UFC 101: Forrest Griffin and Amir Sadollah to be 'fight buddies' in Philly (Video)

I wish that they would put out a prop bet on whether or not Amir fights at 101. NO would be a heavy favorite. I mean, seriously, when are we going to see this kid fight in the octagon? His training partners better be extra ginger with him and someone better wipe down the mats everytime someone hits the ground (so he don’t get staph again).

Come to think of it, I find it very ironic that a lot of people hated and continue to hate on Condit because of “lack of competetion” or what not and say that he blows, well, what about Amir? Who has he fought? Condit would have to be a 4-1 favorite at least against Amir.

It’s off topic, but how do you guys like Anthony Johnson vs Dustin Hazelette or either one of them vs Condit? I think they can do good things with the up an commers at 170, but they have to start fighting each other. I’m tired of this building stars seperatley bull shit. Let them fight eachother so we can see who’s better.

Very good point. This is true in EVERY wt class.

The self-deprecating humor of these too is getting old. Does anyone think they are funny?

On the subject of TUF winners, heres an interesting tid-bit I found somewhere:

“With Ryan Bader’s unanimous decision victory against Carmelo Marrero, "The Ultimate Fighter" winners — excluding Matt Serra and Travis Lutter — are now a combined 53-15-1 inside the Octagon.”

Interesting.

Amir is a poor man’s forrest except he’s not funny.

Well I guess the TUF winners are properly babied so as to keep their records appealing.

I co sign that John.

agreed John…BTW he finished Shogun ;)

Forest is big, but he has a lot of heart.
He isn’t a great finisher but he takes a lot of abuse and he is always the underdawg.
He finished Shogun well enough, but your right, he probably wont finish Thaigo with jits, but as much of a ‘beast’ that he is he can still get KO’d.

John, actually the last time Forrest won by (T)KO was the last time I was in attendance for a live event, UFC 55 at Mohegan Sun. I saw him steamroll the King of Rock n Rumble. Now, its looking like I’ll be attending UFC 101, and Forrest is on the card. Maybe, just maybe, ViolentMike being in attendance is exactly what Forrest needs to “buss a grape”

I will have to respectfully disagree with you John, Forrest hasnt finished a fight since Shogun in 07’ but he only fought twice in 08’ which was his win/lose to Rampage and Evans.

You will be upset when Forrest walks thru Silva….if he loses then I will eat my words but till then i will say Forrest tko or sub in the 2nd.

finishing an injured and completely out of shape Shogun by just hanging on him for almost 15 minutes isn’t exactly impressive!

The critisisms on Forrest are fair till he’s able to prove differently. However, I also remain unconvinced Thiago Silva is anything more than a middle-of-the-pack sort of fighter. Again, this is an interesting fight in that both guys have a lot to prove. The loser will drop a long way out of contention.

Forrest also finished Elvis Sinosic(?)….. Leave it to John to hate on Forrest.

Forrest is gonna try to stick and move but he’ll quickly realize that he doesn’t have enough firepower. Also trying to ware down thiago means you have to get close to him which means there’s a high probability of being put down.

I’m in on the hate too, and it’s mostly because of the treatment he gets from the UFC!.. Another thing i can’t stand is that the commentators (Joe & Mike) are hired and controlled by The UFC, they’re so biased towards certain fighters..

I wonder, if John didn’t inspire all this hate on Forrest, if everyone else on here would be so vocal about it and say he gets special treatment and sucks and gets easy fights.

I really like Forrest, and I really like Thiago Silva, but Forrest has proven himself already as a strong and disciplined fighter, whereas Silva has never really faced opposition, other than Machida. You can make an argument by saying Antonio Mendes with the head kick, but I think that Silva just underestimated him and got caught sleeping. Silva is a tough and dangerous fighter, and even if he’s fought cans he’s finished all but one, so that speaks volumes.

In the end though, I see Forrest winning a decision, and T.Silva will then get a can, then brought up slowly, and eventually into a title contender.

Rob and John just hate on Forest because he beat Rampage.

Rob that is so lame to say you hate Forest due to how the UFC treats him,so you must hate Rampage to because the UFC sure favors him giving him a title shot with 1 fight in the UFC then when he loses he is gurentee a shot after one win until Evans could not come to terms.

