I hope he submitts him with anything

Aoki via spreed-eagle.

Aoki via flying butt scoot toe bar…

lol great how roy? Sakuri swept aoki easily, and this is great? You guys amaze me sometimes! I like your honesty and respect your opinion, but cmon are you serious?
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today I’ll either be their or bay101 in san jose
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yeah i am serious i don’t get the hate you have for it.

Wow….about all I can say. I have to agree with Kevin on this one. This is horrible. About 80 pound difference between them and Fedor is used to playing with guys like Zuluzinho. Aoki is going to be like a blow up doll comparably. I donno. Whatever I guess.

I think its great Kevin. sorry if I am curious to find out how good Aoki’s grappling is when he doesnt have to worry about strikes. Aoki is going to try exotic stuff, and I think it will be awesome. Dont look at it as a fight, its a showcase…enjoy it for what it is. Sorry, but I adore grappling…and I think its cool. Both guys have big fights coming up in the summer…its cool to see this while they await there next fights….neither would take a fight before their next scheduled fights…so at least we get to see them showcase the ground game. aoki is fast, Fedor is like a cat….we get to see how fast compared to a lightweight…I dont mind it at all,..I THINK ITS cool and all of you guys are damn liars if you say you wont come online the next day and search the video and watch it.

“both have big fights coming up this summer.” can you please name them?

Exactly,watch Fedor fight Monsoon next,he has fought a total of 4 minutes this year,but he can go roll around with Aoki for 5 minutes,waste of time.

aoki is in the gp, and Fedor is obligated to fight at Affliction 3.

and comparing it to a grappling match between Forrest and Aoki is stupid. I hate Frank MIr, but say he was going to put on a grappling exhibition against bJ Penn….I would be happy to watch it, so I dont really know what you are talking about. Me n you are fundamentally different. YOu are just a negative person…Im not, and I can enjoy this for what it is, an exhibition!

negative, no. realistic, yes.
who will be Fedor’s big opponent? Monson?
I’d rather see him fight: Rampage, Shogun, shad or even destroy Brock.
No John, I’m really not negative, I just don’t see the point in this!

by the way John, you made my point. Put Forrest in their and it’s stupid, but because it’s fedor it’s cool. I respect and admire how tightly you stick with your favorites, sometimes I just wish you could see things with an open mind! Like I said last week, Fedor could OJ his wife and get convicted, rampage and shogun could rape a whole convent and you’d stand by them and make excuses for them. Like I said, I do admire your loyalty. I give you credit too, the guys you hate (mir, forrest) you do hate no matter what.

kevin not trying to hate on you, but you don’t seem as open minded as you think and you come off as a hater quit a bit.i like that we can disagree and the next day agree and its all good but i am just calling it like i see it.

I would see it if I weren’t a Fedor fan roy! I’m a fan and think this is ridiculous! If BJ (my fav fighter) was going to grapple that kid with no arms and legs, I’d be saying the same thing. My keeping it real may come off as hating, but it’s just that I’m not going to think and be fooled by every gimmicky thing out there..SORRY!
It’s like John saying Mir is out of shape after a 2 bad matches after a motorcycle accident that he was supposed to never fight again after, but saying Shogun had surgery. I call it as I see it whether I like a fighter or not. If it comes off as hating, my bad, but at least it’s consistent!

-Mir was out of shape before his surgery!

-I hate Mir more then I hate Forrest, and I stated I would be interested if it were a grappling match between MIr and BJ, so I dont know what you are talking about.

-you dont see the point, but yuo just dont get it…the exhibition is NOT for you, its for his millions of Japanese fans that this sort of thing is appealing to!

there is a big differnce than fighting a guy with no arms and legs, and the difference with mir imo is that he wasn’t that good before the accident, he had alot of trouble with sims and beat sylvia who didn’t respect his bjj.it funny you say you don’t fall for every gimmicky thing out there but you seem to fall for every thing dana says.

lol, what did Dana say?

Im a hater, i hate John, i hate Kevin, I hate Fedor and i hate having a small dick. Since when was hating things not allowed. Haters of the world stand up… now go fuck yourselfs.

