i want my money back,if Dana is truely soory

There better be a free UFC coming up to make up for this fiasco.

cut thales of ufc

didnt get to watch much, tuned in towards end of rd 3. But Arlovski/Sylvia 3 was a huge snoozefest.

Anderson just has not looked himself his last two fights. He just seems he does not have that killer instinct right now. Is it the lack of competition? Is there something wrong with him? what i seen last night is not the same spider we seen against Franklin..

Everyone of us who watched it last night was pissed even before the main event. When I saw the main event starting at 10:45 I knew it was going to go all five and be boring. I was correct. Definately the worst event ever. Dana owes us a free event on spike.

While I do agree it was a snooze fest, I don’t think that the blame should be on Spider at all. Can he end it anywhere/anytime? There is no doubt about that. But you don’t start throwing haymakers and roundhouses to a guy who is prolly top 5 BJJ in the world. That is the perfect way to get armbared or leg locked in seconds.

Anderson SIlva was provong a point but he went overkill with it! Hes proving that no one wants to fight him and come right at him and that he can end a fight whenever he wants. I was PISSED! Silva should have just finished off Thales in the the later rounds after he made his “point”….maybe hes trying to get kicked out of the UFC so he can go fight Roy Jones Jr.

i blame leites he sucks i still wonder why he even got a shot at the title i still think silva should have fought okami so he could avenge that loss

lets not give credit to silva, he has fought his last two fights in the same fashion, he does not give a shit about entertainment, i dont think he gives a shit period, he clowns and disrespects, then doesn’t engage to win, i would not give a shit if i ever see him fight again, i do not care how " talented he is" nor do i give a fuck about joe rogans" casual fight fan comments " when it came to people booing. hey joe, go fuck yourself. you of all people know the value of entertainment! im ranting, that was the worst card, period, of any pay per view i have had the bad fortune of burning money on. this is basic economics, bad product, no cash flow.if silva is so good, then fight like it. engage and strike, the feeling out process is more like the not wanting to take a shot to land a shot process. i have “engaged” many times in my own personal hand to hand battles. to keep 5 to 6 feet away from your opponent is ridiculas. i enjoyed the “kalib starnes running man” a hell of alot morethan that mockery of a title fight. all the silva nuthuggers , GFYS.

sylvia vs orvlosky literally put me 2 sleep i mean i at least watched the whole fight last nite waiting for something to happen silva was very entertaining with all those weird kicks

I’d be embarrassed if my “P4P top fighter in the world” greased too……

http://www.youtube.com/watchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM8lRIwm9wg&feature=player_embeddedh?v=gM8lRIwm9wg&feature=player_embedded

Remember when Silva was fighting Cote, Spider was mostly defensive and picking his spots. Cote’s injury prevented the fight from ending conclusively, but Silva said he was just waiting to deliver the devastation in the final round or two. Last night makes you wonder whether he has lost his killer instinct. Dana needs to get someone with a strong attack in the octogon with Silva to see if he still has his edge like he did against Franklin and Marquardt.

This is what happens when you give fighters title shots when they are clearly not a top contender, it was the same with the Cote fight. Anderson is a counter striker, so he’s never been one for dictating the pace he likes fighters to come to him and that ain’t going to happen if his opponent knows he doesn’t stand a chance. Like Cote, Leites backed away for the whole fight because he had nothing that could trouble Silva but at the same time he didn’t want to get KO’d. If Dana had actually given him a competitive opponent then we could have had a much better main event than what we got. I for one never want to see Thales Leites anywhere near the main event again after that sorry excuse for a fight.

Im begging you Dana, stop wasting Andersons and the fans time with non contenders, just move up to 205…

did anyone else notice anderson wipe vasoline from his chin onto his upper body last night before the fight started?

I saw the boxing hype show 24/7 manny pac man p. against floyd mayweather sr’s latest trainee……on hbo, it was the 2nd installment 30 minutes long that was tonz more enterrtaining and had me wanting more thatn the 25 minutesplus bs oh yeah like 445 for last nights ufc. Last night stunk all around…the co main and maian event sucked !!! in this depression were in it wa not worth the 50 sum dollars to watch on hd.
Dana lower the price improve the product. WE all knew that t.Latest would be that another of SIlva’s latest looserz,
BUT NOT Like this it was pathetic on anderson Silva and Latest? well come on guys i was screaming this is stanky fight before last night.

