Agreed DDT. No comparison with Anderson’s piss poor performance.

I’m still not convinced that Bisping would have a great fight with Anderson either as they are both counter punchers.

Considering the backlash if it happened again and the fact that Bisping doesn’t hit really hard would probably make Anderson engage a little more if they did square off though so I may be pleasantly surpised.

he won ,I will give him that,but I would not say he whooped his arse as you claim,and he was not bringing it like he claims he does everytime.As a fighter he knows styles make matches,and yes it was boring,but not all fights are great.To make a point,when Tyson was in his prime he had a couple of boring fights where he did not finish,ala Bonecrusher Smith.The point is ,some fights are going to be exciting, some are not.You can not finish everybody.Do I believe Anderson could have did more to finish,Yes.Did he have too,No.He won the fight,he is still the champ,and he would absolutely destroy Bisping.What is Bisping going to do to Anderson ,try to have a kick boxing match,good luck with that one,buddy.

and silva kicked leites ass he just didn’t finish him, if he is talking about being exciting his fight with leben wasn’t.

ps. bisping might change his mind once he gets in there with silva.

oh he will definatly change his mind,after he gets punched in the face.

Well Thales Leites definitely has nothing to be proud about. He should be kicked out in my opinion. Anderson wasnt great but he wasnt bad considering he was winning the fight. Nothing really irritates me more than someone losing the fight, knowing it, doing nothing about it, and being content on losing the rest of the fight. Im not the greatest Bisping fan but I know he is a tough guy and he woulda went balls deep if he had to so I got to respect him for that.

I agree with c-war but also feel as though the match-making was part of the problem too…what did they expect to happen…Leites knew as well as we did that he’d get knocked out if he chose to exchange

Anderson…

I am not impressed with your performance.

Well now that Bisping has said these words, then he better watch out for the Spider will come out to entrap him. Who is he to judge these fighters?! Hang their heads in shame? That’s a bit strong isn’t it?[with the Liverpudlian accent]I mean, who is he to judge these fighters, he ain’t top notch yet[just facin’ top notch competition in Hendo]! He’s also a grape-unbuster like Forrest for all I know!

BEST OF THE ABOVE COMMENTS GOES TO………C-WAR

I agree with Bisping.

Firstly, the people who say Bisping ran from Leben are being ridiculous. He outclassed Leben and proved that he’s on a higher level. He used his technical game to pick Leben apart. Just look at Leben’s face afterward. Bisping knew Leben’s game and executed his game plan. He read him well. Why risk losing by recklessly slugging and playing Leben’s game? Leben is just a slugger and an idiot. I kind of like the guy, but he’s still an idiot.

On Silva and Leites, I think as bad as Leites was, Silva deserves some criticism too. There were plenty of times when he could have thrown a few more combos.

As Bisping said, it was frustrating to watch. Silva is being far too cautious now I think. It’s wrong to say he’s afraid (like people said he was against Cote), but he was more than just elusive, he was doubtful, tentative.

He’s also a counter-striker, and if two fighters are playing a counter-striking game it makes the fight a stalemate unless someone steps up. And if no one steps up, someone needs to try something — anything.

Whenever I watch a Silva fight now I start to fear someone’s gonna pull out a surprise KO and put him on the canvas. I fear it. Maybe he’s started to fear it too.

I’ll always like Silva but he’s lost a little respect in my eyes because of the last two debacles.

johnny farm, you contrdict yourself saying its ok that bispingdidn’t risk losing by playing lbens game and then criticize anderson for not playing into leites game. sure he could have thrown more combos, but bisping could have stood and banged with leben more. you can’t commend one fighter for something then discredit the next for the same thing.

Hardly a contradiction. Watch the Bisping fight. Bisping always is on some form of attack whether it’s counter-striking or whatever.

Comparing Bisping’s disinclination to slug-it-out to Silva’s disinclination to throw more combos is like comparing apples and oranges. Bisping’s fight was eventful and had a steady pace, Silva’s was 25 minutes of disappointment and disengagement.

Johnny you are one confused dude!
Silva defends his belt against someone who had no right being in there. Leitis looked scared constantlty turtling. His face is mashed and he probable can’t walk right now. He is in much worse condition than Leben.
Bisbing said who one the first 2 rounds?
Ha ha Bisbing is an idiot and I cant wait for Hendo to shut him up!

