Chuck Liddell: Retirement now seems likely with UFC 97 loss
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Quoteworthy:
"At the end of the day, I care about these guys. I don't want to see anybody stick around too long. You're never going to see Chuck Liddell on the canvas again.... Tonight was the end of an era. One of the greatest guys in the sport just fought his last fight tonight."
UFC President Dana White sticks to his pre-UFC 97: "Redemption" guns, saying that his good friend and big time money-making machine, former light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell, is packing it in after a technical knockout loss to Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at the Bell Center in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, last night. It marked the fourth loss in his last five fights for the 39-year-old "Iceman," as well as, according to White, the end of and era -- perhaps no single fighter was more responsible for putting the sport on the map than the San Luis Obispo, Calif., native. We'll pass along a more detailed report as the dust begins to settle on this unfortunate -- albeit inevitable -- result. Like when we hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
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Chuck, thanks for the spectacular fights you have put on in your career. Thanks for making what the UFC is today.
by Zach on Apr 19, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sad to see him go out like this, but i guess he even knows himself its time! the man is a legend, never picked fights, no shit talk about other fighters, class act that will never be replaced, next entrant to the ufc hall of fame!
by jslim on Apr 19, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m disapointed seeing him go out like this but it happens to everyone at some point, i’ve been a huge fan of his since i first started watching. i always thought it was a load of crap when people say that you can only get knocked out so many times and it becomes easier and easier but i do think theres a lot of truth to that, look at the shot that dropped him, 2-3 years ago that would’nt have even phased him, its not like it was a clean power shot, he was even moving backwards when it hit. in a way i’m glad he’s finished now rather than him leaving it to late, i just hope he’s not remembered for his last few fights but for the fights with the likes of tito, randy and wandi
by hughes on Apr 19, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I thought Chuck had one more fight in him and could pull off the win against Rua, but was very evident that his age has caught up with him. He landed a few good shots and one has to wonder what he would actually do to Shogun had he been 10 years younger and not as slow as the snail he was last night. Its all good. Chuck will go down as one of the best in my book. Was a sad moment last night but it happens to every fighter eventually. Thanks for all the fights Chuck.
by c-war on Apr 19, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think D White is doing the right thing… but he shouldn’t say to much about it right now… he should have let Chuck say it to the public when he’s had a little time to let it settle in.
by DAVE A on Apr 19, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel you man…Chuck is a legend! Nobody wants to see him go out like Shamrock. But at the end of the day, Liddell is a hero for MMA! Hopefully he will gracefully retire now.
by CgsOX on Apr 23, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
WAR ICEMAN YOU WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR ALL YOUR WICKED KNOCKOUTS AND YOUR LEGENDARY SLUGFESTS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE FIRST BIG STAR OF MMA
by Jared on Apr 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew my boy Shogun was going to win (OK a little nervous), but Chuck IS NOT DONE! If Dana is stupid enough to let him go then there are a few orginizations that will pay him probably more than he is making in the UFC. Keep those hands up Chuck and you’ll be fine.
by Bluepit on Apr 19, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude was fighting top guys at the age of 40. Awesome. I’d like to see what Rashad/Shogun/Rampage are doing when they are 40. I wish he could have gone out on top. But even his “loss” list is an MMA who’s who. Thanks for everything Chuck. And here’s hoping the guy that retired you goes far.
by wAyNe on Apr 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does everyone on this site live in chucks nutsack? probably y he was so slow against SHOGUN!
by dingo on Apr 19, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the memories Chuck! Has been an honour and a pleasure watching your career unfold over the years!
it would be nice to try and get Dana to put Chuck in one last catchweight bout or something. almost as a sideshow attraction… say 195 against rich franklin?
by b rock on Apr 19, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No way,Chuck needs to walk away,anymore would be just wrong.He is a legend and he should be remembered as that,not what we had to see last night.He can no longer take a punch,any more fights would be putting his life at risk.
by scott on Apr 19, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, if he had one more I’d say pull Bonnar out of the fight against Coleman and put Chuck in there. A swansong for the two old timers. Bonnar can fight someone else.
