Dana White taken to task on inability to sign Fedor Emelianenko
by MMAmania.com on Apr 16, 2009 8:57 PM EDT
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Carmichael Dave and UFC President Dana White go at it in this interview:
Carmichael Dave: You really need to stop with this Fedor stuff. Jeez …
Dana White: Stop what? He is far from the pound-for-pound best in the world!
Carmichael Dave: Dana, the dude (Emelianenko) has never lost (ed. note: other than a cut stoppage early in his career that was later avenged with a first round TKO)….If you signed him tomorrow, you’d be swinging on those nuts … come on!
Dana White: You have to consistently fight the best in the world in order to get my respect.
Carmichael Dave: He consistently beat three UFC heavyweight champions' asses: Noguiera twice, Andrei Arlovski and Tim Sylvia.
Dana White: Nog was a long time ago. Sylvia wasn’t even close to great and Arlovski has no chin.
Carmichael Dave: The fans want this guy in the UFC more than anything. You’re tired of the "Fedor is great" shit. Why not just bend and make it happen?
Dana White: Oh yeah, it's only up to me if he’s in the UFC? All you dopes need to realize he’s under contract with someone else. It's up to HIM to do a deal, not me. I have been trying, Lorenzo (Fertitta, co-owner of the UFC) has been trying. We’ve been trying ever since we bought Pride.
Carmichael Dave: Yeah, but you refuse to waive that crazy Zuffa contract shit. No Sambo, the champion's clause (a clause in which a fighter’s contract automatically renews for one more fight as long as they hold a UFC belt) etc. True or false? Look, he has one more fight with Affliction I believe. Why not do a one fight deal at least?
Dana White: That’s right. When you’re fighting in the Big Show, there can be no other bullshit. He will get paid an assload of money to fight, and he needs to be available. We can’t be sitting around waiting for him to fight in some Sambo show.
Read the the interview in its entirety right here. It's a doozy.
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I may be retarded but who the hell is Carmichael Dave?
by NM on Apr 16, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He hosts a local radio show in Sacramento. Good guy.
by SHORT_BUS on Apr 16, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That interviewer just got so much of my RESPECT!
by john on Apr 17, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets face it Dana is doing the right thing for his company. Fedor is quality but if he isn’t fighting UFC it only has beens. Lets face it whats the point of being the best there ever was if its not in the best company. It leaves me thinking fedor has no balls . . . NO BALLS!!! GO AUSTRALIA INTUF 10!!!!
by Matt on Apr 17, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree…Dana losses some of my respect when he says and thinks nobody would care if UFC signs Fedor or not…give me a break!
by Robert(1) on Apr 17, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt you are obviously a proud UFC fan who probably has a Dana White poster on your bedroom wall maybe even Dana White pillow cases. You call Tim Sylvia and Arlovski has beens , but name me one heavyweight that you think is capable of taking them out as quickly as Fedor did. The only fighter that you could guess might be possible is Lesner, but with his MMA experince and record all it would be is a guess. I would need at least a few more descent wins out of him to make that assumption. The only fighter he really needs to beat now is Barnett, who would probably sub Lesner in the first round.
by Ade on Apr 17, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Interviewer.. took the word right out of my mouth!!!!!
by PhilQNY on Apr 17, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
‘no problem. you are a moron’
best finish to an interview i ever read
by newfie on Apr 17, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post ADE!!!!
Let me break it down really simple for the UFC nuthuggers:
Dana vision is to have mma go mainstream and be as big as all the other sports. If Dana is truly serious about making mma/uFC a rspectable sport…then its his OBLIGATION to the sport to have the best fighters in the world all under 1 roof. In all the other mainstream sports…the greatest players worldwide all compete in the same organization. YOU dont see NBA stars like LeBron or Kobe playing ball in Italy. Ovechkin isnt playing Hockey in Russia.
Has Dana tried to sign Fedor? Yes…but he hasnt tried hard enough. Just listen to the interview. He was asked if at the next Fedor negotiations, would Dana be willing to bend on some of the points that made the UFC unattractive to Fedor at the last negotiations? Dana said NO! and brought up Sambo again! Fedor doesnt even really train for Sambo. Its 1 weekend per Year….I dont think it should be Dana’s business what Fedor does in other sports. Dana talks about the uFC being a mainstream sport….so how does he justify trying to OWN fighters instead of employing them? I dont recall the NFL telling players like Deon Sanders or Bo Jackson that they CANT play Baseball. Why? Because its non of their damn business and they have no right to tell their employees how to live their lives. Only thing that Dana should be negotiating with Fedor about is MONEY and the championship clause in the fighters contracts. Dana has NO RIGHT to talk to Fedor about anything else! Dana brought up Sambo, complaining that he needs his fighters to be available to fight….what a bunch of crap! Dana can sideline its Champions for 6 months at a time so that they can coach on his silly/pathetic reality show….but he is worried about the 1 weekend per year that Fedor wont be available due to his Sambo obligations? what a bunch of CRap!
Dana is so petrified that Fedor will beat his Champions and then run off into the sunset. Even if thats the case, who the F cares? Dana is so worried that fans will become aware of how good Fedor is if he lets Fedor fight in the UFC and leaves…well GUess what Dana? THe cat is out of the bag! He cant claim the same crap about Fedor being unknown in America anymore! That argument was valid 2 years ago….but by now, ALL MMA fans are aware of Fedor. Affliction was HUGE for Fedor. We all bashed their lack of promotion but I think they did an excellent job of introducing King Fedor to the casual American mma fans. By now, EVERONE knows that he is the best Heavyweight in the world. Him fighting in the UFC, beating a UFC champ and leaving wont do any harm! MOstr fans all believe he is the best already and bash Dana for him not being in the UFC. Say Fedor only fights once in the UFC and wins, then leaves….It will be the same exact situation as today….THe best Heavyweight in the world is NOT in the UFC. Whats the difference. I think fans would be appreciative of Dana for bringing Fedor to the UFC even if its just for one big mega fight. So what if THe UFC champ gets beaten by Fedor and Fedor leaves? Right now, everyone knows Fedor is better then both of the UFC hw champions put together! UFC should actually book Fedor for a handicap match: Fedor vs. Mir + Brock! Guess what? Fedor would probably still win. lol
Where Dana messed up was not forking over the money to keep Arlovski in the uFC. Arlovski is a HOUSEHOLD name in America…by not re-signing the pitbull….Dana handed Affliction the Perfect Victim for Fedor to build his name off of in America and thats exactly what has happened!….same goes with tim Sylvia. Tim Sylvia has NO FANS, but everyone acknowledges him as a tough guy…..Fedor just DEMOLISHED HIM!!!
Superstars get Superstar treatment. Fedor is probably one of the top 5 richest fighters in mma, and is known to be the best HW on the planet. He is the only top fighter that can become so big even in America, without ever stepping foot in a UFC Octagon. Fedor doesnt need the UFC at all….and Dana is not used to dealing with that kind of a situation. Dana needs to do whats best for the fans and the sport. Get Fedor in the Octagon by any means neccessary. I dont care if its for 1 fight or 20…just get him over here!
Worst case scenario for Dana is that they sign Fedor for 1 fight, he beats a UFC champion, and leaves the UFC. HOw could that possibly hurt the UFC? UFC would make zillions off of a mega fight between Brock vs. Fedor….and even if Fedor embarrasses Brock, does Dana think it will be the end of the UFC’s stanglehold on its competition. Of Course not. No company is going to dethrone the uFC,,,,so how could Fedor fighting in the UFC for 1 fight be a bad thing?
by john on Apr 17, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, Dana is a brilliant promoter. What draws more attention: Trashing Fedor or admitting he’s great? And, which is more likely to have the fans calling for Fedor to join the UFC? Maybe he thinks that by saying “To be the best you have to fight the best and the best are in the UFC” that will make Fedor’s managers more open to joing the UFC.
