Affliction Entertainment in talks to air third MMA event opposite UFC 100 on July 11
by Jesse Holland on Mar 18, 2009 3:37 PM EDT
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Apparently there is still some fight left in "The T-Shirt Guys" over at Affliction Entertainment.
Five Ounces of Pain is reporting that Affliction is taking a page out of the UFC counter programming handbook and contemplating a third mixed martial arts event this summer for Saturday, July 11 -- the same day as the much anticipated UFC 100.
According to the report, Affliction would consider hosting the event on network or basic cable television to avoid the very difficult task of trying to lure away potential PPV buys from Zuffa.
And the UFC is no stranger to counter programming.
They hastily assembled UFC Fight Night 14 to draw interest away from the debut of Affliction: "Banned" on PPV last July with a main event between Anderson "The Spider" Silva and James "The Sandman" Irvin.
For Affliction’s second effort, "Day of Reckoning" on January 24, the UFC answered with a replay of UFC 91 "Lesnar vs. Couture."
The UFC also went up against the EliteXC debut show on CBS last May with a tribute to perhaps the most popular mixed martial artist on the planet, Chuck Liddell, called "Ultimate Iceman."
Even the new-look Strikeforce is getting a taste. On the same night and at the same time as their April 11 event, Spike TV will debut UFC 94: "St. Pierre vs. Penn 2," which of course is now known simply as "Greasegate," thanks to some questionable tactics by the corner of GSP.
It's not unreasonable to think this third show could be the last from Affliction. The idea of going head-to-head with one of the biggest events in UFC history is more of an "F-you" than it is a step towards continued brand development.
While still in the planning stages, it will be interesting to see what Affliction has in store for its third event and what impact it might have on the fighters who decide to participate in the broadcast. Being an accomplice to this kind strategy could be detrimental to a fighter who may be considering a UFC career down the road.
Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for more information as it becomes available.
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I think this is the biggest indicator of where Affliction is financially. This is a suicide mission. It’s basically Afflication saying that they don’t have a chance of making it and so they are going to steal as many PPVs from the UFC as they can before they croak.
by RealDrew on Mar 18, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
no they are can’t go head to head with the ufc for ppv, so giving it for free will do them some good, they are losing money on the ppv anyways this way the might make money or lose less.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
good for them…but a terrible idea. Pick 99 or 101. 100 is a big deal and ppl are gonna gravitate to that. Affliction can’t offer anything that will take ppl away from it, no matter how much ppl wanna see Fedor/JB.
by Crowls on Mar 18, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A part of me says good for you for even having the balls to attempt it, but let’s face it- this is a suicide mission. Can we bet on how foul Dana’s response is going to be? How many times is he gonna call Atencio a fucking idiot/moron? I say 4 times in a statement or 10 times in a video.
by DSmith on Mar 18, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
In a way this might actually be good maybe the UFC will put some crazy match ups on 100 to gurentee buys unless they are so confident that it will get all the fans with only 2 HUGE fights and 1 semi good semi who cares(Bisping/Hendo)this is at the same level as 92.
Is it just me or does anyone else think the whole U.S. vs U.K. theme for TUF 9 is lame,also the coaches suck as well?
by NM on Mar 18, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
this is sooo dumb!! lets make our 3rd show the night of the biggest mma event in history!! these guys are idiot and are BROKE after this..well more broke than they already are
by newfie-mma-fan on Mar 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
NM…no i don’t agree that the coaches suck…Hendo and Bisping(i almost said Rich?)……Hendo is going to be a UFC Champ….
by ntvmma on Mar 18, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it does suck. MMA’s about as popular as camel racing here in the UK, hence we have about 1% of the talent pool to choose from as you Americans. Nothing against Decision Dan, think he’s sound, but Bisping’s a tool and I hope him and his team lose heavily!
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you know what your talking about??? MMA is exploding in the UK, my gym is expanding and has had over 1000 seperate enquiries in the last year to come and train, compared to around 150 over the past 2.
New facilities and promotions are popping up EVERYWHERE.
The national press is getting on board with most of the daily newspapers covering the UFC at least.
Boxing is dying in the UK and MMA is taking its place.
The UK is a fighting country with more world champions per capita in boxing over the past 50 years than any other nation. The people who were into boxing are switching over to mma.
In terms of where we are at now i would estimate popularity wise we are about where the US was in 2005.
Believe me when i say in 2 years UK will be a big player in the world of MMA.
by Nick J on Mar 19, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Rubbish! There’s a hardcore fan base of around 100,00 in britain, that’s it. Walk down the street and ask 100 people if they’ve heard of UK posterboy Michael Bisping or Chuck Liddell or Forest Griffin. I’d be surprised if 2 people have heard of them. Ask the same 100 if they’ve heard of Joe Calzaghe, Ricky Hatton, David Beckham etc. That’ll give you your answer on how popular MMA is in this country.
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
100,000?? No way, its very hard to put an estimation on it but its more than that. On a daily basis on the train or in the gym i hear people talking about the UFC.
Here is a fact for you… the sun newspaper has openly reported that their UFC page on their website gets more hits per day than their boxing, how do you explain that?
Gareth Davis used to be the boxing journalist for the Times, he started covering MMA and now has had to sack of boxing all together due to the demand.
Examples of Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe are irrelevent because they have been at the top of their sport for 10 years or so. Bisping has only been fighting in the UFC since 2006, three years, so they can’t be compared.
A fair example would be Carl Froch or Nicky Cook, do you think if you asked the same people walking down the street people would know who they are??? No.
Now i am not saying that it is the peak of sporting journalisim but Nuts magazine, had Bisping as no1 in their sport stars of the year 2008. An idication as to where we’re at.
