Come on Synyster…u sound silly! U never EARNED the right for the title in the 1st place…He beat a Over rated TUF star Grove, who I happen to like…and beat Almeida (who I am a big fan of), but keep it real, Almeida hasnt done ANYTHING in mma for years now!

To me a title contender should have to beat a few guys like Maia, Leites, Marquardt, Franklin, Hendo….how the F did Cote get a title shot, without ever fighting any of them!

Agreed John. Cote got his title shot for a few reasons:
1) There was no one else around since okami got hurt and the ufc refuses to get better mw like lawler or belfort
2) Cote loves to stand and band and Dana white can says whatever he wants but he favors those types of fighters over ground fighters
3) HE’S CANADIAN!!! – All reports that come out of ppv guys show that canadian mma fans go crazy for there guys and actually pay to watch the ppvs. Cote being from canada probably got allot of buys from there for this ppv whereas most fans wouldnt buy that ppv b/c they knew it was a one-sided fight.

Nobody in Canada is going apeshit over Patrick Cote, I can assure you.

He got the title shot because he is a big puncher who can take a punch, so it looked like an exciting stand-up fight which would sell PPVs.

Maia and Leites weren’t on the radar yet and Silva had already destroyed Henderson and Nate.

I agree he didn’t deserve the shot, but there weren’t a lot of options at the time.

Leites getting a shot was flat out ridiculous.

Couldn’t agreed more!

sure he isnt andersons level but cotes a badass dude. id give him a shot against the great, leites, bisbing. those are three legit contenders. not to mention he took the same shots franklin and hendo took and he just shook them off. if that doesnt earn respect i dont know what does

John, I never said he deserved it, I was defending his knockout wins over Grove and McFedries. I didn’t mention anything with his title shot. But I do think he was the only one available at the time to really get one. If not a Cote title shot, then a fight at 205. But yeah dude, next time, criticize me for something I actually said. lol.

Politics John, politics…

attaboy Syn! Spit that venom back at me hommie! lol all in good fun!

U guys know, I am really big on contenders EARNING THE RIGHT to fight for UFC titles, that way when upsets do occur, we aren’t left with undeserving champions! I have been very vocal about it in the past, and that wont change. If u havent EARNED the right to fight for the title, if you do pull off the upset, I dont even consider you champ. Thats why I frown upon fake champs like Mir, Brock, Forrest, Serra…………. I cant really blame them though for accepting title fights and winning. JOe Silva often does a poor job of matching up contenders against each other so that we get a clear cut #1 contender for the champ. This wont change until a ranking system is made public by the UFC, forcing the UFC to make legitimate macth ups, instead of marketable or exciting match ups. Its a sport, and a great one at that with tons of amazing athletes in each division. Just let the chips fall were they may…make all match ups based on merit, and you will still have a very entertaining product and a cash cow of an organization.

Considering that there was no one avalible in the weak MW division when Okami got hurt. Cote with 4 solid wins in a row deserved it more than anyone else that was avalible. Franklin, Hendo and Marquardt had to climb back up after Silva beat them down. Also it’s pretty hard to say the guy that lasted longer than anyone else(and still wasn’t hurt by Anderson)didn’t deserve to be there.

GOrd: Im going to make a point, and I want to know simply if you agree or disagree.

Shuoldnt the #1 contender thats getting a title shot in the middleweight division have to at least beat a top guy like Marquardt, Hendo, Maia, Lietes, Bisping or Okami before being awarded a title shot?

How the hell can anyone justify giving Cote a title shot without ever facing a top 10 MW?

Dont get me wrong, I think Patrik is a tough guy and has the potential to be a top 10 middleweight. But in my eyes, you cant become a top 10 middleweight without ever beating or even facing a top 10 opponent.

Also Gord: Yes he made it to round 3 against the spider…sort of! In both the cote and Leites fights, Anderson wanted to prove he can go five rounds….Silva didnt even attack for 2 rounds…so how is making it to round 3 a big deal?

scott: I wasnt even fired up about the Fedor comment. Calling people idiots and stuff like that is just how i talk in everyday life….I dont mean it as an insult, but I have to be more careful about how I come off on the computer screen, because re-readingt my posts, I can see how they might be taken as disrespectful, and I sincerely appologize for that. Just know, thats the way I talk, it really isnt intended to be offensive, but I have to do a better job when typing, to say what I mean so I am not misconstrued as being abrasive.

my bad!

