Carlos Condit feels like he beat Martin Kampmann at UFC Fight Night 18
by MMAmania.com on Apr 2, 2009 9:46 AM EDT
Email
Print
Props: UFC.com
Quoteworthy:
"It was a tough fight. Kampmann did good stuff. He did well. I felt like I won the first and second rounds, but the second round was pretty close. You know … I left it to the judges decision, which is always risky…. I did more damage, but in this game I know as well as anybody else that the guy who stays on top the most gets the nod. And that was my bad for not pushing the pace and staying on top of him. But hats off to Martin … he did a fantastic job."
Carlos Condit -- the last man to hold the World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) 170-pound title -- shares his thoughts on the controversial result last night in the main event of UFC Fight Night 18: "Condit vs. Kampmann." He dropped a very close split decision to Martin Kampmann in a great back-and-forth battle that should have earned "Fight of the Night" honors (somehow that award went to Tyson Griffin and Rafael Dos Anjos). It was a very close fight -- the first for Condit inside the Octagon -- which he realizes could have likely gone his way had he done things differently to sway the judges decisions. Did he do enough for you?
90 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Was a damn close fight; great reversals and transitions on the ground; action packed, you couldn’t ask for more. I also feel he should have won the fight; but its not like he had a bad showing either.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 2, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions
his fault.. never leave it to the judges..finsih your fights
by mikeybear on Apr 2, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
you dont think he was trying to finish it? Its not any easy task for anyone to finish Kampmann. Except Marquart :)
by BMO on Apr 2, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i think kampmann won (i may be a bit biased because i’m a kampmann fan) … but it was close… i dont think there really was any controversy… it could of gone either way unlike other fights i’ve seen when there is 1 clear winner but he doesn’t get the judges vote
kampmann is a beast at 170 can’t wait to see him fight again
by ufcaddict on Apr 2, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
In my eyes, both fighters walked away with a win. Condit looked spectacular in defeat. In fact, I had him winning the first two round and Kampmann winning the 3rd, so I had it 29-28 for The Natural Born Killer. If he was able to win that 3rd round, he would have had a unanimous decision. MANY people thought that Kampmann would run through Condit, but I just couldn’t see it happening. Like I’ve been sayin for years, Carlos can SCRAP!
Also, after watching the fight, I think its safe to say that Condit is for sure the "more dangerous" fighter.
It was nice to not see that ol’ man from Alberquerque that beefs with Greg Jackson not in his corner too. I always thought that that camp was too small for him and there wasn’t enough top training partners. Now that he is at ACS, he joins Jamie Varner and Aaron Simpson as their only exciting fighters. But Condit is just on another level as far as excitement goes, but I am a fan so I am biased.
Also, it is a travesty that this fight was not FOTN. I couldn’t believe it!
by ViolentMike on Apr 2, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought he won the close second round, and round 1 was clearly his..another crappy decision at the hands of the pathetic mma judges, and the ridiculous 10 point must scoring system.
Its a shame because bad decision cost fighters their win bonus money….nOT COOL!!!!! and I dont want to hear that crap about how you shouldnt leave it in the hands of the judges. STFU!!!! when u face top competition you arent always going to be able to finish every fight…and when you dont, the judges who get paid, should be competent enough to score the fight correctly and award the right fighter the win!
“shouldnt leave it in the hands of the judges” is the biggest crap phrase in mma. Its just a cop out for the pathetic judges…what the hell do they get paid for? Stop making excusesa for those idiots…and if they botch 3 decisions..FIRE THEM, and get someone else who can do their job correctly! WTF!
by john on Apr 2, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I got to respectfully disagree Mike. Condit allowed Kampman to control the fight. Condit is the better ground fighter but was on his back for the whole 3rd round. Jamie Varner Is a punk and training with him won’t make you any better. ACS has a bunch of no name guys with mediocre talent, Condit should be at Jackson’s camp…it’s not like he’ll be calling out GSP anytime soon!
by kevin on Apr 2, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
John I totally agree.. great post!
