Karo Parisyan suspension to last nine months; UFC 94 win ruled 'No Contest'
by MMAmania.com on Mar 17, 2009 2:57 PM EDT
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Karo Parisyan was today formally suspended for nine months by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) after testing positive for several major painkillers following his controversial split decision win over Dong Hyun Kim at UFC 94: "St. Pierre vs. Penn 2" on Jan. 31.
Under the terms of the ruling, "The Heat" was also fined 40 percent of his purse ($32,000) and his win over the Korean was ruled a "No Contest," meaning that "Stun Gun" is once again undefeated. In addition, Parisyan could be the subject of stricter "out of competition" drug tests in the future.
When news first broke about the positive test, the 26-year-old fighter met with the commission in an effort to tell his side of the story. No progress was made on either side and the NSAC rescheduled a formal hearing for today to allow both parties ample time to put their cases together.
However, it appears that the Armenian Judo player and his legal team could not sway the commission, which voted unanimously to impose the punishment.
That’s more than likely because the finding was a serious one -- Hydrocodone (Vicodin), Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) and Oxymorphone (which is about six to eight times stronger than morphine) all come with relatively high levels of dependency for regular users. They are all prescription-strength painkillers.
Parisyan has recently battled a nervous disorder, as well as injuries, which forced him out of a match against Yoshiyuki Yoshida less than 24 hours before showtime back in September 2008.
Hopefully, he uses the time off to get his career -- and life -- back on track. He is eligible to return in late October 2009.
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thats a tuff one, but he probally needs the time off.
by roy on Mar 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
f him! I could see if it were 1 pain killer, but the cocktail he was taking was ridiculous!
by kevin on Mar 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And justice prevails. Kim got robbed in that fight.
by Kdog on Mar 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Kim definately did not lose that fight. It was so boring though that I do not think that anyone really won either.
by naturalshadow on Mar 17, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s better than an undeserved loss
by sirchokemout on Mar 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know about you guys, but this is good news to me..This means no boring Karo for at least 9 months…….sweet!!
You know what I mean, bro?
by Stagger-Lee on Mar 17, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good!
I was rooting for Kim and he won… everyone knows that!
by JonnyBoy on Mar 17, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WWE star Kane beat the crap out of Tim Sylvia in a bar
by john on Mar 17, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this rectifies the decision. I had it scored for Karo, but it might as well have been a draw. To me neither one of them did enough to win the fight. It was esentially a draw and that’s pretty much what it is now.
by DB on Mar 17, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Careful Lee, do you know who he is? It will be disturbing what he’s going to do to you for saying that..
by O damn he got caught on Mar 17, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would tell you guys, but Mania doesnt let me post anything!
by john on Mar 17, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bj penn quote today!
"I don’t know how anyone would want to be the world champion with a belt around their waist that cheated to get there," said Penn. "It just doesn’t make sense to me."
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are you serious John???
by kevin on Mar 17, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
john, just put it up in the St.Pattys thread..That is an open thread to post whatever.
Odhgc, lol.
by Stagger-Lee on Mar 17, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO stagre! He wont even let me post it there! Funny how mania wont let me post any news, yet on every single thread someone else posts news, or fight announcements…but I get treated like the red headed step child. I dont need to get credit for news, i just want it posted so we can talk about it. If Mania wont let me post it, someone give me there number so I can text them the news and they can post it!
Why am I even writing this post. 80% chance that I am just wasting my time again, and mania wont even post this.
COMMUNISM is DEAD! Did you not get the memo?
by john on Mar 17, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, this time every day, the site stops. (around 5 oclock eastern, 2-3 pacific). I’ve said this before, my guess is that mania has dinner with his family! Watch, a huge jump in post count will happen pretty soon as he lets them all go through! I’m very interested in your news, just be patient, we all go through the same thing…I’ve been trying to post a Dana interview about referees for 3 days to no avail. James Ionetti will probably be writing the story in a few days!
by kevin on Mar 17, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tubby just signed a 5 fight contract too. The most overrated welterweight. Kim got robbed too.
by DirtbagHtr on Mar 17, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey bro, do you know who he is?
by NameNotRequired on Mar 17, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If John was MY stepchild I would be cold and distant with him.
