MMA Quick Quote: Gina Carano would 'probably' choose the UFC over Strikeforce
by Jesse Holland on Apr 23, 2009 11:53 AM EDT
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Frankly, I am absolutely unmotivated by money. And I know that maybe people take that and don't understand what that means, but I am just not. What I am interested in is people that have respect. Not only respect for me, but people who have respect for women in MMA ... I have sat down with Dana and (Zuffa co-owner) Lorenzo (Fertitta) and they have expressed interest and want to do something, but I am a little weary because I know that Strikeforce is signing women and the "Cyborg" fight is over there ... I think that I would probably pick Zuffa (over Strikeforce) because that's the big show, you know? To be a part of that would be amazing, but you know, here comes Strikeforce and they've got this CBS and Showtime deal and they are working their way up into being good competition ... They've built their company on some good roots and now they are ready to branch out on Showtime and CBS. But as of right now, the UFC is the big show, and for a female, it would be an amazing opportunity.
– Former Elite XC female mixed martial arts mega star Gina Carano provides MMA Fanhouse with an update on her contract negotiations in a recent interview. "Conviction" has not competed since a three-round drubbing of Kelly Kobold in October 2008, winning via unanimous decision and pushing her perfect record to seven wins versus zero defeats. She has long been rumored to meet up with Brazilian Chute Boxe-trained striker, Christian "Cyborg" Santos. However, the highly anticipated match up has never materialized on numerous occasions for various reasons. Santos recently planished Hitomi Akano at Strikeforce: "Shamrock vs, Diaz" on April 11 and Carano indicates the fight could finally happen if she eventually ends up in Strikeforce … or will she?
(Photo courtesy of Esther Lin)
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this has nothing to do with ducking cyborg ??
by Bill Maher on Apr 23, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
alright fellas, off to play cards, enjoy your day!
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t think it does. She is exactly right in what she said. It would be HUGE for her to be the first to bring women’s mma to the UFC. It is the biggest mma show on earth. I would love to see Dana make this happen. There are some that just don’t like women fighting mma but every single fight I’ve seen, the women bring it because they have something to prove. And 100% no doubt a fight between Gina and Cyborg will have more fireworks than the Anderson/Thales fight we all just got done watching!!!
by brac on Apr 23, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it is to duck Cyborg. I think almost every fighter, male or female, would choose the UFC over Strikeforce.
by naturalshadow on Apr 23, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you that it isnt her ducking Cyborg, but if you truly beleive that almost every fighter would choose the UFC over Strikeforce you’re crazy! Alot of people “duck” the UFC because they know their successful careers wont be as successful in the UFC!
by ilikadabudweiser on Apr 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That is true. I should have added that they would have to be legit top fighters.
by naturalshadow on Apr 24, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe she’s holding out for more money from Playboy? That’s where I’d like to see her.
by UFC Champ on Apr 23, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Or holding out for penthouse for even more money.
by Alex on Apr 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad the UFC has no interest!
cyborg by KO at 155-160 catch weight!
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
Whenever I hear the words “mega star” and Gina Carano in the same sentence I literally laugh out loud. Thanks Jesse.
by Jeremyjackson on Apr 23, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, she is saying she has sat down with Dana and Lorenzo? Didn’t Dana say your won’t see Women in the UFC?
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
she meant she went down on them to try to get into the UFC…she failed!
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
If you read the article you will notice she mentions, that she would rather be signed by Zuffa. And Dana has said publicaly that maybe the WEC would be intresting in adding a women’s division, but who knows how far away that is.
by RockhardMMA on Apr 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
True true. WEC would be a good starting point. I’m not a big fan of womens MMA but you never know. Anyone know how the WEC shows do in comparison to the Strikeforce events?
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
HA HA HA HA HAHAHAAAAAA! Although, after that lip biting animate gif from the last strikeforce show, maybe Dana is reconsidering.
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
score 2 for kevin, first the chuck sleeping comment now this! pricelss
by Andrew on Apr 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
hahHA what a homo. Good comment loser.
maybe she forgot to swallow. Maybe you should corner for her in the next meeting cause i bet you know your way around a cock and could have her in the main event in no time
by What? on Apr 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a homo for making a joke? Some of you guys need to come up with something better to do then ride my nuts and wait for my comments. I love it how a bunch of guys laugh and think it’s funny and you still insist on being “that guy.”