I don’t know, but I just have to think this a premeditated move by Dana and not what he really thinks.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Apr 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve determined that you have to be completely full of crap to do what Dana White does. I respect Dana’s ability to manage and promote a monster promotion, but he has no objectivity about anything outside the UFC. Everyone knows that Fedor, GSP and Silva are the best fighters on the planet, but Dana is either unable or unwilling to give Fedor his props.
Dana’s pride and his loyalty to his business make an admission that Fedor is one of the top three P4P fighters an impossibility.
by RealDrew on Apr 17, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose he has no obligation to admit Fedor is a top P4P. His job is to promote his company. I don’t find that strange. The only thing that would be strange to me is if Dana really thinks Fedor sucks.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Apr 17, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What we can’t forget is Fedor does not need to come to the UFC for money, fame, etc. He already has that so the probability of him ever coming to the UFC is remote. He enjoys doing other things and will not give up the right to do them as the totalitarian UFC requires. They UFC can’t budge either or it will affect them with their stable of fighters.
When Fedor’s contract expires, the issue to getting him signed will be something else… not the UFC’s problem of course, it will be Fedor again, asking for ridiculous amounts of money or something…. craziness for an “over the hill fighter past his prime,” or something similar will roll off Dana’s tongue.
Dana even slagged his former HW champions who he once proclaimed to be the best. He is building the future of the HW division on Brock.
Take this for what it is and will only ever be…. talk. After all it’s nothing personal, only business.
by DJ on Apr 17, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i was wondering about the same thing. Who TF?!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Apr 16, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I get tired of, is people saying that Fedor is beating UFC champs. Correction. They are former UFC champs and they are former for a reason. Mark Coleman lost that status YEARS ago and has most recently lost to a gassed 205er. Arlovski lost his belt to Tim Sylvia. Both of these fighters have recently lost to Fedor. However, Randy and Nog both took out Tim Sylvia. These two just lost to the interim and the current champs Frank Mir and Brock Lesnar. If you really want to throw down the MMA math then be my guest because even that sort of logic did make sense, it would currently count against proving Fedors legitamacy. (He has never fought Brock or Mir so the proof remains to be seen according to the logic of MMA math) The UFC is clearly the biggest MMA company. No one is questioning that. Now whether the UFCs HEAVY WEIGHT division is the best remains to be seen. (every other division holds the best fighters for the respective weight classes IMO) But because the UFC is the biggest stage and because the UFC holds challenges for Fedor I come to one conclusion. Until Fedor signs with the UFC and cleans out the division, I don’t see a sealed legacy.
(I know that Frank beat a Nog that was recovering from a staph infection and I am well aware that Randy is aging and could have had ring rust, but this logic would go hand in hand with the logic that Fedor beating FORMER UFC champions has anything to do with the current UFC heavyweight division.)
Don’t get me wrong. I think Fedor is a GREAT fighter and I think it is very likely that he could clean on the UFC heavyweight division. But I also thought Shogun and Cro-Cop were going to do some big things too so until it happens, I’m not convinced.
by RyanHobbs on Apr 17, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because even if that sort of logic made sense
by RyanHobbs on Apr 17, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, Fedor tooled Big Nog in his prime twice. Nog is playing a role in the UFC HW division right now. Legacy is already sealed, sorry.
by Diceman on Apr 17, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diceman Cro Cop also took Fedor to three rounds so what’s that say?
by Puck Head on Apr 17, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Fedors legacy is currently unsealed.
by RyanHobbs on Apr 17, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 rounds without winning 1 of those rounds….Doesnt say much…..
by Venzia on Apr 17, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because Mirko was in his prime then, and like Wandy, has fallen off greatly due to past wars. If he didn’t win a round how did he win the fight? You guys use some dumb logic, and you didn’t even address the statements I made. Pathetic
by Diceman on Apr 18, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way guys, of course Dana is going to say this, I don’t know why we debate it. Fedor isn’t in the UFC, hence he’s not the best, the second he signs, he will be! Anderson silva is #1 and as much as it pains me to say it, GSP may be #2! The sherdog P4P ranking is pretty accurate!
by kevin on Apr 17, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fedor is the best heavyweight, but he is not the top p4p fighter! i do agree with sherdogs top 5 but not the order. a.silva is the best p4p and GSP is a close second. torres should be in third though, he has better skills and an even better record (37-1, only loss by decision) then fedor, then fedor, then BJ. sherdog doesn’t have Faber or Machida on their list and forrest shouldn’t be in the top ten. i don’t think that dana thinks that fedor isn’t the best because he isn’t in the ufc, he just says it so that fedor will want to go to the ufc. don’t blame dana for not signing fedor because fedor wants to fight outside of the company. if he got hurt fighting sambo or something where would that leave the ufc (especially if he did have the belt)?
by bullsh*t on Apr 17, 2009 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People get hurt in training more than they do fighting for the most part so that argument is stupid about competing in Sambo. For fucks sake it only takes him 2 mins to beat everyone in the whole competition anyway!
by Ca$z on Apr 17, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
people get hurt in competition all of the time, look at all of the suspensions after events due to injury (it doesn’t have to be a major injury to put a fighter out of competition for months). besides that, if he loses a fight somewhere else it would look bad for the ufc to have a champion that lost fighting in another organization. not to mention that while he is fighting elsewhere it would put his ufc fights on hold.
by bullsh*t on Apr 17, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana White cannot admit the truth. Its bad business for him to do so.
Fedor and the UFC don’t really need each other. Each side has had a ton of success without the other. Its only natural that neither side will “give up” anything when it comes to negotiations.
Truth.
by OJR on Apr 17, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is the BEST pound for pound fighter. here’s my logic, and it’s a fight that could actually happen. Anderson Silva has easily made to move to 205 in the past. Fedor, at 6’ 230, is by far the smallest HW in mma,in fact, many LHW’s are actually bigger than fedor,i.e. Forrest, Rampage, tito, n chuck goes 225-230. with a little dieting and toning up,along with a weight cut, fedor could easily make 205. and if Fedor and The spider met up at 205, i think it’s a know brainer what Fedor would do to Anderson. he wouldn’t dominate him, it may even take him a round or 2 to figure spider out, but fedor would figure something out like he always does and win the fight with some sort of stoppage, TKO, KO, or sub.
by deuce 4 on Apr 17, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he played a different tune while Arlovski was the UFC champ.. why is this dude (Dana) even doing interviews? you’re not the poster boy, get it!
by RoB on Apr 16, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you’re the best if you’re under ufc contract and the worst if you’re not, this isn’t a new attitude by dana it’s how he’s always been with every fighter. and he’s doing interviews because they are asking him to and because he knows it gets his company more media attention. why should he turn down the interview?
by jj on Apr 16, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he constantly makes himself sound like a moron in interviews.. they are starting to make fun of him these days! whatever Ducks vs Sharks in the Sharks tank is a must see, great game!
by RoB on Apr 16, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean it gets him more attention..
by RoB on Apr 16, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you the real rob, who weighed in naked? Hoho!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Apr 16, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
July 11, fedor/monson********
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I thought Dana was being stupid with his comments, if this fight news is true, I agree with him…why would Barnett not be the guy Fedor fights next?
by kevin on Apr 17, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I had heard things here and there about Fedor POSSIBLY fighting Barnett next and they MAY fight this summer; I started to get the feeling they might not even fight! No one wants to see Fedor fight more tools! If he’s too scared to step into the Octagon, the least he can do is fight the best available outside of it. And I don’t want to hear any excuses about how it’s his management that makes all these decisions for him etc. He’s a grown man that needs to start taking responsibility for his fading legacy and growing avoidance of the UFC. Does he REALLY not sign with the UFC because he wants to fight Sambo once a year??? That’s idiotic.
by RedDog on Apr 17, 2009 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where the hell,did you see that?Masseuse Atencio said,that it was not a possibility to go against UFC 100.