Don’t get me started on Beckham, he is more of a celebrity than a sports star and another bad example.
I’m not saying that MMA is massive in the UK but it is definatly growing, very quickly at that.
by Nick J on Mar 19, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
People talking about MMA in a gym?? No shit! Next you’ll be telling me people talk about football at a football ground!
LMAO Nuts magazine? Are you for real? That bible of the modern man! A ridiculous example! If Bisping’s as popular as you reckon, then presumably he could win BBC sports personality of the year if he wins the middleweight belt?? The pinnacle of sporting recognition in this country NOT A HOPE! Where as Calzaghe has and Hatton easily would if he had a career defining win. Bisping nor any MMA star ever would no matter what they achieved because MMA is a minority sport and always will be.
It probably is “growing very quickly” in popularity, I’d say about 2% of the population actually know what it is, up from 0.2% three years ago, but it’s never going to get to the heights you think.
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Attackdog,
As I live in the states I can’t argue about the popularity of MMA in the UK. However, I’m curious as to why you used Becks in your argument? Ricky Hatton, I understand, but Becks obviously isn’t even in the fight game. Just wondering.
by Jeff on Mar 19, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
To demonstrate how popular our greatest MMA export is compared to our greatest football export!!! i.e. not very popular!
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
A bit of selective reading from you there dog?
I notice you didn’t respond to the part about more hits on the suns UFC page than boxing?
I myself commented that nuts magazine should be taken with a pinch of salt but like it or not it is popular with the age 18-25 demographic and shows that this market is being well and truely tapped into.
Once again i’ll refer to what i wrote previously. Calzaghe has been champ for 10 years = sports personality. Bisping has only been exposed to the masses for 3 years. No he would not get the award if he wins the title, but if he defends it for years and years, yes definatly.
Zara Phillips won that award for f*cks sake.
One last bit of trivia for you… when David Haye fought at the O2 last (i was there) it was about half full. UFC 75 (i was also there) was absolutly packed, not a seat left in the house. Oh yeah mate, boxing is definatly more popular.
I don’t know why your so negative, you obviously are a fan and your obviously british so why be so anti? Esp when your so mis informed.
by Nick J on Mar 19, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Bit hard to respond to all your points, you write an essay every post!
I wouldn’t take Nuts as a serious straw poll of British youth pal. The average nuts reader’s also into badger baiting and cock fighting and has an IQ equivalent to their shoe size!
I was at the O2 for 75 and yep it was full. I was also there for Sanchez Stevenson and that was hardly full pal I can assure you and a lot of tickets were given away!
Of course Zara Phillis won, my point exactly, because she’s well known!!!!!!! Just like Calzaghe etc. Bisping IS NOT well known, nor will he ever be!!!!! MMA aint popular over here to the masses!! Even if he won the belt and defended it for years and years (never in a million years) he still wouldn’t win. Look at Phil Taylor, 14 times world darts champion and never gets a look in!!!
As for being anti-british, I dont have to like someone coz they’re British, especially if they’re a total tit like Bisping is. Does every American person love every single American fighter who’s ever set foot in the octagon!
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
?? I didn’t ask ‘why don’t you like michael bisping’ i asked why are you so against UK mma?
Phil Taylor hasn’t won it because 80% of the pro darts circit are from the UK. Its like snooker, they have to disregard it as it is not truely a ‘world’ stage.
If Phil Taylor won it one year then it would be for that years performance so why not give it to James Wade when he wins next year or whoever.
Zara Phillips well known eh? Erm, those same people in the street wouldn’t agree. Without googling i bet you (as a sports fan at that) can’t name her event and what she won. She is not a big name in British sports and she won it, so could bisping.
95 was a terrible card, that was why it wasn’t packed.
I think we are going round and round in circles and are going to have to agree to disagree.
by Nick J on Mar 19, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Zara Phillips is a three day eventer is she not? You’re right I dont know what she won, some kind of World Championships more than likely. 90% of British people will know who Zara Phillips is and what sport she does as you well know but only 1% will know who Michael Bisping is and what he does!
Phil Taylor’s won 14 world titles!!!!!! My point is he’s a british multiple time world champion and one of our greatest ever sportsmen but never gets a look in. Why would James Wade win for being world champion once???
Maybe the David Haye card was terrible too?
If MMA is so popular with the Nuts crowd, how come the viewing figures on nuts TV were so pathetic for cage rage shows? Under 8000 i heard? I know its cage rage and not the cream of the crop, but surely if there are sooooooooo many MMA fans in this country, you’d think people would be grateful for any kind of MMA fix and the viewing figures would be higher?? We’re not exactly overwhelmed with coverage. I think we will have to agree to disagree.
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Without wanting to sound like a dog trying for a last yap here goes…
My Phill Taylor/Wade example was born out of the point that the sports personality is for a years perfomance not a career. So Taylors 14 titles are irrelevent, its what he did in one calender year.
Zara Phillips is known because she is royalty and goes out with Mike Tindall not for her sporting achivements.
All boxing ‘cards’ are terrible but the main event featured the best British Heavyweight fighter since Lewis and still didn’t sell.
You answered your own question, Cage Rage is rubbish and besides it is hidden away on a random (187 or something) channel on sky. If it was on terrestrial tv the ratings would be much better.
I’m done, rowing with you got me through a days work so for that i suppose i thank you!!!
by Nick J on Mar 19, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but it was Nuts TV, wouldn’t they have advertised it in their nuts magazine if it was soooooooooo popular with the 18 to 25 demographic??? Cage Rage was crap but I still watched it coz it was MMA and there’s prescious little of it on UK tv. Why do you think it’s not on terrestrial TV, there’s no demand for it in this country, the ratings would be appauling, because the Sport is not that big and never ever will be!!!! I rest my case!
