UFC Quick Quote: Dana White ready for a war on Chuck Liddell retirement issue

thanks in advance mania!

Alright guys, I see a lot of old faces and newer guys talking about 101. We are planning a mmamania trip to the event. We will be getting a luxury box (around 400 and includes food/drinks). We have about 5 seats left. Email me if interested and I’ll give you all the info.
kevjack115@yahoo.com
It will be fun to watch the fights together, and from what I’ve heard, the luxury boxes at wachovia are just above the first level and very nice. get at me!

by kevin on Apr 22, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Would love to go, but am pouring all my extra cash into UFC 100.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One last fight for the Iceman!! Iceman vs Kimbo!!
Let Chuck go out in style and let the dude make some major PPV money! Most of you bloggers (and me) know that Chucky would murder him, but just think of all those other saps who think Kimbo is the real deal. Those sudo fans will pay!
Book it Dana!

by mmamac on Apr 22, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont think he would murder him, all kimbo would need to do these days is land one punch and he would drop chuck, chuck has no chin anymore its time for him to hang em up.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s not about making money it’s about Chuck’s safety…I said this after the Jardine fight he has no chin left and is dangerously slow…alot of guys on here thought I was crazy….Wandy is in the same boat except he has the ability to still knock fighters out Chuck does not

by Robert(1) on Apr 23, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

can’t say I disagree with Dana!
He does definitely seem like a loyal guy!

by kevin on Apr 22, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dana is loyal to the people he likes,
but a business is not about making friends or even being friends with someone cause it gets in the way! It’s about being strictly proffessional and not let personal feelings get in the way.. I can’t really see Chuck working for the UFC, I wonder what kind of a role he would have in the company..

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe off topic,but what you guys think about Fedor/Aoki April 29th.

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 22, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you’re joking right?

by RoB on Apr 23, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

RoB,I’m not joking!It’s a rumor but here it is….:In a report released today by kamipro.com, top heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko will take on lightweight Shinya Aoki in a grappling match to be held on April 29th in the 3rd installment of DEEP M-1 Challenge.

While there has yet to be an official announcement and the idea of this match-up could seem a tad unbelievable, this isn’t the first time these two names have been thrown around in a potential fight. There’s no secret that Japanese promotions love to put on fights featuring their biggest stars, at times ignoring size and reason, and Fedor and Aoki are two of the biggest fan-favorites.

Luckily for us it was announced yesterday that this event will be streamed live on Japan-MMA.

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 23, 2009 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he’s not joking oddly enough

by McArthur on Apr 23, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know what’s odd.It’s that i played football with a McArthur a few year back in MTL.Since that i read that we were at the same event last weekend,it just make me wonder if that’s you!

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 23, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he could be their accountant

by Danza Macabra on Apr 22, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea! I hope Dana means the most famous guy on the earth in MMA, cause he is a basically a nobody when it comes to being a celebrity..

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t buy what Dana White says, I think he’s full of shit. He doesn’t want to pay $500K to a guy who is not marketable anymore (lets face it, he would be hard to put at co-main event right now). It’s pure business for Dana, the friendship and carrying about 39 yr old Chuck is just a lame cover up. He put Randy Couture a 230lb 45 yr old guy against Brock Lesnar who weights 280lb… are you kidding me? Hey, as long as you can make a lot of money IT’S OK!! He’d a damn J… His video blogs are full of shit too, only reason he does them is to improve the public perception of him… the blog with the soldier he did was bs, he would not hang out with the guy if it wasn’t for looking good in blog.

This man is full of shit, big mount small dick.

by Hooner on Apr 23, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree..

by RoB on Apr 23, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Based on Randy’s performances before the Lesnar fight (previous two were wins) he was pretty steady. Chuck on the other hand had lost 3 of his last 4, and was on a decline. So, I don’t think the two guys situations are equivalent. In my opinion, based on Dana’s quote, he does care about Chuck. But I don’t doubt for a second that he will do everything in his power to keep Chuck with UFC.

by DH on Apr 23, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 THINGS.

1. D. White should shut up for the moment on this, say these things to Liddell behind the scenes, let Chuck be the 1 to announce his retirement. If Chuck doesn’t want to retire then D. White can speak up, but for now SHUT UP on it! Let Chuck keep some dignity by not having the BOSS announce his retirement for him.