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 17, 2009 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
telling Fedor he can’t fight sambo would be like the LA galaxy telling david beckham he couldn’t play for England in the world cup. believe it or not some people do have this rare value called “national pride”. it’s what British S.A.S and U.S. Delta Force operators have that allows them to risk all for their homeland. Fedor is no soldier, so he represents his homeland the only way he knows how, by competing in its national sport. i wouldn’t give that up either, i wouldn’t sell out for money or fame. i agree with what Fedor’s doing and even if i didn’t agree, i would still understand where he’s coming from on the issue.
by deuce 4 on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly! great post.. If signing a contract with the UFC means giving up your life and freedom than it’s not worth it!
by RoB on Apr 17, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, you don’t see NBA forbidding players to play for their national teams.
by Gleb on Apr 17, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually you do. There were a lot of injuries at the worlds last year.
by MM_Eh on Apr 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, if you didn’t have teams telling guys not to play, the U.S. would win every time. NBA and NFL teams tell guys they can’t ski or in some cases play pick up games. some of you guys are extremely naive!
by kevin on Apr 17, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are clubs that tries to stop the player from playing for their national team, but they can’t force a player not to play for the national team..
by RoB on Apr 17, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s so prevelant that guys are banned from the playing on their national teams by the NBA that Lebron James, Kobe Bryant and a lot of others weren’t there so the USA didn’t win gold this past olympics…wait…what? All those guys did play and so did lots of other players from the NBA on their national teams? And the USA DID win the gold medal?
Here’s the thing Kevin, the NBA would NEVER tell the players they couldn’t play for their national teams. One reason is because it’s bad for the game. It’s actually bad business. It hurts the expansion of the game of basketball, and therefore hurts the NBA’s growth and expansion as well. I could see the UFC saying, “No Fedor, you can’t basejump.” But you shouldn’t forbid him from doing a sport for his nation, no major sports leagues do that. I think you’re the one being naive on this Kev. Specific teams can put “no motorcycle clauses” in players contracts, but the league doesn’t have anything to do with that.
by Diceman on Apr 18, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha =) no, i’m not!.. I play around in a lower weight class
by RoB on Apr 17, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he doesn’t want to hear about it so much he should stop trying to trash Fedor. I think a lot of reporters just want to get a rise out of him to get some extra hits
by quidnunc on Apr 16, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish he would sign with UFC. Just to shut all the Fedor nuthuggers up.
by Iagoof22 on Apr 16, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dont think there is any real challenge for fedor in the ufc heavyweight division, brock is too green, carwins non existent head movement would be a speed bag, nog – no need for a third, couture, maybe would have been exciting to see after the gonzaga win, who cares now, as for gabe, the man can never keep momentum! i loved this interview, im not the biggest fedor fan, but im also not that ignornant to ignore the mans greatness, fedor would kill in the ufc
by jslim on Apr 16, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be so sure jslim. AA hit him and had him moving backwards. Brock and Corwin hit MUCH harder. Do not forget, any fight with eather of these guys is atleast a year away. If Brock stays on the same path he is on, I don’t think any one in the world can beat him in a year.
by Iagoof22 on Apr 16, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hitting hard doesn’t mean much if you can’t box.. Andrei Arlovski is probably the best HW boxer in MMA and that was why he had Fedor backing up..
by RoB on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock and Carwin are WAAAY slower… Fedor greatest strength is his speed too.
by ekc on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Kimbo can probably hit harder than AA but that doesn’t mean he would be able to tool Fedor.
by Diceman on Apr 16, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are the same people that said Randy would “tool” Brock. Bring on Fedor, someone has to bring him and all of you back to earth. You act like Fedor is the best thing sence sliced bread.
by Iagoof22 on Apr 16, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, first, I never thought an over-the-hill, nearly 50 year old fighter coming off a lay-off that was over a year long could beat someone that weighs 60 pounds more than him. Actually Randy did better than I expected. Randy actually has nothing to do with this so I don’t know where you’re coming from. I don’t think Fedor is the best thing since sliced bread, just the best fighter out there(and certainly the best HW fighter, and Brock beating Fedor at this point seems feasable only to Dana dick riders). I love A. Silva, he’s actually my favorite fighter, but I don’t think that he’s the best fighter in the world. You are a goof.
by Diceman on Apr 16, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo can hit harder than AA are you serious? Kimbo isn’t even top 100 hardest hitting heavyweights he has never even come close to one punch knocking someone out. AA has knocked out a ton of people. Kimbo has no skill his power was completely blown out of proportion he knocked out a bunch of bums is all and even those guys you didnt see taking naps like the guys AA has put to sleep.
by GSP4Prez on Apr 16, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i knew that Brock would win.. and Dana knew it too, they would never have given Brock the title shot if they didn’t think he was going to win!..
you act like Brock and Carwin are god’s gift to earth..
Fedor would be able to throw about 4-5 punches and knock them out before they even move!
by RoB on Apr 16, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is way too skilled, and he has dealt with size before..
by RoB on Apr 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best thing since sliced bread? How many REAL fights has Lesnar had? Sure, the guy’s a beast, but look what happened once already to Mir, and will surely happen again. He ran into someone with some ground skills and got submitted. I wouldn’t even give Lesnar the “lucky punch” chance to win against Fedor.
by greggo on Apr 16, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen! If Fedor’s such a badass,Sign with the UFC. I really see no reason he hasn’t other than he’s greedy
by broncos12405@yahoo.com on Apr 16, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be the other way round. Fedor would shut up all the haters and non-believers in my opinion….but chances are we’ll all never find out so I say its a pointless and irritating conversation to have until he actually looks like he is going to sign.
All this talk of bringing over all of the Red Devil team and building stadiums is bullshit as far as I can tell or really old negotiations from back in the day. I don’t see M1 / Affliction doing any of these things yet he fights for them. Dana is full of shit when he wants to be and his stubborness has never been more apparent than when Fedor is discussed.
We get it Dana you don’t like him and you wish he would go away but the fact is he won’t any time soon and he probably won’t stop kicking ass either. So passing up the chance to bring in someone who a big proportion of fans that are truly aware of Fedor’s greatness believe to be the pound for pound king shouldn’t be decided by you, it should be decided by the fans and if thats what they want then you should give it to them by any means.
All hail King Fedor!!
by Ca$z on Apr 16, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with Iagoof22.
Did you guy notice that Dave guy sounds a lot like John.
by Natas on Apr 16, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a joke. This carmichael clown has no clue about the business side and is just some fan boy who wants the ufc to co promote with the WWF next… lol, what a tool you guys are!
by Chip Dizzle on Apr 16, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you here, even though Dana went off a lil too much in this interview, Dana is right for no one fight deals or co promoting its dumb business and in no ways really benefits the UFC
by Robby on Apr 16, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed chip, carmicheal is just speaking on behalf of mma fans in general and not thinking about the business side of things. when your running a huge multi-million dollar company you cant over spend on one fighter and listen to his every demand. you have to make sign a contract you both agree on. this is why fedor and the ufc will probably never work hand and hand with each other. but if i had danas job id sign fedor and let him fight sambo, trying to make the schedules go hand-and-hand
by Jared on Apr 16, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be awesome if they did sit down and someone from the media was there..its win win for the fans,
If Fedor and his management go in there and ask for everything they supposedly did the last time then if Dana tells him to F off we can’t complain
If Fedor goes in there and doesn’t act for anything unreasonable its going to be hard with someone from the media there for him not to be signed
by Robby on Apr 16, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he asked very reasonable questions. And Dana White sounded like a moron saying some ignorant stuff like, “I’ve done deals with thousands of guys more popular than him”, as if there are even a hundred popular UFC fighters. And “Guys a billion times more popular”, what a joke.
by Diceman on Apr 16, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That availability argument is such BS and Dana knows it. How often do UFC champions fight these days anyway? Oh yeah, twice a year!
Give me a break.
by Jono on Apr 16, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In the end Dana wins tho , GSP and A. Silva stock is rising much higher then his has over the last couple of years cause they constantly fight and beat the best. While Fedor just walks around in ugly sweaters while ringing the NASDAQ bell with fat headed Tito.
by Dayzah on Apr 16, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Fedor gives a damn about fighters fighting at MW and WW… what does that have to do with anything? oh p4p, yeah big deal..
when you are the biggest and richest org there is, then there’s no excuses..
by RoB on Apr 16, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how does Dana lose? He dont care , at all ..
