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Vaseline Alley: Spider camp calls Silva greasing allegations 'Ridiculous'

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Quoteworthy:

"How much Vaseline can they put on someone’s eyebrows that’s going to make a difference? Where’s he going to wipe it? If he wasn’t wiping it on his shorts, where would he wipe it? It wasn’t like he was rubbing it in. He just took it off. We didn’t put it on. It was [the cutman] that put it on."

Ed Soares — manager for UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva — responds to accusations made by SI.com that Silva used the Vaseline applied to his face prior to entering the cage at UFC 97 to grease up his arms and chest to possibly prevent challenger Thales Leites from maintaining an effective guard. Silva nabbed a unanimous decision victory in a bizarre and uneventful main event that consisted of little-to-no action that had fans in attendance booing -- and fans at home screaming for a refund. Did the "Greasegate" controversy from UFC 94 heighten our awareness of Vaseline applications and prompt a possible overreaction? Or did "The Spider" make his web intentionally slippery?

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I agree, ridiculous!

by RoB on Apr 20, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See what fagget BJ Penn started now every “jits” guy who clearly Loses is gonna claim that the champ greased!!!

by NM on Apr 20, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well they are greasing so they are cheaters. GSP will be beat his next fight anyway so who cares. Silva can keep butt, but he has had serious issues on his back. I think he was scared to go to the ground.

by b on Apr 20, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say let GSP and Silva both grease up, then put them together in the cage. At least it will be an even fight.

by DrPepper on Apr 21, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously what the hell was Anderson thinking?? It clearly shows him lubing his upper body and arms from what was on his face.

by c-war on Apr 21, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The key to the rule is EXCESSIVE application of oil-based substances. The question is, what is considered excessive?

by RedDog on Apr 21, 2009 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to let you guys know….U wont find me posting on any kind of Greasing threads EVER again! I am so damn sick of this topic….If the Athletic Commisions dont want to regulate the situation better, then F it, I wont waste my time talking about it ever again! Im am just simply Sick of it!

by john on Apr 21, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cosign john.

by DSmith on Apr 21, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

leites never said shit about it it, its the damn media…

by randy murders on Apr 21, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did obviously smear the vaseline on his body, so I guess he was cheating. That being said, if there is any fight where that did not matter, this was it.

by naturalshadow on Apr 21, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NS: The fact is it COULD of. I thought the GSP situation was blown out of proportion but considering what had happened you would think Anderson would not even think about doing this.

It’s not like he was some unknown fighting on the undercard!

I honestly believe he didn’t mean to do it but he is still really stupid to go and do something like this in front of everyone especially considering the fighting style of his opponent.

by Ca$z on Apr 21, 2009 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW Hilarious photo Mania!! lmao

by Ca$z on Apr 21, 2009 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This has probably been happening for a long time, and now everyone is paying attention, because bitter BJ made it a big deal. I’m not saying that I agree w/ it.

by LJ on Apr 21, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s too bad silva is obviously a cheater. no way to argue this one. too much video. he cheated and has no one he can blame it on. of course the cutman put it on his face but he didn’t put it on silvas chest and arms. how dumb is he for doing it right in front of the cameras? silva should be ashamed of himself. cheaters have no honor. silva has no honor. and he does not deserve to hold that title. he is not a man. I am ashamed I once considered myself a fan of a cheater.

by jj on Apr 20, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, in his defense, he almost went in the cage without the grease, he also told the cutman to not put too much on his face, and after he did put it on his face he wiped it off and rubbed it into his arms and chest. Very weird Anderson has become, but I don’t think he’s a cheater, just a wild dude.

by orcus on Apr 21, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cry me a river, when leites had silva down silva hurt him

by phenomenal angel on Apr 21, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i DISagree, the evidence is there, If you call GSP a cheat, Silva is a cheat as well.

by Rashad=Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Apr 20, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just looked at andersons losses in his carreer 1 was to a guy who’s been fighting at 155 who’s like 12-8 (andersons first mma fight though), a dude who is 7-13,and ryo chonan who fights at 170 now although anderson had a broken ankle going into the fight, and the okami one

im thinking he is a possibly overrated guy.. he’s definitely beatable

by randy murders on Apr 21, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was disappointed as most in anderson’s last fight, but to call the guy overrated? seriously though, that’s a n00b move!

by orcus on Apr 21, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, not over-rated.
Well, maybe by some as far as that P4P in the world jazz (he needs to take his smirky ass up to 205 already!)