VM.. time is ticking sir! Beast Coast Representers!
by PhilQNY on Apr 2, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
John/Mike, a close second round that 2 judges saw as Kampmans rounds!
by kevin on Apr 2, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with condit, it was pretty obvious that he won the first 2 rounds…easy one to judge, I don’t know how they messed this up
by ja434650 on Apr 2, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Kev, when Carlos first started training at that camp in Alberquerque, it was affiliated with Greg Jackson’s camp and he would spar with Diego and crew. However, several years ago, the owner and Jackson had some sort of falling out and were no longer affiliated and ol’ man said that Condit is NOT allowed to train at Jackson’s.
I was in no way saying that ACS in any where near as good as Jackson’s, Extreme Couture, ATT… but it IS better than that TINY little camp he was at where he has no one good to train with.
by ViolentMike on Apr 2, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Condit won the fight. He dominated the first round and did more damage overall. It was very close, but I didn’t think Kampmann did enough in the final round to deserve it.
by Jeremyjackson on Apr 2, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
no one should be so outraged here, the fight was very close. Personally I thought Kamp took a very close rd 1. Condit took rd 2 in my mind fairly clearly and Kamp took rd 3 easily. Rd 1 decided the fight as I remember it.
by Crowls on Apr 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Cecil was right in this one but he still sucks. Great fight though, very technical. But Condit’s wrestling is still horrible. When the danish kickboxer gets more takedowns in a fight then you know there’s something wrong.
by NameNotRequired on Apr 2, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t get that part of it because at ACS he is with a bunch of wrestlers. How is Kampmann taking him down that easily???
by Crowls on Apr 2, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They really need to stop juding these fights like a boxing match. Just cause your on your back doesnt mean your not controlling a fight a good jiu-jitsu guy can be controlling the fight from his back. COndit controlled the standup and was better on the ground in my opinion he got robbed.
by GSP4Prez on Apr 3, 2009 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
eh, i think he did enough to win, but so did martin. its not fair to martin to say condit got robbed b.c really both fighters did enough those first two rounds to have won. the striking side of things condit won, the wrestling and bjj side of things kampmann won. both did enough to win it just depended on the judges
by Phil on Apr 2, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Phil, I agree with you when you say it’s not fair to Kampmann to say Condit got robbed. Although I had Kampmann winning the fight, it went totally different than I predicted. I thought Kampmann would steam-roll Condit, but that skinny dude definetly deserves to be in the UFC. I thought that Kampmann controlled the majority of the fight, and would have finished most other fighters. The fight was really exciting though and some nice BJJ…they looked like a couple of wolverines in the cage reversing and fighting for position. Awesome fight.
by MM_Eh on Apr 2, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, what I really took away from this fight is that Condit def belongs. I was concerned about how he would fair considering we haven’t seen him against great comp, but he showed me everything I need to get on board the Condit war wagon. Love both of these fighters and we’ll prob see a rematch.
I have similar concerns with Shields but his striking is nowhere near Condit’s level. I’m not buying on shields until I see him in the UFC. A win over Lawler at 185 will def be a feather in his cap, but being as it’s mostly a matchup fight I’m still not gonna be convinced. Unless he wins on the feet and then subs Lawler.
by Crowls on Apr 2, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He wasn’t robbed. The fight was close, but Kampmann had more take downs and submission attempts. Condit had a slight edge in striking, but I think Kampann won personally. Welcome to the UFC Carlos!!!!!!
by LJ on Apr 2, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get other mma fans sometimes. In a fight that is about as close as you could possibly get, a fighter is “robbed”.
I bet you could have a perfectly choreographed fight where every round is exactly equal in every way, and people would still be up and arms about one fighter “DOMINATING” the other.
This fight was as close as you can get, and was basically a coin flip at the end regarding who won. That said, Cecil Peoples is the judge who feels Condit won, so yeah…
by yohnstoppable on Apr 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe they didnt get FOTN! It usually seems to go to the main event and also to a good fight that was close. They had both but didnt get it.
by BOW on Apr 2, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was a clear decision for Condit. Martin sunk in a couple chokes but only when Condit was taking him down and Condit escaped or survived to the bell. Kampmann was also saved by the bell in three. Condit won rounds 1 and 2 by pushing the pace with a varied attack. He landed all sorts of strikes and split Kampmann’s face open. That push kick to the face was awesome. And Kampmann won because he laid on Condit for one round? Pathetic. Condit did more damage from the bottom. But because he was unable to get up, he loses the fight.