Dana give us a free something?
what you all think?

Am I the only one that feels that Anderson is doing this intentionally? His last three opponents have been Leites, Cote and Irvin. Not exactly the type of competition (if you want to call it that) that will help cement you as the greatest fighter to ever live, which is what he said he would like to go down as. He is out there having a good time, playing with guys that have no business in the ring with him. WTF does Dana expect? Anderson will turn it on when they put up a fighter who will engage with Anderson and test him. I’m seriously worried that he is starting to get disinterested in his fights. Message to UFC: Stop wasting his f**king time and put a world class 205 lb. fighter in the ring with him. This sucks and I can’t blame Anderson for wanting to fight Roy Jones in a boxing match. At least then he will be challenged.

As I posted before… (because it looks like no one is reading the recap thread anymore, and I’m too lazy to type something from scratch):

Well, I do blame Anderson Silva for the boring fight.

He’s the champion. I expect more from him than from some random challenger.

Also, while I didn’t expect Silva to follow Leites to the ground, what excuse does Silva have for not engaging on the feet? For all the shuck-and-jive nonsense vs. a guy who can’t hit him, and who couldn’t hurt him if he did? Dancing around expecting Leites to attack so he could counter-punch at his leisure was just as absurd as Leites plopping down and expecting Silva to come down into his guard.

That, and it’s one thing to refuse to come to play when Leites sat down and hoped for a miracle, but it’s another thing entirely to repeatedly sweep Leites, then do nothing except stand there with his hands on his hips.

But specifics aside, the big issue here is that Silva didn’t look like he was working a boring but reasonable game plan – that would be acceptable. (I blame the promotion for putting on boring fighters, not the fighters themselves.) Instead, he looked like he was just messing around (He PUNCHED a guy in the leg! Come on!), like he didn’t even want to be there – for the second time in a row. Maybe it’s not the case, but he’s definitely coming across like it…

Spider vs. Wandi next. Make it happen. Bad blood…check. Challenger who brings the fight…check.

Forget about Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels… last night was the real “Montreal Screw-Job”… This was an opportunity to build hype for a mega-fight between Silva and GSP, with the spider having dominant victory in GSP’s home town…The worst part about it is the only people getting screwed here were the fans. Boo!

I don’t care how talented a fighter is, if they don’t use that talent, who cares. Sure, TL didn’t have what it took to make Silva do much, but that makes it Silva’s job to put an end to it the way a champion would…

In the end, I could care less about how good Silva is. He can be the all time greatest UFC fighter, but he isn’t fun to watch. He doesn’t deserve main events or even co-main events. He’s a sub-fight on a main card and that may light a fire under his talented ass.

Fans pay the bills, if they boo you, guess what, you get less money. Casual fan BS, who cares about that too. The casual fans are the people who pays the UFC and their fighters. People paid $50 to watch Mike Tyson knock people out in 3 minutes or less. They will not pay $50 to watch Silva clown around for however long he decides to dance around and showboat and make “points.”

Last night was the most worthless UFC PPV I shelled out money for. I would have rather watched TUF on Spike.

Maybe they will finally remove the hype machine that’s behind Anderson. I never believed in it all along. Yeah, he won the fight and he’s a good fighter but that’s not how “the best in the world” performs. Fedor is never ‘bored’ with his opponents, he goes in there and makes quick destruction of them whether or not they are of top contention.

i put the blame on leites, anderson fought great and never got touched, i mean he worked dudes knee in every way possable, even punched it, i never seen that before, and his little left leg behinde the right shin kick had me laughing. It was pretty obvious that anderson wasn’t being chanlenged (hands at his waste the whole fight) and was doing what he thought would light a fire under leites ass, it just did’t work, but the spider is a freak and no one can beat him, pleas bring in gsp so i can watch gsp get destroyed, with chuck out, anderson will be my favorit fighter who is still fighting, well maybe after randy retiers for good.

The worst non-title fights in ufc history were Koscheck/Sanchez tied with Starnes/Quarry

Silva just doesn’t care right now. He’ll dance at the end when he wins but he just doesn’t give a shit. Maybe it’s fame, lack of training, lack of competition, who really knows. He needs to get knocked out and embarrased and then we’ll see the old Silva again. I really don’t care when he’s fighting either. Thank you UFC for having this event when I was at a wedding. Money saved = XBOX UFC game

What i found to be the worst part of this fight is that the “Champ” is unable to put on a show without the other person throwing punches and counter attacking. Really exposed Anderson as a non-agressive fighter… All the articles I see blame Leites, but I would say Silva was more to blame than anyone for not doing anything.

the “fans” need to get off silva’s ass and celebrate the fact that he is still the greatest p4p fighter in the world. leites was not a good choice so if anything blame joe silva or dana white. when you sort of beat nate marquardt and your last fight before the title fight is fricken drew mcfedries, what the fuck do people expect. joe rogan said it over and over again…leites was just outclassed. you can’t blame silva, he’s the champ. he doesn’t need to knock anybody out from now until he retires, the guys who want the title need to try to knock him out. he does what he needs to do to win fights and keep his title…it’s his right, he’s the champ. final thought…his front leg kicks were cool, sort of throw back to bruce lee’s jeet kun do style. also, his high switch kick in the fourth round was bad ass. also, it looked as if a couple of times he was trying to set up his elbow uppercut but leites was tentative and never rushed in to attack. would have been a cool finish…youtube silva fryklund and see the elbow uppercut…it’s awesome.

For once i agree with Dana White this was a horrible card as a whole but probably the worst main event for a title fight i’ve seen.
As someone pointed out earlier Joe Rogan’s act has run it’s course. He’s really become annoying.
The only thing that made me not be completely disappointed by the night of fights was getting to see Chuck Liddell laid out on the canvas again.

you all bitch about this fight, wait til lyoto fights.soon all of you bandwagon jumpers will be complaining about him not engaging. i liked it. may have been a little boring but silva kept my crowd of guys at the house laughing with those crazy kicks and punches! he cant make them all ko fests. look at sylvias fights, i hate most of his, i’m glad he’s gone. talk about a bore fest! silva may retire sooner now because of the boo’s and lack of challengers, lets hope not.

Whenever you have someone not willing to engage both people will look bad. Look what happend the last time the UFC went to Montreal You can’t blame Silva just like you can’t blame Quarrey They were there to fight there opponents were there to survive. That being said this was the worst UFC event ever. There were fights on the under card I would have rather watched. Lets be honest the Strikeforce card last week was a 100 times better for a fraction of the cost.

i dont understand the silva hate. dana white even said at the press conference that ‘silva can bring it, but he didnt tonight’.

thats retarded, if the guy your fighting keeps flopping on the floor everytime you get aggressive towards them, they should be docked point.

in boxing, being no aggressive is punished.

this was not silva’s fault whatsoever.

Also, if you watch the whole press conference, you’ll see chuck liddell starts shouting at a reporter that trys to call silva ‘non – aggressive’ in his last two fights.

someone allready said it, but you cant blame a person who is generally a counter striker, if their opponent keeps flopping on the floor all the time.

this is joe silva and dana’s fault for putting 2 fighters that are not main event worthy against their best performing ‘counter strikers’.

I get pissed off with a lot of guys who have turned on Anderson Silva just because in his last two fights althought he has dominated he hasn’t delivered a devestating KO! What a load of bullshit, Silva executed perfect gameplans and outstriked both Cote and Leites, Silva can’t be blamed for his opponents relutance to fight or inability to be effective.

I’ve said all along that Leites shouldn’t have got a shot against Anderson, the guy barely got passed Marquardt (so what if he survived an illegal blow). Marquardt was the better guy that night he just made a stupid mistake, Leites couldn’t even beat Martin Kampmann anyone think Kampmann could survive against Silva? Okami is the only fighter on the UFC’s roster at Middleweight that deserves a title shot.

Make Silva vs. Okami and then let Silva got up and try his luck at 205.

Hands down, the worst main event in UFC no question.

I think Bisping and Silva would of been a better match up then TL. I think MMA fans knew from the beginning that TL was going to keep him on the ground.

As with all dominant champions the division that he dominates start to dream up ways to beat him.

As anderson silva is such an effective striker one of the stupid ways to ways to for the contenders to fight against him is to try and lure him into the ground game without taking some blows which leads to a very crap fight.

Hopefully the middleweight division took last night as a lesson i.e ANDERSON SILVA IS A TRULY GREAT FIGHTER BUT NOT INVINCIBLE AS COTE BEGAN TO UNRAVEL SO MIDDLEWEIGHTS FOLLOW COTE’S LEAD KEEP KNOCKING AT THE “STAND UP TO HIM” DOOR AND ONE DAY IT WILL OPEN.

And thats coming from a big anderson silva fan.

The problem wasn’t silva. If you are a ground fighter you have to get the other guy to the ground not just lay down and hope he falls on you. Even Chuck was pissed! Fights start on the feet you have to engage and take your guy down to make it a BJJ match. If I am silva i don’t fall on leites when he falls on the ground that is a dangerous position for silva. So if leites wants the fight on the ground he has to put it there! If leites can’t he has to strike and he wouldn’t do that!

Dana you should be embarrassed, shame on you for not being able to put a quality opponent against Silva. Shame on Silva for disrespecting his last two opponents, the croud and the ufc. Obviously there is no doubt that silva is the greatest since the ufc failed to give him an opponent that could the very least give him a cut ? , dent him maybe just a little ? Ruff him up a little ?

Silva is clearly bored, unchallenged, uninspired, and has no interest in being in the cage against the fighters you appoint him . Dana you need to give him a real challenge quickly, someone who can very well knock his ass and give him a beat down, OR say goodbye and let your beloved Silva go so I can see him fight elsewhere inspired.

BTW: You really need to make learning english a top priority in your ufc contracts. Silva still doesnt know any english and for that reason there is no connection to the fans, lack of interest, and would save us from hearing ed sorce.

I really think Silva did not want to destroy Thales, because he is Brazilian. Even before the fight Anderson said it is ashame I have to fight a Brazilian. Anderson needs to fight at 205 period.

Anderson Silva after entering the Octagon and just before going to his corner, TOUCHED his face with both hands and rubs his chest, shoulders, neck and arms with VASELINE. Think I’m lying? Watch it for yourself!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM8lRIwm9wg

the blame for the bad event goes to joe silva and dana white

What a load of nonsense some of these posts are.

“It’s not Silva’s fault, he’s a counter-puncher…”

If you’re a striker, and you go into a fight with a BJJ guy planning to counter-punch, there’s something terribly wrong with your gameplan.

By the same “logic”, it’s not Leites’ fault either, because he’s a BJJ guy and his opponent wouldn’t grapple, wouldn’t go to the ground.

Here’s the deal, as simple as I can put it, for those who still don’t get it:

If you’re a striker, and you go after your opponent but he not only refuses to engage but flops down to the ground, hoping you’ll grapple with him, then you can strut around looking impatient, and stand there with your hands on your hips. You might end up looking bad anyway, but at least it’s not your fault.

On the other hand, if you’re a striker and you’re content to just wait for a grappler to bring the stand-up to you, so you can then dodge and counter without risking any damage, then (unless maybe you’re fighting Matt Hamill, who’ll walk into anything) your’re living in a fantasy world, and at least half of the responsibility for the horrible, boring fight that ensues is on you.

Anderson Silva was fighting a guy who:

1. Could barely hit him, never mind hit him accurately
2. Had no knockout power
3. Had a noticeable reach disadvantage
4. Could barely take him down
5. Wasn’t actually able to threaten him with a submission, even when he was briefly on top, much less from his back
6. Was badly gassed during the second half of the fight
7. Could barely stand on his left leg during the second half of the fight

Even if high kicks and the clinch were too risky, because of the minuscule chance of Leites being able to try a takedown and a submission, Silva had a minimum of 10 minutes late in the fight when he could have used his hands to pepper Leites with combinations with as close to complete impunity as you can get inside the cage. Unfortunately, he couldn’t even be bothered to do that much…

You cannot say that the entire blame should be put on j.silva and dana. There are a handful of names that could have been thrown in there besides thales. Bisping and hendo were contractually obligated to fight one another bc of TUF. Marquarht and maia fought at 95 and wandy just lost. The matchmakers did the only logical thing they could do. It was either have silva sit on the sidelines for another 6-8 months or have him fight a pretender and expect him to do what he has done 7 out of his 8 previous fights and dominate. Saying that I think silva could have and should have finished that fight much sooner. Like dand said he had opportunities when leites was fetal and just stood up playing games. Its one thing to play to the crowd, but when you have a fighter covering up as much as leites did you could have finished that fight. And everyone sayin silva was smart for stayinf off the ground. He is a BJJ black belt as well for the nog brothers he is more then well equpiied to defend a talented fighter on the ground. Overall disappointing night. So i end with a question… do they hold off silva for another 6 months and wait for the GSP showdown barring any injuries or throw a top 205er at him???

UFC and fight coordinator, Joe Silva need to take some accountability for setting up this match. Its not Anderson Silva’s fault that his opponent was a fish. Anderson Silva just fights whoever they put in front of him. It is really upsetting to see them throw The Spider under the bus.

yeah Matt I’m with ya bro. Anderson was a disgrace last night. 90% of his attack was the side kick to TL’s knee. That in itself is kind of a cheap way to win a fight. I’m suprised TL’s leg didn’t break. Where were the combos, where was the flying knees, and where the hell was the thai clinch. Everything about his performance (except that little bit of GnP) was very unbecoming of a champion. I was thinking maybe he was pissed of at the UNJUSTIFIED criticism of his last fight and just wanted to show what a truly dismal performance would look like. Dana owes us big time for that minimalistic approach to winnning that we all paid to see.
Anderson, I used to really admire you but that was total horse shit.

anderson as been my favorite fighter for a long time. but last night was absolutely hard to watch. i respect anderson for not jumping into thales’s guard. why should he endanger himself certainly not so fans can be entertained. i do not respect thales’s for flopping on the ground anytime anderson engaged him. i really lose respect for thales doing it in rounds 4 and 5 when he knew he couldnt win the fight without pressing the pace.

fighters that do what thales does should be deducted a point for not engaging and flopping on the ground. what was anderson supposed to do? that said, i also think anderson is fighting smarter fights than he used to and i really dont know how i feel about that. remember early in is travis lutter fight, he threw a flying knee on lutter’s first takedown attempt. but to tell you the truth, while that was ballyz, it was stupid and risky.

last nights fight was a total mismatch. dana should be embarassed and apologize to all the fans for putting together such a horrible fight on paper before the fight even happened. anderson’s job is to win fights. and last night he really didnt need to do much in order to make that happen because thales didnt even challenge him to try to win.

dana needs to put worthy challenger that can bring the best out of anderson silva if he wants to see something spectacular and entertaining. last night thales could not compete with anderson standing or wrestling. he had the strategy that as soon as anderson starts to trade i will flop on the ground and not fight. terrible. how did he think he was gong to win? i dont think ive ever seen a bjj practioner win a fight like that. look at damien mia, you have to engage,close the distance, and get to the ground to start your bjj game. you cant expect your opponent to just jump into your biggest strength.

im not really that worried because i think if dana starts putting fighters that actually want to win against anderson we will see amazing fights. thales was not there to win. he was there to waste people’s time and survive.

$50 for PPV or $1000 for a couple of seats at the Bell either way, shit entertainment value. Silva touted as best pound for pound fighter in the world?? Sure as hell din’t look anywhere close last night. Theres a long list of guys with more heart that would kill for the opportunities offered this guy. The damage is done, drop him like a hot rock. I for one won’t pay dime one to see this guy again. Dana, are you listening….??

I think Silva wanted to keep his distance so he wouldn’t get taken down. Beating Leites is no easy task in my opinion.

I honestly don’t think it was Silva’s fault.

Silva is trash. Either he can only counter-punch, or he’s lazy. But that was the worst fight I’ve ever seen. He’s disrespectful to his oppponents. I never want to see him as the main event again!

To me he’s a punk. He’s got abnormally small legs so he can squeeze into a weight-class where he outsizes everyone, thats it. the guys in the 205 division will eat him for breakfast.

Both of them are garbage.

Leites should be cut and Silva should be stripped.

Then he can try and take it back if he really wants to fight still and not just dance around.

He’s not the top pound for pound fighter anymore.

One thing I noticed too was silva actually wipes his faces with the grease and rubs in on his chest!!!! LMAO right after greasegate LOL he should have rubbed some one his shoulders too, LOL. Maybe he want’s to get kicked out of the UFC and go boxing, crazy performance last night, even worse than him and cote.

It is absolutely TL’s fault and Joe Silva’s fault that this fight was as lame as it was. I fully understand that TL is a BJJ master and that he obviously wanted to take this fight to the mat. However, by default, both fighters are on their feet. Therefore, if TL wanted to use his BJJ, it was his responsibility to take The Spider down. He did that once and and couldn’t do a thing in The Spider’s guard. After that, he threw himself on the mat like a fish every time The Spider was closing in on him. How on Earth could anybody fault The Spider for not doing more on his feet when TL would constantly throw himself on the mat?

That said, I think Silva could have did at least a little bit more Ground and Pound on TL. I respect that he was cautious as he had more to lose (his belt, and he was obviously ahead on the card), but the little while he was on top with ground and pound, he looked dominant enough to do it some more.

One more thing, this makes me respect GSP a lot more for not being afraid to go on the mat with BJJ specialist, BJ Penn. Greasegate scandal aside, I’m pretty sure GSP would have still dominated that fight on top. I think this needs to be taken into consideration before referring to The Spider as the pound for pound best.

mania what exactly is going on when i post something and it never posts. then when i try to repost is says im duplicating a post.

anderson as been my favorite fighter for a long time. but last night was absolutely hard to watch. i respect anderson for not jumping into thales’s guard. why should he endanger himself certainly not so fans can be entertained. i do not respect thales’s for flopping on the ground anytime anderson engaged him. i really lose respect for thales doing it in rounds 4 and 5 when he knew he couldnt win the fight without pressing the pace.

fighters that do what thales does should be deducted a point for not engaging and flopping on the ground. what was anderson supposed to do? that said, i also think anderson is fighting smarter fights than he used to and i really dont know how i feel about that. remember early in is travis lutter fight, he threw a flying knee on lutter’s first takedown attempt. but to tell you the truth, while that was ballyz, it was stupid and risky.

last nights fight was a total mismatch. dana should be embarassed and apologize to all the fans for putting together such a horrible fight on paper before the fight even happened. anderson’s job is to win fights. and last night he really didnt need to do much in order to make that happen because thales didnt even challenge him to try to win.

Last Night kind of reminded me of a Tim Sylvia fight. Anderson was fighting not to lose instead of fighting to win…..which always makes for a boring fight…

I noticed the “grease” thing too….

He could have EASILY finished off Leites instead of playing like Muhammid Ali (tho it was interesting at times).

Leites had NO BUSINESS in there and Anderson should be embarassed too!

From now on the only people i want to see Anderson fight are:
-GSP
-Marquardt II
-Maia
-WANDY
-Mousassi
-205 LBers

*Chuck is officilaly retired according to Dana (Which i found “prickish” let Chuck announce/decide that).

Kongo is the NEXT in line for a Title Shot…

*Shogun is def Back and with 2 more wins over quality opponents (Jardine, Franklin, Forrest, loser of evans/lyoto) i could see him getting a title shot.

I wasn’t too entertained with the whole Anderson Silva show in his last two fights. I understand that he is a smart fighter and will not engage where is putting himself at risk….but whats with the hand punches to the legs and the dance routine. I think he should have figured from the Chicago crowd that no one gives a shit about some of his showboating antics. I think this made the Canada crowd even more pissed as well as a Dana. Its crazy that he did this for 5 rounds. I think watching Lyota is ten times more entertaining because at least he’s make moves to improve his position either standing or on the ground. It seems like Anderson Silva has become a little disinterested in his opponents so I think Joe S. needs to come up with some fierce strikers that will give him a harder time at 205 or with GSP ASAP.

If this doesn’t do, maybe Dana should throw him to the boxing world so he can get his ass kicked by Roy Jones..maybe it’ll send him back to reality.

As for Thales L……he should known better after the 20th time of sitting missionary that Anderson wasn’t going to fuck him. It is one thing if this were a Judo match or Jiujitsu competition, but cmon…its the UFC……if you don’t get grapple or sub in…you’re gonna have to figure another way……the same goes to Vinny M. I can’t believe that some of these BJJ guys think people will go by their rules of fighting.

that’s what dana gets for constantly passing over ushin okami cause he feels he’s not an exciting fighter. i could be wrong but i’m guessing okami wouldn’t be as intimidated by silva like leites seemed to be. the ufc needs to stop worring about what a fight might turn out to be and put the proper contenders in the cage.

About all the greasing comments, Let it go!! Are we going to have to hear this after every event now?? Did Anderson spread the Vaseline from his face on his body?? SURE DID!! The UFC changed all the rules after grease gate, only cut men can apply Vaseline sparingly to the face and those cut men are assigned to the fighters. There is no rule saying they can’t rub that off and redistribute it. He may not want that shit on his face? Everyone say it, he didn’t try to hide it, so obviously its a legal move.

I think we should come up with a list of the worst fights ever in the UFC. This has to be a top 5er. Starnes/Quarry is my #1. Any thoughts??

This was the worst fight i have ever seen ive seen ametur fights better than that thales should not be allowed back in the ufc hes a pussy and silva should have just finished him on the ground like we all know he could have

Matt I am with you on this, this is what I think is going on with anderson silva, and to me seems pretty damn obvious….

pre silva/cote fight cote was super respectful towards silva I dont think silva wanted to rearrange cotes face like he did to franklin I also believe silva felt bad about almost moving franklins nose to the back of his head he also felt bad about slicing irvings face in half

so now we come to lietes a fellow brazillian, if it was up to silva he would rather not fight anyone of his countrymen and dont for once think that the fighters dont watch the countdown shows to see how it turns out so here we have lietes a fellow brazillian who is nice respectful young fighter with his wife excited about the girl they will be having soon and then you have lietes mom talking about her beloved son if you think silva doesnt pay attention to that stuff youre crazy

and silva knows that lietes is not making that much money anyways so the last thing he wants to do is hurt this kid

now to the fight when you watch it again pay special attention to 1 min left in the third round lietes is completely defensive with his back on the cage the same position franklin was in in thier first fight lietes neck was bent forward and silva could have easily put him in a tie clinch and kneed his face till lietes was out or the ref stepped in but he didnt want to, he would rather coast to a UD victory without inflicting to much damage

silva is a fighter who doesnt want to hurt some of his opponents i also want to mention before franklin/silva I franklin was talking about how he didnt feel anderson even deserved a title shot with a win over leben and everyone knows what happend to rich

the way to bring the killer instinct out in silva is to match him up against guys like hederson and marquardt who did not give silva the respect other guys have shown he has no problem going in for the kill fighting a guy like dan who says hes ganna kick his ass that hes not that good its just people are scared of him and remember when silva refused to touch gloves with dan at the beginning of the bout and also remember when silva wanted to help cote to his feet during the actual fight

its pretty apparent silva is very religious and he knows his body is a human weapon to me he doesnt have a fighters mentallity when it comes to having to face someone he has take a liking to or someone he knows doesnt stand a chance against him

you may not agree but to me thats what i see is going on

a rematch with henderson will change this ih ope..

I think it sucked

Put "The Spider" in with Brock or Congo. Make him earn his money as well as the fans respect. If a fighter does not engage on the ground like Anderson did I believe that one point should be taken away from him each time he does it during the fight. I will just watch reruns from now on and NOT give my money to the pay perview in the future. Dana does a great job I trust he will not allow Anderson to do this for the 3rd time!!!!!!!

I Think the blame for this main event goes on alot of people. First JOE Silva for putting scubs against a champ and hyping them to be no1 contenders. Second leites it is your shot to take the title from a great fighter once in a lifetime deal and thats what you do? Last Anderson silva WHAT IS EVERY STRIKER DREAM IN A FIGHT. To have a guy who cant take you down doesnt want to throw down. Any elite striker would have finished leites quick. Silva in my opionon u just move 2 spots down in pfp list fedor1 gsp2 silva3. The ufc doesnt want people that will just milk a win. When people do that they are just hurting theirselves. Silva is that is your actual style then u are 10 times as worse as machida. I gurantee machida would of finished a guy not willing to engage.