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, they’re going to get destroyed if they try to do this. For those saying Affliction could air it on free TV…I don’t think so. How would they afford their rediculously expensive fighter salaries without PPV?
by RedDog on Mar 18, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
with out ppv? they haven’t made any money with the ppv they would probally get more from the network than they have made failling at ppv’s.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If They wanted to go out with a bang then they should have partnered with Strikeforce for one deal and use the CBS connection to feature Fedor on national TV. Instead they decide to fizzle out and still get screwed out of sponsorship in the UFC. Weak a$$ gameplan from beginning to end.
by NameNotRequired on Mar 18, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Roy, what network that is worth a darn would want to pick up the Affliction event to go head to head with the UFC? And by the way, how did Elite XC do with CBS?
by RedDog on Mar 20, 2009 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions
This makes no sense! When the UFC runs counter programming it’s in an attempt to run their competition out of business. It’s not possible for Affliction to do that to the UFC so this is childish tit for tat. Afflictions goal has to be “sustain profits and increase fan base by filling in gaps in UFC programming” I’m itching for some fights right now since we have to wait until April. I’d buy an affliction pay-per-view this weekend if they had one.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Mar 18, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the only network deal they have is with HD-Net, and I don’t think HD-Net is available to most people. I know I don’t have it, nor does anyone I know.
Even if it is free, I would still rather pay for UFC 100. The only fight that Affliction can even put together that interests me is Fedor vs. Barnett, and that isn’t gonna keep me from watching UFC 100. I can always watch the Fedor fight on the net later on.
This is possibly the dumbest thing that Affliction can do, and would finish them off for sure. I enjoyed the second ppv that Affliction put on, so I hope they don’t go through with it, and try to hang on a bit longer.
by naturalshadow on Mar 18, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing will ever make me buy a affake-tion ppv ever!
the ufc will always be around and will always be #1
even if you hate dana – you will still be watching the ufc when it goes UFC 200!!
by mikeybear on Mar 19, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
damn….i guess the fight between the UFC and Affliction is a 2 way street!
Kudos to Affliction. Im an MMA fan, not a UFC fan. I go where the fights are!!
P.S.
SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY!!!
by The5thBeatle on Mar 18, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
affliction is never guna be better than ufc ufc has all the best fighters. im just a mma fan but the ufc is the main organisation. i go where the fights are but there always in the ufc or end up in the uf…. PS I DO SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY :)
by charlie on Mar 18, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah maybe the heavyweight is kinda close but it still goes to ufc even with fedor at affliction( i think anyway) so ufc gets my vote.
SMOKED SALMON THE OTHER DAY!!
by ruan-fiy on Mar 18, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol at McArthur.
To 5th Beatle, that said. Can Affliction offer a fight that competes with UFC 100? I think the majority of us on here are MMA fans (not just UFC fans). However, the only fight that Affliction can offer that even remotely competes directly with UFC 100 is Fedor/Barnett. That said, I’ll just watch it later in the net.
I really wish Affliction would reconsider this and offer Affliction 3 at another time.
by Jeff on Mar 19, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen to that 5th Beatle! Smoke ’em all!
by The Negation on Mar 18, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe its lasted this long any bets to see how long they last?
by Milk on Mar 18, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Milk, I’ll go with about two weeks after they try to go head to head with UFC 100.
by RedDog on Mar 18, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet, this will piss off Dana, and hopefully get him to add some fights to 100 that will make it live up to the hype. It’s a great card so far, but not “make you wanna slap your momma” good. Penn/Florian would cement it as the greatest card ever, but right now, 94 is still better than the fights announced so far.
by Josh H. on Mar 18, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
They NEED Penn/Florian on this card. If not when will BJ fight next?!?! 101 is Couture-Nog, 102 SHOULD be Silva vs Okami and 103 Machida/Evans vs Rampage. Maybe put it as a co-headliner for 102? Rampage sells enough by himself and 101 has Forrest not too so thats good. Okami deserves his shot!! (if he wins in May).
by WB on Mar 18, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ wants to fight in August. And this time he is gonna go to the death.
by NameNotRequired on Mar 18, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol. Is he definitely going to the death this time? And not quit on his stool like the gutless coward we all knew he was!
by attakdog on Mar 19, 2009 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions
They are basically doing the UFC a favor. UFC was going to counter program their 3rd show anyways so the UFC is actually saving money by not having to do it a different day. LMAO! :D
Who was dumb enough to come up with this? :O
by Natas on Mar 18, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I promise you that I will end up watching this instead of UFC 100.
on July 12th or 13th.
I’ll be at UFC 100 and I’m sure Tom Attencio will too. It’s their best chance to piddle shirts at the first ever 2-day UFC Expo. Apparently Tom is not a good candidate for the Celebrity Apprentice….cause pretty soon, he’ll be F@#$# fired.
by B.J Pennzoil on Mar 18, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you really going?Man I have to go to hopfully got the money in the bank to keep things good if i go.
does anyone know more details about this fn expo?is there training with UFC Fighters?
by NM on Mar 19, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
WAR AFFLICTION!!!! This would be so gREAT!!! I really hope they have the stones to do this. Dana White will go berserk!
