Ultimate Fighter 9 Finale set for The Pearl in Las Vegas on June 20

I’m just happy huggie bear’s win streak will be stopped. I can’t think of a more useless fight than Guida vs Penn.

I hope Diego makes him tap to strikes.

“if you tap to strikes, you’re a bitch”

even though BJ got his ass whooped in that fight, I’ve always agreed with that quote even before he said it. Unless a guy is seriously injured or the ref is retarded and keeps it going, a fighter should take his beating till the ref stops it.

I agree Synyster! A fighter should NEVER tap to strikes. Certain fighters go out there and allow there bones to snap rather then tap…so take your ass whooping like a man. Tapping from strikes is something I Frown upon for sure!

Diego is going to destroy this fool and its about tIME!!! Guida’s wrestling will feel like a horny chihuahua dry humping his leg.

I dont really agree with this match up. Its stupid for Diego because Guida is a step down from stevenson, but its good for the fans, because we will finally see that boring caveman get ut in his place!

I dont care what the odds are….Big money on the weirdo!

If you’re done, you’re done. I’ve been rocked in kickboxing matches where I knew I was about to go out. If you feel that way, and punches are raining down on you and you’re equilibrium’s gone, there’s no shame in tapping.

Why sustain permanent physical damage that could impede your career and affect your quality of life when you’re done fighting? To prove you’re willing to get knocked unconscious? If the fight is clearl unwinnable, and you’re sustaining damage but the lights haven’t gone completely out yet, tap. I wouldn’t think less of a guy for doing that. Live to fight again another day. It’s not worth it.

You guys talk about getting knocked out like it’s no big deal. It’s called brain damage, man. The shit catches up to you, and life lasts longer than your career will span. If you know you can’t recover in time, bail out. I’ve had post-concussion symptoms… vertigo, nausea. It sucks. There’s tough, and then there’s stupid.

JJ-

That’s the point. Most of the guys here HAVE NOT done anything like that so there is no framework set in reality for them.

I used to box competively and I can tell you that I have been rocked to the point where I have dry heaved.

I took a knee because I saw images of Ali in my head.

Scary.

Yep.

I’d say pretty much everyone here would tap if they were mounted and being repeatedly smashed in the face whilst in a state of semi-consciousness. If the ref for some reason isn’t stepping in, and you for some reason aren’t going out, it’s the wise move. The reason you dfon’t see it happen more often is because the guy being smashed is too out of it to tap, not because they are choosing to endure an unnecessary beating.

In boxing and kickboxing, a fighter can take a knee when they’re hurt. Done it myself. In MMA you just lie there and get brutalized. Think how many MMA fights might have ended differently if a fighter had the chance to recover. Not that I want standing eight counts in MMA, I like the fact that you can pounce on a wounded combatant. It makes the fight more like the real thing.

Oh, and just for the record, you guys must have lost a lot of respect for BJ when he tapped from strikes against GSP. Which is exactly what he did.

He was getting punched in the face for four rounds. Then he quite knowingly quit and refused to face his opponent in the final round because he was SUSTAINING DAMAGE FROM STRIKES. In fact, to use your macho measuring stick, what he did was MORE cowardly than tapping while in the process of eating punches, because he had the chance to recover.

I don’t tap to strikes, but I DO tap when a girl gets naked near me. I mean, I get all, NOOOOO! GET ME OUT OF HERE, THAT’S SO GROSS!"

Because john is gay.

Great posts JJ, I was on the opposite end of the debate, but after reading your posts…Its hard to disagree!

Thanks john. You know I respect your MMA knowledge.