Yes he’s definitely beatable. But he’s also an outstandingly talented fighter.

by robthom on Apr 21, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you serious randy?.. anyone is beatable, but Anderson is just on another level than any MW i’ve ever seen, the technique and skill he has is amazing..

by RoB on Apr 21, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my point is, he got beat by a dude who is fighting at a weightclass 30 lbs under his.. whether or not fedor is fighting dudes lighter then him or cans is he actually wins against them lighter fighters on a consistant basis and at there weightclasses they were top 10..

now anderson is called top p4p fighter out there but lost to those guys? sure years ago but when did fedor really lose? never, read any post i have ever made about fedor and you will not ONCE see me say a good thing about the guy but p4p he is better then silva therefore silva is overrated.. call it a noob move all you want but calling him the p4p kind is overrating him

best middleweight YES best p4p not a chance sure anyone can be beat but not fedor or torres

by randy murders on Apr 21, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol calling Silva overrated? haha this coming from a Randy Couture fan? haha!

by Cogito_Ergo_Sum on Apr 21, 2009 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually my real name is randy.. not a couture fan at all really i do like him since he was on the US olympic team but i could care less about him fighting

by randy murders on Apr 21, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol im not even gonna bother reading most of the comments as it pisses me off how people saying he cheated.

For one the ammunt of Vas applied to his face wouldnt be enough to really make any diff to how slippery he would be if the excess is rubbed on his arms and chest specially after round 2 when the they start working up a sweat.

and did use even watch the fight, anderson had no intention of goin to the ground with Leites, so the fact that he applied a minuscule amount of vas really dont mean anything,

he was the better fighter physically and mentally, and i think all the ufc fan boys and leites nut huggers out there who have recently jumped on the Ufc bandwagon in last few yrs, go and watch some of the early Ufc ppv’s and you will see fighters practically glowing in the dark due to the amount of greasing… but yet none of them complained.

by CoNr on Apr 21, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plain boring if you’ll ask me…whew!

by gaara on Apr 21, 2009 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is fairly funny to me how easily people will turn on someone. I really don’t think any of this was intentional. If you watch the video closely he never “Greases” his right arm. He only “greases” his body and stomach(which couldn’t make any difference anyhow) and his left arm(this was the last thing he “Greased” so its debatable how much was even left).

Not to mention the fact that if the clip were to run a little longer, every one would see that he was whipped off before the fight began(not sure how everyone caught the “Greasing” but missed this). Anyhow, bottom line is what Anderson did, may have been “Dumb”, but it was unintentional and ineffective at best. He is still one of the greatest of all time and, he deserves our respect and support. I won’t even comment on the leites fight because you can’t fight some one who doesn’t want to be in the ring with you.

by alex on Apr 21, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats total garbage. If he was attempting to cheat he would try to be a little more discrete.

by cole on Apr 20, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he is just stooopid

by bigmcmac on Apr 20, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps youre right bigmc…scared imo

by gaara on Apr 21, 2009 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right but as the tap clearly shows is that he wasn’t putting on his shorts but on his chest and arms- Be that as it may that it didn’t make a different at all, rules are rules and it shouldn’t of been broken like that.. im not saying it makes a big difference but the UFC after GSP made it clear no Vaseline on any part of the body so why do it is my question-

Btw- Could be late news but i hear that anderson will be fighting at 205 from now on, and possibly vacent the belt and for teh rest of his 4 fight contract will be at 205.

by ricky on Apr 20, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and where did you hear this!?

by NM on Apr 20, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so the head isn’t a part of the body?..