Bisping is new to 185, Maia was still fairly new and his name power was low,…Hendo was fighting Palhares, Okami was hurt, and Leites was getting stomped by Marquardt. Thats why Cote got a shot.

I’m sick of Silva toying w/ people and getting bored. The Silva that fought Leben was a different person. He had a killer instinct and was much more enjoyable to watch.

It’s not the iron chin, it’s the structure of his head, as Joe would say.

hey guys, just as an off topic point of interest. Be careful with this new flu. My wife works for the GOVT, they just had an emergency meeting, Obama called for a state of emergency. She has to bring emergency vaccines to stockton today and it’s supposedly a lot worse than they are making it out to be on the news. Just a heads up!

By chance,we only got 6 cases and,they where all,related to people who went to Mexico.I’m fearing the worst my self too.Now that mr.Obama called a state of emergency…that’s,kind of alarming.I thought that he said that you had nothing to worried about.Travel agency in Europe an in Canada advised people to not go in the US or Mexico right now!This is really bad.

well, I’m giving you inside info. My wife is driving an hour to stockton right now, then to livermore. The VA is not only going to treat vets, but their families too! That is unheard of! She’s worried, and it takes a lot for her to worry. We shall see!

Toying with people? bobby oshea ur arguement is ridiculously ignorant. You think silva would go in there and toy with a guy that has KO power like cote? no, fighters dont toy with other fighters they go in there and try and finish the fight asap. Silva isn’t as unbeatable as all these TUF fans make him out to be and for you to say any fighter goes into a fight and toys with the other is ignorant. Silva simply reswpected cote. that is it.

re: bobby

Got bored with Cote? I supposed you’d say the same thing about the fight with Leites; accept the problem is that it was us (the fans) that were bored! I think you’re far from objective (clearly a Silva fan) but you’re entitled to your opinion… I just think it’s wrong, and that’s my opinion.

I think that having already faught Silva once, Cote will be even better a second time. Accept for Marquart, name one person that deserves a title shot more than Cote currently in middleweight!?

Besides, what are the other options, middleweight is basically devoid of talent. Send Silva up to 205 or bring some talented LHW’ers down to middleweight and lets give Silva something to worry about!

What the hell ever happened to Okami?

who cares Jeff, I never want to see him fight Silva, he pussed out of their first fight!

Nobody’s sure, Jeff. His last fight was so boring everyone fell asleep, and when we woke up he was gone.

why does okami deserve a shot any more than leites. hell leites actually beat a top guy, well not really but it was recorded as a win. okami is on a 3 fight win streak and has yet to face a top 10 guy. i like the idea of hendo and bisbing fighting for the next shot because both guys are legit top 10 and both title contenders. the same goes for a maia-marquardt fight. and the best part of the agreement is okami is BORING as shit. id rather watch the view than watch an okami fight.

Apparantly Franklin isn’t top 10, Jared?

well he did but he lost, but you did get me there haha

I clearly saw him fall, yes! From what, I don’t know! It was odd to say the least!

his fight with silva was every bit as boring as this last one, Silva said he wanted to take that fight into the later rounds, but cote couldn’t even dance with silva with out getting droped, so what makes him think he could fight with him.

do not get me wrong I do not want to see Silva and Cote again,but I highly doubt he would fake an injury to get out of the fight ,he had already proved that he could survive,why after 3 rounds would he go oh now I should take a dive

True. If he took a dive, he wouldn’t have underwent re-constructive surgery and had to sit out 9 months. Kevin, try thinking with your thinking head, not your man-boner for any fighter not Canadian.

I never said he took a dive! I actually think it’s the opposite, I think it was a pre existing injury. I give him more props for not pulling out of the fight! The going down untouched was suspect, but I do think the injury was real!

Hahaha GDM…Good one. I have zero desire to see Silva vs. Cote again, but truth be told he did take some good shots and kept coming forward.

What do you mean? GSP raped BJ so badly that BJ was crying about vaseline after.

Besides, Kobe is a self-absorbed tool. Let’s not sully GSP’s good name by comparing him to that asshole.

well silva dances in the club with shirts saying i f*ck on the first date so hes up there with those guys :P

I had a feeling if I posted this comment good things would follow. Any you guys didn’t dissapoint.

Decent!