What does Leites having no right being in there have to do with anything regarding Silva’s performance? As Silva says, he’ll fight and defend his belt against whoever the UFC deems suitable to contend for it.

Of course Leites looked scared or cautious, that’s a given. There is no argument whether he had a good performance or not because we know he didn’t.

Furthermore, the fact that you so clearly argue Leites turtling and being scared proves Silva should have done more because he could have opened up and destroyed him. Despite Leites being scared or timid Silva still failed to have a good performance of his own.

“Bisbing said who one the first 2 rounds?”

What’s your point? That Leites one the first two? That proves even more that Silva hardly did much.

Clearly your bias is making you confused.

johnny-

Your opinions are a failure. You did contradict yourself. Sorry.

wow, what a way to prove it by simply stating it without backing it up. you’re pathetic.

Relying on name calling is a last resort.

Failure.

I still think Bisping gets crushed by Hendo, but if he somehow outpoints Hendo (the only way Bisping has a shot), then Anderson will rape him like the small guy in a prison shower, and then throw him to the side when he gets bored.

I am sick of that argument.. Bisping’s fight was against a roided up, in shape, more experienced Leben. A. Silva’s fight was against an alchoholic, not as experienced, not nearly in as good of shape Leben. If Leben had fought A. Silva and then Bisping back to back, I have no doubts he would have been finished in the Bisping fight. And this mma math crap is getting old, “Well Silva beat Leben faster, so that means he beats Bisping too!” WRONG

You are right, that has nothing to do with Silva beating Bisping. The reason he will beat Bisping is because Anderson is a much better fighter.

I congratulate you and your son on the respectful and proper way to defend yourself.
I have told my two boys the vary same. They’ve never had to use it, but I don’t want them afraid to when it’s necessary. Nice job.

Good for your son. People don’t realize the life-long damage that can come when a kid allows him/herself to be bullied. I taught my sister (who I raised for the most part) to stick up for herself and I still remember when we were kids…..There was this boy who was biting and bullying the other kids. He was two years older than my sister. She ran up the stairs and he followed. She was about three stairs above him so her feet were the same height as his face. I was in pursuit to stop him when she delivered three kicks to his face and he fell down the stiars. It was a very proud moment for me.

haha thats awesome. gotta make you feel all warm and cozy inside to know your son isnt gunna be a pussy.

Congrats! Your son may have a future, pickin’ on bullies! Hehe!!…Anyway, are you gonna support his training if he wants to fight just in case? Do you want your son to get cauliflower ears? Hehe!

Good for your son taking care of himself. I hate to see kids fight, but sometimes a bully needs to be dealt with on the only level they understand.

There were only like 28 people that tried out for TUF 3. that was the Season they CHOSE for Bisping to win it. They brought in WW to fight as LH like Pointon(that Bisping ALREADY beat TWICE) and Hanyes that is now WW and probably moving to 55.

Plain and simple, they brought in the EASIEST field to have Bisping win it.

He is SO OVERRATED it is not even funny. He has fought, what 9 times?? And still havent faced a serious contender?? Rashad was still learning at the time they fought(still mostly lay n pray). They fed him one dimensional opponents like Sinosec, Schaffear, McCarthy. He fought guys like Haynes and Pointon(which are WW that still cant win in small shows). You got Day and Leben…With LEBEN the only one remaining inthe UFC.

And his first fight with someone decent, AFTER 2 plus years, they give him a 38 year old guy. Sure he is a top MW, but we seen what happened to EVERY fighter sooner ar later when they get to this age….AND THE UFC KNOWS IT

Man,poor Haynes!See,pee is bad for your health

Wow…just wow..

FightFan you should just ignore every bisping topic..your going to give yourself a hernia..

Ive never read such hate filled venomous fantasy in my life.

Stop thinking about bisping and move on with your life jeez

I imagine you allready have pages of conspiricy and excuses ready IF Bisping beats Dan (which he might just do)…you should start your own website with it.

In the mean time if you could tell us who killed JFK and where the fake moon landing sets were built id apreciate it….LMAO

To imply that matching up Bisping with Hendo is not a top-tier match up for him because Hendo is 38 is ridiculous.

I think we should all agree that this is the quality kind of match-up Bisping should have gotten a long time ago.