But I would still let him know I appreciate the breaking news.
by Jeremyjackson on Mar 17, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish i could get my money back that i bet on Kim with. That would be nice.
by ehoglund on Mar 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mania posted it at the top of the bret Rogers thread for all those that want to get a laugh!
by john on Mar 18, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they better put karo on suicide watch, this guy has some real issues and as much as i dislike the guy i think it would be pretty terrible for his life due to this…
by brendan on Mar 17, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VINNY VS ELLIOT MARSHALL AT UFC 97 replacing injured mike whatever
by Jared on Mar 17, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow what happened to this guy it’s sad … he needs to figure shit out in his head he’s got some bad issues going on right now
by monoxide on Mar 17, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he needs to invest in some handlers so he can’t do stupid sh!t like this anymore..
by randy murders on Mar 17, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Karo looked really bad physically going into the fight with Kim…..no muscle tone, very pale, generally unfit. I was surprised and mildly impressed he didn’t get steamrolled in the fight (doesn’t say much for Kim). I even remember reading the UFC literally had another fighter on standby in case Karo wouldn’t be able to go.
My point in all of this is that I don’t think he should have been cleared to fight Kim in the first place, when it appeared glaringly obvious he wasn’t right mentally and/or physically. It seems the UFC had at least some knowledge of Karo’s myraid of “issues”, and in cases like this should always err on the side of caution. I mean, is anyone really surprised he flunked the drug scene?
by CL on Mar 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…I think he’s a real young guy (24-25yrs)and should seriously consider a move to LW
by McArthur on Mar 17, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has been a bad year for Karo. Hopefully he can use this time to get rejuvenated.
by RealDrew on Mar 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this year are you forgeting he only fought once in 08 and it was when he got ktfo by alves.
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Karo needs this time off to either recommit himself to the sport to leave altogether. cant be a half @$$ training fighter and expect to win fights now. the ufc won’t cut him b/c dana loves karo but im sure this is his last warning.
by bobby o'shea on Mar 17, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think its bullshit that it goes down as a “no contest”…karo should get a lose and dong should get a win. period.
by tonydanza on Mar 17, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no he shouldn’t karo won the fight
by randy murders on Mar 17, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, are you on the same things Karo was? Stun Gun won that fight, handily.
by GG on Mar 17, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kim should get a no contest as well, shouldnt be awarded a win if he didnt win.
by Adam on Mar 17, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its a no contest which means no one gets the win!!
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so this fite gets ruled a no contest b/c Karo cheated. So now why doesnt the gsp/bj fite also get ruled a no contest, I mean GSP cheated, didnt’ he???
by bobby o'shea on Mar 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pain killers and a little grease are the same thing? Whatever water boy. And the GSP thing isn’t over it’s still being investigated, thanks for bringing it back up, some of us aren’t sick of the shit yet.
by jay on Mar 17, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
given the fact that the grease completely helped a guy against his opponent who’s a bjj black belt then yea its a big deal. it mite even be bigger than karo taking illegal substances. Those painkillers did not directly improve his performance, they definately could have. But the grease gsp used directly improved his performance in his fite with penn mofo.
by bobby o'shea on Mar 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby,
Do you think GSP would still have beat Penn w/out the vas?
by Jeff on Mar 17, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be honest I dont think he would have jeff. but who are we to say karo wouldnt have beaten stun gun if he wasnt on these pain pills.
The perfect example is when melvin guillard fought roger huerta years back at a small promotion. guillard won via decision but it was overturned to a no contest as it was discovered that his cornerman had greased his shoulders in between rounds. HOW IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HAPPENED WITH GSP?
by bobby o'shea on Mar 17, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bobby name one time bj even shot in for a take down or tried a sub this.bj penn lost and is gonna try to make excuses we have to deal with a poor sport who is a champion not to mention,we dont need it from you!!
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did not mean to come off that way im just saying when is it gonna end.
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally think painkillers do improve your performance. It allows you to push harder without the pain, that’s an “enhancement” of your ability isn’t it??
I’ve popped a few Advil’s before going into a TKD tourney, and I feel it helps.
by UFC Champ on Mar 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should get a no contest then.Testing positive for Advil.
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby,
Melvin won via decision. GSP beat the living hell out of Penn. No decision needed, Penn quit. There is a big difference. GSP could have worn a gi and still would have crushed Penn. GSP was bigger, faster, stronger, in better shape, and had more heart.