Fedor vs. Barnett the same night as UFC 100…greatest day in mma history!
by john on Mar 18, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
prefect phil had brought this up before with the other org contering the ufc with free programing, its perfect fedro for free.and afflcition might as well not go the ppv route its not working for them yet and this will get there name out there more.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta give Atencio some props for having the balls to do this and stick it to Dana. I doubt it will affect the UFC but it will mean there is an option for people who dont wanna pay for the UFC card and see a quality card for free.
I will be watching UFC 100 for free anyway (here in the UK) so I hope Bravo gets to air Affliction live then I can can record that or just wait and download it the following day as it will be about 6 in the morning here anyway when the UFC card finishes and I’ll more than likely be too hammered to stay up!
by Ca$z on Mar 18, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
affliction really only has a couple good fighters, its good its not ppv because im not interested in seeing the same guys round robin with fedor. with only one interesting fight(albeit a very very interesting one), i wouldnt have bought it
by connor on Mar 18, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No way, I’ll be dropping my $$$ on UFC 100; this is a total kamikaze, Atencio must feel like a chinese jet pilot right about now.
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I will pay to watch UFC 100 and DVR the Affliction event if it is on cable.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Mar 18, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. The UFC won’t give two $hits if Affliction counter programs them. What are they gonna do put it on HDNet that hardly anyone has?
They could put on Fedor vs. Godzilla and they wouldn’t dent the UFCs PPV buys. This garbage promotion is in its death throws. T-shirt guys, I hardly knew you.
by DDT on Mar 18, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa, whoa; hold up… if Fedor fights Godzilla thats a different story pal..
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor would kill Godzilla…Gozilla has no ground game and weak striking due to his Sean Sherk arms ;)
by McArthur on Mar 18, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
despite the incredibly lameness of that post the sean sherk reference made me crack up, i salute you mcarthur
by connor on Mar 18, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He does have Sean Sherk arms!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
by Torrescantbebeat on Mar 18, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ufc 100 will crush this event. 100 is not to be missed. the Lesnar rematch is gonna be awesome, ive been waiting over a year for this baby
by markg on Mar 18, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
John has is this good…I mean good would be opposite weekends so we can watch both and not choose between the two… last July I was running up and downstairs like a nut, I rather be focused on one event.
by Robert(1) on Mar 18, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy. I watch UFC 100….dVr affliction, and watch it right after UFC 100 is over!
by john on Mar 18, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I get it but one event per saturday does me fine but I understand the excitement of 2.
by Robert(1) on Mar 18, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
y dont u bring both tv’s together, then you wont have to run up and down the stairs
by ruan-fiy on Mar 18, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
nah it’s good cardio, keep running stairs; walter payton used to do that to get in shape and he was one bad mofo.
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha stupid idea hmmmmmm affliction who has bum fighters well fighters not good enough for the ufc trying to air their event over ufc 100 which will be amazing hahahahaha horrible idea
by kingkong on Mar 18, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions
i wouldnt say that affliction has bum fighters but they do have alot of ufc washouts, and they number one p4p fighter in fedor. this organization had the potential to be profitable but they are running like a bunch of idiots right into the ground.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
no this makes sense,there are losing money every even, not many people see the events.this will get more people to watch and they will lose less money.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
how is it going to get more people to watch when everybody is going to be watching ufc 100. unless they want people finding the fights online the next day.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
the people that love mma will watch both, the hard core ufc fans will watch ufc and maybe affliction as well, the casual fans will watch the free one, remember elite had how many viewers when they where on network tv 6-7 million?
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
mma fans will watch both, ufc fans will watch ufc 100 and some will watch both, casual fans will watch the free one, remember how many viewers elite got on network tv 6-7 million?
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah and remember their second show that was headlined by a freak show, yeah that one pulled in horrible numbers something like 2 million. And cbs is not going to deal with a company that is putting on their last show neither is any other premium channel. I could see a fox sports net or a hd net picking it up but many people do not get those channels.
And people that love mma will watch both probably watching ufc 100 live and finding a rerun or the fights online of affliction which does not create revenue for them.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
also casual fans probably dont even know what affliction is besides a t-shirt company and they probably couldnt even name more than one fighter in the organization.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
did the causal fan know who elite is? 2 million watching is better than 100,000 or less watching.either way i bet they lose less money and reach more peole simple as that it makes it a good move for them.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The casual fans will go to Hooter’s and watch the UFC there.
by naturalshadow on Mar 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you mean did the casual fan know who elite was? my answer no they new who kimbo slice was, i know he didnt fight on that card but people didnt know elite they knew kimbo. And let me tell you something else the casual fan knows who brock lesnar is, they dont know fedor and they dont know barnett. But they know lesnar they most likely know gsp. The casual fan knows the ufc they dont know the other organizations, and if they are not willing to by the ppv they will most likely find a bar showing the ufc. Affliction is going under and nothing is going to prevent that, this is a just a stupid move made to piss the ufc off, and you know what happened to the other promotions that tried to overtake the ufc they went under.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed Roy. Me and all my mates will definately be watching both. People who dont really know about Affliction will maybe get introduced to them with a nice free card.
The difference with Affliction is they don’t need freak shows to put on top shows. Just good quality fighters and will get more on their roster as time goes on. If they survive I think they can do some really good shows. People forget they have put on TWO shows and have learned a lot from each one. Heres hoping they stay in the mix for a long time to come.
by Ca$z on Mar 19, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Roy,
You have to remember, even Elite wasn’t dumb enough to try and go head to head with the UFC, let alone UFC 100. All the hardcore fans had already seen the rerun UFC event on Spike so the only live MMA was Elite.
