE’LL PUT TOGETHER A REAL RANKING!

-peace

Mexi hit it right on the money. Currently I don’t know of any site that has as well of a forum as MMAmania. BE being one of the worst of them. These rankings are so messed up its not even funny. Everyone is hesitant to take Chuck of their top ten and where is Rich!? I could go all day and pick apart these rankings like I’m sure many of us could but at the end of the day your right and these rankings are subjective. I say just let the fighters fight and let bloggers pretend they have a good ranking system.

masters you are right. just go check out the comments at cagepotato.com the worst comments EVER!

It’s a shit website. Who cares what they think?

and yeah, why is Yushin “No thunder” Okami in the # 2 spot?! Are you fu*kin’ kiddin’ me?!!? Fack that!

John, Anderson’s beat 3 of the top 10 in his weight class, 4 if you could the DQ loss to Okami where Okami was in la la land as a win (which I do, I guess I’m an a.silva nuthugger?)

GSP Holds 4 decisive victories over top 10 guys in his weight class. if you count 2 for the victories over Hughes, that’s 5 wins over 4 of the best.

Just say, may not be the best system.

Fedor’s legit though, for sure. But he could be a rock star if he was in the UFC. Endorsement deals and shit alone would go through the roof comparatively. look at GSP. fuckin’ guy’s everywhere.

Sylvia should be boxing groceries, not Ray Mercer.

He’d probably get TKO’d by a can of peas.

Jeremy-

LMAO.

Can anyone seriously explain to me why Josh Barnett is listed as #2 HW in all of these rankings? He’s listed #2 in WAMMA Lamma ding dong as well but I always figured that was a backhand to the face of the UFC and not really legitimate. Now another source has him as #2. What gives?

Yeah, these rankings are a joke. I think we could do a way better job of putting out rankings.

Nah, he actually is #6, Mir is just Dana’s tool. Dana wants to see Brock beat Frank to show that he was right for making Brock a quick champ. Brock should fo fought a little bit more before even being considered as a contender. NO RESPECT!!!

oops meant to say top 10…
It’s painful to see fighters higher ranked than fighters you know beats them for sure..

If Liddell is on that list with 4 losses out of 5 fights, then why isn’t Ortiz on that list when he just had a draw against Rashad and took Machida to a decision?..
Why isn’t Thiago Silva ahead of Chuck Liddell?..
Drew McFedries and James Irvin would knock him out, and almost Houston Alexander.. I don’t mean to be rude but that’s just a fact!

Thanks Rob for making me laugh! :-)

I don’t want to be mean RoB,I just love the way you still stick behind Houston and Tito,after all you’ve been thru yesterday!Keep up buddy

where the hell is rich franklin?

I will, I won’t lay down for anyone… that’s what being a fan means!.. I’m not standing up for Houston I just said that Chuck is so old now that he has no business on a list like that and he should be fighting the Houston’s of the sport..

sac: get rich Franklins cock out of your mouth! Wow, I finally just wrote a great post sac-style. THank your for your continous meaningless posts. you are such an asset to all the bloggers on this site!

Rob: I love you man…we usually agree on many subjects…but sorry to break it to you, but besides that Forrest Griffin debacle, Tito hasnt done a single thing in mma since the Ken shamrock trilogy, if that is even considered “an accomplishment”……..you can be a fan of any fighter you like and stick by them, but at least keep it real, and dont be diffusional about it…Tito even being mentioned close to the top 10 of the best division in the sport is simply laughable.

fOr example: I am a big fan of Allesio Sakara, but you dont hear me over-rating his skills and accomplishments.

Even better example: I love Kazushi Sakuraba FOREVER, you dont hear me calling him a top 10 middleweight….but that doesnt make me less of a sakuraba fan, it makes me realistic! Same scenario with Tito….used to be a top fighter, but fell off YEARS ago!

I dont know whats worst, TIto the fighter, or TIto the commentator! hahahahahaha

hahaha!.. =)
well, i’m just using the same logic as they are..
Jardine has lost to Houston, Wanderlei and Rampage?
Liddell has lost to Rampage, Shogun, Jardine, Rashad..
how is Tito different? he beat Forrest, beat Shammy (twice) although that doesn’t really count. lost to Liddell, drew with Rashad(basically a w with noticeable pain) and lost a UD to Machida!

Now, please tell me where you rank Liddell, Jardine Wanderlei and why!? this is a serious question, If you’re gonna say that Tito is nowhere near top ten!.. cause i’m looking at their records and their wins and losses, and the only thing different is that ppl likes to hate on him and Dana running around saying how bad he s*cks..

And this isn’t even about Tito this is a question that i’d like to ask for ppls view at the UFC and MMA in general..