If you have to think about it ,you do not have a clue,of course Fedor is going to win

good point Robert

horrible point robert, bj was never injured and he has not defended his belt since may of 2008. dana wants more control of fedor than he is willing to give, and how is aoki (or any one else) going to put the last emperor on the injury list for 6 months? plus so many guys get injured in training already, if you are a fighter you are going to get injured no matter what

so?? whats that have to do with what Robert said…he didn’t say it was right he said that’s why Dana does it

He is not dana and has no idea why he does the things he does. my point is that an exhibition match will produce less injury than a hard training session any day imo and dana (and fedors mgmt alike) have got to swallow their pride, come to an agreement, and recognize how great this would be for the sport of MMA. give the fans what they want!

good post child, I agree the two sides need to swallow their pride and meet in the middle!

hey douche (I mean lee) I respect John’s opinion on everything that’s not Fedor, Rampage or Shogun. Read my response to Roy, I respect his opinion, but I’m trying to figure out what is entertaining about this. It’s my opinion, not trying to be right, look up the word “opinion!”

I think seeing two of the worlds best grappler’s face off will be entertaining and I am interested to see how Aoki deals with Fedor’s size. I doubt that there will be enough time to really learn anything but it should be interesting none-the-less.

After all, isn’t Jujitsu supposed to be the great size equalizer?

A) I am not a douche

B) I didnt criticize your opinion. You need to see it for what it is. Everyone knows that Fedor is far too strong for Aoki, thats why its not important. Its just a bit of fun, its a grapping match. These happen in gyms around the world, there just happens to obviously be people who want to see it. It will help promote the other fighters on the card and get people who wouldnt normally have watched the event to tune in – which is good for getting unknown fighters recognition to help the sport grow.

exactly lee this will get more people to watch m-1 witch is a pretty good show on its own.

yep

If this is gay so is All-Star Weekend, the dunk contest, home run derby, 3-point shootout, the Harlem Globetrotters, and any other EXHIBITION. It’s done for the Japanese fans, and I guarantee you they’ll love it. Don’t really see how this is gay as it’s not real competition.

I’d be curious to see the reaction if it was BJ/Fedor grappling as opposed to Fedor/Aoki

same reaction, now if it were BJ/Aoki, I’d be wiping myself off right now!

I bet you didn’t have a problem with Machida and BJ fighting though did you Kevin? And that was a real fight.

look at the outcome…and Machida isn’t Fedor!!!

the fight was actually a good fight between bj and machida, and bj came it at like 189lbs…

aoki couldnt carry that kind of weight

BJ cant either apparently haha! And not to nit pick but I think it was 187.

But in all serious, BJ was exposed by GSP who is a huge 170 no doubt but still a 170’er. And Machida weighted even more than he did now for that fight, he weighted in at 215!!!

The outcome was BJ lost, not sure your point there. And I see you ignored the bulk of my post centering on the the fact that this is an exhibition.

and yes, I’ll watch it!

you think it’ll be televised?

i respect your opinion, but you act like where crazy for liking it, you say convince you its worth your 5 mins. but why would i try to convince you i don’t care if your not interested in it but i am, i love when mma fighters fight in k-1 i would love to see some boxers fight in mma and mma guys fight in boxing i love a grappling match between to freat fighters even if there is a huge weight advantage it gives it a different twist,wouldn’t it be something if aoki won.

Fedor would do just that if he were in the UFC.

And yes….so would Dana.

exactly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FEfTuTuK6w

this has nothing to do with that fight, different promotions and this is a exibition.

but Choi is a way below average fighter,he only had 1 MMA bout going into that fight.and that was just a freak show 7"2 foot 352lbs with very little skill in MMA.

and this isn’t a fight, what about semmy schilt.

what about Semmy Schilt?
I know that fedor won by Unan -Dec.

big weight difference, fedor fights guys way bigger than him so whats wrong with others wanting to challenge themselves?

I know that this is JUST an EXIBITION.I am just saying that I would rather see him in REAL MMA bouts against Hwts.not WASTING his time with EXIBITION matches.

What Levi said. Feder rolling around with Maia is nice enough, but I want to see the self-proclaimed best in the world actually put that to the test against real talent in his weight class.

This is a diversion, nothing more.

again it does not affect his future fights, and its not wasting any time.

he only fights 2-3 times a year,so yea he is wasting time with this EXIBITION.now he probably won’t defend his wamma title unti late 2009 if he does defend it at all.
he wants to be the best ,then stick to fighting REAL MMA.
LEAVE EXIBITION MACTHES TO THE WWE

Question #1, how much is he making???? Now he has some years left, but an exhibition like this in Japan, is probably paying him a boatload, and all you yahoos whining about this would jump at the chance for an easy pay day like this.