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
first I have to say kudos for actually letting that one get posted, didnt think that would happen. And I dont mean “gay/homo” I mean “gay/lame joke” same tired worn out comments on this subject. And I have no problem with you saying that or them laughing about it, i dont see why you even took the time to post back it. I guess unprovoked jokes arent funny from me, only you. hahA. dont take things so seriously, its a mma blog.
by What? on Apr 24, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
The last comment I remember seeing from Dana on this , is that he is interested in putting a women’s division together. But that there are not enough high level or marketable female competitors to build a division around.
by MongoMan on Apr 23, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Cankle-icious
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Apr 23, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
like clockwork. another uninspired cankle joke from the mexi.
by ActionJackson on Apr 23, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ill admit that they did ok in trying to hide them in this pic.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Apr 23, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t care, I still want to hug her in a creepy Uncle kind of way…
by Jesse Holland on Apr 23, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Mex gimme a link to these supposed Cankles…you go on about them but I’ve never noticed what your talking about
by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
True that!i want to see those…Cankles
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Havent you seen any of her fights?
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Apr 23, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha ha she looks like she is looking at her ankles in that pic thinking “what the hell is wrong with them??”
You know Jesse had to search hard for a pic minus the cankles…lol
As for me…I really don’t give a damn…I would personally give it to her in the style of Erik Everhard!!
by Ca$z on Apr 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Mexi has a hot ass girlfriend that’s why his standards are really high…
by MikeD on Apr 23, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see it, but if she does have cankles, she can rest them right near my ears.
War Boobies!
by naturalshadow on Apr 23, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you think Maxim didnt do a full body shot on her in the bathing suit
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Apr 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
2 things Mex hates is Rampage and Gina’s Cankles
by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Truth right there about the Maxim photos. Then again they photoshoped the shit of out her so why not throw em in there.
by NameNotRequired on Apr 23, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.brutalmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/gina_carano_weighin.jpg
Straight up wrong Mexi.
by The Anomaly on Apr 25, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
why would they have women in the UFC??? There is one fight and one fight only people are interested in…Gina/Cyborg and THATS IT! I defy anybody to come up with another 2 women fighters you’d pay money to see…actually if anyone can name 2 other women fighters off the top of their head I’d be surprised….it just wouldn’t sell.
by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
I say take two chicks, throw them in a kiddie pool full of tequila/margarita mix in tight jean shorts and those half a white T-shirts that just hang down to right above the belly button. I wouldn’t mind a “half time” tequila chick battle.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t think of any women fighters, but there are a couple of dudes I would like to see Gina paired up with. They could bring Andy Wang back.
by James S on Apr 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Tara Larosa, Cyborg, Gina, Julie Kedzie, and Kim Couture are the ones that pop in my head right off the bat. And isn’t there one called the karate hottie. We wouldn’t actually be paying to see the women in most circumstances. There’s always the fights I want to see on a UFC card that I’m mainly paying for and then there’s some I don’t care if I see or not. There would be nothing wrong with the UFC or the WEC putting together a women’s division. Just like I said in another post, a fight between Gina and Cyborg will be much more entertaining than the fight we just seen between Anderson and Thales! No doubt about it!
Someone said something about there not being enough talent in the women’s division. You have to start somewhere. There wasn’t a ton of talent when the UFC first started, just a bunch of fighters, but not true well rounded mma’rs. That’s why little ole Hoyce was able to win. He would get destroyed at 170 or 185 now.
by brac on Apr 23, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Karate hottie got beat down a week ago by Alana reid. Supposedly an awesome fight. But you gotta go to Japan for women you’d pay to see. I was never sold on women’s mma until i saw the vale tudo queen at 115 or Satoko Shinashi at 95lbs – sick, sick technique and surprising power too. Good highlights on youtube if you have a few minutes to waste.
by NameNotRequired on Apr 23, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind seeing Michelle Waterson fight that girl Kim Couture is going to fight.
Eventually Tara Lerosa will have to fight Cyborg and Gina.
by naturalshadow on Apr 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Tara’s Jits is legit MMA fighter.. personally I would love to see Kyra Gracie enter this division.
1. Gina Carano
2. Cyborg
3. Tara Larosa
4. Kim Couture
5. Julie Kedize
6. Karate Hottie
7.
8.
9.
10. ( I’m sure there are some other tuff Girls out there..if there are least 10/12 good MMA women fighters.. let them fight in the UFC.
by PhilQNY on Apr 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t seen Kyra Gracie do mma yet, but I would also love to see her. She is hot, and probably could fight at the same weight as Waterson.
by naturalshadow on Apr 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats not even a fair statement. If there isnt money to be made or a stage for the females to show their skills (JUST LIKE THE MALE MMA FIGHTERS TO BEGIN WITH). Ive seen too many M.T. girls go in there and bang it out to pretend like there wouldnt be good fighters if it was made as profitable.
Not to mention the fact that 9 times outta 10 when you have a female bout, they really go out there and go at it.