2. I can see Chuck working for the UFC if he wants to. I just don’t think it’s something he’s wants, not his style. He’s a college grad in acct, he just doesn’t articulate very well. However if he put he put his mind to it, I think he could do anything he wants, including working for the UFC.

by DAVE A on Apr 23, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

one more thing from a proud parent!
well men, a tad off topic but I’m a proud dad. A bully threw my 7 year old down on the ground. my son said and I quote "I didn’t want to hurt him but you said not to start a fight, but not let a bully pick on me." He then punched him in the nose. Bully threw him again and my son punched him again giving him a bloody nose. Norecess for the week, but he said he feels good. I’m very pround of him!
I cashed in a poker tournament too!

by kevin on Apr 22, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I posted on the other thread, but it never showed up. Anyway, props to you and your boy. We need to teach a respecful way of defending ourselves. We may never have to, but we should at least be ready and willing.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your son handled it the right way: He didn’t start the fight, he defended himself and he put a stop to the bullying! You have to teach your kids to always nip it in the bud! Great Job Dad!

by Sofa-King-Toasty on Apr 22, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep!kevin,good job to teach you son to not be instigator,and also not let himself get injured by bully.Without knowing he’s got supporters for is action today!hurray,for “el pequeno”.

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 22, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell him,good shot from all of us.

by scott on Apr 22, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn John quit picking on Kevin’s son already!

by JRE on Apr 22, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey kevin, where are u playing?

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hayward. maybe bay101 in san jose thurs!

by kevin on Apr 23, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dana white is a f#cking douche. if liddell wants to fight again, it’s his damn decision. he’s got one more fight left on his contract…at least let him finish his contract (if that’s what he wishes). or, if LIDDELL decides to retire, then great. but it’s his decision, not dana f’n white’s.

by B_Hos on Apr 22, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

why? I get the impression from what I read and what I see on blogs that Dana really cares about 95% of his guys.
plus, why pay a guy crazy money to fight a can, Chuck can’t beat any top LHW’s!

by kevin on Apr 22, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I completely agree. They need to set him up for some sort of an old guy nostalgia match. I think he should fight Coleman next or maybe Royce Gracie or how about a one time off fight with Sakuraba. Ooh, I have it Chuck vs. Bas Rutten!!!

by DDT on Apr 22, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am actually surprised. Chuck is still marketable. I would have thought Dana would have tried to squeeze every penny he could get out of him on PPVs while letting new talent get that one big name on their resume that moves them to the upper echelon of the division.

by NameNotRequired on Apr 22, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have to realize one thing about Dana; he values loyalty above all else, even above money. Chuck has been completely loyal to Zuffa and Dana and that will be rewarded (to some weird extent by forcing him to retire).

by DDT on Apr 22, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I imagine they’ll pay him off to not take his last fight on his contract. Chuck knows he’s done. It’s just a little hard to swallow when Joe Rogan and Dana White appear to make the announcement for you like 2 f’n minutes after the fight. That was a little cold, but I guess they had to say what people were thinking. Chuck will make the announcement soon but he will make it on his own time. Probably at a press conference with Dana and Hackleman there.

by BulletproofTiger on Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Chuck is to fight again, The ONLY and I mean ONLY fight it should be against is Couture or Coleman. Anyone else would be a disaster and would most likely end in the same result his last 4 fights have ended. I actually think Couture would take it this time. Chuck’s speed has demonished rapidly in the last two years. I hate to see Chuck go but I hate to see him stay at the same time. Like I said…if he’s gonna come back one more time, it has to be against one of those guys his same age.

by c-war on Apr 22, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Couture would work him, imo. Coleman is a different story..

by O damn he got caught on Apr 23, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

chuck vs vera

by the still operator on Apr 22, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yah.. i wanted to see him fight Vera or Franklin

by Synyster on Apr 22, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This would prove nothing for him

by BulletproofTiger on Apr 22, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good call. Go Brandon!

by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Apr 23, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

from dana’s point of view, everyone can at least see and agree on that he dosent want to see his friend get hurt, which also shows a different side to white, a guy who wont let business interfer with friendship, cause we all know that chuck can still make him a shitload of money if he were to continue to fight! the only thing thats off is how vocal white is about this, he does need to shut up and at least give chuck that honour of been able to retire himself, the man deserves that after everything he has done!

by jslim on Apr 22, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Perfect. Agree 100% there. Just can’t help but wonder if he would try and “not make a fking nickel off that ever.” if it was Tito in there instead of a best friend.

by Heaton on Apr 22, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why say something negative about Dana even when he says something we all agree with?