This was by far THE WORST UFC event I have ever seen! Anderson had to know that the audience was losing interest in this bout after the first round, and still he did nothing to show that he was worthy of being in the main event. In my opinion, he would have garnered alot more respect from the paying fans if he had actually taken Leites up on one or more of his (too) many invitations to take it to the ground. Anderson ended up looking like a spoiled brat that only wanted to fight in one style. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dana had another free event very soon to make up for this incredible waste of time and money.

hey the boxing fight of donaire in viloria yesterday was 10x more exciting than this fight….lol…so happy i bought the boxing ppv…only 25 dollars

i agree with alot of you guys. last night i was highly diassapointed. but i think what will show us all the real anderson again, would b a fight with wanderlei, either he will need to perform as he has in the past, like again hendo or franklin, or he will end up gettin caught by wandy. so i think if he goes to 205 next that would be good. or if not he needs to fight wandy.

i just heard the Dana interview..and i find a little disturbing is his statement of Chuck not fighting at all….even in some other promotions…what a …sure he cares for lidell’s health.but it didnt even sound that he and lidell talked first before announcing it…its like Dana controls CHuck and thinks for CHuck…WHAT A CONTROL FREAK!!!Dana is a WEIRDO

Dana’s just going to make him an offer $$$ he can’t refuse. Maybe create a new position fo r him. Executrive director of fighter relations.

wahhhh wah wahhhhhhhh. All I hear on here is a lot of whining. What are you all, two years old?

You could tell, in what the third round that Anderson was pissed because that side kick to the knee was intended to brake his leg…Hasn’t anyone on these forums ever played sports you usually play up to the competition …He had none!!!!! It’s hard to do moves when the guy is doing nothing. A person with a game plan is setting things up…Leites wasn’t doing anything but trying not to be hit..Anderson was pissed that u can see but you play to the competition. Diana needs to be pissed that he sent a boy out to face a man what did he expect!!!!!

Not even close to AA-Sylvia, this was terrible. And there have been worse main events than that, I expected that comment from Holland, but not you mania…tear…

I think that Dana and Joe Silva need to make the fight between GSP and Anderson happen so that Anderson can beat the crap out of GSP and quiet all the Canadians that were booing and chanting GSP during the fight. I personally dont care if Anderson doesn’t speak english. I’d rather hear his translater than hear Hammill try to explain anything. Dana shouldn’t be putting down his P4P fighter. Dana says he’s PFP the best because he fights top contenders , but puts Leites in there? They should have put Okami in there. I’m a fan and will order pretty much any mma event so for anybody saying they will never order a fight with Anderson on the card is pretty much full of ish and is not a real fan of mma.

THE BEST PART OF THE SPIDER FIGHT WAS WHEN HE TRIED TO BREAK THALES LEITES LEG BY KICKING HIS KNEE BACKWARDS. I WAS WISHING SPIDER BROKE HIS LEG SO WE NEVER HAVE TO SEE THALES LEITES AGAIN. HE WAS SCARED OF SPIDER PERIOD. YOU CANT FIGHT WHEN YOUR SCARED.

VOTE THALES LEITES FOR THE BIGGEST PUSSY IN THE UFC. BUT HE HAS STIFF COMPETITION WITH DAMIAN MAIA. MAIA SAID HE WANTS TO FINISH A FIGHT WITHOUT HURTING HIS OPPONENT.

 THESE TWO SHOULD HEADLINE A GRAPPLING MATCH SOMEWHERE AND QUIT WASTING OUR MONEY.

Well the bright side is that Dana will probably “heavily counsel” Mir and Lesnar on bringing a good fight to the table at UFC 100. After Saturday, I cannot think of another natch up that I would actually pay for.

I think they should scrap Franklin vs Wandy and replace it with Spider vs Wandy. Franklin has nothing to gain if he beats Wandy at a catch weight. And if Wandy loses, what then? His existence as a fighter becomes in question. Give Franklin a fight with Jardine instead so with that win he is thrown into the 205 mix. As much as I’m not a Tito Ortiz fan, Spider vs Ortiz,at 205, would make big money but would still need a decent co-headline. Robbie Lawler anyone?
In the end, as with the majority I would love to see a fight with GSP.