Only ppl that lose is Fedro’s legacy and the fans that want him in the UFC …
I could care less about Fedor or where he fights , but if he aint fighting the best then guess what , hes not the best ..
Please explain how by Fedor not being in the UFC hurts Dana? They seem too be one of the few companies right now that are recession proof , not only that but they are constantly breaking gate/ppv records with UFC 91 , 92 and 94 … And im pretty sure UFC 100 will break all 3 of those ..
Fedor will headline yet another shitty Affliction event that will only lose them money ..
And im pretty sure I didnt say Fedor wanted too fight at mw or ww ( wait he did fight Matt Lindland who is a mw but anywho ) , but the 2 fighters I mentioned will still be around beating the best while Fedor farms goats in Russia cause nobody will give in too his retarded demands.
by Dayzah on Apr 17, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait up, so Arlovski and Barnett aren’t the best?.. fact is that the best HW’s are outside of the UFC
by RoB on Apr 17, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll give you AA…but Barnett is questionable.
by MM_Eh on Apr 17, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s still one of the best, so to say that competition outside of the UFC doesn’t exist is just foolish..
by RoB on Apr 17, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interviewer sounds like he’s working for a high school paper.
by battery on Apr 16, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, we’ve seen an incredible amount of venom poured on Fedor from trailer kids across America, TUFers, and beer-guzzling hillbillies on Sherdog, home of the squirrels, and now the question arises — why do these keyboard warriors hate on Fedor, the greatest HW in MMA history and THE GOAT ?
I am not here to debate subjective concepts like rankings and ethereal descriptions such as ‘unranked’ fighters, ‘top 10′, dumb UFC pricks !
Any one with some brainpower must realize rankings in MMA is simply opinion.
It is not definitive, real, and certainly has no impact on fights. Your opinion is as good as anyone’s else, because it is OPINION.
Sherdog, MMA Weekly, and every MMA fan can have their own ‘top ten lists’ and each one’s list would arguably be as valid as the next, and irrelevant to ‘who is the better fighter’, or who is the ‘top p4p fighter.’
On any given night in any MMA fight, there is always a chance for either fighter to win.
Styles can make fights, fights can be unpredictable, lucky shots can land, accidents happen.
With that said, I believe Fedor is the top HW fighter in the world based on performace, adaptability, technique, character, and heart.
No other fighter in my opinion has displayed these qualities to the degree Fedor has and attained a record he has.
Whether you disagree with my opinion is fine, as it should have no correlation to the hate Fedor receives by cock-guzzling TUFers.
I noticed this about Fedor haters- almost exclusively, Fedor haters are more pro-UFC and more of an org and Dana White supporter than other fans.
Reasons for hating Fedor mostly revolve around these people believing Fedor is ‘ducking’ UFC fighters, and/or dispute his ‘rank’, as result of pro-PRIDE fans who kept posting ‘Fedor is number 1′ for years.
The majority of these haters are clearly brainwashed by what Dana White says — as is evident by these haters saying, word for word on numerous occasions, the exact same words used by Dana White.
You have others who bash Fedor based on imaginary ‘rankings’, some of these people may really believe there is such a thing as a holy rankings, some kind of Ten Commandments.
In both cases, the hate is childish, selfish, and out of touch with reality.
I can only assume that if I had to see these bashers in person they would be likely 14-28, American, less tolerant of foreign cultures and society, white, rabidly pro-UFC and anti-everything else not American ( many of these bashers have references of ‘American over all’, etc.), and racist and xenophobic to a degree.
These people are selfish and lack a capacity for independant-thinking, and critically, ‘out of the box’ thinking.
They are only capable of thinking in narrow and limited scope of views, influenced by and brainwashed by Dana’s childish rantings and lies and their own lack of reason.
In my opinion, these people are extremely sick. Hate and ignorance together prove a laughable and ugly mixture.
In Fedor, here is a man, so humble, he looks at the floor when facing opponents.
A man who has NEVER trash-talked, a la Tim Sylvia , Phil Baroni, etc who has shown the utmost respect and dignity to fighters and fans. ( You are not a fan if you scream about rankings and imagine it is his duty to fight who you think he should fight.)
In a perfect world, hating such a person should be a crime, how can such a humble and good man, who happens to be the world’s best HW MMA fighter, be treated like a criminal and coward by these faceless keyboard warriors, these sick sick people who hate and do not reason.
If you don’t think he’s the best fine, hate the people who call him the best — when you go over that, and actually hate Fedor the man — who has never called himself the #1 fighter — you show misplace rage, and childish rantings.
My assumption, based on an analysis of these Fedor-haters, stands — an incredibly materialistic, selfish, insensitive, brainwashed, racist/xenophobic mix that is utterly disgusting when the hate is on a humble man.
These same people admire and respect fighters who gloat and brag …
Shame on you losers.
by GORANDY on Apr 16, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shut the F%ck Up! all im gonna say to you.
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
charr552 — lol, I noticed you kept your comment a bit shorter than GORANDY’s comment. GORANDY, let me take a line from your book and pose a question:
“No other fighter in my opinion has displayed these qualities to the degree Fedor has and attained a record he has.” What about Miguel Torres (37-1)?
by RedDog on Apr 17, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to prove his point, charr552.
p.s. GORANDY, I completely agree.
by Gleb on Apr 17, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i dont think he had to write that much. bud on forums people like to read smart comments that arent that long. if your going to write something like that just as a reply to an article maybe you should think of writing your own articles
by Jared on Apr 16, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh no i could careless that he wrote that long of an article. the mere fact that he bashed America. That is what pissed me off. Good for him if he wants to write something that long, but bashing readers and ppl who have their own opinions is not necessary in the least bit.Nor anti-american hates remarks. HA to think i always read blogs and shit on youtube and other sites and think what losers, who gets into arguments on the web and yet here i am.
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May have missed it, but I don’t see anything anti-American in GORANDY’s post charr. And for the most part I agree with him. Fedor is a true champion by any normal person’s standards. You may not think he’s the best fighter in the world, but that’s no reason to hate a humble man.
by Diceman on Apr 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree with his MMA remarks. Fedor no matter what organization he is involved in will be considered a top fighter and respectfully so. His humility though im unsure of, but that is only speculation reagarding his demands of a stadium in russia and his team to have guaranteed fights in the UFC. And with the anti-american remarks. I truly do not wish to continue with this, but if i must…
“So, we’ve seen an incredible amount of venom poured on Fedor from trailer kids across America, TUFers, and beer-guzzling hillbillies on Sherdog, home of the squirrels”
“I can only assume that if I had to see these bashers in person they would be likely 14-28, American, less tolerant of foreign cultures and society, white, rabidly pro-UFC and anti-everything else not American ( many of these bashers have references of ‘American over all’, etc.), and racist and xenophobic to a degree.
These people are selfish and lack a capacity for independant-thinking, and critically, ‘out of the box’ thinking."
“My assumption, based on an analysis of these Fedor-haters, stands — an incredibly materialistic, selfish, insensitive, brainwashed, racist/xenophobic mix that is utterly disgusting when the hate is on a humble man.”