Enough with the excuses for Shogun,I like Shogun as much as the next guy and for Forest to beat him was very stunning he was ranked number 1 in the world at that time.

IMO T.Silva will NEVER get a shot at the title and will eventually fade away!!He is not at the same level as any top fighters including Forest!!

RoB — Mike and Joe are biased toward certain fighters? Like whom? And what does “biased” mean in this context, anyway? Joe favors grappling, because he’s a grappler. But I don’t see him favoring them. I’ve been watching UFC for a while now, and I haven’t seen what you’re suggesting.

It means that when you’re watching a fight with a guy from TUF like Forrest you have to sit there and listen to their crap non-stop.. they are owned by the UFC and they’re being told what to say and what not to say..

NM – Shougn that night was as badly injured and out of shape as Nog was when he fought Mir.. that is not excuses that is facts!

HOld the F up! Im not hating on Forrest at all, in my above post! I give him a great chance of beating my boy THiago! The only thing I was trying to say is that Forrest wont be able to Finish Silva….hows that hating? whats so wrong about that? He cant finish fights, and I dont think he can finish Silva….Thats a pretty factual statement for the most part if you ask me.

rob, thanks for having a brain man! Great posts! Like Rob mentioned, the reason I hate on Forrest so much, is cause I dont feel that he has truly earned his spot….He is a silver spoon UFC fighter that like Rob said, gets it easy from the UFC. and listening to Roga/Goldberg, distort the fight commentary to favor Forrest is just pitifull!

How is any of this a knock on Forrest? All I simply said, is that he is a top fighter, with the least ability to finish a fight…up there with Sean Sherk! We bashed Sherk for ages about not finishing fights….why should Forrest get a pass?

I think Silva is over rated. He hasn’t beat anyome good in the UFC. Sure he might be that good, but in his only test he did very poorly. Granted Machida is a huge test and a lot of good fighters would look bad against him, but I’ll wait until he’s beaten someone to put my faith in him.

i second this. i will say it again. thiago silva is overrated. who has he beat? his biggest win is houston alexander? he is way to slow to give forest trouble. he is good but not top 10 .

I dont think there are 10 UFC LHW’s that are better than silva at the current moment, but I will say that Forrest is clearly the favorite. Thiago is still very young kid, so he will only get better as time goes by. Iw ouldnt write him off just yet!

I personally don’t think Forrest is 50% responsible for where the UFC is today. I would have to say that Dana White, the fertitas, and Chuck Liddell were more instrumental than Mr. Griffin.

my $.02

So the Griffen/Bonnar fight had nothing to do with it when Mr.Dana White said it himself?

I believe MMA would have exploded in popularity without the Griffin/Bonnar fight eventually. It just would not have happened as quickly or convincingly. The public had been starved for years for a combat sport to fill the void left behind by boxing being such a mess. My worry is that boxing-type corruption will eventually find it’s way to foul up MMA. There are already signs. Enjoy the ride, as it may be fleeting.

NM — I think Killer makes a good point, though I also think he underestimates the part the Forrest played in his fight with Stephen. If I had to assign a percentage, I’d say 25% Forrest, 25% Stephen (based on their fight), and the rest divvied up to predecessors. Obviously, the groundwork of Dana, the Fertita’s, Spike TV, etc., all played a huge role. Not to mention, the “stars” that came before TUF, like the Couture, Tito, Iceman, Hughes, etc.

Exactly, and not to forget that Tito was the one that fired everybody up for years long before that.. this is a guy that were the company’s biggest draw for years, and along with as you said Couture and ICeman they started to get success that they’d never seen before.. Tito set records when he fought Ken the first time, then they sold out the arrowhead pond in two days when he fought Forrest, had the biggest buy-rate when he fought Chuck the 2nd time, did the best they had ever done on Spike when he fought Ken.. and how you know that it were because of Tito is b/c he’s always been a huge draw no matter who he fought

LOL,that sh#t is true now that you said it

they look like Bert and Ernie

Yes, he’s definitely Griffin and Florian’s butt love child.

lol, you used Rampage’s line as well. I posted it before getting this far down the thread, and I originally had “punch is way out of a wet paper bag” and then I had a Rampage moment.

What was your Rampage moment,you went out and ran over some pregnent women?

hahaha vM!!! Cant buss a Grape…I will be using that when talking about Forrest for the rest of his career!