Anderson Silva (not Thiago) vs Forrest Griffin booked for UFC 101
by MMAmania.com on Apr 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT
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Fresh off back-to-back underwhelming -- albeit winning performances -- UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva will return to the 205-pound division in search of better competition against former light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin at the Wachovia Center in Philadelphia, Pa., on August 8, according to Yahoo!Sports.com.
Griffin was previously booked to take on Thiago Silva in the co main event; however, UFC President Dana White made an executive decision to insert the "Spider" instead.
Here's his reasoning:
"Forrest loved the idea and said he’d do it right away, and Anderson told me he would fight anyone I wanted him to fight, no matter who it is. So we got the deal.... I talked to (a reporter) the day after (UFC 97) and that’s when I started working on this. At the end of the day, it’s my job to put on the kinds of fights that you in the media will like and that the fans will want to see. Silva and Griffin is the kind of fight that even other fighters are going to go crazy for. That’s what I do for a living. I as a fan didn’t like what I saw (at UFC 97) and I wasn’t kidding when I said I wanted to walk out of the building because of how embarrassed I am. But I can tell you this: I’m going to be counting the days until this fight."
Griffin -- the light heavyweight winner of the inaugural season of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) -- was suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) until June 27, 2009, because of a broken left hand that he suffered in the second round of his fight against Rashad Evans at UFC 92 "The Ultimate 2008″ last December.
He apparently needed to have pins surgically inserted into the hand to expedite the healing process. The good news is that he has already been cleared to resume punching and training full-time to be prepared for a healthy return in August.
The bad news? He now has to do it against the feared Brazilian striker who more than likely won't be in a good mood when he steps inside the Octagon on fight night.
Indeed, Silva will likely feel the need to prove himself worthy of being considered the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world when he arrives in the "City of Brotherly Love." Apparently, a record-setting nine straight UFC wins -- seven of which were all stoppages that never went longer than two rounds -- is not good enough these days.
That's because Silva has baffled his fans, as well as White, in his two most recent outings. He earned a bizarre third round technical knockout win over Patrick Cote after the Canadian's knee imploded and then followed that up with a boring unanimous decision win over Thales Leites at UFC 97: "Redemption" earlier this month.
For more on UFC 101, including rumored bouts and all other event-related news, click here. John -- and the rest of the Maniacs -- feel free to rejoice in the comments section below.
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its cool but i think i would rather see forrest fight thiago and silva face a better lhw one more aggresive in the striking maybe wandy or shogun.
by roy on Apr 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
“Indeed, Silva will likely feel the need to prove himself worthy of being considered the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world when he arrives in the "City of Brotherly Love." Apparently, a record-setting nine straight UFC wins — seven of which were all stoppages that never went longer than two rounds — is not good enough these days.”
Not all of us Mania. Only the uninformed…
by OJR on Apr 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Well we don’t have to wonder if Forrest will make it a fight. It’s on bitches!!!
by DSmith on Apr 28, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Go Forrest. I want to see Anderson get beat, but I’m not sure if Forrest is the guy to do it. And if Forrest wins, automatic title shot? Or sidelines till after Rampage gets his shot? And what’s Thiago Silva’s next match going to be?
I will not count Forrest out.
by Synyster on Apr 28, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF?! It should be “thiago” Silva first, not “Anderson”! Why mess things up MMA God?!? Well I guess MMA destiny is all up to you. Ah what the heck, WAR SPIDER!!
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
This matchup is stupid. Not competitive at all. They know stupid forrest is gonna go out there and throw down and get killed. He didn’t have a shot against T and now he’s just a name that they can serve up as a sacrifice to salvage silva’s P4P status and have some interest in a A. Silva card.
by NameNotRequired on Apr 28, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
cant wait to see this fight all anderson said after the thales fight was you cant fight someone who doesnt want to fight well hee ya go WAR GRIFFIN this guy doesnt stop coming and is not scared of anyone maybe thiago silva will get jardine only 205er without a fight or possible the winner of irvin mcfederies just thinking outloud
by TAY on Apr 28, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
or didnt think of this but what about shogun thiago??
by TAY on Apr 28, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. This is going to be incredible. I cannot wait!
by RyanHobbs on Apr 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
shogun/thiago sounds good to me, no way that will be a boring fight
by brendan on Apr 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Forrest Griffin lover here….Forrest wins by 3 rounds of a brutal beat down. I dont think A. Silva has a chance in hell to beat him. I hope by this time, TUF haters will start giving Forrest his props.
by c-war on Apr 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
c-war i got forrest winning this fight too. i dont think it will be a brutal beat down by any means. i see forrest keeping his distance w. leg kicks and jab. dont be suprised to see forrest take him down. forrest is big and i think thats where he needs this fight to be and i think he can do it.
by Phil on Apr 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
brendan-I saw on another website that Thiago Silva and Keith Jardine are going to clash at UFC 102.
by RyanHobbs on Apr 29, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw that too. There better be another big fight added to 102 (Rampage vs Machida/Evans perhaps?) or that card is very weak.
by Jeremyjackson on Apr 29, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
My apologies John. You nailed this one on the head.
by Dragon on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn!! this should be very interesting. When did John call this one? Must be phsycic
by belfort_fan on Apr 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
John, you ever see your name so many times??? Props doood…
Oh yeah, superb matchup.
by DJ on Apr 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
OMFG this is a great card!!! Keeps getting better and better for us in Philly
by ja434650 on Apr 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont do this crap for the credit…I post stuff like that to give us more to talk about. Its a shame that I have to put up with Flea’s like Mania and Jesse just to get wonderful news like this across!
The issue is not your scoops – you seem to take it personal when we don’t run with them. Unlike you, we have a responsibility to make sure there is a rock solid source before going to print. I can’t go live with “John from his cell phone” – even when you’re right.
-JH
by john on Apr 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
much props john. much props. glad you got an awesome card to see in philly
by Andrew on Apr 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
John … Are you serious? Get over yourself. We both know where that rumor started. Too bad everyone else doesn’t.
by MMAmania on Apr 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
doesnt sound like a rumor to me….Dont know where you heard it, I read it on my phone as a text message that I still have in my phone and would be happy to forward it to my boys PhilQny, Kevin or anyone else that has my number or wants to see the message.
Do you Mania, I dont feel like talking to you anymore about it…Its lame, all I care about is the FACT that I will get to see Anderson vs. Silva live in Person followed by BJ vs. Kenny…and even you CANT SPOIL that for me!
Peace HOmmie!
by john on Apr 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
mania went out like a bitch,you said john was sucking cock and you can’t take being called a flea?
by wendall on Apr 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
NOt bad for my 1st UFC event live in person….now if you guys will let me be, I want to see how many times in a row I can possibly whack off at the thought of getting to see this fight live…Peace Maniacs!
by john on Apr 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what I say Wenddell…the furthest I ever take it is calling someone an idiot or silly…. Its cool, they sling it at me all the time, difference is, I can take it…..them, NOT SO MUCH!
by john on Apr 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
McAurther: why the FOCK would you even say such a thing? lol…if someone gets hurt…Im GUnning for you Brother! lol
by john on Apr 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor’s cock in John’s mouth was a joke, which most readers here, including John, I think would get. And I get called way worse than flea every day around here. It doesn’t bother me and it wasn’t the reason I responded to John. I’ll leave it it that. This is indeed lame.
by MMAmania on Apr 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
True OJR!! Good call after all John…I can’t see any way possible that fight won’t tip the scales bro…unless its a flash KO
by McArthur on Apr 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
MAINA 0 – JOHN 1…john i dont know why ur not on this team for info u seem to have all the big news before any1 else has a sniff of it.