What his corner did was wrong and the rules have been changed. However, the vasaline that was toweled off, had no effect on the beating Penn took.
by Jeff on Mar 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’ve agreed to 1000 posts just like yours Jeff…I guess the “bobby’s” of the world still don’t get it
by McArthur on Mar 17, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sick of the whole greasegate crap but i feel like everyone is giving gsp a pass b/c they think either it was accidental or it didnt make a difference b/c he would have won the fite. gsp won this fite on the ground and bj couldnt do anything off his back. how does someone explain how gsp passed bj’s guard to side control. i’ve talked to a real bjj black belt and they he admitted that vaseline makes a HUGE difference. i doubt any of you have the experience level of the guy I spoke with. look at the fite replay, gsp did not start dominating that fite until it went to the ground, where the grease came into play. im as sick of this topic as anyone else but it doesnt take away that gsp cheated and should be punished.
by bobby o'shea on Mar 17, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, McArthur. I understand being a fan of one fighter or another. However, at some point you are just being delusional. There are several Penn fans on this site that have said BJ got beat vas or no vas.
Then there are the GSP supports (myself included) that say,“Hey, Nurse screwed up and clearly violated the rules.” However, the rules violation was dealt with by the UFC in the form of a rule change and the NSAC is investigating the fight.
However, for those few delusional BJ fans and BJ himself to claim that the fight should be a no contest, is just mind blowing. If the fight was a decision or if Penn went for multiple takedowns and sub attempts, I could understand their argument. Yet, we all saw Penn outclassed in every sense of the word in the Octagon on Jan. 31. There was nothing close about this fight. BJ was not prepared to deal with the size, power, stamina and skill of a fighter out of Penn’s weight class and at the peak of his game.
The only shame in this fight for BJ, he created by taking the pre-fight trash talk to a personal level and claiming that he was coming in to fight to the death. You made your bed Mr. Penn. Now lie down and shut the hell up.
by Jeff on Mar 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
save the i talked to a high level guy crap!! so are you saying that bj was wining the stand up?
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I set myself up for that one NM
by UFC Champ on Mar 17, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O’shea What does grease on his back have to do with getting side control? He was slipping in and out of BJ’s legs all night. I could see BJ having a problem getting mission control or high guard but containing GSP’s legs shouldn’t have been a problem, or was GSP also greasing his legs? Also just for the record BJ SUCKS. What would BJ have done differently from his back without the grease? NOTHING he doesn’t have any BJJ skills from his back, only RNC wins don’t forget that.
by jay on Mar 17, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea bj is just a bumb on the ground, not like he hasnt submitted guys like stevenson and hughes. your idiotic if you think he has no skills on his back. what are you smoking? yea bj sucks, ok. for the record im not really a bj fan either. most importantly i dont think he should have gotten a shot at the ww title w/o defeating a single ww beforehand. but the way that gsp won is irrelevant. if he won by decision, tko, or submission, the fact of the matter is he cheated, duh!
by bobby o'shea on Mar 17, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A kid who steals from a sweet shop does not get the same punishment as a man caught drug dealing
by Adam on Mar 17, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep the metaphor in the same terms:
A kid who steals a candy from a sweet shop does not get the same punishment as the guy who robs the store at gun point, shooting the clerk in the process.
I put the shooting thing in there b/c I think that Karo has effectively shot himself in the foot.
by Freddy on Mar 17, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bj and his nuthuggers would love for the ass whooping of his life to be called a no contest so it seems like he didnt really win!
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was there and i could see the grease dripping out of gsp’s ass, you see it wasn’t just the grease phil put on it was all the ass lube that goulet left on gsp from the night before.
by bj's left nut on Mar 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see Karo in Strike Force. The UFC needs to let him go for a few yrs. Then again, maybe Dana doesn’t want his name on a competitors card?
by DAVE A on Mar 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe he should be let go and fight his way back like franca,loiseau them all did!!
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!
Karo Parisyan is always getting SCREWD he got ROBBED againts diego sherk and alves and now KIM!!!
Joe Silva is trying to keep karo down but you know what… FUCK YOU u MOTHERFUCKERS cant keep a real nigga down
WAR KARO your true fans are %100 behind you FUCK THE WORLD and diaz bros!!!
by Dan on Mar 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if they wanted to keep him “down” they would have cut him…Karo has had a TON of chances ruined by drugs, panic attacks, injuries, and his inability to finish fights
by McArthur on Mar 17, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMFAO he got robbed against Alves?are you serious how can you get robbed of a knockout?maybe his jaw robbed him!! Sherk beat Karo in 00’ and 01’ the first one one was a UD. and the second Karo threw in the towel!!
by NM on Mar 17, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, that’s about 10 cans of FUNNY.