by RoB on Apr 20, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the head would be an illegal part of the body too, only the face is legal. stop trying to be smart, you’re not, you’re just a tool. or at least try to be smarter before trying to be a smartass.

by jj on Apr 20, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JJ if anyone is a tool its you!!
“I am ashamed I once considered myself a fan of a cheater.” lol silva has no honor.. chill out dude

by mike22 on Apr 21, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the face isn’t a part of the head? face and head is basically the same so whatever, chill out moron..

by RoB on Apr 21, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are a tool, come say that in my face..

by RoB on Apr 21, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RoB you are clearly a tool, everyone on this site has talked about it and we are all in agreement, biggest tool on Mania.

by Hal on Apr 21, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha ok, that has to be because i know more than most of the ppl on this site..

by RoB on Apr 21, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

falls its not gonna be a vacant belt if the whole gsp vs silva happens gsp is gonna be fightin for the middle weight belt againts the spider. if it doesnt happen hes gonna defend it againts damian maaia or wanderlai(hopin that wandy puts atleast 2 wins in a row) but till those things happen he will be fightin in the 205.. with shogun fightin the winner of thiago silva vs forrest anderson is rumored to fight the loser of the fighter or a possible match up luiz cane or one of those up n comin 205ers

by ftb21 on Apr 20, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why would either guy be deserving to fight for that belt? maia beat who? chael sonnen and the rest of team quest? wandy beat who? he hasn’t one but 1 fight since he came back…

by randy murders on Apr 21, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he just doesn’t give a sh!t about what anybody thinks anyway.

(It must be pretty awesome to be a almost invincible ass kicker)

by robthom on Apr 21, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This seriously has to be a joke. Sure Anderson prob. didn’t wanna fight on the ground but not to the point where he would need to do something like this? Anderson has the skills to defend himself, please i really hope this doesnt turn into the gsp crap.

by pwilson on Apr 20, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was not the video that was up that proves more that anderson cheated…the ufc took it down!!!
it was on youtube
this is gettn stupid andeerson should be penalized for a boring arse fight like kalib and his money lowered Anderson is not pound for pound best until he fights top 10 guys ..many of his fights were not top 10
Fedor is p4p king now or GSP
HEY mmamania where is the original youtube video why not comment on that? and you should , mmamania and all the people should get our money back for an economy in depression i’ll wath strike force next time

by brendan aormsby on Apr 20, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So Hendo and franklin who was the champ where not top 10,Your comment is as dumb as your name.

by NM on Apr 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey brendan. have you had too much to drink?

by Nokimono on Apr 20, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your retarded and i hope you never post here again

by tuffguy01 on Apr 20, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your comment is as dumb as your name

by NM on Apr 20, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt he was trying to cheat…At least we hope that’s the case. However, he shouldn’t be wiping it all over either. It wouldn’t have made a difference or would it? I think he was thinking his skin was a little dry and thought he would be a little smoother when he opened up a can of whoop ass.

by b on Apr 20, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fkin bj penn, its all his damn fault. I jus hate him i hate him i hate him.

by Jrok on Apr 20, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, the video does clearly show him rubbing himself down with vasoline. To say otherwise is being delusional. I agree that the greasing talk is getting old. But for God’s sake, it’s got to stop already. You can’t help but look for it now. Another dude(can’t remember who)gets rubbed down by his cut guy (young black dude) as the guy is checking behind his ears before he enters the octagon.Saw another dude at 96 too. It’s gotta stop.Zero tolerance for cheating.

by Josh H. on Apr 21, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I did notice Anderson wiping his face and then rubbing it on his chest and arms but that fight suckaed a$$ and it never made a difference.

by chad on Apr 21, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s hard to tell. He’s clearly placing the Vaseline all over his chest. Whether or not he did it to “cheat”, well only Silva knows that.