3 CHEERS FOR JOHN
HIP HIP HORAH
by ruan-fiy on Apr 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn it McArthur!!! Shhhhh with the injury talk.
by DSmith on Apr 28, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone even read mania’s reply?
“We both know where that rumor started. Too bad everyone else doesn’t.”
Maybe there’s some validity to the other side of this??
by Bongwater on Apr 28, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry, you guys will receive an imaginary award for awarding us with your juicy scoops! Bottom line, thanks guys for all the info!!
by Syd[a.k.a. "the Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I read it, I don’t have anything against john and I also trust that Mania knows what he’s talking about. I just want my MMA news. I don’t see why it has to be any bigger of a deal than it is. I really don’t need to know anything further personally.
by DSmith on Apr 28, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I think that there are only 2 fights for
Anderson at middleweight. One being a superfight with GSP and the other one being a rematch with Yushin Okami. Other than those, I think that he should vacate the title and move up to 205. Should he lose at 205, Dana can always put a spin on it saying that Anderson Silva dominated his own weight class and only lost after moving up to compete against bigger challengers that were more suited for the 205 division. If Anderson lost to GSP, that would just give GSP more credibility for being the p4p best. If Anderson lost to Yushin….that would be bad for him. I could see that fight being a snoozefest though. Maybe that one shouldn’t happen. haha. As far as any middleweight challengers, I think that Yushin is the only one that really makes sense.
by RyanHobbs on Apr 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
john, you get to watch anderson vs silva? i though it was silva vs griffin lol
by AzCombat on Apr 29, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I got Anderson… he will take this one and then fight for the LHW title (as long as it isnt Machida)
by ---Caesar--- on Apr 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida will hold the belt for a long time and Silva won’t challenge for it.
by BulletproofTiger on Apr 28, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Its such a joke how he wont fight Machida, its a business for f sakes, leave the friendship in brazil and let your hands fly in vegas.
by BMO on Apr 28, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree… I hate this “I wont fight certain people” BS!
by ---Caesar--- on Apr 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree Caesar. I’d fight my brother for a 100 grand!
by brac on Apr 29, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Common set him up with someone he will potentically LOSE TO, for f sakes. I wanna see Rampage vs Silva
by BMO on Apr 28, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
kevin and john-
Count me in for the Philly trip. Its a lock.
kevin – I resent the email to the mania address.
john – BIG props to you. And the other posters who gave you sh!t should pucker up…
by OJR on Apr 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
alright guys, just won my trip in a poker tournament. kinda coincidence that john texted me while at the final table.
kevjack115@yahoo.com anyone interested 100% in going and being in the luxury box at 101, email me. we got 6 or so spots available. I will be calling the wachovia rep after lunch and sending an email out to you guys after that!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Congrat.Kev,Two win in a row! Keep it up and i,might ask you lessons!
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I do ok buddy. Last week was just a cash, today was first. either way it’s nice though. net 1000 today, my trip to 101 is paid for!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO This match up is retarded!!
But Congrats To Kevin and John and who ever else is able to go to this event live for this crad is shaping up beautiful,IMO better then 100.
by NM on Apr 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a safe match. Forrest is a huge name (TUF) and has no power!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
sent email out 5 minutes ago, got 6 definite yeses already. you in mania?!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
not 100%. the event isn’t even confirmed. I talked to the sales rep twice so far. he says 4-6k. That was before this fight was announced. I’m figuring no more than 500 each, which includes food/drink. I’m leaving a deposit with my own money to be sure we get first right of refusal for the suites. These are mid level suites, not nose bleed boxes!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Dsmith, today I played in hayward at the palace club. you in my area?
mania, you in on the suite for 101?
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No I’m in the south. I didn’t know if you were playing online or live. There aren’t any casinos in my state (moonshine and nascar but no casino- unreal) Congrats though.
by DSmith on Apr 28, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Where are you from DSmith? I’m from TN and I feel your pain. I’m on FullTilt quite a bit.
by Diceman on Apr 28, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Originally from CT but I moved to Birmingham, AL last summer. I love the weather, the people are lovely but everything else sucks ass down here. I used to be on fulltilt EVERYDAY. I’ve cut it down quite a bit though.
by DSmith on Apr 28, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont like Forrest, but at least he wont let the fight go to a D. No way Silva can avoid a fight here.
by The5thBeatle on Apr 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh before I forget… all hale the almighty john.
by DSmith on Apr 28, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys ever hear that song, “Jizz in my pants”? Yup, that’s what just happened.
by MikeD on Apr 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So john gets Silva vs Forrest, and now we get Jardine vs. Silva in Portland. THAT SUCKS!!!
by LJ on Apr 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
with a win, where does this put either of the fighters after the fight?
by sac165 on Apr 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
hopefully against Vera. People are making out hes now B level….nah bollox. Vera will tear up from now on.
by Insain on Apr 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Na Brandon is done…he keeps talking about being changed and evolving – stil to see it.. his nextfight will tell us what we needa kno – if hes a legit top tier fighter anymore!!
by Randy for Couture on Apr 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Vera will show you what the meaning of a B-level fighter is. He’s like B+ right now to me… Hehe!
by Syd[a.k.a. "the Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Increase Silva’s stock with the fans or get Griffin a title shot
by IrishKev on Apr 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like Griffin,but surely taking for him,for this one!
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Another time OJ,i’m,only pulling for Griffin cause i’m still piss off,and i would,like to see the spider get smash.But i’m realistic and i know that Griffin s..ks.!
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont’t know OJR…Forest a HUGE LHW!! Haven’t seen Anderson deal with that much size differencial as of yet…it’ll be interesting to say the least
by McArthur on Apr 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Alpha and McArthur-
I actually like Griffin. I just think that Silva’s dynamic offense will shut him down. PLUS Griffin loves to bang and if he tries to leg kick Silva…
Whoooo Wheee…Fireworks!
Now let me go get a towel…
by OJR on Apr 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha!Plus he’s probably gonna want to revenge is boy Shogun.The,only thing that i gave Grffin,like Mac said,is his size.His love to bang unfortunatly,he lost it,since the Jardine fight.Even i’ll say that since that he have a glass jaw.His last fight was a lost.So,i just hope that he won’t get back on his bicycle,like the Ramirez fight,so we,can see fireworks,and maybe prove me wrong perhaps!