I must say this was an exciting back and forth fight. But when it was all over, it was pretty apparent to me who won. Also, I agree with Jonnie G from South Philly that the statement “He shouldn’t have left it to the judges,” is ignorant B.S.
by wAyNe on Apr 2, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m a huge Kampmann fan but i’ve got to say i was disappointed with his performance. it looked as though that cut he sustained in the first took a lot of bounce out of his step, but it could have been the cut down to WW that did it. Either way i would have had to give it to Condit, and i’m not a Condit fan at all.
by The_Cannibal on Apr 2, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
News for ya Carlos………you lost. Whoever wins the 3rd round wins the fight and Martin dominated the 3rd, plain and simple.
by Spyder on Apr 2, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions
Not on this 10 point boxing system; might have been that way in pride but its not how they roll in the UFC.
by O damn he got caught on Apr 2, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Carlos murked him through the whole fight except the third round did you see the damage on martin carlos had no cuts at all he should have won.
by George on Apr 6, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
i felt the first two rounds could have gone either way. condit was pressing the pace and doing more damage in the striking department but kampmann had takedowns and sub attempts. really close fight. it could have gone either way
by Phil on Apr 2, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
There should be a sudden death round for any split decisions or draws like they have in TUF
by horny for gina on Apr 2, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions
What are you talking about? TUF has two rounds and if they split each round they get a third. So if they have a close split they should have a fourth round and then what happens when the rounds are split 2 and 2? A fifth round?
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Apr 2, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I do see what you mean…just add a round because split decisions really are BS
by ja434650 on Apr 2, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Please tell me if you disagree, but The first 2 rounds were so damn close and Kampann looked like he was just gassed and then used pure heart to dominate the 3rd round. To stay on top of a guy after being gassed is not an easy task. Condit did AWESOME, but since he has the experience of the 4rth round he should have been the one pushing the pace in the 3rd. It was one of the best fights ever thouhg, both are awesome. This reminded me of the Sanchez vs Karo fight ( loved that fight)..or Diaz vs Sanchez that was awesome to
by What? on Apr 2, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions
It totally reminded me of Diaz-Sanchez! Good comparison. I love this kind of fight, back and forth on the feet and the ground…amazing. Although I do feel like Condit won the first 2 rounds (2nd by a hair) and definitely inflicted the most damage. Look at Kampmann’s face! That knee mangled him!
by Brand0 on Apr 2, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
again a case why all all main events should be 5 rounds
by Blazy J on Apr 2, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
I’ve been saying that for a long time. Main even caliber fights should be 5 rounds. An example, the coming up Franklin/Silva fight. Who knows, it may not need 5 rounds, but it sure would be nice for us fans that if it was a 3 round war, lets see 2 more! Another example would be Hendo/Franklin and Chuck/Shogun. We fans have been waiting years to see these match-ups and in all my examples they have just been 3 round fights! Come on Dana. This is something so obivious why not fix it.
by brac on Apr 2, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
SERIOUSLY,YOU RECKON SHOGUN COULD LAST 5 ROUNDS,WE ARE HOPIN HE CAN JUST LAST 3 AGAINST CHUCK
by bons on Apr 2, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Winners always feel like they won. It doesn’t mean you always do – that’s why there are judges.
by DJ on Apr 2, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions
Winners usually means you won… did you mean losers perhaps?
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Apr 2, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean “winner” in the looser sense, a person with a record of success in what they do.
by DJ on Apr 2, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
really good fight but i thought he won the first 2 rounds too but whatever put him against koscheck after he faces wilson!
by ian on Apr 2, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions
Who is GSP going to fight after Alves (granted, I am saying he will win). 1 or 2 more wins against top level opponents and I think Kampmann deserves a title shot. He did beat Leites who is getting a title shot at different weight class.