by clayton on Apr 21, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope you guys know that was a taunt to GSP by Silva. im sure he got sick of all the candians talking about GSP vs Silva so he thought it was ould be funny to grease up like that. Which turned out to be “fucking stupid”. GSP is the #1 P4P fighter. and you can argue it untill your blue in the face. GSP has faought and destroyed more top ranked fighters in his career than the Spider and thats what make he the best P4P. if he moves up in weight i personnaly feel he is ducking Okami, Mia, and a rematch with NAte. all of whom pose more threat than any gate keeper in 205.

by salatious on Apr 21, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL " i personnaly feel he is ducking Okami, Mia, and a rematch with NAte. all of whom pose more threat than any gate keeper in 205." Please tell me your joking. duckin any of those guys is laughable. Why would he duck anyone. He has fought Hendo, Franklin, stoped your boy Nate. I just cant take that post seriously.

by lokie on Apr 21, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sent BJ penn camp a case of vaseline so they can jerk each other off now!

by Mr. Vince McMahon on Apr 21, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,click on my name.Your in for a good laugh!!

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 21, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, anderson definitely deserves more flack than GSP, ridiculous or not. He actually greased himself! And then went on to offer a stinker of a fight anyway.

But I wonder why kizer was running in the ring with his towel and yelling at people during the GSP fight and not this one?
Was he not there or what?

by robthom on Apr 21, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can someone post a link or a gif or anything? i missed the fights and i just wanna see for myself before i denounce one of the greatest fighters of all time.

by bump on Apr 21, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let him use that vasoline to get butt fucked sila is a faget scared to lose and scared to fight

by dblock on Apr 21, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The link is underneath the write-up where it says “Click here to see what all the hubbub is about.”

by Ca$z on Apr 21, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not payin for another UFC until 100 that looks pretty awesome

by chad on Apr 21, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i DO NOT like Silva and never have.

i respect and admire the hell out of him tho for his amazing MMA skills. He is clearly the best MW the UFC has to offer.

But i personally don’t think he is the P4P #1 in the world.

he resume is good but not worth of #1 spot.

He just hasn’t faced enough high caliber opponents, imo
OUTSIDE of Hendo, Franklin, Newton (not to mention is a WW)

i havent seen the FULL Lee Murray fight but that dude should DEFINATELEY have a movie made about his life-wow.

plus his losses to Ryo chnan and others of lower weights with terrible records.

i would love to see WANDY KO him in Brutal fashion!

by SoCalStunNa on Apr 21, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

enough with p4p

if u want record/skill/and finishes

miguel torres takes it

but no wand wont ko anderson, wand has perfect style for anderson to destroy

by phenomenal angel on Apr 21, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree WAND has a bad stlye to be matched up with silva but like i said I HOPE he would finish him!

Miguel Torres is another i dont like, lol.

by SoCalStunNa on Apr 21, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude I heard they where making a movie outta Murrays life,did you hear about how he KO’d tito in a alley and Matt Hughes even seen it.

that was talent down the drain!!

by NM on Apr 21, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i read about that on wiki, chuck was there too, murray knocked tito clean out, i wish i was there to see it lol.

it was a waste of talent he could have been a great

by ms on Apr 21, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was a waste of talent, he could have been one of the best, he had quicker hands than vitor belfort

by ms on Apr 21, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murray was allegedly involved into a scuffle with then-UFC light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz outside of a nightclub in London after UFC 38 in July 2002. Both drunk, Murray claims to have knocked Tito down, possibly knocking him out, and kicking him in the face. Pat Miletich, another UFC competitor, pulled Murray away and broke-up the fight. Tito denies any such events occurred but other UFC fighters claim witness to the altercation. In the Matt Hughes biography Made In America, Hughes relayed the incident as told to him by Miletich:
The entire alley erupted into a huge brawl. I was just standing there, and there were bodies flying all over the place. I was confused how it all happened, because it happened so fast. I was standing there with my mouth open like “what the hell is going on?” I looked over and Chuck Liddell was with his back against the wall, knocking people out that were trying to go after him. Then I looked over and there’s Tito directly past me, taking his coat off, going after Lee Murray, and Lee Murray’s backing up the alley taking his jacket off. Both their jackets come off, and Tito throws a left hook at Lee Murray and misses, and right as he missed, Lee Murray counters with, like, a five-punch combo, landed right on the chin, and knocked Tito out. OUT. Tito fell face-first down to the ground, and then Lee Murray stomped him on the face a couple of times with his boots. Then Tony Fryklund and I grabbed Lee and pushed Lee and said “Get out of here!” And Lee said “I’m sorry, I’ll see you later,” and took off. And Tony Fryklund helped Tito to his feet.