Keep up the good work fightfan, I agree with you on every point!

Ok then attakdog & FightFan

If the UFC is so corrupt as to fix fights with judges (highly illegal in the uk 5-8 years if guilty)

Thats the best point against it yet acually..forget that the UK doesn’t have a governing body, fixing an event that can be gambled on WILL see those responsible go to jail….is the UK market worth 5years inside…I doubt dana thinks so.

As for hendo being finished …didn’t he just beat franklin?

Yeh I totaly see why you agree with every one of his points attakdog

I dont know maybe your friends…its the only explanation for congratulating someone for lunacy

Also if its so corrupt why watch and support it????

crazy

Bisping’s comment on the Silva/Leites “fight” is accurate, however I’m not sure Bisping is the most credible source to critique a fight for not being entertaining. Bisping is a very solid fighter for sure, but his own style is heavily geared toward avoiding punishment and eeking out decisions by “out-pointing” his opponents with his technical striking. It’s been effective, but also will not sell a lot of pay-per-views.

One last point on Leites, and since Bisping opened the door to such comparisons. Leites performance reminded me of a certain type of gal all of us have likely encountered at some point. The kind where where you simply make eye contact or tap them on the shoulder, and they fall on their back with their wide open and up in the air. Maybe one of the regulars on this site can come up with a creative nickname poor Thales can be saddled with for awhile?

lol how about CL’s mom… you totally set yourself up for that one. I’m only playing tho.

UFCaddict: im with you man, I think Bisping is very under rated. He doesnt get enough respect if you ask me, and most of it is due to the Hammil fight. Stupid ass fans just wont get over that fight, which is dumb considering if you break down the fight footage, watch it in slow motion, you would clearly see that Bisping did indeed out point Hammil in that fight.

Sorry……forgot the word legs in my post.

Good one Shogun….

John, I still disagree with you on who won that fight but I agree with you that the Hamill fight unduly gets him disrespected. One way or the other Bisping had a close fight with a tough guy who seems more and more talented by the fight. There is not much shame in that.

With a win over Hendo I would have to put Bisping as the #2 or #3 MW in the UFC (depending on how the fight went). With a loss he’s around 7 or 8.

i agree with that…at this point I dont’t think Mike is over OR under rated…he definately deserves to be in there with Hendo and is swimming with the sharks now

OMG!john,it seems that a rumor about Fedor/Aoki for april 29th…In a report released today by kamipro.com, top heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko will take on lightweight Shinya Aoki in a grappling match to be held on April 29th in the 3rd installment of DEEP M-1 Challenge. While there has yet to be an official announcement and the idea of this match-up could seem a tad unbelievable, this isn’t the first time these two names have been thrown around in a potential fight. There’s no secret that Japanese promotions love to put on fights featuring their biggest stars, at times ignoring size and reason, and Fedor and Aoki are two of the biggest fan-favorites.

couldn’t have said it better myself.

Nice post Phil…I’d add to it but you said it all.

Thanks Guys!!!! ; )

War Phil! To add, what pisses me off is the dumb ass criticism of Anderson taunting thales, dropping his hands and dancing. Rashad does that crap to showboat…but there is a method to Anderson’s madness: THales refused to strike, Anderson is a counter striker. Anderson wasnt trying to show him up, he just wanted to bait THales into attacking so that he can pick him apart with counter strikes. I was actually entertained by the fight….I wasnt bored, and I am not as mad as most of you about that fight.

Silva could have done more…A LOT MORE! To say that he needed to protect his neck vs somebody like Leites is ridiculous.

does Bisping really have room to talk ,because his last fight,he was trying to play defensive like Machida.He knows Anderson would kill him

the problem is that some people watch the UFC for entertainment only…usually the casual fans, but UFC has changed since its invention – its not just some human cock fight type entertainment where ppl just wana c 2 men punch shite out of each other…its a fully fledged SPORT with real athletes who are there to win while taking s least damage as possible and i find it entertaining because i love the sport….

so this match was just like any other football match where the better team completely dominated the other, without having to use their full potential, and there is never as much said about those matches…

get it into ur heads haters, its now a top level SPORT, so if u cant accept some matches that dont end in devastating fashion, then go watch a street fight!