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read it better there is a whole paragraph dissing americans!!
by NM on Apr 16, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GORANDY is a closeted Frenchie; porbably hiding a closet with some cheese and a bottle of wine.
by dandeman on Apr 17, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pro-UFC but I love Fedor. I think not to consider Fedor a top pound-for-pounder is ridiculous. I disagree with Dana. I like Dana more than I hate him, but he’s wrong.
by Johnny Farnham on Apr 16, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEAR HEAR……ITS MMA NOT UFC BUT SOME PEOPLE DON’T GET THAT……FEDOR IS IN THE TOP 1% WITH THE LIKES OF MIGUEL TORRES AND TO SAY HE ISNT SHOWS TRUE MMA IGNORANCE. HE COULD BEAT KING KONG BUT UNTIL HE SIGNS WITH THE UFC DANA AND HS SHEEP WILL MAKE AN EXCUSE WHY IT WAS ILLEGITIMATE…….SOME DAY HE MAY LOSE BUT TRUE MMA FANS WILL ALWAYS RESPECT THE JORDAN OF MMA
by Venzia on Apr 16, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Jordan of MMA is Anderson. same color too[though I aint racist, just to straighten thing out]
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Apr 17, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson is extreme and I do respect him but Fedor hasn’t lost a ROUND in YEARS, let alone a fight. Anderson’s record cant touch Fedors. Nor GSP or BJ’s. Only Miguels compares. And for Dana to say you have to fight the best…..Leites!!! Are you kidding me?He won his last fight by getting his a## beat. Far from top competition…..But, Anything can happen…….Again Fedor may lose sometime but noone has shown such dominance in MMA…..A la Jordan……Or Woods if you prefer…..
by Venzia on Apr 17, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You make some very good points and may be very true for a lot of Fedor haters but some fans dislike certain fighters for all sorts of reasons, some of which are very trivial. It just tends to be when someone gets to a point where they feel they are going to pick a side (i.e pro ufc or pro pride or pro/anti fedor) and then try to stick to their guns and defend their belief even when the facts are against them.
There are a few regulars on here on this blog but while I admit I am a Fedor-hugger for lack of a better description I like him for a lot of the other factors that he displays as well as his truly dominant ringmanship, like his humble character and respect for his opponents that sets him apart from the others. If anyone was ever a good role model for this sport its Fedor and the UFC would gain a lot of credibility for themselves and the sport by having him on board.
Its just a shame Dana White is such a stubborn, arrogant prick!!
by Ca$z on Apr 16, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow GORANDY, That was a great waste of your time. You mean I am all those things because I like Broke over Fedor? I think you need another beer. Why does he not sign and be without question the best.
by Iagoof22 on Apr 16, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a fan of the UFC a big fan, and a fan of Dana White, most of the people who hate Dana tend to be EX-priders or iconoclastic in general.
What he said about Sylvia and especially Arlovski is BS and he knows it.
I dont think Fedor is top p4p (2or3rd tho) but, Fedor is the best HW there’s no debating that.
It is as much up to Fedor as it is up to Dana, from a business perspective bringing in Fedor for one fight, spending untold thousands/millions showcasing him and hyping him up for the whole world to see and know his name, to then have him leave and bring all that hype to a Affliction or Dream or even Strikeforce is not worth it for them.
I wouldn’t do it in Dana’s place either, they have to do whats smart for the UFC not just what the fans want to see.
He’s not your guys’s fuckign wish granter he’s here to promote and insure the longevity of the UFC.
by ShaiZ on Apr 16, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shame on me for reading your post. I love how you managed to insult everyone with infantile name-calling all the while trying to hold some higher ground.
by Leno on Apr 16, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because people don’t consider Fedor to be number 1, doesn’t mean that they hate the man. That is like me assuming that you hate Anderson Silva because you place Fedor above him. My complaint about Fedor is that he has made ridiculous demands in order to sign an exclusive contract with the UFC. I wish he would just give the fans what they want and further cement his legacy by going to the UFC and cleaning out the division. If he does that, then no questions asked. He will be ranked number 1 p4p in my book. If fedor signed with the UFC, it would open the door to several other heavyweight signings. Can you imagine? If the UFC heavyweight division was pumped with Overeem, Fedor, Arlovski, Sylvia, Monson, Barnett, and even Gilbert Yvel would be exciting to see face Kongo. Then we get guys like Kimbo and Bobby Lashely on TUF. They aren’t GREAT fighters by any means. They are beginners and they bring a lot of star power. The UFC heavyweight division could get really exiciting.
by RyanHobbs on Apr 17, 2009 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“This rant was brought to you by BOXES, the makers of soapboxes used worldwide.”
by DJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carmichael is a tool. Kept his mouth shut after Dana stated the demands of the Russian God Fedor about his team and stadium. Whethere or not there is an entire truth to remains to be seen. but in my opinion fedor and aoki can stay in japan or wherever the (expletive deleted) they want to.
UFC in PHILY!!
HK is god!
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
harry kalas. unrelated, but still i put UFC in philly i figured what the hell
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its safe to say building stadiums in russia and signing the whole Red Devil fight team is bullshit. I dont see Affliction doing any of that shit do you??
by Ca$z on Apr 16, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Affliction does not have the capability to do either of the two.
The UFC does.
They know this.
by JaSwin420 on Apr 17, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is bullshit! Another example of Dana running his mouth.
by attakdog on Apr 17, 2009 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this was the concession Fedor wanted if they wanted him to fight in UFC exclusively? lol
by Big D on Apr 17, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charr, you must think you’re really smart. Do you see Affliction building a stadium in Russia? I didn’t think so, I am from Russia and there are plenty of stadiums there already (in Moscow there are 4 huge soccer stadiums alone, not to mention arenas for other sports). Concerning his team, I doubt that Fedor’s management asked for the whole club to have UFC contract, that’s just ridiculous, after all he is not trying to sign with the Yankees. But UFC could include some of them on the Ultimate Fighter with Fedor as their coach (it would provide a good break for annoying rednecks on that show).
The biggest thing to me, is allowing him to participate in sambo tournaments. As a fighter it is really important to him and it’s not like it will make him miss fights, not to mention there is no set schedule in UFC.
by Gleb on Apr 17, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yea almost forgot.. can someone tell me what the deal is with the hammer vs. ill have two belts in the UFC. its still on 101 here, but i heard they’re moving the fight
to portland
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing Dana White says about fighters can be taken seriously the man has an agenda and cannot be unbiased about fighters, matches, or anything else for that matter.
He’s going to do what’s in his best interest to say and do what’s best for his bank account.
So all his fans out there who think he’s right about anything he has to say about any fighter or fight outside his promotion are people who’ll just agree with virtually anything the guy does right or wrong.
by Antisocial on Apr 16, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, you know who the scowling man is above, with his fake "mean" look and pedophile smile – Dana White, President of the UFC, former aerobics instructor, high school drop-out , shit-talker, and self-proclaimed Grand Poombah and Holy Savior of MMA and Don King wannabe.
Personally, judging by the hellish expression on his face , the guy probably hates his own reflection off the camera as much as he hates everyone else.
Oh, this is a back in the day younger and less follicle-challenged Dana, prior to adopteding his current Dr.Evil look.
I digress – I’ve been ranting off-topic, as I tend to do when I talk about Dana.
So Dana hooks up with high-school friend and casino and gambling magnate Lorenzo Fertitta, and convinces him to buy the ailing UFC for a few million in chump change from Bob Meyrowitz, and goes about losing money and bitching ….. until … a seminal moment occurred that was to change everything.
Spike TV convinced Dana to give the green light to The Ultimate Fighter, a reality-tv mma series modeled on the Contender ..
Dana thought the idea was crap and a waste of time …… what happened was the complete opposite – it turned out to be a resounding success, and completely changed the UFC from an underground scorned organization to marginal mainstream acceptance, a large fan base from the 15-25 white, lower middle class and trailer trash demographic, and exploding PPV numbers and revenue.
So much for Dana being a "great businessman" when TUF would have never been born and the UFC never attained it’s present success had Dana not been pushed by Spike to produce the show.
So were spawned the TUFers and UFC lemmings, who needed guidance and a leader and sweaty balls to hug – Dana saw that need,decided to model himself on Don King , took acting lessons , watched Rocky re-runs and constantly practiced talking dirty to his pet poodle, and invested in a RDF generator.
These lemmings and cult members would do anything for their master Dana … onward TUFer soldier !
The RDF (reality distortion field), a la Steve Jobs and the Mac, was activated from Zuffa HQ and subliminally dissipated through UFC PPVs to brainwash poor white kids in trailers.
Dana has been riding the coattails and surfing the waves ever since, "Only in America" playing in his delirious head non-stop, drums banging.
The retarded, xenophobic, racist, and low-IQ TUfers and UFC lemmings happily gyrate to the beats of Dana’s drums in writhing ecstasy, for to them, verily, Dana is their hero, prophet, idol, leader, god, and butt-buddy simultaneously.