by ms on Apr 21, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was watchin the fight online and was giving my friend at work the play by play and I told him, Silva is wiping the vaseline off his face and rubbing on his chest and stomach. I’m sure the Quebec Athletic Commission saw it too. He’s screwed. Stay tuned…

by Glenn on Apr 21, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s all bj penns fault LOLOL

by Jrok on Apr 21, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

true that. double true.

F*ck BJ Penn… see what he’s started? I will say this though, 1) Cutmen should not leave clumps (and yes, i did say CLUMPS) of vaseline on a fighters face… as he sweats and the glob goes in his eye… that hurts and it would impair vision to the point of stopping a fight. 2) if cornermen can’t touch a fighter’s body with vaseline on their hands, neither should the fighters… i’m not accusing silva of cheating but, i guarantee… silva applied more grease to his stomach in that fight than GSP has ever put on his back by cornermen. And GSP took a lashing for that, basically discredited him for a 4 round destruction of bj penn. If NSAC or Zuffa in general are serious about this no greasing thing… a rule is a rule. If you make it, enforce it. Don’t protect certain guys and punish others.

by ironfist_55 on Apr 21, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s only one thing left to do, use the BJ Penn code:
1) Silva loses his belt.
2) Fine Silva 250K.
3) Make Silva shower in the cage before the bell at all his fights in front of 20,000 people.
4) Change UFC 100 card for another Silva vs Leites fight.
5) All Leites fans, family and hired PR people must spam all MMA websites with this complaint every single day for the next 3 months.

And, finally…
6) Thales Leites’ mother has to be involved in this, maybe she could make a video where she’s worried about her son’s health.

by ftg314 on Apr 21, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The only lubricant that fight needed was KY, because anyone who paid to watch that snoozefest really took it up the brown eye.

by TheIlluminati on Apr 21, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahahaah
ya 4 real!

although i did enjoy the stout/wiman liddell/rua matches.

by SoCalStunNa on Apr 21, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of lubicant,guys click on my name and check out the BJ pictures..funny stuff!!

by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 21, 2009 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

F BJ for making it come to this near tabloid mma stories. Anyone who even gives this any kind of validity needs a life. No impact to fight Whatsoever!

by scissorfight on Apr 21, 2009 2:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is too rediculous when he rubbed the vasoline from his face to his body it really had no affect cus that shit wears off after the first couple of sweat and for u guys out there sayin fuck bj penn do u guys even know his arguement.. im a big gsp fan but even ive come to sense that the first fight when gsp was on top of bj that he was able to put him in a gogo plata at the end of the 3rd round but if u watch closely the 2nd fight everytime he would try to put himself in a better position from the bottom he slipped off and ive done this a million times in class even when ur sweaty as hell theres still a chance from the bottom for alot of submissions but he couldnt cus he was slippin from the vasoline.. and last theres a difference between the 2 gsp used a shit load on his back n spider did it in the beginin of the fight.. like i said im a big gsp fan but its only fair that i say bj penn has a good arguement n u guys for criticizin silva the guy is at the last 4 fights u guys say stuff like oh hes borin blah blah blah just like what theyve been sayin about lyoto machida.. u may not like it but he doesnt take much damage n he finds a way to win period… at the end when u look at these guys record no one is gonna remember oh this fight was borin or this fight was like this n that, at the end what matters is the win he has on his record