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i cant imagine shogun and anderson being that close. shogun was in the chute box when they got into the feud with anderson
by Jared on Apr 28, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Its going to be a good test for Anderson, although I would of rather seen someone like Quinton Jackson fight Anderson instead… I would give my left testie to see Anderson Silva get knocked the fuck out!
by markie on Apr 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
Better be ready with that testie soon after this fight…
by Syd[a.k.a. "the Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Team Maniacs are a very lucky bunch of SOBs to get to see this…
by McArthur on Apr 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
Ehhh, for whatever reason not to excited, probably because of Silva’s last performance.
by ilikadabudweiser on Apr 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
where is john??? its been like 10 minutes…must be cleaning up after himself…he fu#kin’ hates Forest
by McArthur on Apr 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
I was wonderin that too. I know if I was him I would be telling everyone to get down and suck my balls!! lol
by Dragon on Apr 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
NO need! Just Mania and his Biatch ass Crony Jesse HOlland! lol
by john on Apr 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Now let’s not forget, without Mania where would we be?
by DJ on Apr 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta hand it to you john, you are not backing down at all! Most people on here shut down when jesse or mania chime in, uhmmmm, right Kevin. Props john!
by CaptainAmerica on Apr 28, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
ill take forest. hes a really good fighter and has good stand up skills. i think somehow hell get a decision
by Jared on Apr 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
forest will have had 12 month layoff + ASilva coming out of 97 with so much critisism from dana/fans for the second time in a row = TKO for anderson 3rd rnd…it should be called UFC 101 “Leg Kick”
by McArthur on Apr 28, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
This will sell a ton of PPV’s, but I’m scratching my head a little trying to figure out what it sets up down the road for both these guys. As for the fight, it’s hard to see Silva losing, and I’m a forrest fan. Even though Silva has looked bad in his last two fights, the cold hard reality is that he was in ZERO danger of losing either two.
by CL on Apr 28, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
McArthur: No, seriously, it should be UFC 101 “Re-Redemption”, LOL.
by Syd[a.k.a. "the Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Forrest can do it against Rampage, he can do it against A.Silva. If may not be pretty, but I think he’ll get it done!
by JS on Apr 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
all I got to say is damn,well Anderson will have to fight,I predict Anderson to win ,but Forrest will come at him with a good gameplan.Prediction,Anderson catches Forrest kick and KO
by scott on Apr 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting fight. It means nothing for the 205 weight division, I think people rather see silva fight at 85 and defend his belt but I cant wait to see it! Based on styles I think this might be a bad matchup for forrest we will see.
by whocares on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
odviously you are not on here that much if you think the people would rather see Anderson defend his belt at 185 than move up to 205
by scott on Apr 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
probably not. Why would you rather see silva fight at 205 if he loses he is still the best pound for pound at 85 and if he wanted to he could just not fight anymore after he lost!
by whocares on Apr 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That does not make any sense at all,if he loses he odviously is not the p4p champ,and there is not a such thing as p4p champ at 185, there is a 185 champ,but not p4p champ at 185.He still has to defend his belt to the winner of the Bisping/Henderson fight
by scott on Apr 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Best pound for pound means how good you are regardless of the weight class and silva is considered by many top 3. My point was that he got there winning fights at 85 and he is the 85 champ for him to fight at 205 just brcause is exciting for the fans sucks for the fighters at 85 that are waiting for a shot at his title. And even though its unlikely that silva would he could easily not fight anymore if he lost. He can cross his arms and say Fu fans and dana I made enough money Im not fighting hendo because i already beat him and no 1 is gonna hold a gun to his head and make him do otherwise
by whocares on Apr 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it strange that Dana is willing to feed his boy Forrest to Silva. Forrest used to be the 205 champ, defeated Shogun and Rampage. What will that say about Silva’s position in the 205 division if he beats Forrest? I do feel that Forrest beat an injured Shogun and spent most of the fight running from Rampage. That being said, Forrest is still top five or six in the LHW division and it would be a big statement if Silva pulled this off. Forrest needs to get him down and impose his size advantage on Silva to be successfull.
by CaptainAmerica on Apr 28, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t find it that strage,Capo,cause the popularity of Forrest is fading so a,win over a top opponant(that he’s supposed be able to,win cause the weight class)would bring i’m back to the fame of before.Just,like they,did by throwing him a Shogun,after the lost of Jardine and the Boring performance against Ramirez.Plus Forrest is huge,what should be an advantage for him.A lost,would not be that terrific since Anderson is a champion.So,i’m guessing that Dana and the UFC management saying to themselves that’s a win/win situation!
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s a win/win situation exactly. If A. Silva loses, then you have a 205er that just got tko’d by Rashad Evans looking at a title shot, which could get tricky being as he’s just fought Rashad, and the next #1 contender, Rampage back 2 back. (though I wouldn’t mind seeing a rematch with page to set the record straight) BUT it is a win/win for Griffin imo, all he has to do is have a good showing; not too many people really expect him to win against the “best p4p fighter on the planet.” If he does win, then he’s right back up in contendership, if he loses, no biggie, it’s a loss to the best guy the UFC has to offer.
But, I think if he wins, it’s bad for the UFC, they lose a lot more marketability with Silva’s next MW title fight, coming off 2 boring fights and then a loss?? Then their tasked to hype a rematch with either Evans, or Rampage assuming Machida doesn’t throw a wrench in the works. I don’t think it would be hard to market a Rampage/Forrest rematch, but Forrest/Rashad?? I just don’t see it.. This is kinda risky imo..
by O damn he got caught on Apr 28, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
yeaaaaa!!!!!!!!!! I CANT WAIT FOR TICKETS TO GO ON SALE! DOES ANYONE HAVE A TIME FRAME ON THIS! iVE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS FOR UFC TO COME CLOSE TO VA AND WELL HERES MY CHANCE AND I WANNA BE FRONT ROW FOR THIS ACTION.
by chris on Apr 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
Dude, you could email kevin and the other maniacs. If they lack bodies, maybe you could fill in. I also wanted to go too, too bad I’m on the other side of the planet. FACK! Oh well, thank the MMA gods here for free TV!
by Syd[a.k.a. "the Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
For all you that keep talking shit on Anderson’s last performance, STFU!!! He put on a 5 round clinic on a skilled MMA fighter and didn’t even take a single hit. When 2 skilled fighters get into the cage, thats the kind of shit thats going to happen. If you want to see constant drama and come back from behind victories, stick to WWE. Anderson is the best fighter to ever live. He was punching Thales in the leg. Who the f&*k can do that without getting KTFO? His kicks and punches are so fast that his opponents are too scared to engage with him knowing they are going to get knocked out before their punch even reached the target. “Ilikadabudweiser” your an idiot and so is anyone else that didn’t appreciate Anderson’s clinic in UFC 97, including Dana White. Dana likes knuckel head strikers like Liddel who go out and knock heads and get his head knocked off. Chucks skills is 1/50th Anderson’s. People are talking about Anderson and GSP already. Thats the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. I’m a huge GSP fan, but IMO, he would get killed by Anderson. There’s probably 3-4 guys in the middle weights that would beat GSP (Thales, Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson) to name a few.