TUFers/UFC squirrels are easily spotted and identified – they defend Dana White, the UFC, and UFC fighters with passionate, irrational, and rabid zeal ; defend Dana over UFC fighters, think MMA is "Ultimate Fighting", drink beer in red cups, boo fighters, chant "USA,USA,USA" and think all non-UFC fighters are "juicing", a "can", or a "freakshow", and hail from trailer communities in Texas, Arizona, and Shit Creek, Kentucky.
TUFers/UFC lemmings consider it an honor to lick Dana’s nutsack and would gladly take it up the starfish for their leader for bragging rights.
The UFC zombies have conquered and subverted Sherdog making it a petting-zoo – the poster boy and perfect example of the UFC/TUF reject is Sherdogger Aniketos, aka Lilduvessa, a hideous creature and legendary troll and UFC lackey who spearheaded the successful invasion and occupation of the Sherdog zoo-forums.
Here he is in all his splendid glory ( too many knocks falling down the Apple tree eh ?) -
These sad creatures regurgitate and spout Dana’s verbal diarrhea, and are forever at war with the former elites, proud and free PRIDE nuthuggers, a dying and resilent breed who battle valiantly against the monstrous UFC beasts.
Dana is a wily dumb-ass prick, but compared to his followers Dana is a MIT uber-nerd, as TUFers are so stupid, brainwashed, and brain-dead, arguing with one can drop your IQ 20 points.
So the TUFers reproduced asexually, and so many hung onto Dana’s small nuts he had to upgrade to bigger nuts so his TUF noobs could clutch his nuts in safety without fear of falling …..
by GORANDY on Apr 16, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But the scowling guy in the photo is not Dana.
by Johnny Farnham on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on he makes good points. What do you have to offer to the discussion?
by Bryce on Apr 16, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read my remark to his novel above. Its not the remarks regarding Fedor. I agree with his stance that Fedor is one of the best. Its the mere fact of what i stated above. HIs anti-american hate talk gets under my skin.
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But his comments are not anti-american, he is not saying “America sucks”, he is pointing out true but painful facts about certain group of MMA audience.
by Gleb on Apr 17, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting posts, even though I like Dana and the UFC is my favourite MMA promotion I can see your point of view. I like Dana and I think without him, there wouldn’t be any MMA as both Pride and the UFC would be dead, but he still came off as a stubborn idiot in this interview and good on Carmichael for standing up for Fedor. I’m not even a Fedor fan and I can still admit that he is easily the top heavyweight and probabaly the top p4p fighter in MMA (along with Anderson Silva and GSP).
I feel your frustration when MMA is referred to as “ultimate fighting”, we get that in the UK all of the time. The Cage Rage adverts with Cockneys babbling about “ultimate fighting” used to drive me mad. I’m one of TUF generation but I’m still open minded and check out as much MMA past and present that I can so I can learn more about this great sport.
As for the criticism of your posts, most of them simply prove your points right as all they have to say is that your an American basher. Not a great way to debate in all honesty.
by David on Apr 16, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not debating his remarks bro. sorry im an american and have my opinions on ppl that say stupid shit about my country. I had nothing to say about his MMA standpoint. To all: I apologize, this is not a political website and yet im arguin this and that country shit. Im done
by charr552 on Apr 16, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m American and we’re fucking retarded 95% of the time.
by Brandon on Apr 17, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a jackass and should be shot on site.
by halljam2 on Apr 16, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO f..king way!!Is he a joke?
by Alpha Male 360 on Apr 16, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy has some sense in all fairness. I can easily spot the lemmings right now, LMAO!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Apr 17, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does make some great points. Keep up the good work Gorandy
by attakdog on Apr 17, 2009 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you realize that the picture is of Fedor?
by JaSwin420 on Apr 17, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way this interview reads, I have a hard time believing it’s real. Just saying.
by Speedy on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THe Hottest womans MMA player…Hotter than Gina and would beat her
http://www.slide.com/r/ADhfl_jGaz8ndMi5F4rHsDViz7ChMbF6?previous_view=mscd_embedded_url&view=original
by GORANDY on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad she’s out weighed by about 30 lbs.
by Antisocial on Apr 16, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Fact! I really don’t give a damn about Fedor anymore. If not him It would be somebody else not fighting in the UFC that the Haters would say was the best. Wake up! Fedor’s not even close to the best in the world, you guys are smokin some serious crack.
by broncos12405@yahoo.com on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is so much better than Fedor and on what criteria? Which fighter has beaten former UFC champs 6 times? Let me guess, Fedor’s not the best because Dana’s done business with guys “a billion times more popular than Fedor”. Funny shit.
by Diceman on Apr 16, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C’mon Fedor is fantastic, I don’t like the guy or his Russian associates but the fact of the matter is that he has not only beaten but destroyed top competition including several former UFC heavyweight champions. Right now there is no heavyweight better and the only other fighters that have truly dominated their weight classes in recent years other than Fedor are Anderson Silva, GSP and Miguel Torres. Even if you dislike the guy you can’t look credible if you don’t accept his talent.
by David on Apr 16, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You dont like the guy? Why the hell not What possible reason could the guy give you to not like him??
by Ca$z on Apr 17, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you have received a Bronco’s kids to the head, Fedor is simply the best no other HW has every been in so many exciting fights, check his highlights out on youtube and then tell me he is not amazing cause you won’t.
by bigmcmac on Apr 17, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana is a total dusche and moron, enought said.
by nathan on Apr 16, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny how you say that but if it werent for him none of you retards would be on this site actually this site probally wouldnt even have existed!!My point is Dana White and the Fertita bro’s made MMA what it is today!!!LIKE IT OR NOT!!!
by NM on Apr 17, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t change the fact that he’s a douche.
by Diceman on Apr 17, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC will never be mainstream until they get rid of Dana White. Do you ever hear of David Stern,Bud Selig, or Roger Goodell dropping F bombs in an interview. How would fans respond if Roger Goodell got into a feud with Tom Brady leading him to join the European Football League?(Tito Ortiz or Fedor anyone?). My point is that he has been good for the sport thus far, but it is time for a change.
by Bryce on Apr 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
when was the last time David Stern, Bud Selig or Roger Goodell had 200 hot head fighters that get paid to strap on gloves, climb in a cage and bash each others heads in to manage. Different sports all together…I sure as hell don’t want Mr. Rogers running the UFC…next thing you’re gonna want is Britney Spears doing a between fight performance and a human sausage race between the 6th and 7th fight. Don’t compare the sports, they aren’t the same. And do ya really think Tito deserves a contract? when was his last fight anyway and please…don’t let him do in ring interviews anymore.
by chowdah on Apr 16, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I should have read your other posts like this one before I replied to a couple others.
You’re obviously a Dana White mark and I’ve learned there isn’t any reason to debate with you guys.
No matter what he says or does you’ll be a Dana apologist and will agree with what ever he says without reason.
by Antisocial on Apr 17, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So because the man wants a different president than Dana White, he apparently wants Britney Spears doing between fight performances.
You really do a great job of reversing this negative stereotype associated with you and your dana-loving people.
by Brandon on Apr 17, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roger Goodell has over 200 meatheads trying to bash each others skulls in every Sunday in the fall. I hear a hell of a lot more off-field issues with NFL players than I do with MMA fighters too. The fact that a small percentage of the fighters act like foul mouth douchebags doesn’t mean Dana White needs to.
by Diceman on Apr 17, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bryce are you fucking kidding me!!Dana White and the Fertitas made the sport,so you are telling me that if UFC was never bought by Zuffa then Pride would have made MMA what it is today?