Japan is not the USA, and they worship Fedor over there.

From a business end, a great idea for him, if he loses to this guy, then people start questioning his ability, then he goes out and bashes barnett’s face in, then he can sign with Dana, beat up Lesnar, Couture or anybody else they throw out there.

LOL no sh^t levi but many MMA fans look solely at a fighters record to determine how good he is Cro Cop is wishing he followed Fedors steps.

levi you really don’t get it, yeah he fights 2-3 times a year at best, and this will not change that it has nothing to do with his fight contract it will not make him fight more or less he will fight at affliction 3 if there is one and after that who knows but this will not change anything.

and puck what should we look at than please explain?and please tell me who is the better hw.

if Aoki can pull off an upset and injure fedor in the process,then it will affect his future.

exactly, and this is the reason UFC has exclusive contracts. Levi, some guys don’t get it. It’s like MLB or NBA or NFL guys who can’t ski or even ride a motorcycle. Look how it affected the Warriors this year…all from a moped, yet this guy (who I love to watch fight) wants to do sambo and grappling contests. If he gets hurt, not only the company he’s fighting for loses, we the fans lose too!

exactly kevin you guys just don’t get it, and never will

what if a fighter got injured during training and had to pull out of a fight, no more training before fights.what if they stubbed there toe leaving the house, no more leaving the house.there is less chance of injury in this match up than there is in the training they do daily get over it this exhibition means nothing try to enjoy it

how so roy? I can bring up many athletes that have ruined their careers (and teams chances) by playing pick up games and doing other “harmless” things. What am I wrong about? A company paying someone millions shouldn’t want to protect their investment? Because like it or not, the athletes are commodities or “assets” and the company/team has the right to protect their investment!

lol, you amaze me roy! So now getting injured while practicing like you’re supposed to is the same as sky diving or skiing? cmon man, you usually think a little more rationally!

by the way Roy, I will watch it! If aioki submits Fedor or Fedor gets hurt, then what? Not like he has anyone to fight at afflictions 3rd event anyways (I’d like to see Vitor) but what if?

you hit the nail right on the head Kevin.about injuries in other sports. I remember a couple of years ago Chicago bulls drafted a big kid named Jason williams and he couldn’t play for them after he was in a motorcycle crash.now the majority of major sports franchises put stipulations in contracts so that players don’t engage in potentially dangerous activites. that’s why if fedor was in the UFC he wouldn’t be allow3ed to do this.
if fedor gets hurt then affiction won’t have many good Hwts other than Barnett.

By what roy is saying Fedor can fight bottom ranked fighters once or twice a year the rest of his career and he would still be ranked #1? If that’s all takes GSP should back out of the Alves fight and fight guy’s like Hughes and Serra the rest of his career then he can keep his ranking yeah that should bring him even more respect as well?…What a great idea I think I’m going to ask to be his manager and protect his legacy hell I’ll even put him up against a 205er Ken Shamrock!?

no kevin you miss the point this is no more dangerous than training.get real this is not skydiving.

puck like always you just talk nonsense just answer the question so i can show you how wrong you are. who should fedor fight? and who is better than fedor? other wise just stick to trolling.

I get that roy, you’re right! But in the big scope, it kinda turned into the UFC and a contract. My point was I see the point of a team/Company not allowing extracurricular activities! But again, you’re right, I don’t see him getting injured doing this. But then again Boone didn’t expect to ruin his baseball career plaing a pick up basketball game!

roy I think most fans know who fedor should fighting? To start off Barnett it would be great if Affliction #1 guy went at least against their #2. Second he should fight against couture yes couture is getting old and would probally lose but couture has wanted this fight for so long he might have enough for one more great fight in him and for what he has done for MMA he deserves it, next is the UFC champ if he wins he defends it for three more fights, if he loses he still fights three more either way he at least has fought the best current day HW fighters. his latest fights have proved nothing as the PPV results clearly show.

not couture beaver. I don’t think too many people have any interest in that fight besides couture!

good response beaver, i see it the same way execpt i think the ppv buys have more to do with ufc being the top promtion than fedor, alot of people only watch ufc and are not fully into mma.do you think there is some one better than fedor.