You make the mistake of thinking the UFC is mainstream, and doesn’t need any more support. WRONG! The UFC has a LONG way to go and fights like that give people the wrong idea about MMA. Trust me when I say that there were a lot of people on the fence about MMA, but tuned in because they knew Chuck Liddell, and that are now avoiding it at all costs.

I don’t blame them. If I had a party, invited a bunch of people over, and we all had to sit through that I would be pretty embarrassed to be an MMA fan myself.

You’re making the mistake of thinking this sport is mainstream. A lot of potential new fans, fans that this sport needs, tuned in because of Chuck and are now alienated because of the horrible performance that both fighters put on.

It does not matter if it is mainstream or not,it is a sport,and everytime you are not going to get a war.There is NFL games where nobody can do anything right,NBA games when it seems people can not hit the broad side of a barn.Sh#t happens ,get over it.All matches are not going to fullfill your own fantasies.Also any true sport fan should know this and should not have been turned off by one fight

I’m not saying everybody should hate MMA. But as hardcore fans, it’s our job to call the BS fights when we see them so that the casual fans don’t think this is what MMA is about. Hardcore fans have got to stop patting themselves on the back long enough to live in reality, and the reality is that was a horrible fight and both fighters put on horrible performances.

Saying that Anderson was justfied because he was risking his health is completely ridiculous. People pay to be entertained, and that was about as far from entertainment as it gets.

Does this mean Silva shouldn’t play defense and stick his chin out or something equally silly, of course not, but what he did instead was equally silly.

exactly.. and to reply to razzel – you are right about chuck getting the casual fans on board, but this was when MMA was only becoming popular- these are the type of people who will jump off the bandwagon if there isnt a sub, tko, etc every time they watch a match.

exactly.. and to reply to razzel – you are right about chuck getting the casual fans on board, but this was when MMA was only becoming popular- these are the type of people who will jump off the bandwagon if there isnt a sub, tko, etc every time they watch a match.For MMA to be taken seriously as a mainstream sport, the fighters and fans need to act like it is a maintream sport!

It’s hard for them to do that when we are trying to tell them that what Silva and Leites did was justified. When we say that fighters shouldn’t be trying to finish because it’s too risky, that sends the wrong message.

a fair point razzle, it wasnt an aesthetialy pleasing fight aat all, but it wasnt andersons fault at all. he was ready to fight – thales was afraid to his takedowns didnt wrk so he bitched aout pretending to be hurt so silva would go to ground (reminisent of Arlovski vs Werdum).If a fighter is totaly dominating a fight why would they risk it…e.g. if a soccer team was winning 1-0 in a game they needed to win the smart thing to do would be to play defensively or continue as normal…instead of throwing all their players up 4wrd leaving large opporunites for the oposing team to comeback!

Its a challenger’s responsiblily to make the fight exciting by trying to take down the Champ!

Silva tried to finish but Leites just ran away, therefore it wasnt Silvas fault at all!

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Razzel – Circumstances of this title fight.. are as followed.. #1..bad Match up..#2 Silva is the Champion and has not changed his style since his debut against Leben.. what has changed is how his challenger’s fight him.

As I look at this fight aside from me being a big Anderson Silva fan.. I blame only Leites.. and I’m a fan of his too.. but I can not defend his performance.

Silva did as much as he could of done without getting trapped into Thales’s world.. the “ground” regardless if Silva is a BJJ Black belt.. Thales is on another level with his Jits.. but once I saw Thales start flopping on his back.. I knew the fight was over.. and it was going to go to a decision.

The job of a fighter is to put hte fight where you want it to be..in orde to win.. if Thales wanted to go to the ground he should of taken Silva to the ground.. takedowns/jump guard something.. not flopping on his back !!! Expecting Silva to follow him. Thales did not want that belt.. did not want that fight.. IMO.

  The sport of MMA is like no other.. I want it to grow as much as the biggest maniac on this site.. but I also want it to gorw in the right way and for the right reasons.. not everyone is going to be happy all the the time.. you can’t make everyone happy.. I believe the best fan is an educated fan.. and an educated fan would understand.. what happen.. can be upset.. but will not turn his/ her back to the sport.. if he/she does so.. they were not suppose to be a fan of the sport anyway.

I understand you guys placing a lot of blame on Leites. He deserves it! But as much as you don’t want to hear it, so does Anderson. He gave up in that fight, and didn’t show any of the aggression that earned him the status as the best P4P fighter in the world.