by ftb21 on Apr 21, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whats funny is not only did he rub vasoline on himself but grabbed leites’s glove to stand back up……. Very disapointeding maybe now dana we’ll finally give us a fight with a top 10 guy …….but i can almost guarentee you he will feed him someone who IS a striker and ISNT a JJ guy…..pry someone small at 205 and someone he knows Andy can beat…..dana wont wanna risk his only hope at having a fighter he can be in contention of best p4p….most of us all know who it is, others just dont know it yet…GSP and Andy just switched spots for #2….you cant be considered p4p if ur one dimensional which im sorry but Andy is looking like

by bigsmoke on Apr 21, 2009 2:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Compare the two “greasegate” controversies, although I think both are bullshit. GSP’s team was applying the “grease” with an applicator. Anderson rubbed his face and, in some of your opinions, wiped down his whole body. Let me suggest this: find some vasoline and take the amount that doc administered to Anderson’s face, then apply it to your face and rub it in. After that, rub your face and wipe down your entire body. Hopefully, at that point you will see that this whole “controversy” is a senseless fiasco – a non-issue that was fueled by people’s distaste for the mediocre outcome of the fight. That being said, I CAN NOT WAIT to see the spider fight at 205.

by DudicalNotions on Apr 21, 2009 2:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love all the people who say this had no impact on the fight cause I didn’t even know they fought.

by Anderson Mayweather on Apr 21, 2009 3:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it´s fucking ridiculous, silva is a cheater no doubt about it, if GSP got so much crap 4 not even do it to him self, what should anderson get?? this is so obvious he´s lubing himself, one should think it´s a vaselin contest.

by Sweden on Apr 21, 2009 3:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know if Silva cheated or not! It doesn’t fit his perceived character, but then again, I don’t know him personally. However! It is clear that HE placed lubricant on forbidden areas! To me, that’s a disqualification! Period!
And I have read where several people have said here and during the GSP controversy, that it wouldn’t have made a difference. Well, if you say that greasing doesn’t make a difference, you have either have never grappled before, or have no clue of basic laws of physics! We’ve all heard Rogan and many others say on numerous occasions during fights, that it gets ALOT harder to pull off take downs and submissions when the fighters get sweaty! This is fact! If sweat makes it hard, imagine what Vaseline does! I like Silva, but, it’s a clear DQ in my oppinion! If fighters keep getting away with this, it will remove all honor from the sport! Either come down hard on this problem, or make greasing legal so we can all just get over it and move on!

by Dana's a CrossDresser on Apr 21, 2009 3:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anderson Silva needs to test himself against Nick Diaz there I said it…

by rashad evans next beats lyoto on Apr 21, 2009 4:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

by chad on Apr 21, 2009 5:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nick Diaz? You should better get some sleep men, you’re delusional.Nick Diaz can’t even beat Karo Parisyan and Diego Sanchez.

by Phasebook on Apr 21, 2009 5:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Couldn’t”….no.

“Can”….yes.

by introvert on Apr 21, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally think he greased himself.. actually I dont think, I know.. because I saw it. Everyone who was watching the fight with me seen Spider wipe the vaseline off his face and rub it on his chest.. SEVERAL TIMES. I have am slowly losing respect for him as a fighter

by Jen on Apr 21, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva is a cheater. And a BORING cheater to that.

Theres nothing more to say.

by lolop4345 on Apr 21, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva is #1 P4P. He never takes damage and his opponents never get anywhere with him. Fedor was taking a beating till his “desperation shot” on Arlovski. And for silva cheating try rubbing vaseline on your face then try getting some off and rubbing it over your whole chest , stomach , arms and see how much you get. Not much at all. People calling this like the GSP scandal its not like Anderson Silva pulled out a bottle of oil and rubbed his back then tried to hide it when the commission came.(Phil Nurse)

by Lyquid on Apr 21, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wotever you guys say silver is not a cheater. some of you people just can’t handle watching your favourite fighters get beat up by him! I hope ufc sort this oiling up the body stint out & get on with it, oil or no oil silver will still dominate who ever is in front of him. Hope ufc don’t turn out like WWF.

by sap on Jun 30, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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