Fedor is MJ!!!! U dont see Fedor boring people on his way to wins! hahahahaha

lol, good point John!
Fedor/Silva at 205!!!!

Kevin: we could call that ppv…the Death of the spider! lol

LOL john, more like “The Emperor’s Last Stand”.

Get real! U know what Fedor would do to guys like Leites, cote, Marquardt!

I dont see Anderson beating Arlovski any time soon!

Ufc 110: “Bug Spray”

Fedor vs. Anderson!

a spiders not a bug…

bug yes, insect no

A spider is a bug.bugs are those insects that have mouthparts adapted for piercing and sucking(Mandible)

F’in Science NERDS!!!!! lol

UFC 97 should have been called: “Arachnophobia”…. I love tHales but I have never seen someone so scared of the spider! hahahaha

LOL Good one!

when did he take Rashad down with ease? in training? a white belt can put submissions on a brown belt in training, do you know why???

Yes in training,but you know that they were really going at it.Yes I know it is practice and they are trying to make the person better,but we all know that GSP has become one of the best wrestlers in MMA,so it was not like a white belt training with a brown belt,come on Kevin,you are usually a lot better than your arguments have been today

I’m not saying he’s not a good wrestler, but taking down Rashad in practice and taking down Silva (while throwing knees, elbows and fists) in a fight are two different things! Say he takes him down (lutter is way bigger than GSP), then what? I just don’t see it being as competitive as you think. I’ll add another logical explanation, we all want Silva to move up to LHW. But you think a WW is going to give him trouble? GSP would get murdered by a guy like Bisping at LHW, never mind Silva!

That is how you see,I personally think GSP would beat Bisping,GSP is really not that small,he ,right now fighting at 170 walks around at 190,when he moves up,he odviously will put on more muscle,I just think with his skillset,he is so well rounded that he would give Silva problems and very well could get him down and gnp him out,he may not be the most decorated at BJJ but how he uses it in MMA is incredible ,he passes right threw most fighters guard,he almost mounted BJ ,and you know that is very hard to do,and we know BJ is better on his back than Anderson.You as big of a MMA fan as you are,should love the thought of them two stepping in octagon to fight each other.One step closer to actually being able to crown a true P4P champion

scott, I 100% want to see that fight. I also (even though I’m not a fan) 100% see GSP as the top WW! I just don’t see the fight being as competitive as many of you think it will be!
Enzo, I’m not saying he faked the injury, I’m simply saying it may not have happened at the moment he went down. Here’s why: he pulls out of the fight, he doesn’t get paid! He gets hurt in training and the cost of repairing the knee is on him, he steps into the octagon and gets hurt, the cost is the UFC’s!

Kevin I know you live out in California,but was your wife briefed on any outbreaks on the east coast ,like any where near SC.

I don’t know bro, all I know is she has a van full of something to be dropped off at 2 other VA’s today!

Im sick of all the freaking Idiots trying to tell me that GSP’s lil ass can beat Middleweights, let alone the middleweight kingpin! GTFO here! There are weight classes for a reason! Whats next? Miguel Torres moving up to fight fedor? Give me a break!

Guys,i told you before,and like Scott said.When GSP’s gonna face the spider,he’ gonna be at 200 pounds or more.Right now he is at 190,and he said many times,that he,would put up more pounds before facing Sylva.So all your arguments,of weight class,size,or strength,can go right into the garbage.

his lil ass ,have you seen him in person,he is really not that little.I have not seen him in person ,but I know some people that went up to Montreal to see him train all they could talk about was how huge his legs are,you are being pretty rediculous to even act like he could not compete at 185.But to contredict what you said,I could have swore ,you were jizzing in your pants last week at the news of an exibition grappling match between Fedor/Aoki.Like Fedor is not going to be able to just over power Aoki.John,you are being pretty silly thinking that GSP would not have a chance, it is not like he is jumping up to HW

any moron watching TV can see his legs are huge. Scott, you’ve been a great debate today, but you can’t start a sentence with “have you seen him in person” and then next sentence say “I’ve never seen him in person.” kinda defeats your argument!

I know that ,I just didn’t feel like changing it,but his point about lil ass is also kind of retarded,I was just trying to remind people he is not little,but you are right I felt like a jack ass after I typed it up

you are right ,I just did not feel like changing it after I typed it up.I was trying to remind john he is not that little ,but I did feel like a re,re after I typed it

lol, no biggie. I did rewatch the first penn/GSP fight last night…damn it was close!