The fight spent plenty of time on the feet, but Silva was content with zero risk actions like knee kicks and foot punches, and for that he is very much to blame. He says he was only being safe because he didn’t want to risk all he has accomplished, and all I can say is sometimes you meet your fear on the road to avoid it.

As Silvas style becomes more conservative, he runs an increasing risk of being remembered for these fights and not the devastating run he had to begin his career. It may sound like an exaggeration, but what happens if his next fight is 5 more rounds of knee kicks and foot punches? You may say that’s unlikely, but that’s what everybody said after the Cote fight.

Why take risks, if your completely dominating. Risks are to be taken when your backs aganst the ropes- like thales he should have tried anything – maybe a flying scissor heel hook – Silvas kryptonite! haha

if anderson wants to fight like this let him…its his choice and no matter what i will always watch his fights…i feel people dont appreciate the elite level he is on.

Fair enough he is not as exciting than b4 Cote fight but thats because his opponents dont want to engage with him…hes built up the invincibilty merage.

He is similar to Floyd Mayweather Jr in that hes so good its like hes not even trying. But yet if someone feels brave enough to test him, he shatters them to pieces! Maybe he is not appreciated now, but in years to come people will look back and realise how special he is/was!

Henderson or Belfort will have a good go at Anderson as i think barring GSP, these are the only guys who can trouble Anderson at MW.

Would love to see anderson beat, and i love the guy, just so i could see how he would come back from it.

“Its a challenger’s responsiblily to make the fight exciting by trying to take down the Champ!”

I call MAJOR BS there! It is both fighters’ responisbility to make the fight exciting! I can’t believe some of you people! Get off Anderson’s nuts long enough to see that it was an abysmal performance by both guys! When guys like Dana White and Joe Rogan, who I think are the biggest fans and most passionate about this sport, say that the fight was a dud and boring, then you know thats what it is. I blame Thales for not fighting. I blame Anderson for not fighting. Thales gave up by the 3rd round. His jits, his skills, meant NOTHING then. Anderson could have done whatever he wanted, but he just didnt. I dont know what, Phil don’t know why, John don’t know why, Mania don’t know why, NO ONE knows why he didn’t turn it up in the 4th asnd 5th round. He wanted to make it there, and he did, but he could have finished him. TERRIBLE fight.

As the best fighter in the world, you need to be more than a counter striker.

Why take risks? C’mon! There’s being cautions or elusive, and then theres Silva’s last performance. This isn’t of case of being smart and avoiding damage, like Machida (who knocked Alves the f*ck out so he’s clearly agressive enought!), Silva didn’t really take or give damage, what does that tell you!? Dana white even made a public apology, what does that tell you!?

Look, I’m not saying Silva sucks, or that Leites isn’t to blame for any of this, but you have to at least admit that it was a pathetic fight!

ooops
NOT Alves
Correction: Thiago Silva

Yeah, defending Andersons performance, that’s where I have to completely disagree. Why take risks? C’mon man, I know you love MMA, but defending Andersons performance is a slap in the face to all the fighters who value entertaining the fans and go out there to make things exciting. Rich Franklin always said that he would rather lose the fight of the night than win a boring decision. That’s the kind of thinking I respect, and that’s what has gained MMA popularity.

Any fighter that goes in only looking to capitalize on their opponents risks and take none of their own deserve to be booed out of the building. What’s makes Silvas performance so bad is that he didn’t do either. He took no risks and didn’t capitalize on anything Leites did wrong. He just stuffed Leites offense and offered only enough of his own to win a decision.

Saying to appreciate that is a true love of the sport is both wrong and delusional.

Same here john, I was entertained. So I don’t know what the F these guys are complaining about! even my officemate Rex disapproves of the show. He doesn’t know the beauty of MMA and a striking clinic when he sees one.

See, some people are so busy patting themselves on the back for being a hardcore fan that they don’t live in reality anymore.

But when it is your belief that the fans, the media, and the fighters just don’t “get it”, you’re either enlightened or delusional.

You can decide for yourself which is more likely.