Media’s bias fools everybody that’s just the way it goes..

Don’t forget that Liddell crushed Tito 2 times, so that makes it hard to place him above Chuck. If lil Nog can be at 8, then Chuck could actually be higher. Look how high Shogun jumped by beating Chuck. I don’t think anyone had Shogun top five, and I still wouldn’t have him top 5. It is a hard list to make though, because it is a stacked division.
I would maybe have it like this:

1. Rashad
2. Machida
3. Rampage
4. Griffin
5. Jardine
6. Shogun
7. Thiago Silva
8. Chuck
9. Wanderlei
10. Babalu
 * Luis Cane could be in there with 1 win over someone good.
That is just a guess, and I am sure many can be moved around.

rob: Im gonna keep it real. yOu know where I would rank Chuck and wandy? Not even on the damn list!

Chuck is far from the fighter he once was and should be immediately be removed from all top 10 lists (same goes for HUghes).

Wandy shouldnt be on thie list cause he is moving down to Middleweight.

1)Rampage
2)Rashad
3)Machida
4)Forrest
5)Shogun
6)Jardine
7)Babalu
8)Rogerio Nogueira
9)thigo Silva
10)luis Cane

Today: Rampage, Machida, and Rashad are clearly the best LHW’s on the planet. In my eyes they are pretty even, I give Rampage the top spot because his overall career accomplishments DWARF Rashad’s and Machida’s so thats the tie breaker. Following that same mind set Rashad is number 2 because although he only has 2 big wins (chuck,forrest), those 2 wins are better then Machida’s wins(thiago,tito).

tHis is about as real as I can possibly be, for crying out load I even ranked Forrest over Shogun, so you know Im keeping it real. Shogun in his top form is clearly the better fighter, but Shogun is still a big win or two away from erasing the memories of the lackluster performances caused by injuries.

HOnorable Mention:
matyushenko
winner of Ve4rra/Hammil
mOusasi will be in the top 10 as soon as they can find him someone decent to whoop on!

Your list isn’t really all that diffferent from mine. Mostly the same guys, just in different orders. I gave an honorable mention to Cane, and can’t argue too much with him being on your list. I just think he needs one big win. I still think Chuck should be in the top ten, and would lose Lil Nog.

John you and I both know that Jardine shouldn’t be ranked that high!.. Cane should be even higher on that list, he’s good! and the real Shogun beats Forrest no doubt.. A.Silva is a top ten LHW in reality too for sure! Jon Jones may be a top ten LHW too

It’s hard to say, but don’t come up and mention Hammill, Rich Franklin takes him.. and Mark Munoz was a given KO for anyone

no you are not the only one.. I am sick of hearing him commentate on almost every Card these days, wish he woul keep it real as he does in his interviews..

“I have personally rolled with him, and I can tell you that the guy is strong like a chimpanzee” I actually don’t mind Rogan, but is he all over a totally over rated Karo’s satchel? YES. I think he’s oven brought up Karo’s chimp strength when Karo wasn’t even fighting. Someone’s got a severe man crush.

Rob: I couldnt have said it better myself. If Rogan would keep it real the way he does when he is being interviewed, he would be the best commentator in all of pro sports!

True. Just because Karo could roll with Rogan doesn’t make him a great fighter. Rogan also brings up his throws all the time, which I haven’t seen Karo use effectively in a long time.

I was unaware that Arlovski has improved so much in the last couple of years.

Tim Sylvia 1-3
AA 4-1 (loss to Fedor)

The only knock agaisn’t AA is his glass jaw and the fact he want to be a boxer. Maybe they should box each other? What say you? :)

ironically enough the knock on AA in the Fedor fight was that he didn’t stick to his boxing which he was dominating with, and instead of that tried to be flashy with a flying knee.

he did not dominate with his boxing watch the fight on mma linker. he hit fedor maybe 6 times the entire fight and got KO’d. Fedor was never hurt. Don’t be a lemming. Freddie Roach and company repeated that nonsense over n over after the fight. watch it again. Fedor was winning the entire time aside from about 9 seconds leading up to win he KO’s AA.

ok, in my opinion AA was winning the whole time.. cause he kept moving forward and hit Fedor while Fedor couldn’t hit him back…
you know a fight can be won by decision so hurting someone isn’t always necessary

hatteras,you are crazy if you think Arlovski was not winning the first round,the reason he lost was because he got arrogant and was trying to put an exclamation point on that fight.Go follow your own advise and watch it again,Fedor was looking stupid when he was trying to hit Arlovski,he would miss by 3 feet,he did a little bit of damage in the clinch ,but that is it,even john would admit Arlovski was winning ,but it does not matter because Fedor got the w