I really see the hardcore fans watching UFC 100 live (makes money for the org.) and watching Affliction 3 via the net (no money) or DVR.
by Jeff on Mar 19, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Just the kind of thinking that doomed this promotion from the start.
by DDT on Mar 18, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The tito and babalu fight would sell in itself . we all know fedor will sell. throw in arlovski and pedro to let arlovski get back into his winning ways. could also put tim against big ben.
by Winner by Strikes!! on Mar 18, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
NOpe! AA has to take this fight before he can box…unless he wants to box 1st..but he is still contractually obligated to take this fight and will be on the card…because if they dont offer him a fight in a few months, they will have to pay him his million dollar salary anyway. If they offer it to him, which they will…He will have to accept it.
Arlovski will be a boxer, but not without fighting at Affliction 3, which is great news for us mma fans!
I want to see Arlovski vs:
Gilbert
LeBanner
Aleks
Overeem
Rematch with Werdum
Lashly
by john on Mar 18, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
fedor will sell? sell what? fuller brush? avon? cause he ain’t selling ppv’s in the U.S.; and certainly not by himself.
the best p4p does not equal ppv sales. prediction? affliction tanks before this show even goes down. trump pulls out; golden boy pulls out; and we see fedor fighting giant silva on new year’s eve in japan.
by JB on Mar 18, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooohhh I like the sound of Lashley on the card. Let’s see where he’s at against a top guy.
by Diceman on Mar 18, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
AA is jumping into the Deep end of the pool a little too early, not everyone can pull a Brock Lesnar and beat top guys right off the bat
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
above comment refers to Lashley fighting AA *
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
winner by strikes… fedor is not a draw many people dont even know him in america and he has never been on promoted right by affliction, with his skills he could be a huge star with the right company behind him but as of now he is not a draw, when he headlined the last two afflictions i dont think either one generated more than 100,000 ppv buys.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I would give him better chance’s of drawing a big audience after the HBO special; I’m sure that garnered quite a bit of interest, then he delivers a 1st rd KO; albeit not the most stunning performance, but a KO none the less.
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
matt
To your average mma fan or a new fan they may now know fedor, but to true fans who have been watching the sport and know a little something about it they would want to see fedor fight. he is without question one of the greats of mma right now!
by Winner by Strikes!! on Mar 19, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Will Tito even be ready to fight in July? I thought he wasn’t returning to full contact until June.
by Jeff on Mar 19, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
basically the same guys that are on every affliction card, they have no depth they feed us nothing but the same fighers everytime.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That is about the dum*est idea I have ever heard. No wonder these id*ots will go under.
by BNF on Mar 18, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
if they are going under anyways…might as well go down swinging
by McArthur on Mar 18, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
This is more like going down kicking yourself in the nuts.
by DDT on Mar 18, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t know about that, if they get it on a network the network would pay them something instead of losing a ton going ppv they give it for free to the fans they get some money from the network and don’t lose as much.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see if they countered the Rampage/Jardine card or some card like that. I would have thought that was a smart decision, but to counter UFC 100 is a foo!ish move IMO. American’s don’t care about Fedor, but they do care about Brock. At least they should be both ready to fight at the same time if Fedor decides to come to the UFC and fight. :)
by BNF on Mar 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
roy had a good point though…if Affliction 3 was free it might ruffle a few more feathers
by McArthur on Mar 18, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree bnf going after ufc 100 is a bit ballsy they should have went after a weaker card and i could see a ton of people not ordering the event, but with affliciton for free they will still watch it at least yeah alot of people will order ufc100 but they will lose a couple i think.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
elite xc recieved a network tv deal and they ended up $50 million in debt. The network that they might end up will not payout a large sum of money to an unproven company especially when it is most likely a one and done deal. Affliction thought that if they just threw large sums of money to the ufc washouts they could take over, but boy did they think wrong. They basically has no advertising I dont see commercials on espn for upcoming fight cards i dont see their fighters on the best damn sports show and if you dont get your product out to the public your not going to succeed in the entertainment business because if people dont know you and what you are about they will not pay to watch you and they most likely wont watch you at all.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
lol…I agree…UFC 100 is gonna be huge, an epic event…and Affliction wants to compete with this? Game over Affliction!
I thought Tom had better business sense.
by anom on Mar 18, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Tom’s just a shirt guy. Anybody could sell shirts. but in Tom’s case, he chewed off more than he could swallow.
by The Negation on Mar 18, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
well if they think its their last event, might as well, good for them. i will, however be in vegas at the mandalay bay on july 11th watching UFC 100 and then will watch the Affliction show when i get back.
by nameless on Mar 18, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions
what TV network would air this counter to UFC PPV? NON !!
by Salatious on Mar 18, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
so you think that HDNET should just show nothing at all??? Prelims will be on HDNet and the rest will also be PPV just like when they went against the UFC on Spike…but this time…its UFC 100…maybe this will force Dana to beef up an already HUGE card
by McArthur on Mar 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it will do much but force Fedor to fight in the UFC; which is a good thing; or he can go back to Japan I guess… This is a last ditch effort; there’s no way their live show is going head to head with UFC 100 live, when replays of past UFC’s and free fight night UFC’s are already putting a dent in their business. I’m not a marketing/advertising guy; so maybe I just don’t get it; but it doesn’t seem like a good move to me… But maybe it’s a stealth move ninja tactic; they’ll be sitting there pitching about going head to head with UFC 100, then about 2-3 weeks out, switch the date and try to catch Dana off guard.