All we are saying is it happens,not every fight is going to be what you want to see,It is not wrong or right,it is just the way it is.Every time the Patriots play a game Tom Brady does not throw for 300 yards,Jordan did not score 50 points every night,Pele did not score a goal every soccer game he played in, do you get my point.Every night is not going to be the greatest performance,yes we would all love for it to be a war in every fight,but that is just not possible.

Yeah, I realize that. The difference to me though is that we pay $45 minimum, and sometimes even 30 or 40 times that amount to watch them! This isn’t about a fight that just didn’t work out, this is about two guys who didn’t even try, and that’s inexcusable when people are spending that kind of money.

Syd and John being entertained by this joke of a fight would put you both in the category of “easily amused”.

Scott we all know there are good and bad fights but this has to be among the 5 worst mma fights of all time. For sure the worst UFC PPV main event. And lamest fight of 2009. Can you name 3 fights that were more frustrating and dissapointing to watch. HAHAHA Anderson set a couple of records with this fight including maybe … Worst fight ever!!

I agree that it was not a good fight,I walked away saying that I wasted my money,but to your point people pay $50 for college football games on pay per view ,and half the time it is LSU vs louisiana lafayette university,not really your game of the week material

All I was saying is ,we can not expect a war everytime,was I dissappointed ,yes, was it frustrating to watch, yes,but so is half the time I watch my Clemson Tigers play football.All and All ,I just do not think that we should be complaining all the way up until the next event,it is over and done with,and nothing is going to bring it back,just sweep it under the rug,it is not like every event will be like this.Do not get me wrong I completly understand being frustrated with the fight,I was myself,but I know it is MMA and there was a very good chance that styles were not going to mesh well.So we all know that if they ever put Maia vs Silva on,it will probably be the same thing so go ahead and get ready to grit your teeth

Very, very true. I admit I’m certainly being a little slow in letting go of my frustration.

My frustration keeps me warm at night.

lol

Haha, maybe I’ll keep it then. :p

yes were coming into a more of a compromise now..im not saying that it was a good fight..it was a terrible fight (i just enjoyed watching silva move around) all im saying is like scott is that its not that big a deal some fighs arent exciting, just like some american football matches arent.

but i definitely dont think u can blame silva…he tried to engage alot but thales ran away or jumped to the ground…and silva didnt need to take big risks by just running after him and swinging to get the fans a knockout… at the end of the day its a sport – he gets paid to win, he has an awful lot to lose and if he is dominating a fight like he was why would he risk getting knocked out or submitted by thales who is a big big guy and especialy when thales wasnt attackng him so silva couldnt counter attack and he likes that.

u mention Dana being disappointed with Silva, but Chuck Liddell – 1 of, if not the most exciting fighters in the UFC history even backed anderson and said it wasnt his fault- the ownus was on thales, at the press conference!

MAchida knocked out Thiago because Thiago came at him! Sokodjou also attacked which is why he got submitted, which is why MAchida had exciting fights – it is all about the styles make fights theory.

Anderson demolished chris leben, franklin, nate, lutter, hendo and irvin because they all wanted to engage with Anderson or else be able to fight him on the ground. Thales could do neither so he just had no options and covered up like he was afraid…thus silva wasnt going to wildly run after him just to please the fans….

His match against Cote, i believe Anderson was worried how confident and ‘in his face’ Cote was, and so backed off a bit, but lets face it he probably would have finished cote in that match and if not it was only because of Cote’s chin!

You will see its thales the one dimensional BJJ man’s fault when anderson gets put in with strikers or wrestlers or even BJJ’s who can take him down. Just w8 guys!

P.S. would u guys risk your legacy if you were anderson, im not saying being risky is good to watch, its definitely not compared to a knockout, but its anderson’s choice therefore the people who boo him for it, when hes clearly looking to engage and dominating the fight, are fucking assholes!

pffft! what are you talking about?
- the fight was terrible, not your typical yawner, terrible! fans are expecting more in a title fight!
- Silva tried to engage a lot? have you heard anything on ESPN, or from Dana, have you watched the fight? Silva threw a few punches and danced around, that not engaging!
- it’s not that Liddell backed Silva, it’s that Liddell is respectful and doesn’t want to badmouth anyone.
- we don’t know a lot yet about Machida’s offense, so no point on you comparing him to Silva, who apparently doesn’t have one.
- a would champion and ‘best P4P fighter’ needs to be more than a one dimensional fighter, saying he just has a different style isn’t good enough, fighters need to be able to adapt.
- your argument regarding Cote is weak, if Silva’s a counter fighter then he should have dispatched Cote with ease. You’re basically saying that Silva is good against aggressive fighter, but not too aggressive. excuses excuses.
- Leites is to blame, but so is Silva. Just accept it.
- oh yeah, you don’t need to lose to ‘risk your legacy’, just perform so ridiculously poorly like Silva did. He did not fight like a champion, and that’s what’s risking his legacy.
- and in MMA, sometimes the performance is just as important as the results, unlike many sports. weak arguments man, really weak.