I say Kampmann vs Kos next!
by WB on Apr 2, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Condit got worked!!!! Sign Nick Diaz vs Condit, that i’ll pay for!!!
by pan am champ on Apr 2, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
Dustin Hazelett vs Condit great fight!!
by serial killer on Apr 3, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
replay- count the takdown(st.pierre vs Penn 1) kampmann earned that win now get off condit dick!!
by pan am champ on Apr 2, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
Its not Ultimate Takedown. Yes, Kampmann won the third by having to postion, but Condit dished out way more punishement to Martin in rounds 1 and 2.
by ViolentMike on Apr 2, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
VM is right…I feel as though if Los would’ve just tied Kamp up on the ground the ref would’ve stood them up but los kept going for a sub…great fight though
by McArthur on Apr 2, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Condit had his share of takedowns and completely dominated the striking
by ja434650 on Apr 2, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
also while kcampman was just laying on him, condit was striking from the bottom, in close fights like this, it should just go to who did more damage, and calos is feeling much better than kampman this mourning.
by Blazy J on Apr 2, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Kampmann did not just lay on him…watch the fight again. And what do you count as damage…is a cut worth more than a broken rib, or torn ACL. Awarding to damage could turn out to be problematic.
by MM_Eh on Apr 2, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
condit didn’t suffer a broken rib or torn acl, but kampmans face was batterd what do you not understand?
by Blazy J on Apr 2, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, this argument sounds like when Marco Huas whined that judges awarded Taktarov the decision because his face was bloodied up badly. yawn
So im guessing, Blazy J wants to see fights instantly stopped once theres a cut? Get cut, you lose.
by Big D on Apr 2, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he was robbed, but I do think that the judges will give a round to the fighter in a top position. I guess as far as these judges who more than likely have a background in boxing, really do not give credit to agression, strikes and submission attempts from the guard.
At least Condit has made peace with the decision and his action. Kampmann clearly won the 3rd round but he was far from dominating the very active Condit.
Fight of the Night?!?
I don’t think any fan can make an argument for the Griffin-Dos Anjos fight.
by Vee on Apr 2, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
Classy comments from Condit but I also feel like he won that fight. It should definitely have been fight of the night.
by Adam T. on Apr 2, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
i had conidt lossing 29-28
if he would have not been completely dominated in the 3rd he would have won it’s his fault
by bryant on Apr 2, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions
incorrect it shouldve been 29-28 condit, kampman did win the 3rd round but it wasnt a 10-8 round. Carlos was still very active on bottom. The 1st two rounds were def condit!!
by LongIslandguy on Apr 2, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
condit didnt get worked, kampmann got a freakish second wind. i thought he was done after the 2nd but hats off to both guys on a great fight that definately should have been FOTN altho the Griffin vs Dos Anjos was good too just not that good. I felt that after 3 rounds and not seein who won that kampmann probs won a split cuz of the 3rd and what do ya know i was right but i felt it coulda gone either way. they are both good to watch.
by JakeAnd on Apr 2, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
Glad to hear he’s owning this, sure we’ll see a rematch down the road.
by Mark on Apr 2, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
“Whoever wins the 3rd round wins the fight and Martin dominated the 3rd, plain and simple”
-This isn’t Pride or K-1 Max….it is a 3 round fight on a 10 point must system. if only one round mattered, they’d only score the 3rd round. he spent too much time on his back and rarely do the questionable UFC judges award the guy who’s attempting submissions from the bottom.
by John Smith on Apr 2, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
HAHAHA, my friend is a Condit Nut Hugger like most of you guys on here. Im sure you all watched it with some friends and were hugging condits nuts before the fight then got worked (you got to say worked because Kampmann looked like he was going to gas after the 1st round then outworked him the second and especially the third…hence he got worked). And dont mistake your self…just because he cut kampmann doesnt mean he totally dominated the first round, he almost got submitted 3 times!!! Everyone on here saying that Condit got robbed and judges suck are stupid…watch the fight with an unbiased mind. Condit lost that fight fair and square. THIS ISNT WEC ANYMORE BOY.