by Punch You in the Ovaries on Apr 22, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont get it either. Hatred for Dana won’t make what he said less true or relevant.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree with what he says, but not how he is going about it! wouldnt it ive been better for white to sit down with chuck in private to discuss this, and make it clear that he wont let him fight! it just seems to me that chuck is the one who has earned his right to announce his retirement!

by jslim on Apr 22, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that’s fair. I can see that.

by Punch You in the Ovaries on Apr 22, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

here is howard davis on chucks performance :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmpMk4qrSd4

also here’s the vid on wandy when asked about chucks retirement and the anderson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45WoaYySaEg

off topic here a bit, but did anyone hear anything about the rumours of evans and rampage getting into an argument at a recent photo shoot??

by jslim on Apr 22, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

very well put
im w. dana on this one. love him or hate him dana’s right. it may be chucks decision but its up to dana not as the asshole president of the ufc but as a friend to help chuck make the right choice. and i dont think many people can disagree that chuck needs to call it quits. getting knocked out like he has been def isnt good for you

by Phil on Apr 22, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We all know Dana speaks what is on his mind,even Chuck said that.Yes they should let Chuck say it,but what if your friends was biting off more than he can chew and is probably going to end up suffering some major damage,do you let him get his butt whipped or do you try to talk him out of it.I would try my best to talk him out of it,but thats me.Remind Chuck of all that he has accomplished in this sport and how he has helped build it into one of the biggest sports in the world.There is nothing else Chuck can do for himself or the sport except get hurt and ruin people’s memory of Chuck Liddell

by scott on Apr 22, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with all of you and that’s what I’ve been saying
since the fight. There is now reason for Chuck to risk being injured.

by DSmith on Apr 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t get why that makes Dana a douche? Even with all the friendship stuff aside. It is not good business to have your most marketable guy getting knocked out every time out, and it’s not entirely Liddel’s decision alone. ANy org you work for has a say in when you are done. it’s not anuthing new or earth shattering. Plus at 39 it may be time to at least think about it.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come to think of it, it is Liddel’s decision if he wants to retire from the sport of MMA, but Dana has every right to decide if he is going to retire a UFC fighter.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually it isn’t Chuck’s decision, its Zuffa’s

by Bill Maher on Apr 22, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Zuffa promotes his fights, but there is a world outside of the UFC..

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you think he is going to turn his back on one of his best friends,he was not even willing to go to a different camp,because of loyalty.I personally think he should retire ,at the least say he is take a year or two off and if he gets the itch to come back then let him ,but not now,there is clearly something wrong, I do not know if it is mental or physical,but he needs to get everything checked.He clearly does have some doubt ,seeing that he went to see the motivational speaker,I forget his name the one who was in Shallow Hal

by scott on Apr 22, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no, I am 99,9% sure that he won’t turn his back against Dana.. but if it wasn’t Chuck he would have never been able to retire him..

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True,I agree,but he sure will force somebody out the door even when they are only 34,you know who I am talking about Rob.Oh yeah did you notice ,even though he supposedly is not worth a crap,who made it on the UFC Undisputed

by scott on Apr 22, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I will go with the whole, take a year off, then make a comeback. I’m kind of on the fence with this situation though. I don’t want Chuck to fight guys that aren’t elite, but I still want to see him fight.

by Synyster on Apr 22, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

true, I thought about that right after i posted.. I would have had to edit him into the game if he wasn’t in it.. I’m curious to see how good he will be..
I’d like to see him come back to finish his career in the UFC too, so they can all be boyz again and finish on a good note, he is after all a UFC hall of famer!

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They will never make him a hall of famer,unless something changes their hate for each other

by scott on Apr 22, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He should already be a hall of famer!.. It’s absurd if they don’t make him that, he’s the biggest draw and the person that has set more records than anyone at the times he fought..
that is probably why i dislike Dana the most he matched Chuck up with guys that he thought Chuck would beat all the time, I mean Rashad just because Tito had just beat him and he wanted to give Chuck a title shot for a win in that fight, and he was all over Shogun right after the Coleman fight just because of Shogun’s name recognition and shape at that time..

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Chuck but it’s sad that it had to go that way..