GSP might weight 200 come fight time but Anderson will weigh about 220 and have about 4 inches on GSP. This isnt a knock on GSP at all…He is easily one of the best p4p fighters on the planet and the best welterweight that the world has ever seen…but I honestly believe that there are weight classes for a reason. I truly dont think that GSP would beat Middleweights like Hendo, Maia, Marquardt…so y waste our times and tons of marketing crap on another mismatch like Penn vs. GSP was? Thats all I am saying. At least Penn had proved that he could move up in weight in the past and beat top fighters, like when he beat Hughes….If you guys really want to see GSP vs. Silva fine…but b4 we waste our time with another mismatch..I ask that they make GSP take a fight against a top 8 middleweight….if he wins, Fine….bring on the Mega fight with the spider!

I want to see Anderson fighting up a weight class, because I think he can beat most if not all of them….how can I possibly then think that he will struggle with a natural welterweight. U cant have it both ways. If u think he can be one of the best at 205….then you cant think a welterweight has a legit shot against him!

as for your stupid Fedor/aoki comment. Its a grappling exhibition you fool….Not a fight. where someone much bigger is punching you in the mouth! U ever watch a grappling tournament? THere are unlimited weight classes, with fighters of all weights grappling against each other, and lighter weight grapplers often do really well against the biggest of competitors.

So there, I just WRecked your entire argument. Tell me what sentence of this post you can possibly disagree with!

yes,I have seen grappling tournaments,but it still a huge mismatch for Fedor who is great at grappling,against a lw (aoki)who is great at grappling,hum what is the x factor maybe the fact that he weighs 70 pounds more and is a hell of alot stronger.Also john,we are both fans of the sport who have different opinions,I did not say anything disrespectful to you,try to refrain from calling me a fool ,you usually are not that way,oh I forgot I insulted your god,my bad (just messing with you )

but to your point about GSP ,I too,would like to see him fight another MW before he fights Anderson.

U r right, I appologize…I will say, once u get more familiar with me, u will realize that I dont mean those things as insults, but no excuse…I shouldnt say those things to other people with oppinions. My bad!

Fedor vs. Aoki isnt a grappling match, its not a fight….its a quirky 5 minute exhibition to maker those crazy Japanese fans happy!

and Yes, u did Insult my gOD!!!! hahaha

John you post no good arguments on this one.You really think that Anderson,would weight 220 at the time of the fight when it supposed to be at 185?Aspecialy when he was weighting 182 at his last fight,thats a 35 pound drop,damn if he,can do that i’m f..king impress.Then you said that he got 4 inch reach advantage,well you should check before talking because he’ got 1,5 inch difference Sylva’s got 77,5 and GSP 76.Marquart and GSP are almost the same size and GSP is stronger physicly,quicker,and better in all aspect of the game.Maia wouldn’t stand a chance against the striking of GSP,and if you think that he,would get submitted,well your wrong again.He know damn well how to handle BJJ guys.His BJJ is,very underrated,the guy got His black belt just before the BJ Penn fight an look what he was capable to do before.He sub Trigg Hughes,would have submitted kos also if that wouldn’t be of a grabbing of shorts.He’s really getting better at leg locks,train constantly in Brazil,and pass BJ’s guard at ease,like we never seen before.I’m telling you dude the guy is a sure bet and real legit.Now the,only thing that i accord you is that he might have problems against Hendo,because he’s real good greco wrestler and a tuff sob who don’t get KO.Then again i believe that,he would out strike Hendo with his speed and reach,cause Hendo got 74 inch.So if you still think that the Sylva/GSP fight,would be a one way fight and i lost of time…Well i don’t know much more what to say,to try to convince you,to change ship!I guess we,can always bet if that fight happen.

good post alpha,and your straight john,I know you are usually on here all the time,and I figured it was because I mentioned Fedor,so I really did not get offended,just wanted to point it out to you,because usually we are on the same side of certain issues.Everybody has one thing that will fire them up real quick ,and yours happens to be Fedor.
To Alpha,actually you are probably right about Henderson giving him the most problems due to the wrestling,but I never thought GSP would try to outwrestle Kos,which he did ,so he might shock people,and take Henderson down before Henderson can shoot in on him,but why am I going on about this fight,if it ever happened it would be like 2-3 years down the road,but again good points

Nice theory Kevin, but Cote wouldn’t have to pay a cent to get his knee fixed in the wonderful country you hate. If you think Cote ditched out of that fight in any way shape or form, you’re not very good at reading people.

Alpha: I made a mistake in my post…I didnt mean to write that he had a 4 inch reach advantage…I ment to say a 4 inch height advantage…so your post really isnt even a rebuttal to mine, since you go on and on about reach advantage.

Alpha: All I ask is that if we have to sit through a 4 month crazy advertising campaign that will happen before the GSP/Silva fight…all I ask is that the UFC PROVE to us fans and to the spider that GSP can beat a top middleweight first. BJ Penn proved in the past that he could beat a top WW, so I didnt mind him moving up to challenge GSP even though it ended up being a complete waste of our time…That shouldnt be too much to ask.

I am a firm believer that there are weight classes for a reason. Show me that he can beat a top middleweight, and then I will happily watch GSP vs. THe spider…..is that really too much to ask? I dont think Im asking for too much here.

Alright,calm down! i give you that,He should fight another MW before the spider,but we both know that wont happend.Plus i can’t argue with you the fact that weight class are important.But i’m still believe that your wrong about what you think of this hole thing.BJ did beat Hughes true!That is the reason that people think he’s,one top p4p fighter.To me he’s got lucky in,one fight over is weight,and build his name on that victory.Just,like Serra did.The proof his that when he came back from heavier fights,Hughes beat him.Since then he never got able to beat a guy heavier than,him.So i guess we,can argue on that.Then what you wish is not realistic and you know it.GSP wont fight another MW because everyone,like "Dana"whant a super fight.So there not much to argue there either.I’ll say let just wait and we,will see if that was such a bad idea for a match up.And i hope that if you where wrong that you give GSP a little bit more credit in the future.

why are people so happy to wish for something bad to happen to GSP,what has he done to all you guys ,he is very respectable,great athlete,what because he does not lick blood and talk about fighting to the death(I can’t answer the bell after the third round).What does he have to do for you guys to appreciate his talent ,I am sure he is really sorry that he has some cardio,and does not have to run under water with a rock

just being real, gsp is the best ww, no brainer. However, he doesn’t belong in the cage with silva. i along with kevin do not see this fight as being competitive, and gsp fans are starting to get under my skin, and are hyping the guy to much better than he is, wich is pretty hard because he is very very good. For the record i think BJ won their first fight, and ever since serra floped him he has become the best man humper in mma

go back and watch the first fight,they replayed it last night on spike,there is no way you can say BJ won that fight,the first round was BJ’s,but it was no where near a 10-8 round ,and GSP clearly won the 2nd and 3rd,and to your man humper award,do you not think that he has a chance humping Anderson all the way to a decision,he had no problems holding BJ down in the second fight and I think it is harder to take and hold down Penn than it would be to do it to Silva

lol, calm down guys, nothing but love for Canada and it’s fine citizens.
“he did nothing on his feet.” are you serious? Leites was bloodied and probably not walking sunday morning.

I am sorry guys ,I have to say it ,why are we still talking about that fight? Damn if the fight did not give us our moneys worth,all the conversation after the fact has more than paid for it self

Yeah, and he also spent most of Saturday night taking a seat too. Ok, he might not have done “nothing”, but he sure didn’t do much.

lol, I agree, he got the win, Leites did nothing, end conversation!

I usually bite my lip Kevin, but seriously! I dont know what your deal is, but damn bro what happened to all the educated posts? Its not even the same Kevin that I used to post with. Its like you are just posting bullshit to get noticed or something.

Cote was engaging, bottom line. His fight was ten times better than Leites’. How could you even argue that? That is crazy.

Even implying that Cote could have faked that injury is plain dumb. You are obviously saying that to get some kind of response. He had surgery on it!

Cmon man, get back to the old Kevin and start posting some relevant stuff.

I do appreciate the info on the swine flu tho… lol ;)

Give Kevin a break today, guys. He’s clearly suffering from some sort of swine flu-induced fever that is preventing his brain from making simple calculations.

I’m sure he just needs to lie down and imagine Tom Brady leading a US Special Forces brigade over the Canadian border… that will make him feel better.

lol, with moss as corporal!!!

LOL.