I don’t think you can say anyone is with out a doubt the #1 unless they all fight. One thing the UFC does well is make sure the champion earns his keep of the belt the #1 contender always gets a shot so whoever is the champion deserves it and the respect that comes with it. With saying that has Fedor really challenged himself enough to improve or at least stay at the level of fighter he was at pride and is that level good enough now days? I don’t know but I would like to find out. I’m a guy that like Brock and not because of WWE but because of his true wrestling skill and fighting attitude he has all the tools yes Fedor is with out a doubt a better fighter but Brock has some big advantages that I think will counter the advantages for the most part that Fedor has either way I would like to see the fight and I would not be suprised if Brock pulled it off. Of coarse there is Barnett another one of my favourite who I think would also could pull it off if he can get Fedor down to the ground, Mir who has looked good lately would cause some problems as well his stand up has looked good and the BJJ battle on the ground would be fun to see I think Fedor strength would win that battle and I would be surprised if he won but I think it would be a enjoyable fight and Carwin who has great striking and power to KO anybody he also is trained by jackson and whatever Fedor’s weaknesses are I think Jackson would have Carwin with the best game plan out of any fighter would he win?? I just would like to see it then there would be facts and no doubt as there is cleary by this thread alone. Right now everything posted is opinion including my comments.

Well apparently the UFC let’s their fighters ride motorcycles so there goes that argument. Also, I don’t know if you saw my response to you a while back Kevin, but you compared the UFC keeping Fedor out of Sambo to the NBA or MLB TEAMS not allowing their players to ride motorcycles, etc. It’s an awful analogy and is completely different. The NBA and MLB allow their players to play in the olympics and World Baseball Classic(i.e. national competitions). Sambo is a sport Fedor does for national pride, and is not comparable to the NBA or MLB teams excluding certain activities from certain players.

I would have to say it depends on the injury rate from Sambo wich I don’t know, basketball doesn’t have a high injury rate I know that? Is Sambo the only reason they can’t agree I thought he wanted to fight for other organizations as well if he signed?

your the only one sounding foolish, its always your love or nutthugging is blinding you. thats a cop out when you can’t win so answer who is better than fedor or like i said your just trolling.

hey roy? are your arguing with puck? dont be man!! how many times do i have to tell you guys to not argue with that kid? imagine someone thinking of the mma rankings and record when a guy is having an exhibition match…laughable but true..that’s how smart that puck kid is..

gaara I thought me and your mom told not to be on this site you act up way to much after being on here lol. if you actually read any of the post you just might realize we were not talking about the exhibition match so stay in school little man.
 And for roy I believe Brock can beat him. Do I think he can win for sure no but I wouldn’t watch MMA if the fights were for sure I just think Brock is too big and powerfull for the much smaller Fedor brock isn’t like any other big guy in MMA he has skills and endurance to last against anyone yes his experience is lacking and the chance of him making a mistake or much greater but if he fights a smart fight and doesn’t make a mistake that would leave him in a easy submission he should win?

cool puck but you also say fedor fights nobodies, so you opinion of brock is also based on what you have seen him do in the cage witch is lose in 90 seconds beat herring who fedor destroyed and beat a 45 year old randy.i can’t see how that is better than who fedor has faced and won.

OK AA and tim are somebodies but they should not be fighting for a title they would not be in the top four or five in the UFC alone now day’s. And Hong man Fedor’s third last fight was beat by Cro Cop lately? I think Cro Cop would be rated as the third or fourth best HW in the world if he never came to the UFC? Brock was going to town on Mir and got caught being over aggressive I don’t think that will happen twice but we will see won’t we?

i think brock will kill mir, but brock still has alot to prove.and if aa or tim was in the ufc they would be fighting for titles thats all they did when they where there.

Couture and NOG beat off Tim…let me rephrase that Couture and NOG both defeated Tim before tim left and Tim beat AA twice before AA left? Yes there was a time when they were champions but that time has long past when the UFC division didn’t have much talent to offer. I don’t know if either of them could beat Cro Cop to tell you the truth.

I would put both Tim and AA in the same talent bracket as Herring, Werdum,Cro Cop and Overeem. Any one of these two fight each other and it should be a great battle.

and besides no one can ever fool puck kid!!!

“LOL as long as his record stands fools will be fooled”

record for exhibition games…also roy because jordan won in the slamdunk competition against wilkins everyone were fooled by him being the best!!

hope u get what i mean roy…no one can ever fool puck kid!!

Thats right gaara so stay in school and one day you might be able to actually talk about something besides me.