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it is sad, but Dana is right. The guy is a legend, a former champ, a best selling author, and worth millions. He has done it all and has nothing left to prove.

by Bill Maher on Apr 23, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Too many times in pro sports, hell all sports, athletes that are past their prime stay too long and end up getting hurt. Is money and pride worth living like Muhammad Ali with Parkinsons, Brett Favre as the interception machine, Michael Jordan a shell of his former self with the Wizards, Ken Shamrock, self explanatory.
Sometimes people need to be told and some people need to be protected from themselves. Dana (forcing)Chuck into retirement is the right move, whether you like it or not. He cant defend himself anymore and he doesn’t have “it” anymore. It’s time to call it quits while he is ahead: Healthy, rich with all his faculties working.

Thanks for the memories Chuck, you are the UFC and MMA!

by Sofa-King-Toasty on Apr 22, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very strong words. I wonder if Chuck will finally retire?

by ilikadabudweiser on Apr 22, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yet randy’s still fighting and he’s older….if chuck wants to fight let him fight…

by nameless on Apr 22, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

obviously Randy has better wrestling skills to be able to control guys better! Chuck has a looping punch that leaves his opposite side wide open. BE had a great gif of it. I don’t think Randy should be fighting either, my guess is Nog wil be his last fight too. Nog has slowed and any top HW will kill Randy…don’t even mention Fedor!!

by kevin on Apr 22, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah but has randy lost 4 out of his last five and been finished by either a ko or tko? no. Chuch has slowed down and his chin has dissappeared. chuck has done everything he could do for the sport and he needs to have the brains to hang up the gloves, he has nothing else to prove he will go down as one of the most dominant champions in mma history.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i meant to say that chuck was knocked out or tkoed in three of those five fights, on the other hand randy is 3-2 in his last 5 fights losing 2 by ko or tko. but it seems that randy still has his speed and strength and the ability to take shots, chuck doesnt. Not everybody can fight until 46, randy is a freak of nature.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

like my wife says everytime these “older” guys get in there. at about 35, give or take, your reflex time gets worse and worse. Randy should have gotten out of the way from Brocks punch and Chuck just isn’t even close to being the same. Difference is, Randy has a clinch and control (wrestling) game, Chuck really doesn’t!

by kevin on Apr 22, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Dana means what he said, then I’m with Dana.

IF, he will keep Chuck involved in the UFC like he says, then who’s not to say he’s doing whats best for his very good friend? I know I would help my best friend if I were in the same situation.

I do agree that he should pipe down and let Chuck do the talking. I just think we’re seeing a passionate Dana who really cares for Chuck.

by UFC Champ on Apr 22, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chucks legs are noy what they used to be. He does not seem to be able adjust as quick, especially when he’s taking shots to the knee.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

as the sport grows more and more guys are gonna have to step down at 35-38 from the top level of fighting…
that’s just the way it goes, but when you start at an early age you will have made a good career and good money when you retire..

by RoB on Apr 22, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Randy has alot more tools to win a fight with. And when was the last time you saw Randy out cold?

by DSmith on Apr 22, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we understand nameless. but randy is a freak or freakin’ nature! And he’s more “wrestling” based so he’s less prone to gettin’ KTFO. Though he’s always gettin’ punched and I believe he’s been knocked out more than Liddell, so what the F am I arguin’ about here!??!…Bottom line, randy is just a freak!

by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Apr 22, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good job Mania to post that news!

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 22, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Chuck has been too loyal to Hackelman. He should have left him after the Rampage loss to diversify himself. I dont want to see him get crushed again. The Evans KO choked me up. Couldnt watch the replays and I love a good knock out

by nymets8 on Apr 22, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I 2nd all that.

by Bons on Apr 22, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I hate Dana and hate probably 3/4ths of what he does….he is right. Although I am not quite sure I believe the ever part in “I don’t want to make a fucking nickel off that ever.” Can’t help but wonder if he would love to let it fly if it was Tito in Chucks place….

by Heaton on Apr 22, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No doubt, Dana is a dirt pig!

Let Chuck FIGHT!

Knockouts are always fun, even if he’s the one getting KTFO!

by markie on Apr 22, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

would you wanna see your long time friend continuosly getting knocked out?

Dana is not the dirt pig whatever the hell that is you are.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But you must agree Dana needs to shut up…

by MikeD on Apr 22, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If my friedn wanted to keep fighting and he could get lisenced through the athletic commision your damn right I would let him fight!

by lokie on Apr 22, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sometimes what our friends want to do and what our friends should do are two different things. A true friend helps point out the difference between the two.

by Jeff on Apr 22, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thank you jeff!! some people are idiots, when you have done something your whole life you are not going to wanna give it up no matter what if it is something you love. Chuck Liddell loves to fight, he loves to compete but health comes first. He needs to hang up the gloves before he seriously gets hurt, if you watch him in his prime you can see how he could take anybodies best shot, not he gets clip with a ok punch and he goes down. His has speed has declined by alot and I also think his power has started to fade.

and LOkie if one of you closest friends kepting getting beat up and knocked out when he was 40 years old in a sport filled with young talented up and comers you would try to talk him into retirement especially when he has made millions and can live comfortably the rest of his life without taking unneccassary beating that quite possibly in the long will have long term health effects. Take to many blows to the head is not good for anybody look at the older boxers for example.