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking all those thoughts as well, O damn, well put.
by RedDog on Mar 18, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yea and when they are going out and saying oh we are competeting with ufc 100 and going head to head with them all they are doing is giving free advertising to the ufc, this is a stupid marketing move. If anything the extra attention will help the ufc.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
So matt, I guess “stealth move ninja tactic” wasn’t an indication as to the seriousness of that last statement?? = /
by O damn he got caught on Mar 19, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
It wouldnt make sense to show it on HDNET as all major tv providers dont offer HDNET (comcast specifically). If they are doing it to hurt the UFC putting it on a network that is in very few homes is not the way to go.
by fokman on Mar 18, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is exactly why they will do it. These guys have been complete idiots from the get go.
by DDT on Mar 18, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i wish UFC would do the prelims on Spike. i hate waiting 4 months to see them on DVD.
by Salatious on Mar 18, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
ha ha this pretty sweet. Let them air it for free on cable or whatever everyone will just PVR or TIVO it and still watch UFC 100 live. Either way for MMA fans it will be a win win ..LOL
by curt on Mar 18, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
nothing wrong with that, at lease more people would probally watch it and get there name out there more.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
affliction is making a bad choice but hey if the dont want any person watching their last show then they are making the right choice.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
I think this is a great idea, drop the price down 10 dollars and having Fedor/Barnett could potentially steal quite a few buys away from the UFC. I know it was never mentioned about dropping the price, but personally I think they should think about it, could possible be their only attempt at really stealing any buys. It would take hell of a card to have fans not watch UFC 100.
Ill buy the cheaper one and live stream the other one!
by mmanutZ on Mar 18, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
affliction is trying to get a deal to have it on cable so it is free to compete against the ufc PPV
by horny for mma on Mar 18, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
the plan is free, not ppv. and i think it is great.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
roy I told you not to think it doesn’t work for you.
by Puck Head on Mar 18, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a Great idea I have been to many UFC events and have ordered every payper view they ever had but it’s getting a little out of controll with pay per views every month. I will try and continue to order all of the fights definitely UFC 100 but times are not as good as they use to be and the cards are not what they once were. The more competion Affliction, Strikeforce the better, free fights for us the fans. well we do pay for cable so it isn’t free but close enough
by Mike on Mar 18, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
the cards are not what they once were? Are afflictions better, you get fedor headlining every card and then the rest is filled out with ufc washouts. Affliction gives us the younger less talented lauzon the ufc gives us the better lauzono. Affliction gives us jay hieron the ufc gives a gsp. affliction gives us matt lindland the ufc gives us anderson silva. affliction gives us babalu the ufc gives us rashad evans. affliction gives us fedor the ufc gives us randy couture.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt, You dont have to respond to everyone who supports Affliction to give your biased opinion…just a couple of comments here and there and people get your message just fine.
Affliction has some great fighters and their last card was awesome. Entertaining from beginning to end. I dont usually watch cards more than a couple of times unless I go back to watch individual fights but I have watched that card multiple times. For anyone who wishes to deprive me and other fans the chance to see more quality fights courtesy from Affliction should not be allowed to call themselves a fan of MMA.
by Ca$z on Mar 19, 2009 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I also heard Dana will have a two week blog for 100 AND another prime time for EACH title fight
by McArthur on Mar 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
F the blog, but 2 Prime Times is awesome! I will just have to fast forward though the parts where GSP is dancing to G-A-Y French rap. :)
by BNF on Mar 18, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the blogs,, I like seeing the business aspect of the UFC and seeing what goes on behind the scenes.
by scottythebody on Mar 18, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
wow talk about desperate. but im jacked because dana isnt an idiot and hell beef up this card even more :D
by Jared on Mar 18, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
can he even really beef it up anymore. Looks who is already fighting on the card:
Frank Mir, Brock lesnar, Georges St. Pierre, Thiago Alves, Jon Fitch, Paulo Thiago, Michael Bisping, Dan Henderson, Akiyama, Alan Belcher, Stephan Bonnar, Mark Colman.
This card is stacked, the ufc doesnt need to beef it up anymore it is already better than any affliciton card could be.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
true, but i want to see marquardt-maia as soon as possible
by Jared on Mar 19, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
who cares ? I know what PPV id rather spend my money on! if tom attencio wants to have have 3 cards and fold the company, hes doing a good job
by JG on Mar 18, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
Hmmm… if this goes down, I’ll watch the free Affliction show and download the UFC 100 show in HD to watch on Sunday. Haha! And I was planning to purchase the UFC 100 PPV.
by Fugitive on Mar 18, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
thats what i will do, watch both for free, sounds great.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha hilarious. the people at affliction are absolute morons.
by battery on Mar 18, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
aw,isnt it good to have setanta and get all ufc ppv’ for free.sweet.will watch ufc 100 on tv,for free,and simply stream affliction 3.total cost,well,free.cheers,2 events in one night,will be spoiled that night:)
alternatively,open 2 browsers,stream both.however,ufc 100 will be hard to find on the net,all streams will get shut down imo.affliction should be easier.
by bons on Mar 18, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
affliciton is planning theres for free no need to stream.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry,didnt clarify,I’m in england,dont have stations that would show affliction,so streaming would be necessary.we have setanta sports which will show the ufc ppv for free,so ill have best of both worlds on at the same time
by bons on Mar 18, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You never know we may get it on Bravo if we are lucky.
The last Affliction show was on a day late on Bravo and they may be able to put it on live as well if they get the agreement in place. There is more of a chance if the card is going to be free anyway…why not put it on in the UK live or anywhere else they can for that matter.