Complete Moron!!
by NM on Apr 17, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can honestly say i have never even heard of David Stern,Bud Selig, or Roger Goodell. Does that make Dana White more mainstream than them, oh plus fuck fedor and this circus that follows his name around.
by PanicZoo on Apr 17, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The interviewer undermines his intelligence by repeatedly suggesting a one fight deal. Dana would have to be brain dead to make a one fight deal with ANYONE. The deal would have to be long term; if Fedor agreed to a six fight contract, then Dana could make some concessions.
by David on Apr 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GREAT POST MANIA. I JUST SEARCHED ALL OF THE OTHER MMA SITES AND FOR SOME REASON THEY HAVEN’T POSTED THIS YET. IN MY OPINION FEDOR IS THE ONE PEICE THAT THE UFC IS MISSING. HE IS THE BEST FIGHTER EVER. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. DANA KNOWS THAT TOO. ANYWAYS, LETS HOPE SOMETHING COMES TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT PROBABALY WON’T.
by lee maury on Apr 16, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana should stop trashing Fedor though. That’s embarrassing for the UFC. MMA fans know Fedor is legit, so there’s no sense calling him a nobody.
by David on Apr 16, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s like if the Owner or President of the New York Jets did an interview and said Tom Brady sucks he’s not even a top 5 quarterback.
How can you take someone like that seriously?
by Antisocial on Apr 16, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point antisocial. Does dana even think that anyone even believes what he is saying at this point?
by arm bar on Apr 16, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s definitely wrong about Fedor. It’s ridiculous to not consider him one of the best pound-for-pounders.
I would love to see him fight Brock Lesnar. The Fedor-obsessed would burn me at the stake to even consider Brock Lesnar has a chance, but I am a huge Fedor fan and it would just be interesting to see.
by Johnny Farnham on Apr 16, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Antisocial…if I’m a Jets fan and my team owner or gm gushes all over Tom Brady, I want him fired…Sure, privately can admire him, as I am sure Dana admires Fedor…but why the hell would he publicly say it??? Might as well go all in with all 4 suits!!
by chowdah on Apr 16, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So privately you can be honest but to the public you lie?
by Antisocial on Apr 16, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the owner of the Jets would be dumb enough to say Tom Brady isn’t that good. In fact you hear rivals in other sports all the time say that their opponents are very good. Sorry chowdah, Dana’s insulting your intelligence too when he says stuff like that, even though you may not know it.
by Diceman on Apr 17, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s Dana supposed to do?? Gush all over Fedor??? Dana has been singing the same song from the beginning…its business. It would be bad business for Dana to gush all over someone NOT in the UFC. If he plays up Fedor, saying there is nobody better, doesn’t that also say that the UFC has less superior fighters and that we should spend our money watching Fedor instead. Dana is a business man and a promoter first and foremost. Until Fedor signs with the UFC, Dana will not be in the Fedor love business period.
by chowdah on Apr 16, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is an intelligent post from the business perspective. Good call chowdah.
by halljam2 on Apr 16, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times are you people going to use the crutch Dana is a business man as an excuse for him being a liar.
by Antisocial on Apr 16, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it’s not an intelligent post, it’s all bull. Does anyone really think for a second that if Dana said, “Yes, Fedor is one of the best fighters in the world”, that the UFC would lose a SINGLE PENNY? You have GOT to be kidding me. He doesn’t have to gush over him, he can give an honest assessment like that. No other sports besides professional wrestling have someone as immature and unproffesional running the show as Dana White. He helped build the sport, but so long as he acts like a clown it’s just going to plateau.
by Diceman on Apr 17, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man how many Davids are they, I’m going to have to change my name sharpish.
by David W-S on Apr 16, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Dana’s sign off line:
Carmichael Dave: UFC President Dana White….you’re off the stay fresh maxi-pad hotseat. Thanks for your time!
Dana White: No problem. You’re a moron.
by RobH86 on Apr 16, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Typical Dana, classy to the very end. What a guy.
by attakdog on Apr 17, 2009 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This interview was most likely scripted.
Charmichael Dave is just another Dana White lackey.
by Antisocial on Apr 17, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana can do what he wants as far as im concerned. Fedor is the best Heavyweight today. I am very pro UFC because it is the pinnacle of MMA. However, Why does it seem like Fedor has to clean out the division? Newbie MMA fans just buy into the UFC vs the world bullshit. There are many great fighters that are out there that could come in the UFC and compete. I dont know why we waste time on this when we all know that Fedor is the best all around heavyweight fighter, but we should accept the fact that he could get caught by a Carwin or Lesnar. It happens everyday.
by LastEmperor on Apr 16, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey now, Dana. There’s no need to go draggin Arlovski’s chin into this. Suspect chin or not, Arlovski’s still top 3 in the world.
Other than that, I agree with Dana. If you dont wanna play by the UFCs rules, frick you. You can go somewhere else. If you want to fight in the premier MMA organization against the best fighters in the world, play by their rules.
Fedor is gonna ask for a shiz load of money if/when he goes to the UFC… because he knows once he gets there Brock Lesnar is waitin on him and will ruin his mythical stature.
With that said, Mir wins by sub, again, at UFC 100.
by Craig on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You got to be kidding Craig, You are saying that Mir can beat Lesnar but Fedor can’t. You realize that Fedor is known for his submissions too right???? Fedor would job all the Heavyweights in the UFC…..How would any of those chumps stop him? Fedor has never been knocked out or submitted!!!!!!! I suggest you watch some of Fedors fights…….SERIOUSLY!
by TheSaint on Apr 16, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen his fights and I’m not impressed.
He couldn’t even finish Cro Cop. haha
by Natas on Apr 16, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lesnar couldn’t finish heath herring… who was tko by a body kick by crocop
mma math is dumb
by quidnunc on Apr 17, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s cause Herring was in a fetal position the whole time. LMAO!
The ref should have stopped it. ;)
by Natas on Apr 17, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s all about matchups. I think Mir knows exactly what he’s in for, because he’s been there before, and he’s good enough to pull out the win. I’m not sayin Fedor cant beat Lesnar, cause he can. But, if/when they fight, Lesnar is gonna win it. Fedor’s great on the ground, but he’s always stronger than the guy he’s fightin. Look what happened to Randy.
by Craig on Apr 17, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The money won’t be the factor. It will be the exclusiveness of the contract. He will not be able to do sambo but whatever. Every time Fedor fights it is ______ and M1 global. How much money and all that goes to M1 global, Fedor’s org to fight?
by halljam2 on Apr 16, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was a really good interview and i am glad that somebody finally pushed dana. i hope they can get fedor so that he can run through all of the UFC heavies. It doesnt look like it will ever happen.
by hew1216 on Apr 16, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carmichael Dave and Dana White really do get along. It was Dave to peppered Dana with Ques that that we want to hear him answer. Hopefully they’ll do it again on another “stay fresh maxi-pad” Hot Seat Topic.
by DAVE A on Apr 17, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As someone whose seen Fedor whoop ass live I believe I can speak to his awesomeness. Until someone proves otherwise he’s the best fighter in or out of the UFC.
That being said I heard a retarded rumor he might fight Monson next instead of Barnett. I hope this bull crap isn’t true.
by scissorfight on Apr 16, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Barnett wants any part of a fight with Fedor so it’s probably Monson or someone like Buentello.
by Antisocial on Apr 17, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blah blah blah, Fedor’s a god, blah blah blah, Dana’s a smart businessman, blah blah blah Fedor’s management team is crazy and unreasonable, blah, blah, blah, Dana is Controlling and Greedy.