Dana is doing the smart thing and doing what is right for his friend whether or not chuck likes it is what is best for his well being.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with Dana. Chuck is my favorite fighter and I don’t want to see him get KO’ed ever again. Chuck’s chin is glass now and it’s doesn’t matter if he still had the power and speed he had 6 years ago, if you can’t take a punch then there is no point in fighting.

I would love to see Chuck involved with the UFC PPV’s, doing some kind of commentary. Would also love to see him in some training video blogs helping guys like Forrest get ready for a fight.

by natedogg77 on Apr 22, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He said fucking, 7 times. Life is good.

by BeerMan on Apr 22, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

reading that made me think i was listening to a limp bizkit song……

by cstyle001 on Apr 22, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

why?

by SluggerCitySoldier on Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably cuz of all the F-words.

by not a silva nuthugger on Apr 22, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotta respect Dana for his comments. CHuck is my favorite fighter and even in a business where you are supposed to be a bad a$$ this friendship is nice to see. I say let Chuck help put fights together.

by BeerMan on Apr 22, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Friendship really??i don’t know,but i found that real weird that Chuck still have one fight left on is contract and Dana speak for him saying that’s it’s over.Maybe that’s hiding something else.Eh!

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 22, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope he does retire.

by blackBEERd on Apr 22, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I dont totally disagree with Dana. And lets not forget MMA has not been around long enough that we know any long term effects the fighters will have so if anything Dana, the UFC, Chuck even, should err on the side of caution.

Bring on the hate.

by WB on Apr 22, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No hate at all. I think for his health and his safety Chuck should hang ’em up. Regardless of how long MMA has been around any doctor worth his/her degree will tell you that getting knock out one time, let alone multiple times, is not good for your long term health.

by Jeff on Apr 22, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+ a comeback fight in a year or so would get HUGE PPV buys…

That was no jab Chuck got hit with, Shogun was lunging forward.
I’d like to see Chuck fight once more but he has to be hungry and want it.
That video of him running around singing country tunes before the fight was just sad. He didn’t even act like he was sober.

by KS on Apr 22, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

how was he acting not sober? How else is he suppose to warm up in a hotel lobby?

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol, it was strange Matt, but I do agree with you!

by kevin on Apr 22, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

come on guys, I think he was doing that on purpose for the stupid paprazzi…there cameras probably said TMZ on them so he gave them something to shoot. Maybe we are so used to Chuck being ice cold we don’t realize when he is goofing around like for instance a Rampage would…..

by Chadx23 on Apr 22, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can see Dana bringing him back sometime in the future, smiliar to the way they brought Gracie back to fight Hughes. That would be cool, but I don’t want to keep paying $54 twice a year to see Chuck KO’d, and I have huge respect for Liddel.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dana is being a bully. Let Chuck decide when he wants to retire! If you don’t want him to fight, then cut him from the UFC, but don’t force the man to retire. If Chuck decides to retire, it should be on his own terms and not because someone told him he has to.

If Chuck still has the fire to fight, he can still do well against a lot of fighters. He is just not a top 10 guy anymore which is fine.

by ProKev on Apr 22, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dana White is so much like Vince Mcmahon.

by Del Boy on Apr 22, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now if Dana said this more intelligently would people be as pissed? His point is he does not want to see HIS FRIEND take any more punishment in the ring. Does anyone think the Pride guys (besides steroids) are usually hit or miss because they fought so many times at so many different weight classes, causing so many injuries to their body. Look at Nogueria he had a staph infection, etc.. and still fought Mir in what was his worst fight.

I think Dana just goes on tirades but his point is genuine, his loyal friend made a sh*t load of money, will have a job making a lot of money still, and he can have his health.