The same arguements were made with the lighter weight classes at one time.
Im a fan of fighting, if its a good fight i wanna see it. And the ufc is supposed to be about having the best fighters and fights, never was it said it had to be best male fighters.
by What? on Apr 23, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
there is no competition! other than Gina, cyborg and Randy’s wife (notice you don’t even have to use her name), name an interesting match up in women’s mma! please!
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again. as I said. Theres no stage or money for them which means no reason for a lot of women to be fighting in mma, when (if) those things get into place then you will see more female fighters with a higher skill level. Just like with mens MMA. Speaking of which every male mma fighter that i have seen asked about the subject seem have no problem with it, so it just seems strange to me that everyone has such a problem with it.
by What? on Apr 24, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
No one has any problems with it. Most men are just not interested. Most men want to see women in sexy situations and not in a combat atmosphere.
I would prefer to see women’s beach volleyball over women’s MMA.
That’s just the way it is, man.
by OJR on Apr 24, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
so if most females wanted to see guys in sexy situation not fighting, does that mean we should disband MMA for “the sexy show”. hahaha
by What? on Apr 24, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
kevin….do we have to know the names to have great fights? Many times big names make for poor fights. Just let ‘em scrap…..I’ll watch.
by chefdaddy on Apr 24, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically I have two words for the topic of women’s MMA…WNBA. Seriously the reality is Dana White is working a business, to make money. This would flop like the WNBA you could get a minimum number of people to watch the fights but ultimately no one would really care. They have seriously limited draw power and soon once better looking MMA practitioners show up on the scene the novelty will wear off. Then we’ll have just women fighting, and sorry but to me like half of the MMAmaniacs on this site that’s not what I want to pay to see.
Zuffa may entertain the idea on WEC because there is relatively no money invested in that machine compared to the UFC. Just honestly answer this before I get the wrath of the equal-rights contingent: would you feel slighted paying $50 for a UFC event if 1/5 televised fights was Gina Carano versus some can? There are no match ups.
If this is a vote mine is no.
by theTRON on Apr 23, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m amazed no-one’s said ‘BOOBIES!’ yet.
Oops.
by zulu9812 on Apr 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
BOOBIES !!!
Dedicated to b.w., lynx and chefdaddy.
I miss those guys’ posts!
by OJR on Apr 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s a “Boobies!” for ya there, OJR. I miss posting on here. But I work so damn much now, I’ve missed almost every fight in the last 4 months. So….if I posted, I would actually know even less of what I was flapping my gums about than before.
by chefdaddy on Apr 23, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Chefdaddy-
Glad to see you are still around! Don’t worry about not appearing knowledgeable. There are alot of true morons on this site. Trust me, your posts would be appreciated!
by OJR on Apr 24, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The day I see women in the UFC fighting is the day I stop watching.
by xxBAxx816 on Apr 23, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
There is nothing for Gina after the fight with Cyborg, which she will no doubt lose.
If it wasnt about money, she would have signed with Strikeforce already, since they have the rights to her I believe.
Dana has said that they would be interested in her, but also said the UFC wont have a womens division because there are not enough good women fighters to have a whole division.
Either way, she is not going to get a ton of cash in either promotion. There currently isnt a big demand or market for womens MMA to justify the type of money that Gina and her people want. She is a $35/$35 at best.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Apr 23, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
Look, how far can women MMA go anyway. There might be one or two divisions and that is it. Who want to see 170+ weight divisions beside the Mexicutioner? (lol) I think Dana should pass on this one
by CaptainAmerica on Apr 23, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
She claims the UFC has respect for women? Are you kidding me? They have done nothing but bash women’s MMA since the beginning…not to mention the whole “vlog” scandal.
I used to root for Gina, but if she goes to the UFC claiming “they respect women”….she’s ducking Cyborg…plain and simple.
by introvert on Apr 23, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
Dana and Lorenzo have expressed interest? Cool, I could see a womens division in the WEC working. Not in the UFC though, I dont think theres anywhere enough female fighters for a show that big.
by UK_Chris on Apr 23, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
There’s not enough of them, and with respect, everything they can do the mens division champions do better.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I should clarify cause that don’t sound right.. above comment is only related to MMA
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Comment doesn’t really even make sense. If they were as “good” or tough, and strong as men, then they would be fighting the men. Their not, their women. Doesn’t matter if they do it as good as the men (and in some cases they for sure do) all that matters is if they put on good fights. And every womens fight I’ve seen so far, they bring it. Did Thales (bring it) in his last fight? I don’t think so.
by brac on Apr 23, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
True enough, guess I should’ve clarified what I meant; I feel it’s a waste of $$ for me to pay to see a 2nd rate fight when the men in their respective divisions generally put on a better show; though I don’t disagree with your comment on Leites, because even watching Silva circle and kick at a wet paper bag would’ve been just as entertaining.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I still don’t think the general public is ready either. There is just something about 2 women punching each other in the face that’s not appealing.