by Eddie on Apr 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
Whilst I don’t think Thales Leites is a quality fighter by any means, I agree with you that the Silva bashing is unwarranted. Not every fight is going to be exciting and Anderson did what he needed to do to retain his title, easily winning a decision without taking any damage. Fair enough he wasn’t at his best against Cote and Leites but he is still the most successful fighter in UFC history, is easily the top middleweight in the world and one of the top p4p guys along with Fedor and GSP. I bet if he destroys Forrest then people that called him boring and overrated will suddenly jump back on the bandwagon, it happens when you get successes in sport but have a bad performance. I’ve been guilty of this in the past, but Anderson has been one of my favourites since I started watching MMA and I’m not going to stop being a fan because he didn’t stop Leites.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
David W-S,
Good post. I hope the trolls don’t flame you for telling it like it is…
by OJR on Apr 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, OJR seems unaware that by calling those with opinions that differ from his own “trolls” he is in actuality himself behaving like a troll.
by Jeremyjackson on Apr 28, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I’d just like to add that Leites is a very dangerous fighter. Silva made him look very very bad. Whilst Leites was fairly lucky to beat Nate he proved in that fight that he is a good fighter. IMO it was just a horrible match-up, which most people knew as soon as the fight was announced.
by MoonUK on Apr 28, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
OJR thanks man, I can take whatever any trolls say to me, I’ll laugh when they rejoin the Anderson Silva bandwagon.
MoonUK, I agree that Silva made Leites look awful and the match-up was poor but I’ve yet to be convinced by Leites’ BJJ. Whilst I have no problem with him getting the SD over Nate, because he fought dirty and deserved to have points deducted, I haven’t seen him as a danger to any of the top middleweights. Then again I’m a huge Demian Maia fan and I’ve been spoiled by his dominance on the ground, so to me guys like Leites and Palhares have their ground games overhyped. I would have preferred Maia or Okami getting the title shot rather than Leites.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice post David. I am in agreement with you. Although I have been disappointed by Silva’s last two performances, I’m still a big fan of his.
by RealDrew on Apr 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
thales ? beating gsp wow . where would he have any distinct advantage. sure hes a ju jitsu and pro but gsp has more than enough skill to avoid the subs, and if you say size i dont think that will matter as gsp is insanely strong. plus anderson got hit a few times jackass. if you think that fight was fun to watch than you must have no life. even big name MMA fighters were dissapointed in silva. and to finish my argument it wasnt a perfect performance because silva lost a round on the judges scorecards
by Jared on Apr 28, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You are delusional if you think Thales would be GSP.
by WB on Apr 29, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
shogun by destruction, thiago silva is a LEGIT b level fighter and shogun is in the very upper echelon of the division. if that fight happened shogun would whipe the floor with thiago “overated” silva.
by Jared on Apr 28, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats hilarious, good job John breaking this news. Everyone that doubted you must feel like a right prat now.
As I said before, this match now makes 101 a more interesting card than 100 for me persoally as 4 of my favourite fighters are facing off in the two main events. 101 was definitely a great pick for you lot in the box.
Anderson has to be the favourite for this fight as this is his biggest test since Hendo and should motivate him more than the last fights he’s had. Forrest is no joke and is a tough guy who always has exciting fights but a motivated Silva at 205 is lethal and I can’t see Griffin’s chin holding out. This is a chance for Silva to prove the doubters wrong and for Forrest to launch himself back into title contention, and remember what happened the last time Griffin faced a high profile Brazilian who was expected to destroy him.
As for Thiago, I don’t know where he goes from here. He’ll be gutted to lose out on a high profile fight but that may make him more motivated to prove Dana wrong and show that he is a top 10 LHW. I’d like to see him face Shogun, Jardine or Cane as everyone else is either booked or would be a big step down in competition.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
Those guys that you just mentioned—-Shogun, Jardine, Cane, Thiago—- you could put all their names in a hat and draw names to pick the fights and you could do no wrong. I like that group that just emerged (or re-emerged). Personally Im hoping Shogun stops a couple of them and we get a Rampage/Shogun rematch as well.
by merv on Apr 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage-Shogun 2 would be a great match, hopefully Shogun can build on his dominating win over Chuck and hit his Pride form. I’m also hoping we get to see Rampage-Forrest 2 at some point as I want to see Quinton avenge that dodgy defeat.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Judging from Silva’s past two performances and the fighting style of Forrest Griffin this has decision written all over it.
by Bryce on Apr 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
Hey John, Mega Millions is up to $181 Million for tonight’s drawing.
What do you like?
thanks,
by The Slovak on Apr 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
hellya, I got in a pool at work, and flipped when nobody won last Sat, hahaha… I’ll be the next Dana White, without all the tv spots, interviews, public eye crap..
“I’m RICH BITCH!”
by DirtbagHtr on Apr 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too. But whatever i guess. I mean its a helluva fight, but what about Thaigo??? He needed the Forrest fight to keep him in title contention. Im betting they wil lgive him Cane now. Seeing as how they have a heated Rivalry already. But i for some reason did want to see Thiago knock Forrest block off anbd get him up to a title shot!. If Forrest loses, it wont damage him because it will be made as a superfight and it wont affect his tock at 205 cuz Anderson is not going to stay there and he woudl have lsot to the P4P king.
by Adam on Apr 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking Thiago-Jardine might be pretty good too – I believe people have said that is rumored.
by WB on Apr 29, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Right on!! You wanted a exciting fight Forrest is the man for excitement and probaly the toughest SOB in MMA. right after the big 100 Silva win or lose will be right on schedule to defend his belt against Bisping or Henderson.
by Puck Head on Apr 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
id give smith that role for now haha that radach fight is still in my head
by Jared on Apr 28, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Bj vs. Florian will still be the main event right?
by ja434650 on Apr 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
I hope not, it would be a dishonor to Anderson Silva.
by kazai on Apr 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
who would want to honor him after his last performance? plus bj vs florian has been a huge fight hyped for almost a year. WAR FLORIAN
FUCK YOU SILVA!!!!
by Jared on Apr 28, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i’m thinkin bj’s the more marketable fighter here
by ja434650 on Apr 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The title fight will generally be the main event.
by James S on Apr 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice crap, Griffin will pressure Silva, Silva will counter attack like he loves to and we will have a nice KO.
by Daddy Lupo on Apr 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
I really hope Forrest doesnt lose. It will take him like 3 or 4 more solid wins to get a title shot (If he loses).
But if he wins , I say he fights winner of Machida/Evans VS. RAMPAGE.
Thiago v. Rua for sure
by robbyc on Apr 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
I’m not too sure I’m excited about this fight…we’ll see how the Spider performs this time around…I think Forrest’s striking is still very sloppy and Anderson will catch him if he goes after him…however, Forrest is a huge 205er, so strategy might be some good all GnP to take a UD…
I’m more focused on UFC 100 right now, can’t wait for the GSP / Thiago fight, everyone seems very confident about GSP’s chances but I wouldn’t count Thiago out, even though I’m a GSP fan
by Mascarita on Apr 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
LOL! Forrest loved the idea. He is going to get mauled. Brutal TKO coming. What can forrest do to Anderson? Somebody please tell me.
by Adam T. on Apr 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
I’m not a Forrest fan, but, seriously, this is a tougher test than Cote or Leites, and A. Silva is finally at a disadvantage in size in the UFC. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised; not saying Forrest will win, but I dont’ think he’s going out like a chump either.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 28, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
And this is sounding way too much like Forrest vs Shogun and Forrest vs Rampage for comfort. Everyone on here’s like “Forrest is gonna get destroyed” “This is an easy fight for A. Silva, just to restore his p4p status” etc.. This crap is identical to just before the Rampage fight and before the Shogun fight. I’m not rooting for Griffin, I’m not saying he’s gonna win, but with the way everyones taking this match up, it just wouldn’t surprise me..
by O damn he got caught on Apr 28, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Me neither. I still say Anderson wins but I think Forrest can hang tough for the 3 rounds. Then again Rashad put him away so I really wouldn’t be surprised if Silva did too.
Maybe Anderson will start off slow and it might take some time to find his range given that for once he’ll probably at a reach disadvantage.
by RobH86 on Apr 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Rashad has way better wrestling and td defence than A Silva, we’ve seen Silva on his back a couple of times at 185 so i wouldnt be surprised to see forrest swinging like a wildman and taking beats to get inside, drag him down and go tito on his ass from inside the guard. This would prob be his best chance at a win and avoiding getting ktfo or picked apart on the feet. He has to watch out for silvas jits, but im not sure how anderson will handle a big aggresive mauler with longer reach than him from his back.
by PanicZoo on Apr 29, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Completely agree panic
I think Forrest can win this by U/D. He will stay busy in silvas guard and win a couple of rounds that way. Remember this is a 3 rounder.
by Nick J on Apr 29, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think what happened to Irvin before will also happen to Forrest. which was, “the bigger guy got mauled”! haha!
by Syd[a.k.a. "the Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t know if you saw the weigh in but Irvin was not bigger than silva..
by O damn he got caught on Apr 29, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions
after anderson destroys forrest, then he will fight rampage and destroy him also, that will provide proof to dana, and the world that silva is #1 pnp fighter in the world.
by dtotorica on Apr 29, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, since Rampage won’t be fighting for the title for awhile, how about Page vs Thiago on 101 as well?
by slim473 on Apr 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
They won’t risk Rampage and why should Rampage fight when he is already guaranteed the winner of Machida/Evans?
by Adam T. on Apr 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah thats bull…Rampage gets to sit on his butt for a while …in the mean time..Forrest has to fight one of the best fighters ever and Rashad has to fight some crazy Karate guy…Rua had to fight Chuck…I know rampage took out some top guys already, but shouldnt he stay active???
by robbyc on Apr 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Stay active?? are you serious bro. He fought Wanderlie in December then turns around and Fights Jardine in March and they wanted him to fight Rashad in May. Not to metnion he hd fought Forrest last July. So that is Forrest, Wanderlie and Jardinein the span of 8 months!!! Come on now. Rumours are he returns in AUgust or September. Id say he is right on schedule with everyoen else. Plus he only took time off to heal some injuries.
by Adam on Apr 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If anythign id say he is one of the most active fighters. Rashad would have had 5 months between his last fight and FOrrest will have 9 months between his last fight. (injury) In the meantime Rampage fought 3 tough opponeents in the span of 8 months. If anythign id say he has been more active than boh Rashad and Forrest.
by Adam on Apr 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention Rampage also went ape shit crazy and got arrested and almost thrown in jail and lost his mind and still managed to fight 3 times in 8 months.
Most other fighters bitch about minor injuries but I guarantee Rampage fought injured atleast once and maybe twice in 8 months.
He’s a warrior.
by DirtyML on Apr 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
ok semi-stupid comment by me. I just want to see him fight. So the next time he fights will be about Sept/Oct…that will be about 8-9 month break.
Hopefully he doesnt get all fat and out of shape again like he did when he was on TUF. He does like to party alotttt
by robbyc on Apr 28, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
after machida destroys rashad, then rampage, it will be a perfect opportunity for anderson to fight , the slow one dimensional rampage and destroy him, and cement his legacy as the #1 pnp fighter
by dtotorica on Apr 29, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
and mmabay has the last laugh after everyone dogged them for breaking this news first.
by Adam on Apr 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah shame that they have posted hundreds of false rumours and have been nothing but an absolute joke of a website for quite some time. They are the tmz of mma news.
by Chito on Apr 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
this is crap, its all about the show, there are still many middle weights that deserve a title shot , how about maia, who is 5-0 in the ufc, he has beaten every one he has faught with ease, silva got a title shot after 2 fights. maia should get this fight.
by mm on Apr 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
maia hasnt faced a top 5 mw yet. and rich had almost cleaned out the division when spider got his title shot. the mw division needs some time to sort out a clear challenger between
maia
hendo
bisping
marquart
wandy (when he moves down)
by COR on Apr 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
because Maia would be another snooze fest that noone wants to see (apart from you evidently). didnt you learn anything from the anderson silver vs a jiu jitsu guy with no standup. use your brain.
by UK_Chris on Apr 28, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I’d love to see Anderson-Demain, I think it would be a much better fight than Silva-Leites because Maia has far superior jits to Leites. He has proven that he can take top wrestlers and strikers to the ground with ease and when the fight reaches the ground there is nobody more dangerous in the UFC than Maia. His BJJ is on another level to guys like Leites and Palhares so he’d be a much sterner test on the ground and he wouldn’t just lay on the floor to bring the fight to the ground, he would look to pull guard from the clinch or use sweeps to take Silva down. Whilst his stand-up needs to improve, he is well on his way to earning a title shot.
I’d like to see Maia face Nate Marquardt as he would be a big test for him and a win would prove that he has what it takes to fight top middleweights. It looks like the Bisping-Hendo winner will get the next title shot but after that I’d like to see Maia and Nate face each other for the next shot.
As for Wandi, I’m a big fan and I hope he can beat Franklin but I don’t know whether his chin will hold out. A move to MW could be the rebirth of the Axe Murderer or the end of an era, we shall see at 99 whether he has what it takes to be a top contender. A Silva-Silva fight would be explosive and both guys would be up for it as right now there is a heated rivalry developing.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i wish the UFC would do some tournaments. a middleweight tournament would be awesome now. either define a clear contender or have them battle for the belt if silva vacates which i doubt he will.
by chris on Apr 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Well it should be much more interesting than his last fight but I think silva will tko forrest, and I know forrest can’t stand silva so it might not go to the second round. Forrest is a brawler, I can guarantee this won’t be a boring fight Forrest won’t let it be.
by nathan on Apr 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
Wow John and Keivn I might not sleep for 4 months!!!!!!
by Robert(1) on Apr 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
yea finally som1 who can test him everywere war silva
by Beast3000 on Apr 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
great matchup mad props to the ufc.
spider is gonna stop forrest. bet the bank on it
by aj on Apr 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions
I think at the end of this one, Forrest might be crying in the corner, but we the audience will enjoy it because the Spider will accomplish this feat in a brutal fashion… I hope. Silva via 2nd round TKO.
by Belisarius on Apr 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
Have you ever watched Forrest fight? Wether you like him or not, and wether he wins or loses, that guy is one of the toughest in the game.