With Hackleman, Chuck should have definitely left him or brought in more guys after the Rampage fight but he did not evolve and that showed in his last 4 fights (3 losses).

by Jared on Apr 22, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you guys dont get it.. not at all its simple dana doesnt want him to end up like muhammad ali…. n chuck said it himself nothin has been workin for him lately all that can happen is him gettin hurt fightin younger stronger n faster guys.. n the reason why couture is a different story is cus the guy hasnt been takin the beatins lidell has.. u guys are selfish inconsiderent fans a few more knock outs like \whats hes been sufferin could be life treathning for real chuck lidell fans like myself i would love to see him hang it up nbow before its too late.. i know its a combat sport but i dont want these mother fuckers to get hurt n could possibly ruin the rest of there lives after there done..

by ftb21 on Apr 22, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

if he only has one fight, give him forrest, or bonnar guys who are good fighters but won’t knock him out brutaly and are still top ten guys (ok maybe bonnar isnt) plus it would be ultimate fighter 1 coach vs finalist, their last chance to do this . Or he could set an example and retier, none of the other hall of famers Except severn have stoped fighting when they should have, he could once again be an example for the future fighters, i don’t mind eighter way as long as they don’t set him up agenst some young stud like Banha or jon jones, or dare i even say A. silva

by Blazy J on Apr 22, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure, so don’t take it as fact, but I thought I heard somewhere that Severn was still fighting…

by fightfan51 on Apr 22, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, Dan’s last fight was in January.

by Jeff on Apr 22, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

when i first saw the video i was like " oh dana cares for chuck how cute". but now after reading it, yes he seems to care about chuck’s health but he explicitly cares about chuck not tarnishing the face of the ufc.

by COR on Apr 22, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha and you found it! This just seemed so out of character for Dana. Couldn’t believe there was something he did that didn’t have some sneaky perk for him or his baby. You hit it perfect bro. Although I still believe Chuck should retire.

by Heaton on Apr 22, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know he fought this time last year in Ontario on a Native Reserve.

by lazydude890 on Apr 22, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

how would chuck losing tarnish the ufc? it would not tarnish the ufc what so ever all it would prove is that there is only one Randy Couture and that other fighters such as chuck liddell, ken shamrock etc. need to learn when to hang up the gloves and protect their well being. MMA is not a sport for 40+ year old men, yes there are a few who continue to thrive in their old age but not many, even look at the nfl how many players are 40+ not many, physical sports take a toll on your body and you can not compete in them for your whole life especially boxing and mma in which your repeatedly get hit in the head, your hit in the head many times in training and many more in the actual fights, MMA fighters are some of the best athletes in the world and train harder than anybody else they put their bodies through hell to prepare for a fight and your body can only take so many years of hell before it tells you to shut it down and relax.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And these are the Days of Our Lives….

by DirtbagHtr on Apr 22, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If Dana is a true friend and worried about Chuck he should talk to him in person. Not make the decision for him especially publicly. I’m not sure if Dana is worried about Chuck or the UFC name. As Chuck has been the poster boy for years. He is going all about this wrong and needs to shut his mouth.

by Bluepit on Apr 22, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can’t imagine that they have not had this conversaion in private as well.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he has talked to him in person, Dana metioned that he and chuck sat down and talked after the Rashad fight and Dana wanted him to retire then but chuck said give me one more chance and i will do everything right so that is what dana did. Also Chuck said before he makes his final decision he needs to talk to his trainers and friends and Dana and Chuck are really close friends trust me they will talk and probably already have talked.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, if Chuck still really wants to fight and he still has 1 fight left in his contract, then let him be. It’s not about the money. It’s about us fans. Chuck only wants to give us what we fight fans want. So I hope Dana Black would still come up with 1 more superfight with The Iceman. Otherwise, time to give it up iceboy…

by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Apr 22, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What a gay pic…the love in those two mens eyes LMAO.

by nathan on Apr 22, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

dana has always been this way so why are you guys suprised??

he clearly has chucks best ineterests at heart, cos it certainly doesnt hurt the ufc if chuck continues fight. I am a huge chuck liddell fan and hurt me to see him fight on saturday, he was way slower than usual and the fact is he is not taking punches as well as he used to and it kills me to say this but its time make the smart decision chuck. The legacy you have left is there for us all, its a pity its ended the way it has but all good things come to an end!!!!

ps. chuck in his hay day wipes the floor with rashad, shogun, griffin and i still think on his day rampage!!!

a true legend of the sport, I would say however that Dana should have let chuck make the decision.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do ICEMAN!!!!!!