All us MMA fans can argue both sides all we want. The UFC doesnt need Fedor and Fedor doesn’t need the UFC.
by RiverHorror on Apr 17, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well you half right, the UFC does need Fedor because all organizations are judged upon the HW division and you don’t have the best you can’t be the best. Fedor deffinetely doesn’t need the UFC.
by bigmcmac on Apr 17, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EAT SH*T DANA – just do a deal, watch Lesnar or Mir get knocked the fuck out and let the world see Strikeforce and Affliction rise as one :)
by DownUnder on Apr 17, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dana as usual is full of crap…he is a liar and should not be trusted..if somebody’s signed with him he’s the best if he’s not signed with him his a nobody..common brock lesner would get beat by fedor easily..dana should stop misleading the younger ufc audience
by dana on Apr 17, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana’s right, it would be really stupid for the UFC to do a one fight deal. The UFC wants to sign Fedor, there’s no question. It’s just that it really would ruin the UFC if Fedor came in and beat the champion (whoever that may be) and then left. But of course DANA wont’ admit that. I don’t get why everyone is on his ass. He’s doing his job and protecting his company. If you had his job you would do the same thing. He’s not going to risk getting fired and ruining the UFC because some fans are complaining about not signing Fedor.
by Tony on Apr 17, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
firstly i think arlovski could have one that fight, fedor isnt very athletic at all, which brings me to my second point fedor would not “easily” beat brock lesner.. This is what dana was talking about, making fedor in to some myth or conspiracy. DANA IS RIGHT. If they get what they want, they will get the one fight deal, and if they win they’ll fuck off and he’ll fight once a year again and say hes the best still, and if fedor lose’s he can go into hiding just incase.. The best fighters fight consistantly, so new up and comers can have a crack at the best…those who earn it anyway… Thats the problem with fedors managment
by jesse on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor wants to fight the best and prove that he is, he should take a 3 fight deal then walk. Less than 2 years and he goes back to Sambo or whatever else he wants to do.
Both sides should compromise a little or drop it.
UFC doesn’t need Fedor, Fedor doesn’t need the UFC and the fans will still watch both.
Dana already has a HW champion that makes a ton of money and could KO Fedor. Fedor can always find work elsewhere, and he knows he could KO Lesnar.
Stalemate.
No one gets any younger. Eventually the opportunity will be gone.
by KS on Apr 17, 2009 6:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana should just carry on with his Fedor bashing tactics, let’s face it, it’s worked brilliantly so far, the guy’s bending over backwards to sign a UFC contract. Seriously, this act’s really old now. How’s about just being nice to the bloke, give him credit where it’s due (we all know he’s top 3 P4P in the world, to deny that just makes you look an idiot) and he might feel like doing business with you. A bit of goodwill might go a long way. Affliction’s going bust, so if he wants a half decent challenge, he’ll have to fight in the UFC or it’s off to Japan to fight freakshow bouts. Dana’s big chance of signing this guy is coming up soon, i believe a change of tactic is needed on his behalf. But is Dana capable of that? Probably not, it’s easier for him to swear his head off and talk trash about someone I guess!
by attakdog on Apr 17, 2009 6:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think in this situation both parties need to think about the fans first. If this doesn’t happen at some point there will be a void of what could have.
They both need to tone down their requirements, like dana allowing fedor to take part in sambo and fedor’s guys forgetting about the stupidness with the russian arena. Both parties are being pig-headed especially the russian side in my opinion.
by SGTBlitz on Apr 17, 2009 8:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome interview, finally someone with enough balls to ask him the tough questions. Much respect for Dave in that interview.
by Jason on Apr 17, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blah Blah Blah Fact is there is only one belt that has any value in MMA and it’s the UFC belt. Don’t get me wrong I like watching fights regardless of the organization but as far as most MMA fans are concerned the HW champion of the WORLD is the UFC champion and it should because most MMA fans from soft core to hardcore watch the UFC there is no arguing that. I think Fedor is a great fighter and has a great chance of taking the UFC belt if he did enter but then again i thought Cro Cop was going to be a lot better as well. The problem Fedor is fighting for a belt with no meaning or purpose in an organization that will not be remembered 10 years from now most likely fighting for a worthless belt once or twice a year against ex UFC champions is a joke. The Fedor fan will argue that he’s the best because of his record but really what has he done since Pride worth a champion talking about. has he beat the number two or three or four guy outside the UFC even? But then again f^ck pride when you get paid a half a million to beat up former champions. There is no fighter Fedor has faced that would be the UFC champion today. If you think AA or Tim would?….you don’t know MMA.
by Puck Head on Apr 17, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Nog? Twice? Wasn’t he the Ufc Interim champ like 5 months ago??? Just a thought!
by attakdog on Apr 17, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor does have a belt with meaning…..because Fedor has it.
by introvert on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what ever belt fedor has is the true belt since he is the hw champ of the world
by roy on Apr 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cro Cop has not lost to anyone outside the UFC since Fedor if he Cro Cop didn’t come to the UFC you guy’s would have him rated as the #2 or #3 HW in the world don’t even try and BS because you know even he can beat the current AA and Tim he just beat Fedors third last opponent Hong Man. I’m not saying Fedor can’t beat the top guy’s in the UFC I’m saying the fights would actually prove worthy of a championship fight. i don’t think Fedor can handle Brock but that’s just my opinion Fedor is a better Pound for Pound fighter but man against man Brock is to much bigger, stronger, faster and has enough skills to control the 55 pound lighter Fedor.
by Puck Head on Apr 17, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i give you that puck, lesnar could give anyone problems but he still has alot to prove, like winning more than 3 fights.fedor is the hw champ of the world ask any fighter and they will tell you the same.
by roy on Apr 17, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a huge Brock fan but I don’t think he’d have a chance against Fedor. Brock struggled with Mir’s submissions and Fedor’s a brilliant submission guy too but also has KO power standing up which Mir doesn’t, double the threat!
by attakdog on Apr 17, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i kinda of agree roy but I’m pretty sure most fans want to see a champion fighting the #2 ranked fighter and after AA there should only be one choice for Fedors next fight outside the UFC and that’s Barnett right now. What is the point of fighting the #5 or even #3 ranked fighter going to prove? As a fan you have to kind of take it as an insult for that the suppose #1 Hw champion fighting for a half a million a fight to fight ex UFC champs that would be lucky to get in the top four in the UFC alone. AA has good striking but that’s about it he’s still exciting to watch because he has KO power but that’s really about it and Tim well he has not evolved at all from his champion day’s I don’t think he would be in the top 7 in the UFC now. i have more respect for Herring fighting the best possible fighters even though he loses.
by Puck Head on Apr 17, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a radio lin for this? i want to listen to it, not read it. I want to see how pissed Dana was and how Carmicheal was coming off. Yes he is one of the best or the best interviewer
by Adam on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Dana and don’t agree with all the media hounds who are finding fault with Zuffa’s negotiating tactics. When you are the promoter, you get to set the terms and rules under which someone fights. The fighter usually negotiates for money and to be able to work in his sponsors. Even if you’re Fedor, it’s not ideal for you to tell the promoter that you want to be free to fight in other promotions at your own discretion. That would potentially leave a UFC belt in limbo while a fighter goes off and does his own thing. Doesn’t make sense for any top promotion. If they don’t do it for all their fighters, they shouldn’t do it for Fedor, no matter how good he is.
Fedor will eventually come around, and we’ll see him in the UFC. Until then, we can see him in Affliction or wherever else. Not a problem.
by Fred on Apr 17, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carmichael Dave: (laughs) Me and my crew? You mean my one year old and 6 month old? Let me guess why its stupid business. You guys make money and give the fans what they want based on one fight….but when he beats that ass, and leaves the UFC….the entire Heavyweight division forever has the dreaded "asterisk" on it. It in essence gives Fedor all the bargaining chips.
This guy is soooooooooo right
by Vato Gonzalez on Apr 17, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How is he right? He obviously is having babies with more then one woman.
by Big D on Apr 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or perhaps his one year old is actually 1 year and 3+ months old…geez
by Diceman on Apr 17, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well dana it seem about 99% of the MMA world disagree’s with you.
by nathan on Apr 17, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By all the posts above it pretty clear 99% of MMA fan’s would love to see Fedor in the UFC. Some think he’s the greatest, some think he’s good, some think he would be the next Cro Cop. Truth is it’s all opinion or fiction there is no way to say this will happen or that will happen. The real issue right now is who’s fault is it that we have not seen Fedor in the UFC?
The biggest issue is not the money, it’s the contract that would not allow Fedor to fight for any other organization or his sambo during the contract period. As well I think M1 wants a piece of the PPV pie when Fedor fights?
If this is true I would have to side with the UFC and say it’s Fedor or Fedors managements fault. Really it’s a five or six fight contract. I think Fedor’s Management deserves more hate than the UFC guy’s on this subject.
by Beaver on Apr 18, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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