by greggbarridallas on Apr 2, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
carlos definitely did more damage but i can see how he lost. martin even said he saw how it could go either way. he couldnt finish kampmann and that says a lot in my opinion.
i think the main and the tyson fight was equally entertaining. they should have both got the award. dos anjos is no joke. unfortunately for him neither is tyson griffin.
by chris on Apr 2, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
condit shouldve gotten the nod. was it fight of the night?
by andy on Apr 2, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
Carlos was robbed although it was a close fight i feel he battered Kampmann for the first 2 rounds!
by jumbo joe on Apr 2, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
“Carlos was robbed although it was a close fight”
Ugh… This is what I was talking about earlier in reactions I don’t get.
“Man, this fight could have gone either way, but holy fuck was Condit robbed! The judges must have been payed off to give Kampmann the win in a fight that was a coin toss! What a razor thin decision in a fight that was 100% without a doubt Condit’s!”
by yohnstoppable on Apr 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought for sure it would’ve been a split decision draw
by DirtbagHtr on Apr 2, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
Kampmann won plain and simple. Some of you need to quit being such fanboys of Condit.
by Bill Maher on Apr 2, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
That’s a pretty bold statement. You either didn’t watch the fight or have some kind of issue with Condit. I’m going with the last one.
A SPLIT decision is never ‘plain and simple’.
by chris on Apr 2, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There are a lot of bold statements like this on here today. The split-decision ruling alone indicates that not everyone saw the fight the same way – and that it’s NOT plain and simple as Bill Mahar would like us to believe. “Plain and Simple” is the Bader fight – Fans and judges alike saw Bader winning all 3 rounds.
Personally, I agreed with the decision but can appreciate those who saw Condit winning. Like others have said; it was a back and forth battle and was extremely close to call.
What’s not plain and simple is how did this not win FOTN??? Come-on Dana…throw these guys a bone and pay-up. You’ve paid for more foolish things in the past.
by Dugout on Apr 2, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Condit was robbed he outstruck and outgrappled Kampman in the first and second round and pretty much gave away the third round by choosing to stay on his back fo the entirety of it. Anyone saying that Kampman dominated him at any point needs to learn about MMA before posting again, Carlos chose to keep him in his guard in the third round he showed he could get up at will and that probably cost him the match.
It was an idiotic gameplan and I hope that this isn’t going to be a pattern now that he’s with ACS. Condit showed he is everything he was hyped up to be but he didn’t live up to his Natural Born Killer nickname by being passive something he hasn’t been since early in his career. Hopefully this will be a wake up call for him to go back to his aggressive and dominating style that won him the first 2 rounds of that fight because pulling a Neer against Diaz is never smart.
by EJ on Apr 2, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
Condit’s statement says it all, and exactly as it was.
Round 1: Condit, clearly.
Round 2: Kampman, very close. BUT kampman on top for the most part (doesn’t have to be pretty when your on top, and it wasn’t)
Round 3: Kampman, clearly. he was on top for the most part.
2 of 3 judges saw it this way, and if they were 10 or 20 judges I believe it would have been close and still more judges would have Kampman as the winner.
by Alex on Apr 2, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions
Kampmann won, he wasn’t robbed, you guys just have poor scoring criteria.
Doesn’t really matter the W is in the books.
by DirtyML on Apr 2, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions
Good attitude from Condit. I thought he won, too… but both fighters were very impressive.
by shitleTOT.com on Apr 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t see how he was robbed how can anyone not say the fight was very close. I don’t agree with condit and agree with two of the judges I thought martin sqeaked out the W. Wasn’t very impressed with condit he was in trouble a little too much for me to be a contender any time soon. The fight was very close and IMO condit was stupid for clinching so much he should have listened to his corner and used his striking and reach advantage. It was obvious to me martin was stronger than him and condit just didn’t have a smart game plan coming into this fight. It’s funny how many people on this page seen to think there judges LOL, I remember thinking to myself I’d hate to be a judge in this fight, but the third round had me thinking martin would most likly win and he did.
by nathan on Apr 2, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
LOL I can that there are a lot of pissed off condit fans on here ha ha I find it funny and John is one of them LOL, I’m looking forward to being on here after gsp fights alves(hopefully gsp wins) and listen to what John has to say. :P
by nathan on Apr 2, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
OOOPs I ment I can SEE that there are a lot of pissed off condit fans on here. I loved Johns prediction of the penn/gsp fight and I can’t wait to here what he has to say after gsp beats alves.
by nathan on Apr 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
Kampmann won, but it wasnt an easy fight
It easly won FOTN.