by mo on Apr 22, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i agree Chuck in his day KO’s Rashad, Shogun, and Forrest, but not Rampage…he fought Rampage when he was still young, like 33 or 34 and thats when Chuck was a total bada$$ KOing everybody with punches and Rampage gave him his worst beating to date in my opinion. When Chuck talks about getting dominated in a fight, well Rampage dominated Chuck in both their fights, especially the first. He took Liddells bombs and kept coming and credit to Chuck for taking about 20 Rampage bombs and surviving and never going out cold.(1st fight). Chuck’s my favorite fighter and I hate to see him retire, but I truly think it is time for him to quit fighting. He will always be a bada$$. If anything he can take a year and a half off or something and heal his body and brain up, but I still don’t think that will help a whole lot if at all.

by Chadx23 on Apr 22, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dana is just stating the obvious, I think Chuck will realize it’s that time anyway. I’ve always been a fan of his, but seeing him fight again is the last thing I want to see.

As far as the approach Dana is taking….I think a true friend would have been discussing this privately with Chuck, and a couple fights ago at that.

by Scott on Apr 22, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t see any other sure win fight for him to go out on top than fighting Mark Coleman. That way Chuck goes out with a win and then both their tired asses can retire.

by Fugitive on Apr 22, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I doubt Liddell is the most famous guy on earth.. lol

by lolop4345 on Apr 22, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

me too lol..he is though the most famous guy in mma.

by matt on Apr 22, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, that would be Junie Browning.

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He doesn’t really sound like he trusts Liddell. “It will be a f**king war if he tries not to retire, believe me” seems like it shouldn’t be said to the press about your friend before a peep is made by Liddell. In this interview Dana sounds like he’s just trying to convince himself that he loves Chuck, and paranoid of an ugly “1 fight left” situation.

by Irish on Apr 22, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Most famous guy on earth???!!!!!

Bro DO you know me DO YOU KNOW WHO THE FUCK I AM BROOO!!!!!!

I swear to god bro when i dont meen who i am on the street i meen WHO I AM ON THE FUCKIN UFC BRO!!!!!

by Karo Parisyan on Apr 22, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow,speechless!……No,STFU BRO!

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 22, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Something tells me Dana doesn’t want Chuck to fight anymore.

by ShitleTot.com on Apr 22, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is dana white BS agian….he’s just hyping a future one last fight with chuck and somone….chuck has one more fight on his contract…him vs wandi i guess?!?!?!?

whatever, dana always babied chuck always chuck the striker versus gumby or some ground wizard …striker vs grappler and chuck usually won cuz back just 2 years ago mma peeps had one major area not like new mma’ers who are more balenced

I think dana should retire with chuck ..chuck and dana buck suuuck n %uck!

by GORANDY on Apr 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Whaaaa? I did’nt quite get that last part?

by Jrandolph on Apr 22, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dana is so classy!

by Space on Apr 22, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if he feels cool cussing so much?

I think Chuck should fight one more fight, possibly a second go around with Wand because their first fight was entertaining and both are at a point where it should still be an even fight.

by Tommy B on Apr 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can respect Dana for not wanting his friend’s head to become mush. It’s interesting that Chuck still has one more fight left on his contract. He says he doesn’t want fighters fighting past their prime….why the hell is M. Coleman fighting at UFC 100????

by grannygrunt on Apr 22, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Because they are not his friend and they still equal money….. Hello Ken Shamrock. The problem is why is he making it so open to the public? I’m hoping he is up to what I think he is and putting Chuck in a spot to fight Fedor? Chuck has stated his desire to fight Fedor and Fedor is famous for fighting ex UFC champions to gain fame? I would give Chuck the fight against Fedor anyday LOL.

by Beaver on Apr 22, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Hype Train is responsible for deluding Chuck, to a degree, by rating his KO efficacy so high, virtually making his name synonymous with a KO. I think he fell victim to it. I mean listen to Mike Goldberg praise him like he’s a Jesus KO Christ or something, and every one of his pre-fight interviews follows the “I’m just gonna knock him out” theme. I think he puts far too much gravity on going for a big KO finish that he doesn’t even bother to block. He has too much faith in his hands. A better, more technical fighter wouldn’t have gotten caught so easily by Rampage (even Rampage wouldn’t have got caught like that) and the same applies with the Shogun fight. His striking game is as one-dimensional as Tito’s takedown game.