9/10 for the troll.
by KS on Mar 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you, i dont see what was so hard about this. he used substances that were expressly against the rules, and he got caught. and the no contest is fair, who knows what the outcome of the fight would have been without use of those banned medications.
by bump bump on Mar 17, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL, karmas a bitch I always say. This guy is a bafoon and since his fight was so controversial the no contest doesn’t bother me one bit. On the other hand gsp completely destroying penn ruled a no contest is retarded, the tiny vas had no effect on the fight to anyone who isn’t a blind bj nut hugger. I found it funny the NSAC executive director said penn has no authority to recomend fines,suspensions or no contest rulings. He already said it won’t be ruled a no contest because because of the rules already in place and IMO penns camp is pissing the director off like acting like they have authority they don’t LOL. “Do you know who I am” karo parisyan …. ha ha ha ha tool, like bj penn= Huge tool and ultra suck.
by nathan on Mar 17, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the boys at NSAC do not know who Karo is.
by stevo on Mar 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good the guys is a cocky ahole…he should be out of the UFC
by Hispanic Panic on Mar 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m completely and utterly shocked … that Karo still has fans.
by bostommmajunkie on Mar 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I found one his name is Dan and apparently him and Karo’s mom are behind him 100%.
by jay on Mar 17, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a brutal fight to watch but I thought Kim won as well, so good for him that it was ruled a No Contest!! Karo should be let go period, he is a good Judo guy but brings nothing to the table as far as a complete package goes. For the most part I think he just brings negativity to the UFC.
by the spyder on Mar 17, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the UFC would be better of without babies like karo and penn, who it seems lose fans everytime they open there mouths.
by nathan on Mar 17, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo been training in my camp for 3 weeks, rolling with GSP and Rashad Evans, and we did not know he was taking steroids. What a sneaky SOB, Yeah I am talking to you Karo, I just cut u from my camp nikka.
by GJackson on Mar 17, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I’m pretty sure Greg Jackson uses the word “nikka”. I don’t doubt that AT ALL.
by bostommmajunkie on Mar 17, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahahaha that’s great in a shitty way. Granted he made a mistake, but he didn’t even win the fight. +The one time I met dude in Vegas, he was a dick…so fuck him. Hope he learned. That’s what he gets for being a knock ass drug addict trying to fight professionally. I take that shit more seriously than roids or weed. He was seriously impaired during the bout. I would know. I just got off pain meds. He was on 3 different types of hard shit, so he was fucked up. Really fucked up for that fight. Scrip or no scrip. A real man would have went without ALL THAT shit because getting hit by a Korean guy can’t be all that bad lol. The guys a dick…yeah. But he’s still a great fighter and asset to his company. I hope he changes shit and stops being an addict because his judo is fn amazing and no matter how good you are, your still a pussy if you have to fight a korean dude while high/numb as shit on narcotics. Last thing Karo wants to be is a pussy. I bet his head is really fucked up now. Get help man.
by notjoeiswear on Mar 17, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
karo needs to take a little time off to get his priorities straight
by shanon kirk on Mar 17, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck all yall karo is the shet dont forget all the big fights he put up….. guyz going through hard time 9 months off and he should be back within a year be the next champ baby!!!!
by armenian gangster on Mar 17, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UFC just cut him already dudes a joke
by LatinoHeat13 on Mar 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“latinoHeat” haha more like boarder hopping monkey on loose! Karo has come from a long way douchbag and if your puny brain thinks dana will cut karo you’re just delusional and your whole family.. you’re just a sad troll lol :((
by Loyd on May 2, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should be pretty obvious that Karo wasn’t stacking all 3 of those opiates just for pain. No doctor would knowingly let him stack multiple, potent opiates like that. Let’s be blunt about it: he’s using those opiates as mood stabilizers. Opiates regulate emotion and well-being as much as they control pain. Karo is in deep, deep trouble, and fighting is the last thing anyone should be worried about with him right now. He needs a year or two off; some serious counseling; and some medical help for his anxiety disorder.
Hope he gets the help he needs.
by Fred on Mar 18, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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