Karo should do CONDIT… Once hes allowed.
by Robin on Apr 2, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
first round i give it to Condit, 3 min later in second round Carlos start to gas out, Kamp took him down and pound him up, third Kamp was dominating big time. here’s my point system:
Round 1: Kamp – 1 Carlos – 2
Round 2: Kamp – 2 Carlos – 1.5
Round 3: Kamp – 2 Carlos – 1
Total: Kamp – 5 Carlos – 4.5
no doubt that Kamp won. Carlos is overhyped and overated.
by Texican on Apr 2, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
How the hell can you say carlos is over hyped and over rated? what an ignorant statement. He was the WEC welterweight champ for quite a while (defending it against very game opponents) and then comes over to the ufc and fights a guy that every one said was gonna run right through the natural born killer, yet it goes to a split decision. I personally thought this fight should have won “fight of the night” honors, but the griffin/dos anjos fight was pretty sweet too.
by child on Apr 2, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
Do you notice every 170 pounders he fought in WEC were smaller than the ones in the UFC? that’s why he is able to hold title for a while without fighting any bigger 170 pounders like in UFC. Carlos is a small or an average 170 pounder and not have much strength as those bigger 170 pounders. he needs to bulk up his lanky body to increase his body mass to become a bigger 170 pounder but that’s gonna be a long way to go.
by Texican on Apr 2, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
do you notice the guys he fought in WEC were smaller 170 pounders as him? that’s why he’s able to remain a champ while takin on the guys who weren’t bigger and stronger than him. look at his body he looks pretty lanky and a bit small for UFC’s bigger 170 pounder’s division. he needs to bulk up his body to increase his body mass to be a bigger 170 pounder but that’s a long way to go. i’m sure he’ll beat some 170 pounders but there’s no way he’ll past the bigger guys such as Thiago Alves and GSP. don’t let all hype about Condit brainwash you thinkin he’s the shit, he had lot close calls in his previous fights in WEC. Carlos is overated and overhyped, he got striking skills not crisp but average and he doesn’t have alot of muscular strength with those skinny arms and legs. most of wins are subs and few ko wins so that shows he had no KO power but just good at BJJ and has average standup.
by Texican on Apr 2, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No robbery here. I had it even going into the 3rd round and Kampmann completely controlled the final round to get the win. Yeah Condit did the most physcial damage with that elbow that busted open Kampmann but Kampmann came closest to actually finishing the fight with that guillotine choke and Carlos himself has admitted that. Great fight but no robbery.
by MK on Apr 2, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
I have to say, i’ve never seen a closer fight. I think Kampmann won by a hair. He won the third, and the important thing to remember about Condit doing damage from the bottom is that he was still held down.
Kampmann won, in an unimpressive performance. I don’t see him beating Kos, Fitch, Alves, GSP.
by DAMN on Apr 2, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll say it here too:
Condit was robbed. It should not even be debatable.
Granted, Kampmann won the third round, but one and two were certainly Condit’s.
Condit was far better at striking and consequently inflicted more damage.
The judges give far too much credit for takedowns.
by Johnny Farnham on Apr 3, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions
How classy can he be? Hats off to both of them.
by Phasebook on Apr 3, 2009 5:24 AM EDT reply actions
Carlos won that fight for sure. He outstriked him in the first 2 rounds.Takedowns shouldnt matter if they do nothing after they take them down. these welterweight fights don’t even matter. No one can beat gsp. Thiago alves had the best chance of anyone and he got dominated for 5 rounds
by Jacob on Sep 19, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