I love Chuck, I hate when he loses. But I don’t think he should quit if he doesn’t want to. He just needs to seriously change his game plan and should work on his blocking ability first.

by Johnny Farnham on Apr 22, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I went back and watched some old Chuck fights to see him win so I could feel better and his style was basically to brawl and stuff takedowns, force the other guy to stand, and then take the other guys bombs and throw his own bombs, which used to KO guys. He hasn’t even knocked anyone down with punches in his last FIVE fights much less get a TKO or KO win. I think Chuck still hits really hard, but not as hard as he used to, that and his chin is undeniably unable to take as good of a punch that it used too. The guy used to take KO punches on the jaw and keep coming at you.

by Chadx23 on Apr 22, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dana is an outright megalomaniac.

by clayton on Apr 22, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FINAL ICEMAN FIGHT! CHUCK VS. TITO ORTIZ! YEAH! TITO ORTIZ MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE NOW!!

by JP on Apr 22, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dana is a control freak..let Chuck make his own decison.. Dana just wants to control Chuck..IF UFC dosent want CHuck to fight for health reasons(justified)then dont promote him…but to block opportunities is too much…made tons of money is a LIE!! common..Chuck gets 250t to 500T or maybe sometime 750T …he’s 40 he cant live on that up to 80years…Pacquiao is getting 12 million for one fight…

by tearer on Apr 23, 2009 2:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are you new to the mma scene tearer??? Chuck makes millions a fight, his fight salary is 500k plus 500k if he wins. On top of that are ppv, sponsors bonuses and so on. It has been stated more than once that chuck makes millions per fight. He is probably the richest mma fighter on the planet, my guess would be that he is easily worth $15 million, so I hardly think hes gony struggle financially!!!!

by mo on Apr 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah but that 12 million of pacquiao is just a fixed purse(ONE FIGHT ONLY).it dosent include the ppv share and sponsorship money as well….also when discussing numbers look at the fine print…and not base it on “your GUESS”….
15 million worth as the top mma fighter is peaunuts in the world of sports…compare it to lebron and kobe..football and baseball and tennis or F-1…mma has got to be in the bottom as far as money at—-mayweather got 40 million in total money for 1 freaking fight!!!.also ive been watching mma since ROyce gracie days…and ill tell you that Dana is a great exaggerator and dosent back it up…after 10 years of taking over the UFC its still very far from the mainstream sport that he preaches…

by tearer on Apr 24, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also the whole Dana sounds like a rich gay benefactor and Chuck is his boy toy lol…..and Dana “TELLS” him what to do hahaha

by tearer on Apr 23, 2009 2:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dana white shut the %% up. Leave the guy alone, he can make descisions for himself. All this crap Dana is saying, is just making liddel look like a retard. Liddel can still fight, hell there is affliction and people would watch him fight if he came over there.

by kyle on Apr 23, 2009 3:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t read through all of the comments, so I apologize if someone said this already.

First, I think Dana does care about his friend, but it’s so much more than that. He wants Chuck to retire and not have to go through a fight with him going elsewhere. That would be ugly. It’s clear that Chuck is done (with your tactic being to take them on the chin and keep going, it’s no wonder he’s done), any fight with Chuck now will end the same way. One problem among many is that it adds to the sport’s bad image. Here is the point I haven’t seen stressed yet:

Dana can’t have his most famous star being bullied around. Dana wants to sell mucho DVD’
s of it’s main star. If Chuck keeps getting knocked out, it ruins his once great rep. Dana is protecting Chuck’s legacy.

I’m a Green Bay Packers fan. I now have a radar for a club protecting its big star…from himself!

by DAMN! on Apr 23, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t read through all of the comments, so I apologize if someone said this already.

First, I think Dana does care about his friend, but it’s so much more than that. He wants Chuck to retire and not have to go through a fight with him going elsewhere. That would be ugly. It’s clear that Chuck is done (with your tactic being to take them on the chin and keep going, it’s no wonder he’s done), any fight with Chuck now will end the same way. One problem among many is that it adds to the sport’s bad image. Here is the point I haven’t seen stressed yet:

Dana can’t have his most famous star being bullied around. Dana wants to sell mucho DVD’
s of it’s main star. If Chuck keeps getting knocked out, it ruins his once great rep. Dana is protecting Chuck’s legacy.

I’m a Green Bay Packers fan. I now have a radar for a club protecting its big star…from himself!

by DAMN! on Apr 23, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Chuck had 4 title defenses at 205 and they were all by KO. I doubt we see someone do that again any time soon. Also that war him and Wanderlei had that shit was the best fight I have ever seen. He also holds the UFC record for all time wins.

Enuff Said

by Deuces on Apr 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs