Buster: I couldn’t agree more with your post!

I also think the FACT that he was embarrassed is really going to pay dividends against Chucky-poo!

I think Shogun can outclass liddell in the Clinch. I think Shogun can trip Chuck down to the mat and submit him as well.

AS long as Shogun has cardio, there wont be too many people that will be able to defeat him.

I drool over the thought of Page vs., Shogun 2 in their primes!

Torn ACL
Phase 1: 1-7 days: reduce swelling
Phase 2:11 weeks: return to weight bearing normal gait without brace
Phase 3:3-4 months: normal running gait, active quad resistance training without pain
Phase 4: 4-6 months return to cutting activities running and jumpming without pain
Phase 5: 6 months return to competition, no pain or swelling as a result of training

You guys do the math….a year and a half just to get back to normal competition!!!

Hell no Buster I am a huge Shogun fan as well and I hope he puts a whipping on Chuck. Not that I dislike Chuck but I feel its more important for me to see a Shogun back to his best to see if he really has got what it takes to properly shake up the division like I think he can whereas Chuck has had his time at the top and is probably never gonna be at his best ever again.

Ca$z I wasn’t busting on Shogun just pointing out how hard it is to comeback from knee surgery…..I have a feeling Chuck is going to try to wrestle in this fight if that’s the case than he might wear Shogun down..that is the injuried Shogun..if he is healed than Shogun muals Chunk in the standup and then submits him!

the steroids for your lungs are not anabolic steroids and are legal.

They are legal with a prescription, just like anabolic/androgenic steroids are. People take steroids for other reasons than just performance enhancement. That being said, they type of drug most used by cyclists is called EPO.

Right on the money Crayze!

Cardio CAN be improved with sterioids. Often the effect is noticed when you’re not on them anymore, just like in this suspicious case with Shogun. You also tend to loose energy, and kind of act like you’ve had no sleep. You basically lose that “spark” or egde in you.

Just looking at my daughter’s puffer since she has asthma, it contains Fluticasone Propionate. A quick google search…

“a man-made steroid which is related to the naturally-occurring steroid hormone, cortisol or hydrocortisone”

Hmmmm, last time I checked those 2 steroids were…banned!

Great post Amen. All this Roid talk is stupid. Its a cardio issue which results from having a bad knee. Bad knee means that you cant train cardio has hard as you would like.

Roids NEVER helped in the cardio department. THey help build strength. So I dont get how Roid talk is even relevant to shogun’s situation!

well, roids isn’t the only thing that’s out there.. look at Sean Sherk, he looks tired in the 2-3 round these days!

Shogun has not beenm accused of HGH, he gets accused of Using Roids. To my knowledege, NO uSA state athletic commissions test for HGH….I dont think I am wrong about this, but if someone knows for certainty that I am wrong, please inform me!

Roids is what Shogun is accused of and roids increase strength. its not like Shogun was some meathead wrestler like brock that relied on strength….shogun has always relied on technique!

yOU say that HGH improves Cardio…Bullsh8t! YOU dont just stick a needle in your ass, and wake up with better cardio. There is NO substitute for HARD WORK when it comes to cardio! FACT!!!!

Lesnar and Carwin have both been using HGH/roids and whatever you wanna call it.. I’m pretty sure there were and still are alot of guys in the UFC that uses that kind of sh*t (including Tito), you can just look at some guys and see it!.. HGH may not improve cardio, I don’t know but there are still other things that alot of long distance skiiers are using, a guy like Maurice Greene (the 100 m sprinter) wasn’t green his whole career either and you could see the results of that, the explosiveness and the speed that came from his incredible body.. It’s not called performance-enhancing drugs for nothing, physique and being in shape is crucial for any athlete to get their skills into play for as long and as hard as possible..

Clarification on HGH testing. HGH is ABSOLUTELY detectible. However, a blood test is required. It’s use is still rampant in the team sports because the collective bargaining agreements that exist do not allow for blood testing.

Regarding MMA and substances/drugs that may increase cardio, they absolutely exist. Look at the farce that the Tour De France has become. However, I would question their effectiveness for MMA, as the cardio required is more anarobic or explosive compared to cycling or running. As for testing, several of the “designer drugs” are non-detectable, but what the testers are looking for are masking agents and not neccessarely the steriod itself. Point being, the drugs are typically one step ahead of the tests most of the time.

All that said and to John’s bigger point, it is true that you can’t sit on the couch and eat twinkies, then stick a needle in your ass or take a pill, then wake up the next day with phenomonal cardio.

CL,

That’s not how it works, otherwise it would be like those crazy diet pills you see on TV.

HGH, Steroids, etc. They dramatically increase the effect of everything you do. So even a really good work out will give you results of a crazy heavy work out. It doesn’t matter if you’re lifting weights, cycling, running, squat thrusts, whatever! The results and effect on your body is amplified.

You’re body is wired all the time. Your reactions are quicker, your blood is pumping hard, everything turns on like a switch ready for action.

Steroids are not only about muscle building/bulking.

So John, stop making excuses for Shogun. All the writting is on the wall.

Shogun, Chuck or any other fighter should have ZERO excuse for not coming prepared for a professional fight. I know my ass would be canned if I wasn’t ready to do my job everyday.

UFC Champ, I do agree wholeheartedly with your last point. We won’t have to wait long to see what Shogun will bring on Saturday.

Regarding the rest, I believe I was saying exactly what you are in my post. That steroids/performance enhancers do NOT work like diet pills. Also not mentioned is the long list of health risks associated with use. Everything has a cost.