July 11th is looking seriously stacked.
by Ca$z on Mar 19, 2009 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions
This would be suicide, poor decision from the ‘t-shirt guy’
by scottythebody on Mar 18, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
i am a big fan 0f affliction, mainly fedor but this is definitely not a good move.. ufc has a bigger fan base and ppl are just now startin to catch on with affliction but ufc 100 might just be the biggest ppv event in combat sports history.. im thinkin of a bigger ppv buys than any ufc event
by fidel on Mar 18, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
if they are going to throw money away, atleast have a lottery where you buy tickets….those seem more profitable…lol
by Rob on Mar 18, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
this is silly. i’m guessing the dude is being tricky, not serious
by quidnunc on Mar 18, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
ajajajajajajajajajajajaja ! all i have to say, is good luck with all that.
trying to counter UFC??? really? you guys couldnt do it on your own, now your trying to purposely counter the UFC’s biggest most anticipated card of the year???
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they are really trying to go out without a fight arent they, they are just trying to go out! that is really a good indicator that this will be they last Affliction show!.
by Adam on Mar 18, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Ill just do the same thing for the first affliction and the silva ufc event I will put move one of my tvs to the living room and have both events on its great last time none the fights were happening at the same time so I got to see both event exept now Im paying the other company this is great its like watching two fotball games at ounc:)
by The Philicutioner on Mar 18, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
Depending on how else is on the Affliction show, I might take that over a UFC ppv with really only a few fights I want to see. It should be interesting to see who Affliction can get and what other match ups they can make for this event. Personally, if the Affliction show has Belfort, Babalu, Arlovski, and whoever they can get from other organizations. Affliction may be in a fight they’re bound to lose, but they still put on decent (albeit few) events.
by Belisarius on Mar 18, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
fedor vs barnett for free is suicide; arlovski vs fedor for free would have been a lot smarter.
i get the feeling Affliction execs were in a room thinking to themselves; “how do we as a company go down in a blaze of glory while ensuring our t-shirts never darken an Octagon again?”
by JB on Mar 18, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
? barnett would probally beat arlovski and is probally the biggest threat for fedor.
by roy on Mar 18, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn’t matter. more people in america know barnett than arlovski. that’s what matters.
by JB on Mar 18, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
JB how do they know Barnett more here then Arlovski? Arlovski used to be the UFC HW Champ…last time i checked Barnett was more famous in Japan then here that is also why he stayed there.
by NM on Mar 19, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
more people know Barnett than Arlovski? Not true.
by Jake on Mar 19, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
some ppl are retarded on here i swear..the biggest ufc ppv draw has been like 1.5 million, while the biggest live fight on cbs was like 4.5 million. They aren’t trying to beat the UFC, they are just trying to take some buyers away. I bet UFC 100 gets 1 million buys, and if affliction can make it on cbs, they will still get 2-3 million views.
by mmafighter11 on Mar 18, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
you might be the retarted one…ppv makes waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy more money than on network tv for MMA organizations. Who cares if Affliction gets 2-3 mil views on cbs? CBS will pay them shit for the rights to broadcast it. Its all about making money and Affliction makes…..NONE!!!!
by Jake on Mar 18, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt Affliction will steal any PPV purchasers. This assumes the casual fan is purchasing PPV. I doubt that. The casual fan goes to their friend’s house and watches the PPV they bought.
by Jeff on Mar 19, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I am a mma fan but vsp vs silva and brock vs mir I’ll pay 65 dollars in of watch fedor fight his boring anyway
Amore de rey p.s mark my words 1.5 – 2 million buys
by king criminales amor de rey on Mar 18, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
barnett possibly beating fedor on free tv could be something special
by nameless on Mar 18, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions
Really only 1 way to win this….
MIKE TYSON VS KIMBO SLICE
MAYWEATHER or ROY JONES VS TIN CAN
FEDOR VS JOSH
TITO VS BABALU
ANDREI VS SILVIA
If they can put something like this together the Mike Tyson VS Kimbo will get a lot of attention from non main stream MMA fans.
by MMAFAN204 on Mar 18, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
Even on his worst day, Tyson would KO Kimbo into a coma.
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
besides.. have you seen Tyson lately, he’s lookin old, and out of shape.
by O damn he got caught on Mar 18, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
AFFLICTION 3: How’s my pee-pee taste Dana?
Fedor vs Barnett
Sylvia vs Arlovski
Buentello vs Overeem
Ortiz vs Belfort
Babalu vs Rogerio Nogueira
Yvel vs Rizzo
Slice vs Lashley
Thats got my $44.95, but since GSP is on the UFC card, easy solution 2 tvs side by side. taaa daaa….
by Torrescantbebeat on Mar 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad slice, lashley, and ortiz arent signed with affliction. and who wants to see sylvia vs. arvloski 4?
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike tyson would get whoopd by kimbo tyson old and fat now I would skip out to watch a muy thai match between fedor vs a.silva but fedor won’t sell in the us until spike tv dose a spaecial on him and then all his fights and he has a couple of fights in the ufc maybe 2 fights and heel have to fight randy and then brock
Amor de rey p.s fedor is a boring fighter
by king criminales amor de rey on Mar 18, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
LOL Free is good I can see a lot of recording going on if it’s on cable so at least they will be able to say they had a lot of viewers, they better have it over seas though because they will have a hard time selling tickets in a north american stadium, even harder than their last one. I think UFC should put their show on for free in whatever city Affliction has it? WAR UFC!!
by Puck Head on Mar 18, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
What doesn’t make sense is that Affliction is in the business to make money.
We know they can’t sell tickets, so no $$$ there. No PPV revenues, but you get a network deal, there’s some dough. BUT what’s in it for the network?? There can’t be THAT many viewers that won’t watch UFC 100 to make it worth it for a network.