I actually like Bisping.Did he go out there the same way he did the 2 previous fights,did it go to decision,did he win the fight 3 rounds to none,now remember what Anderson did to Leben

So what?? Does going to a decision mean that he had problems?

Oh in that case GSP had ‘problems’ with Fitch then.

Yeah, but its kind of hard to jab a guy that wants to lay on his back the whole fight. Compare a common opponent of their’s, Leben. Who had the more exciting fight with Leben? Anderson or Bisping? Hopefully after the Hendo fight Bisping will get a shot at the Spider or Leites. Either one would probably give Bisping a loss.

Leites shares the blame, I completely agree. But the Anderson who showed up to fight Leben is not the same guy who showed up to fight Leites. He had several chances to take the fight to Thales.

Razzel, even as a huge Spider fan i cannot disagree with you on that.

I personally think that a fight between Bisping and Leites would’ve been a better fight.
But according to you that fight would’ve looked like this???

In a sense…yeah…Bisping wouldn’t have engaged Leities on the ground, but Leities i don’t think would fear Bisping’s striking/ compared to Silva…but yeah i think Leities would’ve shot for takedowns and Bisping would’ve stayed standing…only contrast i see is Silva can finish better that Bisping

I saw that fight too… it was a boring fight.
But this fight between Anderson and Leites, what exact makes that fight better than the Rashad vs. Bisping fight?

It is not ,but he claims he brings it twice as much everytime,so he needs to just shut up

oh yeah i’d rather have paid to see the Rashad/Bisping, than Silva/Leites…I was just calling out the fact that Bisping’s passed record doesn’t justify the comments he made about fighting harder than Silva and Leities did…to me…its the same thing just mirrored…Silva looked like he wanted to engage and Leities just laid down….Leben looked like he wanted to engage and make an exciting fight and Bisping landed a jab or two and circled away, for 3 straight rounds…Smart fight on his part but you don’t fight like that and then call out a monster like Silva and say you’d fight harder

To skew from topic- but have you noticed that Bisping thinks he’s hot shit now that he beat Leben. First he said he’d smash Hendo or Rich Franklin (which we all know is bullshit) And now he’s trying to say he fights harder than A.Silva…ya kno? The Bisping/Leben fight was a heart breaker cuz i truly believe Leben’s got the heart of a champion…no matter what, the guy goes out there and lays it all on the line for the UFC and for the fans…Bisping gets a dicked decision over Hammill and tries to disputed that he won. He said all during the preveiws he was going to finsih Leben and at the end he says “no we wanted a UD.” the guy is just ass…plus if you look at the guys he’s fought the UFC has been hand feeding him opponets

no way…if I’m paying $55 a card I want to be entertained.

then you better cross your fingers that you get an entertaining match….they cant all be! esp if the challenger is afraid to fight the champ!

ok

No. Are you 9? Your English seems to be on the same level.

I mean, how would you deduce someone as being a 12-year-old by saying a certain match-up would be awesome? I’ve noticed it’s a common trend with d*ckheads like you to pull the, “You’re obviously a teenager” kind of remark. You must be one special kind of moron. I’ll have to sink to that level by suggesting with complete seriousness that there is a massive chance you are either very slow witted or that you actually are 9.

Damn. I swore. So I think my post was censored. I’ll have to try to edit it (even though I’ll probably make a double post).

I mean, how would you deduce someone as being a 12-year-old by saying a certain match-up would be awesome? I’ve noticed it’s a common trend with morons like you to pull the, “You’re obviously a teenager” kind of remark. You must be one special kind of moron. I’ll have to sink to that level by suggesting with complete seriousness that there is a massive chance you are either very slow witted or that you actually are 9.