Silva will probably take it, but Forrest will not run either.
by Jrandolph on Apr 28, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
great fight! ufc just seems to be delivering the goods these days. Im most looking foward to brock vs mir but evans machida and forrest silva are right up there in terms of mega fights. Very happy
by markg on Apr 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
If they can pull Thiago out of the fight I kind of wish they’d give Chuck and Coleman a proper sending off at UFC 100 by pulling Bonnar out of the fight with Coleman and putting Chuck in there. That way one of the old legends gets a win and they can both, or one of them, retire on the biggest stage.
Wishful thinking I know.
by RobH86 on Apr 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn’t mind seeing Chuck vs Thiago at 100 that’s if Chuck gives Dana a real hard time….Great fight Forrest might be able to outbox Anderson for awhile but his chin won’t hold up
by Robert(1) on Apr 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’ll always enjoy watching Chuck fight and that’s one I think he can still win. I don’t want to see him losing anymore though. It’s kind of sad.
by RobH86 on Apr 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He won’t be outboxing the Spider, I tell you this…
by Syd[a.k.a. "the Negation"] on Apr 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG, soo freakin’ awesome. love both these guys for stepping up and making this happen. cant wait for august 8. kenflo and bj. this card is so sick.
by COR on Apr 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
mm are u kidding me who has maia beat name one top 10 fighter he has beat? Sonnen haha, Herman Macdonald all trash. U dont earn a title shot beating crappy fighters. The only one at 185 that deserve a shot is okami but the ufc doesnt like him. I think forrest will win this fight he is good at landing a few strikes and backing out which works pretty good against counter strikers. Forrest by unamious decision he will win the first two rounds then sit back on the third and watch silva play with his hands like he did leites.
by DESPERUS on Apr 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Like I said before let him face Nate Marquardt and prove that he deserves to be a top contender. Maia has looked outstanding in all of his fights so far so he deserves a step up in competition. If Okami can get past Dan Miller then that would be another big fight for Maia to prove himself.
I’d like to see Anderson avenge that DQ defeat to Okami at some point but Yushin also has to beat a top guy on a PPV main card to validate a title shot as right now the casuals have no idea who he is as he is never shown. Thats why it would make sense to me to put him up against a top contender like Maia or Marquardt, so we get one step closer to a deserving challenger to the MW title after Anderson faces the Bisping-Hendo winner.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
HEEEEYYYYYY DOES THAT MEAN SHOGUN VS THIAGO SILVA??????????
by buckmarley on Apr 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
Quagmire from family guy: “Dear diary,….JACKPOT”.
this event is gona be sick! if only i loved in America! shit!
Now u Silva haters finally get to see him kick some ass since Forrest is soo aggressive!
Anderson by UD (with a very bloodied Forrest)
by Randy for Couture on Apr 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
This is a more exciting fight than BJ and Kenny. There is nothing left for the Spider in the 185 division but crushed cans… Let the Spider fight SHOGUN,RAMPAGE,SUGAR after this.
by Cory on Apr 28, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Great fight in my opinion. Silva has never fought someone this big before. Forrest is a huge 205. Both very technical and skilled although you have to give KO power and stand up to the Spider but we’ve seen Forrest do his best when he’s an underdog. For example when he fought Rampage and Shogun.
I’m going for the upset Forrest by split decision or submission. I’m excited!
by skelow on Apr 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah , but Rampage and Shogun both obviously underestimated Forrest.
Shogun – barely trained , had a knee that needed surgery, and came in without a gameplan.
Rampage – let himself get WAY outta shape before the fight. made comments suggesting he believed Forrest to be although a scrapper a weak chin’d guy who was going to lose eventually. Was headhunt and stalking most of the fight
Anderson Silva obviously never underestimates anyone….(since he got subbed twice in Japan _ lol) And he’s not stupid.
by evilstuntz on Apr 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
GET READY FOR ANOTHER FORREST CRYING JAG AFTER THE SPIDER SMACKS HIM DOWN.
by sam on Apr 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
Lol, nah i’m thinking Forrest is going to go in there talking about the different ways he imagines himself losing this one and then not being suprised in the end… _ lol
by evilstuntz on Apr 28, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer to see Anderson Silva vs Wanderlei Silva and Rich Franklin vs Forrest Griffin
more interesting fights!!
by serial killer on Apr 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
Forrest is scrwed…he will get knocked out and i know this 100%. I dont see this being a good fight at all..Forrest has ZERO CHANCE…
by What? on Apr 28, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
Didn’t people say that about him when he fought Shogun & Rampage??? Never say never.
by Dennis on Apr 28, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
f@%k all of you Forrest pulls upset of the centry for the 3rd time!!!
by thebending on Apr 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell Yeah this is the best news i have heard all month…Thank you Dana.I am really looking forward to this one. The old Anderson will be back and i cant wait. Silva TKO round 2 (forrest with a mouse under each eye)
by Chris on Apr 28, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t get it…this doesn’t seem like a great matchup to me. I would rather see Silva v Silva any day.
by kwood on Apr 28, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah a Wanderlei-Anderson fight, or Wanderson megafight if you will, would be fireworks.
Don’t be surprised to see the UFC bring in Belfort and Manhoef to keep Anderson busy at 185. If they don’t bring them in then Silva should just relinguish the belt and move to 205, or screw it weigh in at 210ish and fight Brock already lol.
by RobH86 on Apr 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I gauranteee it 100%. A in shape anderson silva that is focused will smear im across the canvas…Forrest has on a slightly lower scale the same fighting style as chris leben WITHOUT any power at all. He is going to get picked apart at every single exchange..you will see..
by What? on Apr 28, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions
by lower scale i mean he is not as wild but def has the same tendencies..
by What? on Apr 28, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Forrest is a lot of things, but a Chris Leben? No way.
by pancakehead on Apr 28, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
I have to say, I think im the only one not excited about this. I think Thiago and Forrest would have been a more exciting match.
I was picking Thiago in that matchup, and I shall be picking Silva in this one. For all the same reasons.
I think there are other better 205 guys which would have made a better fight with Anderson. How about Rich Franklin? Haha joke! How about Rue, Cane, or even Jardine? All good strikers, because thats evidently what Dana wants to see. Griffin isnt exactly the feared striker thats going to have Anderson shaking in his boots. If Griffin couldnt handle Rashad, he better be praying for a miracle here.
I got Anderson walking this fight without breaking a sweat again. Just like the others. Boring.
by UK_Chris on Apr 28, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
walking the figh? what does that mean? why do some people always got to complain?
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
YEah everyone has been saying Anderson should face a legit 205er (ie NOT IRVIN) and obviously Griffin is legit.
by robbyc on Apr 28, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Irvin is legit too. I don’t get the Irvin hate, he’s a solid muay thai fighter!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
walking – metaphor for no effort.
Come on… who seriously believes that Griffin is going to do any damage to Anderson. The matchup was made for 2 reasons:
- Griffin is a big name
- Griffin will walk straight at Anderson
And what happens when people attack Anderson. They get KTFO. The fight wasnt set up to test Anderson. It was set up so we can all see Anderson knock out another big name.
Ergo…Thiago and Griffin would have been a better overall fight with genuine implications in the weight division.
by UK_Chris on Apr 28, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree! Griffin is a huge name due to TUF and most recent champ and he’ll push the pace! You also got to realize he’s big in terms of size too! I for one am excited!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
c’mon this fight will be competitive. so many people counting forrest out, shame. he will come in with a good game plan, a size advantage, and hungry like always. forrest is not a walking target. Rua and Cane are brazilians and i dont think dana wants to chance anderson playing soft in his next fight.
jardine would have been a good matchup too.
by COR on Apr 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
oh shit this fight is goin2 b nuts, anderson by tko first round
by andrewb on Apr 28, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
How hard is it to change weight class? Is it easy to gain or lose 20 pounds in a couple of month? I know I can’t.
How can you not stay at your “natural” weight? Do these guys just stop doing what they do after the fight and lose all the weight and go back to say 185? (referring to silva)
by Alex on Apr 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
I just went from 6 to midnight.. does anybodyy know when the official announcment of the fight is.. Fight is in 9 weeks and they have yet to announce on the ufc website. i was a lil unsure still if i wanted to dish out a few bills on this but F it. its on.. Dont forget we pregame hard in philly, K16 lot. haha
UFC in PHILLY!!!
by charr552 on Apr 28, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
9 weeks?? more like 14. Still 3 and half months away.
by Adam on Apr 28, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
whew.. wow i may be an idiot haha. just too excited i guessi want it to be sooner. i believe i was thinking about ufc 100. my bad dont hold it against me
by charr552 on Apr 28, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If you read the full article, Dana said he’s trying to sign a middleweight that will blow peoples minds..
by Chris on Apr 28, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
I’d love to see Vitor Belfort back in the UFC, he’s looked outstanding since his drop down to middleweight and is finally looking like the Vitor of old. Whilst I don’t see him beating Anderson, Vitor would be a dangerous opponent for anyone in the MW division and his striking would win him lots of new fans who won’t have seen him fight back in the day. I’d like to see a Vitor-Wanderlei rematch, I’ve never seen anyone throw punches quicker than Vitor did in that fight.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i was trying to think of who he could be talking about at middleweight. He obviously would have to be well known if it is gonna blow peoples minds. Or possibly a 205er that is gonna drop to 185 when he enters the UFC?
by merv on Apr 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, white boys stand no chance against me. Why do people always bring up GSP as one of the best Pound for pounds. I think Alves will knock him out. At least I’m hoping so.
by Anderson Silva on Apr 28, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
UK Chris i think u talking about the old forrest the new forrest is alot better and more technical. This fight is going to decision Forrest griffin is made to beat counter strikers. This is going to be a good fight and people can bitch all they want.
by DESPERUS on Apr 28, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
one thing is for sure.
when i heard silva vs cote i was baffled and bored.
when i heard about silva vs leites i was pissed and insulted. when i heard about silva griffin . . . hell yeah.
by COR on Apr 28, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
old news, saw this on bloodyelbow a month ago…..fight would be interchangable between the silvas.
by marco on Apr 28, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone know Forrests natural walk around weight? I heard from a friend at Extreme Couture that Forrest is walking at 235 right now (heard this about 3 weeks ago) To me it sounds like the hand injury has been keeping him from training and keeping his weight down. This could be a bad sign for him. It could also be normal. I don’t know what he typically cuts down from.
by BulletproofTiger on Apr 28, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions
i can’t stand forest his chin sux’s!!!!! big time…he can’t handle a punchand will be tentative to throw cuz his hand…..
COme on DAN WHITE!!
THis is not what the fans want another win for anderson silva, and Forrest will just about cry when he loses….forest fights not to lose
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
i’m not really sure what you’re referring to with forrest not having a good chin. he took some huge shots from rampage and stayed alive
by TheLastProdigiousRushingAxeMurderingEmperor on Apr 29, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
OFFICIAL!!! Just reported on UFC.com Penn vs Florian and Silva vs Griffin to Headline UFC 101 in Philly
by Chris on Apr 28, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
Hey guys,
Does it also take like 8 min for your comments to post or is it me? MMA Junkie has instant comments, but i like Mania for the user comments and Sherdog is filled with angry pube-stash 16 yr olds it seems.
Thanks
by Chris on Apr 28, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
The trade-off is you don’t have to register or sign-up to comment.
Moderation is a pain in the ass (more work for us because we have no control over what comments get flagged), but it’s part of the system, whether we like it or not.
by Jesse Holland on Apr 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, I get flagged for every comment. this new guy should be happy! I remember when I first started posting here, instant comments, it was heavenly.
Jesse you in for the 101 suite or what? It’ll be fun to meet your fans, no?
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you have no control over what comments get flagged? you guys seriously need to work on posting our comments faster, or else we leave and go elsewhere…..why do posts get flagged…i notice that if you don’t like what we say you dont post it
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, we never got moderated a few years ago! The site is bigger now, but regulars like me or introvert or john etc shouldn’t get flagged! I can’t tell you how many times I’ll get personally attacked and the douche who’s attacking me doesn’t get moderated, yet I’ll post a viable comment on topic about a fighter and wait 5 hours for it to come up!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You shouldn’t get flagged but others should, lol. No, you never come off as pompous Kevin.
by Diceman on Apr 29, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesse,
Would you ever consider having the user name & sign up, to make comments appear faster? I mean most of the people on here are educated and mature who have good things to say.
It is basically what had drawn me to the site in the first place. Im not trying to bust your nuggets or anything but its my favorite website and i think it would be nice to have the instant comments. Any other Maniacs agree?
by Chris on Apr 28, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, your beating a dead topic chris…of course we agree, not only for that, but for impostor comments too!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
8 minutes? you’re the luckiest guy on the site! I got comments that I made this morning that still haven’t come up!
Not named below, good job breaking out the Chuck Norris jokes, they never get old!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard once Silva wins he’s going to fight Swine Flu
by Not named on Apr 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
Haha, I’ve got a feeling that the UK media coverage is now going to be dominated by swine flu. I can see a lot of people getting scared about nothing, like they did when bird flu was supposedly going to kill us all. The only 2 people with it in the UK are a daft Scottish couple that went to Mexico for their honeymoon, thats what happens when you go to third world countries, its not exactly news that they got sick.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what about Vitor Belfort or
Gegard Mousasi, or rampage, or…..??
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
CAN everyone call the ufc and complain ..the ufc has this really hot sounding porn-o secretary that answers the phone like you are about to have phone sex.
If we the fans are more active at telling dana and the ufc who we want to seee then they will know at least ,, cuz right now there is no legit rankings……it’s worse than boxing…call the ufc and tell em what u think! i will cuz i aint paing for anderson silvas crap again, especially agains weak chinned forrest, and now weak fisted
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
“weak chinned Forrest?” I’m in no way a forrest fan, but when has he been KO’d?
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you serious? Did you forget The Keith Jardine fight? The Rashad Evans fight?
by RedDog on Apr 29, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t want to see this PPV then don’t order it, simple as. I for one am excited about this fight and I don’t see anything wrong with matching Anderson Silva up with a top 5 LHW and a former LHW champion but if you don’t want to see this fight then you don’t have to, complaining to the UFC won’t make any difference. Like him or not Forrest is a popular fighter and this fight will help 101 draw a big live crowd and increase PPV buys. Nobody is forcing you to watch a fight that you don’t want to see, so I suggest you save your money for PPV cards that you’d rather see rather than waste time bitching about what could be the top MMA show of the year.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
are you dana white jeeze?
90 percent of readers want anderson silva to face a really fing good fighter….forrest is not one of those sorry but i have an opinion and your stupid constant logic if you dont like it dont buy it….shut that up! ….we the fans gotta make the fights …ok so shut up let dana or other people decide who fights you pioce of saranwrap
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait I thought you were Dana White, now I’m Dana White wtf is that supposed to be an insult? And piece of saranwrap? C’mon you can do better than that. Arguing with me and Kevin on a website isn’t going to do your cause any favours.
As consumers, we have the right to pick and choose which shows we watch and if you’re not happy with the matchmaking then you can choose not to watch a PPV. If the UFC put on a bunch of fights that nobody cared about then their buy rates would drop and MMA fans would watch their competition instead for better fights. Fans can’t choose matches because we all have differing opinions on who the top fighters are and what would make competetive fights. Personally I like this match-up but you don’t, so if we were a part of a group that had to book fights then we wouldn’t agree on anything.
Whilst Joe Silva at times makes poor choices e.g. Silva-Leites, generally he books exciting fights that people want to see. If he didn’t then the UFC would not be the top MMA promotion. I’m not saying the UFC is perfect but your proposals are not practical and your bitching and name calling just makes you look childish.
by David W-S on Apr 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hamil will give Vera a battle, winner faces Thiago? Or Jardine vs. Thiago.
by DirtbagHtr on Apr 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
DirtbagHtr wtf are u talking about? follow the train of thought stupid!
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
he’s saying who Thiago should fight since he was scrapped from this fight! stop calling out guys making valid points!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
kevin go away seriously you act like you own this site or something!
I don’t care about you kevin.
if you got anything to do with this site you mus be the #hole who deletes posts like dana f’s fighters with contracts.
KEVIN are you special cuz your in smurf blue, whatever that means…
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
no I’m not the guy who deletes, only reason I know is because half my post got deleted.
Go ahead and call the UFC during detention tomorrow ok buddy! You fucking douche!
by kevin on Apr 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin,
You have to remember that kids might post on here. I acutally changed my name link from the joke porn link b/c it occured to me that not everyone is adult. Note that I’m not saying “keep it clean.” I’m just saying when you get called silly names and comments aren’t quite making sense, it could be a younger individual.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Apr 29, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i don’t know about you, but Forrest was making his usual stupid jokes – after he lost the title!!! This guy didn’t even act like he cared about being a champ – Dana made sure Forrest fought the right opponents and made his career easy on the way to the top. Rashad had to fight his way there. Forrest didn’t even care he lost the belt!
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
That’s one of the most ill informed posts i’ve seen on here in a long time. nobody seems to like “iamdanawhite” and for good reason with that nonsensical rubbish. Making an accusation against Forrest’s character like that, saying that he “didnt even care he lost the belt” is absolutely horrible and unfounded. Dana White made sure Forrest had an easy road to the top? Injured or not shogun is not a hard fight and he fought a completely healthy physically (mentally, well I’ll leave that one alone) Rampage. I wouldn’t exactly call that an easy road. And Forrest has a sense of humor, sorry if you don’t like that “iamdanawhite” but it’s really just too bad. Maybe come back on this forum once your balls drop and you can actually say something intelligent.
by TheLastProdigiousRushingAxeMurderingEmperor on Apr 29, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
hendo rematch is all thats left for silva at 185
there is no other guy at 185 who has earnt the right to get in the ring with him
GSP is the only lighter guy who could step up as he is a massive 170
this wouldnt be advisable for gsp imho
185 division without silva is a good move for gsp… but with silva there is a massive risk
time for silva to go to 205 and cleanout the division… he doesnt necessarily need to get a title shot or fight his friend machida but there are definitely a stack of fights there for him
by bigjohn on Apr 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
anderson wont fight machida, he has said numerous times, that machida is the future of the LHW division, and that when they train together, machida basically schools him. Its not a coincedence that machida has never lost a fight, or even a round in his whole career.
by dtotorica on Apr 29, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP v AS at a catchweight of 177.5 would be best. They could both easily pull it off and it would be the most fair.
by Brand0 on Apr 29, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT? what about nate the great ..nate keeps looking better
by iamdanawhite on Apr 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
and another thing. Mania, you’re the one that’s talking about putting Fedor’s penis on Johns mouth. Who censors you?
by Chris on Apr 28, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
i can guarantee they will book thiago vs. shogun
by BigSmoke on Apr 28, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by MMA Fanatic on Apr 29, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Fights that must happen.
Lesnar vs Fedor ?
GSP vs Anderson Silva
SHOGUN vs SUGAR
Bisping vs Maia
Thiago SIlva vs Luis Cane
by Cory on Apr 29, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions
I agree with all but GSP v/s Silva. GSP is white which = ass whooping. How about Silva v/s Machida/Evans /Jackson winner. That would staple the Silva as the best Pfp Fighter in the world if he could capture 205 belt.
by Anderson Silva on Apr 29, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad Anderson is set to fight at 205 once again. It is long overdue, but to be honest, I am slightly disappointed with this announcement, purely because my instant gut reaction was Anderson is being protected here.
Forrest is a well-rounded fighter who is competent in most disciplines of the sport, but excels at none. My gut feeling is I really don’t see him troubling Anderson much at all. He may frustrate him, but that’s all. He’ll show heart, courage, hunger and will come with a gameplan but if Anderson is anywhere near his fight-finishing best, it’ll be 10-0 for him in the UFC.
Ironically, I was hoping for Rampage to be the opponent for Anderson’s next fight at 205lbs. I think Rampage is one of few fighters in the weight class that would pose a few problems for Anderson with his physique, heavy hands and aggression.
It would have been the perfect time to set it up. Both fighters have fought fairly recently, so would have had similar timescales to prepare and can’t complain about rustiness. They both are fighting with points to prove, coming off less-than-impressive wins. They’d both be hungry to win. Rampage would know that a win over Silva would pretty much guarantee him next crack at the belt and it is the type of challenge that would galvanise and motivate Anderson to take his fighting seriously. Plus, neither fighter are particularly tied up as the UFC is probably awaiting the outcome of Bisping-Henderson for his next title defence and Rampage isn’t signed to fight in the coming months.
All I want to see is Silva being challenged as it might bring out better performances from him and I have reservations whether Forrest will provide this.
by Jourdan on Apr 29, 2009 4:02 AM EDT reply actions
I hear what you’re saying, but Forrest is good quality, he’s the real deal. I think just because we can’t see Forrest’s potential to KO Silva like we would with Rampage doesn’t mean this won’t be a difficult or contentious fight for Silva.
It’ll be pretty interesting to see how it plays out. Let’s not forget Forrest is the former champ.
by Johnny Farnham on Apr 29, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
This will be a great fight. Anderson Silva needs someone to push him, and Forrest Griffin will do just that and some. I believe Silva will knock him out in the second round, but not without a war. Good luck Griffin.
by E. Fairway on Apr 29, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
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