You won’t rival the UFC with stupid tactics. If Affliction wants to learn they should look at Strikeforce – seems like they are playing it smart against the UFC.
by UFC Champ on Mar 18, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
legendary – this will take balls and hopefully dana will chunk up the card to ensure they stay ahead of the appeal of a free Affliction event!
by Randy for Couture on Mar 18, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll watch the next Affliction whether it’s free or not. If it’s the same night as UFC 100, then my television will be on Affliction….my computer on UFC 100.
My $$$$ goes to Affliction though.
by introvert on Mar 18, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
why does your money go to Affliction? Just wondering…
by Jake on Mar 18, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
cause he is a ufc hater most likely or he might own alot of affliction t-shirts.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ever since the Dana vs Fitch fiasco, the UFC will never get another dime from me. If Dana can cut his #2 WW over a few bucks, then he obviously doesn’t need my money.
by introvert on Mar 19, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
this might actually be good now that i think about it. If affliciton dows go ahead with this, then maybe Dana and Co. might spiffy the 100 card up a bit more to assure that they dont lose ppyv buys.
by Adam on Mar 18, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
I like Affliction’s counter programming kick to Dana’s balls idea! I just on’t think UFC 100 is the right time to attempt it! UFC 99, 101 ,102 etc… maybe! But, not 100! The 100 card cannot be competed with! However, taking the country’s current financial crisis into consideration, alot of people may not be able to afford watching PPV events no matter how bad they want to! So, it’s hard to predict if UFC will lose alot sales because of this. I know one thing, they will definitely lose some!
by Dana's a crossdresser on Mar 18, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
it hasnt hurt the ufcs ppv sales on bit. ufc 91 did around 1 million buys. ufc 92 did a little over a million somewhere in the range of 1.2 mil. ufc 93 did around 350,000 and ufc 94 was also around a million.
by matt on Mar 18, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t say the UFC wouldn’t have a million+ sales! I’m simply saying they would have alot more if Affliction doesn’t air for free on network tv.
by Dana's a crossdresser on Mar 21, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
they should offer the show and 3 free affliction shirts. then maybe
by phenomenal angel on Mar 18, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
lol, i also heard Tiajuana Fight Night is having a free event… WHO GIVES A F*CK!!!!
by Chip Dizzle on Mar 18, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
you know what would be crazy the ufc might want to put more top fighters to have more ppv sells or this is ufc 100 and he might be mad that affliction is doing this and put ufc on spike for free and say its a treat since its the 100th ufc (doubt that would happen but that would be great and that would have crazy ratings!!! affliction should just stop with the ppvs and go for cable deal and figure out when the ufc events are and just put them on 3 -4 days later so the ufc cant put another live show by then and only be able to put past ufc events to counter them!!!!!
by The Philicutioner on Mar 18, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
More peaple watched the Lesnar Replay on Spike than watched the last Affliction card!! Having it for Free I think is a good idea because there should be no way more viewers will watch a UFC replay than a Free Affliction event, but to have it the same night as a UFC live event is retarded. They might get views because any one with a recorder will watch the affliction fight after the UFC fights. The hype that UFC 100 will generate is going to be insane! I hope they go through with it so Fedors chances of fighting in the UFC increase and for that matter Barnett, Lindland, Overeem and Belfort. There isn’t really to much outside those guy’s I might of missed one are two guy’s and no Tim and AA I didn’t forget about. AA wants to be a boxer and the UFC has no room for half ass MMA fighters and I don’t think Tim would crack the top 7 HW if Barnett and fedor was in there. I don’t think Yvel or Overeem but I would at least like to see them in the octagon.
by Beaver on Mar 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
More people watched Frasier reruns than the Affliction card, but that’s not the point. The people watching the Lesnar/Couture replay weren’t shelling out fifty bucks each.
Of course Affliction isn’t going to match the UFC’s numbers. They are the established “NFL” of MMA. But upstart promotions can take a slice of the pie and hopefully profit.
I shudder at the prospect of a “UFC only” MMA scene in North America. It will lead to watered-down cards and corruption.
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 18, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
There are other organizations out there like Elite and Strikeforce that the UFC doesn’t control, plus we don’t need to worry about the UFC putting on water-down cards the owners are also MMA fans.
by Beaver on Mar 19, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Affliction should save some money and release Fedor. They should replace his Barnett fight with a Kimbo Slice vs. Kid Yamamoto “tables ladders chairs” match.
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 18, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
This is a genius move!
or a pointless way to blow your wad.
by observer on Mar 18, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
Okay, when the UFC puts up a rerun up against an Affliction card it does the job. Imagine if Affliction had planned their event first and then Dana came out with the announcement that UFC 100 would run opposite Affliction.
Nobody would be talking about how “ballsy” Attencio is.
Slice it up any way you want, It’s a dumb move if you hope to be in business a year from now.
by Jrandolph on Mar 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions
Is it me or this guy a freakin idiot. You are already in financial trouble yet you wanna go ahead with the biggest MMA company in the world ? This guy must of been hit over the head a couple times.
by Neeko on Mar 19, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions
The UFC should put on the replay of the undercard fights on Spike and watch Afflcition burn. We all know 99% of MMA fans will be watching UFC 100 as well millions of non MMA fans, they will force the hardcore MMA fan’s to choose between recording the UFC undercard that will have big names on it any way? The Fedor Barnett fight will be great but to the average MMA fan Barnett is a boring fighter to watch because all he does is bring his guy down to try GnP or subs, I like Barnett but I know to many fans that think his fights are boring. We will see if Affliction goes through with this and if they do It will be interesting to see what the UFC does to counter.
by Beaver on Mar 19, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
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