Either that or just call it a day now I’d say.
by RobH86 on Apr 19, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So sad right now. I got into MMA when Chuck and Tito were going to fight. Hope we see him around the Octagon as a commentator or something. Hes a funny dude, a Joe rogan/Chuck Liddell combo would be good.
by Raj on Apr 19, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice friend Dana is, speaking on Chuck’s behalf…prick.
Chuck said “I’ll retire in the gym…not the ring.” I’ll wait for him to say it.
by introvert on Apr 19, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t agree with you any more. He needs to shut up and let the man make the call on his own. What a dick
by Ethan on Apr 19, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Took the words right out of my mouth. Dana, as usual,is getting a little big for his britches.
by chefdaddy on Apr 19, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do believe Dana cares about fighters in general at Chuck in particular, but there is more to this story. Trust me, money is also a major factor. This isn’t much different than in the major team sports when an aging superstar is in the twilight and still commands a super high salary. Chuck is still among the highest paid fighters in the UFC, and I don’t believe Dana wants to fight the battle of forcing Chuck to take less cash if he continues to fight, especially since the fights aren’t likely to be high profile. From the UFC’s business perspective, how can you justify paying Chuck top dollar? Trust me, part of this is about Dana wanting to avoid a very uncomfortable situation with a fighter and friend as responsible as anyone for building the UFC flagship.
by CL on Apr 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
among the highest paid? he IS the highest paid
by brendan on Apr 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok this was just stupid…. if u read the lines correctly and actually take ur time to study this damn story dana is willing to pay chuck more money to stay out of the ring than how much he would get fightin!!!! dont u get it dana white actually cares about his fighters specially chuck lidell… hes not releasin him from his contract he just wants whats best for chuck n stop fightin while he still can talk…
by ftb21 on Apr 19, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No sorry….you are the one who can’t read. Also…morons who cannot spell as well as an average 2nd grader should not use the word stupid in any post.
by CL on Apr 19, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the highest paid, and of course Dana cares about Chuck.. what i don’t like is how they talk about how Chuck in such a big part of building the UFC, yes he was.. but he was never the biggest draw, Tito was!
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s saying he is out of the ufc, not done fighting. that’s his decision to make and he said that if it wasnt a quality performance this is what would happen. im not a big dana fan but in this instance i have no qualms about his actions.
by connor on Apr 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you guys make of Anderson greasing?
Of topic, and I know I posted this in another section, but hopefully mods will let it be posted again (probably more traffic in this section)……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM8lRIwm9wg&feature=player_embedded
Even more blatant than the GSP “Grease-Gate” if you ask me.
by introvert on Apr 19, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont think it had anything to do with the outcome.
by Fokman on Apr 19, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also think the blatant grab of the gloves in I believe the 2nd or 3rd is illegal too!
by kevin on Apr 19, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s the refs and judges job to control that..
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the cutman and all of those guys before they step in, not judges..
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it was the commision that stepped in on GSP not the cutman or ref.
by scott on Apr 19, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, good for them.. It’s ok to grease until they do something about it!
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I posted in another thread I think is waaaaay worse than GSP as he is doing it to himself repeatedly.
If this is not investigated (considering the chastising GSP got) I will be disgusted.
Leites pretty much had 1 chance of winning the fight and this just ruined it for him.
by Ca$z on Apr 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think it canged the outcome, but i was disgusted anyways. im not sure if it will be investigated though, i think leites has to file a report, and he’s not the kind of guy to make an excuse after losing. i think the most silva will get is a fine, if not just a reprimand
by connor on Apr 19, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucksBut the commision in Quebec is not the same than Vegas.So a lots of rules change.I am not saying that’s legal,but i doubt they’ll do anything.
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 20, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that last night,I was wondering why nobody said anything ,he clearly did it on purpose.I started looking for it when he was right outside the octagon and he walked over to the guy in the crowd,I was like this looks shady,then he wiped the vasoline from his face all over his body,yet nobody said anything
by scott on Apr 19, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought there was a new rule that said no hugging before they step into the octagon..
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the rule stated once they have their shirt off they were no longer allowed to hug
by scott on Apr 19, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never been much of a chuck fan, but he was dominant for a long time. I thought he had hurt shogun a few times last night, but then he got KO’d. I said Chuck would win but wanted Shogun to win. Got my wish!
by kevin on Apr 19, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck’s too slow..
Shogun looked pretty amazing last night, when i saw him move around i knew he was going to win!
felt bad for Chuck though
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said “Oh no” after the first few seconds. Chuck looked like half the man he used to be from the beginning. I wish I could have seen Shogun challenged more. I hope Shogun gets a big name for his next fight.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Apr 19, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehe, Chuck was almost as big of a name you can get in the UFC.. his next fight will be a title eliminator i have no doubt about that!
that’s just how it goes for Chuck he’s 39 and his reactions and speed isn’t there.. If Randy Couture would have decided to fight at 205 he would have gotten demolished too, they are so fast and better athletes than the HW’s..
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Shogun should fight Cain at UFC 100 and then rematch Forrest after he fights Sliva
by Robert(1) on Apr 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed i think shoguns back in top form, as soon as i seen chuck walk in me and all my buddies just had this feeling he was going to get ko’d. but shogun wow he looked great he got the takedown, striking looked amazing and he went for subs. i think shoguns ready to finally become a legit lhw again
by Jared on Apr 19, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I actually thought the same Kevin. I’m happy Shogun won as a loss would have been devastating for him. Chuck wasn’t going to go on much longer win or lose but at 27 a loss for Shogun may have seen him go the way of Murilo (Never quite be top tier again).
by RobH86 on Apr 19, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Chuck should stick around for commentating or maybe become an analyst on ESPN MMALIVE.
Chuck is an icon and sad that he had to go out this way. I’d like to see him fight a shitbag tomato can just for an easy ko so we can see him in victory one last time.
by thetuf75 on Apr 19, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’ll be back guys. These kinds of decision can’t be made in an emotional state like this. They are upset and rightfully so. But it’s all drama.
This retirement will be like Randy Couture’s retirement, a lot of drama and then a very dramatic comeback. Mark my words, if down the road UFC “accidentally” gets a mediocre, boring LHW or HW champion that they think Chuck can beat, they will bring him back he I wouldn’t be surprised if he got the title shot right away, or just with one prep fight against some can.
I don’t think it would happen in 2009, but 2010 or early 2011 is very possible.
by aman on Apr 19, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well he cant take a punch anymore. atleast randys chin never gave out
by Jared on Apr 19, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definetly knew it was comin, but to see it semi official is very sad. Chuck litteraly put the UFC on the world wide map. Thanks Chuck, I am sure you will be heavily involved with Dana, Lorenzo and Zuffa. Probably even be part owner.
by yoububg on Apr 19, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about that, Chuck doesn’t seem to be much of a business man, he just likes to fight.
by RoB on Apr 19, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has the money, has the mma experience, and happens to be best friends with Dana. I am sure if there was an offer on the table he would bite.
by yoububg on Apr 19, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hated to see the day that this would happen. I am a huge fan of Chuck as are many people, but you cannot beat father time, and Chuck looked slow last night. I hope he does hang them up. He has proved everything he can, and thats all a fan can ask for. Love him or hate him you have to respect what the man did for this sport..
by miles on Apr 19, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE CHUCK! Thanks for the great fights man!! All these other fighters will have their time expire someday too! Its a fact of life, we age. I’m just glad he didn’t get completely KO’d…. At least Chuck went out like a man!
by Chadx23 on Apr 19, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FYI, did you all watch the post fight presser? Chuck seemed to be alright with this maybe being his last fight. He was smiling so that was good too see….I think he was also defending A. Silva too and got into it with some journalist.
by Chadx23 on Apr 19, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to believe. Thanks for the memories chuck.
by unf*&kingbelieveable on Apr 19, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not surprised that he lost but really thought he’d pull it off. Congrats to Shogun.
by Jon on Apr 19, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is all a way to hype up his UFC hall of fame induction at UFC 100. He will be back after that mark it down.
by Fokman on Apr 19, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Chuck sticks around for a few more fights, win or lose I am still and will always be a fan.
by bigmcmac on Apr 19, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope I get to see chuck knocked out a few more times. I loved that fight last night, and I am sick of everyone jumping on chucks dick because he faught his way out of the trailer park. He was an excellent fighter, very technical, when he was younger, but he is dumb for not changing his game to match his abilities. He could still be a great fighter, but his brain and his ego get in the way. Maybe he can move over to showtime and beat up Tito again,…bye bye bad haircuts, hello Leyoto Machita.
by zen13 on Apr 19, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All i can say is go away you damn troll!!
by mike22 on Apr 19, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck is the man, this sport was dominated by dry humping wrestlers at the time chuck got big, his KO’s changed the game for the better, and made mma watchable. He Will always be my favorite fighter
by Blazy J on Apr 19, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shogun vs winner of forrest vs thiago silva? So I would assume forrest vs shogun 2.
by mr guillotine on Apr 19, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s the OG of the UFC man. The appeal of watching the modern knockout artist was formed by this guy. I was rooting hard and you could see Shogun could feel Chuck’s power. He just had the angle and threw a clean left – Don’t know how many times you have to say it, but the combination of the strength and accuracy of a punch from a world class athlete like Rua will drop most men no matter who you are. Chuck’s not immovable and it was a well placed left hand.
I want to see Chuck continue to fight as well but I don’t think he will – like a few people are saying, his game hasn’t evolved with time. He needs to shake things up a little bit…maybe ditching Hackleman would be a good start if he thinks he’s got another. But I would be happy to see him retire with his reputation intact as one of the most feared men to ever fight in the cage. Man did you see how little Shogun looked next to him at 205??
by djmatt604 on Apr 19, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What bothers me is that Chuck is a great counter puncher and every time he comes forward lately he gets knocked out. In my opinion if he let the action come to him he will fair much better. What makes me laugh is Goldie and Joe saying Shogun has seemed to corret his cardio problem. That is laughable the fight didn’t last five minutes.
War Liddell
by Mike on Apr 19, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and with that, we will now see lidell in strikeforce. mark my words.
yet again, dana white needs to keep his assinine mmouth shut. i doubt lidell is ready to retire, regardless of his last few fights.
by B_Hos on Apr 19, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and with that, we will now see liddell in strikeforce…
by B_Hos on Apr 19, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Several points:
Dana is an arrogant ass. He needs his ass kicked.
Liddell, when he was on top, started a blow habit that has had a terrible effect on his ability, even his mental capacity. He’s done and I hope he doesn’t try to milk any more paydays.
Even if he hadn’t gotten on blow, he still would’ve been beaten by the youthful fighters. 39, in MMA, is old.
by Smarg on Apr 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what are you , chucks urine test bottle ? gfys, if you have proof, bring , if you dont, shut the fuck up. WAR CHUCK!!!!
by daz on Apr 19, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have only been truly watching mma for 3 years but I realize how important that Chuck has been to the sport. My advice to Chuck if he retires, don’t jump into anything too quick and don’t party too much.
Thanks for the great fights
by canadianmma on Apr 19, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s his own damn fault for not having any sort of ground game to fall back on. That’s why Randy can still fight is he is more well rounded. Going to miss watching Chuck fight, but it’s his own fault.
by xxBAxx816 on Apr 19, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A GROUND GAME!!! He got right back up when Shogun took him down, and then he took Shogun down and decided to stand….AGE is the reason Chuck is hanging it up, not because of a ground game. In the past Chuck would have taken that punch and countered with a bomb of his own that would have put Shogun out.
by Chadx23 on Apr 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true true,im gonna miss you iceman,it’s been a pleasure watching you,thanks for all the memories..
by faithn7th on Apr 19, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO ITS BECAUSE HE DIDNT KEEP HIS FUCKING HANDS UP
by Havok on Apr 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
omg….someone FINALLY stated the main reason Chuck lost!! After all this BS talk about shadowboxing and working on his defense, he came out like he always has….hands wide and low. With the reduction in speed, it looked even more horrendous with each overhand right Shogun landed! Hands up, Chuck would still be in that fight.
by Big D on Apr 20, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely. Certainly Chuck is getting on in years—-but the bottome line is he still has great ring smarts..
All this talk of reflexes…is abit off in my opinion.—anyone that tries to “time” a punch gets hit-period. His problem -is the same problem he has had for years but was never exploited….He drops his hands when striking. —opponents were intimidated, did the engaged tentatively and he COUNTERED. he must have been THE most studied fighter and they have his number… and he is getting tagged.
In the past
by Cropster on Apr 21, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck has always had pretty good takedown defense, and he was one of the tougher fighters to keep on the ground. I think his ultimate undoing had a lot to do with his habit of throwing looping punches that left him wide open, people caught on to that and exploited it. As a fan of his, I wish he could have walked away a couple of fights earlier, but at least he can retire now with some dignity. I just really didn’t want to see him end up like Ken Shamrock and not realize that retirment is past due.
by Scott on Apr 19, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I care about these guys” ROFL!
He cares about money, thats it.
by Lester on Apr 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely sad to see Chuck go out like that… he was great.
by ShitleTot.com on Apr 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reflexes are the first to go and chucks reflexes just aren’t there any more, he’s done and it was sad to see.
by nathan on Apr 19, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
chuck looked bad from the start, his timing was way off. too bad to see him go out like that, but he has had an amazing career and was essential to bringing the sport to the mainstream.
by bullsh*t on Apr 19, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah go out like a champ instead of a SHAMrock.
by Ognitinoc on Apr 19, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Age does have something to do with it, but he just developed bad habits. I also think he didn’t really have that great of a chin to begin with. Look at the punch Rampage gave Liddell in their second fight, and it isn’t anywhere as vicious as the the Rashad and Rua punches. If you look at his fights between the first Rampage fight and second, he only fought two people that had more TKO/KO’s than submissions or decisions, and they were Randy Couture and Tito Ortiz(8 TKO’s three from Shamrock.) You combine the bad habits, what I believe to be a suspect chin, and a gameplan that hasn’t changed at all, and you will lose your 4 out of your last 5 fights against top competitors.
If he wants to comeback, he needs to change.
by closb on Apr 19, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man I would love to see randy coutures reaction to watching dana say these things and I mean his true off the record reaction
dana’s basically forcing lidell to retire because as a friend he doesnt want to see him hurt and hes such a good friend he will never let him fight outside the ufc so it looks like lidel will not be able to retire on his own terms like any fighter should be able to
dana would rather pay liddel not to fight like the packers tried to do with farve which is a damn shame you only live once and for dana to force chuck to stop fighting is crazy
chuck lost to an elite desperate fighter at his prime in shogun at an elite level to say liddel doesnt have it anymore is nonsense chuck can still kick ass against great fighters
the fight game is huge part of chucks life and what drives him in life and he loves to fight which means fighting brings him happiness take that away from someone who can still do it should be a crime
by dia mette on Apr 19, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha take a year and a half off and then stage a comeback…
can we say cinderella man hah that would be badass
by UltimateSquint on Apr 19, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I AM SO PLEASED THAT RUA SPANKED LYDDLE .
NOW FOR THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD AND NEW FIGHTERS TO COME AND REPLACE THE OLD…
ADDITIONALY JOHN HACKELMAN LYDDELS MENTOR AND
KEMPO TRAINER LOST HIS GOLDEN GOOSE ..
THIS ALL DOES MY HEART GOOD.
by 2-TUFF4YOU on Apr 19, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m a big chuck fan but his days are past him. Sometimes you just have to accept it. His style of fighting worked when he was faster but now new fighters are way faster than he is and he just can’t fight with that relaxed style. He leaves his chin way too open. either change your style or retire. quite frankly, at his age, retiring is the best option.
by Tony on Apr 20, 2009 2:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
chuck was the best of all times i think he just let his guard down he will be back take the time to get his shit together and he will be back for atleast one or two good fights thanks for all the vicious knockouts
by worm on Apr 20, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’d be kind of cool now that chuck’s out of the ufc if him and tito fought, tito needs a big fight, i doubt it’d happen but i’d watch it
by fighter879 on Apr 20, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
put it like this chuck is still the best,and one day i will be to
by deondre on Apr 22, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heres to Chuck-one of the finest warriors to hit the canvas. If you ever try a comeback, do it here in Tampa-love to come see it live-you are the best.
by DaveandBob on Aug 23, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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