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to agree with you there; maybe it’s just the way I’ve (and I think most ppl) been conditioned growing up, but seeing a chick with a black eye, bloody nose, busted lip just doesn’t sit well with me.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
me neither…chicks grappling holds the potential for an accidental kiss or grope or clothing malfunction but just striking doesn’t do as much for me
by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The thought of Carano and Cyborg making out in the center of the cage makes me shudder. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. Now, Carano and Arianny, I’d go for that.
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
they should just put two poles up center stage and let Gina and Edith have a strip off.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa, you too McArthur?? Some of you guys are CRAZY, Edith is smoking hot; and no way would she lose, gina’s decent looking but come on, Edith wins off her body alone regardless of what some ppl think of her face. Though imo, that woman is gorgeous.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
For me no women on Earth comes close to Rachelle Leah
by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
actually my home girl Evangeline Lilly comes real close
by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
you think Edith has a nice body? WOW, I’m not into tight skinned huge fake boobs. Anyone who loves that has never had a girl with fake boobs, once you grab them, you never want them again, they feel unnatural!
Yes guys, I’d bend her over, but between the boobs and face, she’s not even close to Gina!
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
wierdness.. Rachelle just doesn’t do it for me.. not that she’s not hot, but something about her just makes me rate her so-so..
by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Edith is awful! I liked how the UFC has nice natural looking girls and not silicon injected freaks.
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares who or with which promotion she fights. Lets just see her some more.
by Jerry on Apr 23, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
take that picture fro mthe other angle PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
by Adam on Apr 23, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Gina vs Kim
Gina vs Cyborg
Gina vs Tara Larossa
thats about it
by Adam on Apr 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Only if she signs with Strikeforce.
Gina in UFC…
Gina vs Handpicked opponent
Gina vs Handpicked oppenent
Gina vs Handpicked opponent
No thanks.
by introvert on Apr 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy $#it!!I wasn’t expecting thatgood one
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 23, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
JESSE THIS STORY MAKES NO SENSE AND CAN YOU SPEAK UP ON WHAT DANA White and or the UFC is doing about in terms of a really crappy show that strike force riveled in their 1st shoetime event.
White has said No to WOMAN in the UFC forever, steadfstly. Period. Dana is a double talker.
by BRENDAN on Apr 23, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
Besides the fact she’s a babe..what happened to the UFC not putting on “circus acts”. Gina should stay w/ CBS-Showtime for a little bit longer. At least until there are more females mma athletes, so they can have a division w/ depth
by robbyc on Apr 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t want to see women in the UFC not my cup of tea and I find it hard to believe dana is seriously interested, dana have said not too long ago he has no interest in women fighting in the UFC. Women need to stick to the little shows, I guarantee it would hurt the UFC if they brought women over to fight.
by nathan on Apr 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Am I being moderated now? Why does it take 15 min for my comments to show up?
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
because you put the same stupid link 5 times in one thread…they want to control the level of douche baggery!
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
douche baggery! LMAO!!! Nice name callery!!
by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
guess I’m on a roll today.
kevin 3
maniacs 0
see what I did there? (TUF last night)
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
What link are you talking about? Certainly not intentional. If they were monitoring the douche baggery, you’d be long gone anyway ;)
by VNDK8 on Apr 23, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, good point! The fedor exhibition in japan link. you really made me laugh out loud!
by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like someone is afraid to get their ass kicked by truly the best in the bizz and you guys know who i’m talking about!I mean this fight has been long coming and she’s avoiding it.Give the people what they want.
by britney on Apr 23, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
As long shes fighting and pulling guard , thennn immm alllllll goooood, uhh yeaaaa
by Jrok on Apr 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
The ufc would benefit greatly by having women on their cards. Everyone complains that there’s not enough talent to pull it off, but that’s not true. Plus, if the ufc opened it’s doors, the talent would grow tremendously. Why would women fighters dedicate their whole lives to mma like the men, if they can’t find work? Give them a chance to shine and work, and more will come
by Josh H. on Apr 23, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
the best move is strikeforce…because its better to be in the 2nd mma company who accomodates women than the premier company which declared that they dont want female mma(by dana white) so they just want to sign Gina because she is soooo popular with the mainstream and she’s good looking….but wont give her a career..Dana just wants control…lol
by tearer on Apr 24, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
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