yeah i dont know… he was outstriking rampage for 5 rounds… and thiago has a very similair stalking, aggressive style like rampage… i could definitely see forrest winning a decision zzzzzz but id love to see thiago crush him with a brutal knee or something

Aint gunna happen. I think this is a very good fight for Forrest. It will be a good win against a legit apponent.

Agreed with Belfort_fan, Forrest by KTFO.

Silva was a lucky one punch who really made his name off of Houston Alexander. I’m not convinced Thiago has what it takes to even test Forrest after witnessing his schoolyard tough guy act that got him KTFO.

Jay K.

as i posted earlier in another thread

THIAGO SUCKS! Forest is a legit top 5 light heavyweight and thiago deserved no talk in the title picture until he had a big win. People rode his hype when his biggest win was houston alexander. If James Irvin never got injured he probably wouldve exposed thiago early to fans as to what kind of can he is.
Forest by humiliating decision.

This fight should be on ufc 100 but maybe forest won’t have enough time to train and heal for than.

why is it that the really dangerous one punch knock out strikers have suspect chins?? forrest by tko

Forrest never KO’s or TKO’s anyone? He ALWAYS grinds out a victory if he wins in his big matches.
Thiago by KO or TKO.
I also think that this could be a good qualifier for a title fight or at least a pre-title fight. If it was sooner then the winner v Rampage would be a belter??

I’m with you NNR. Thiago wins! I know Forrest is one tough mofo, but Thiago will GNP him into oblivion! And of course, I mostly go for the underdog!

Now if you say that Thiago’s chin is weak, then it won’t matter ‘coz as stated above[and by rampage], Forrest can’t bust a grape!!

jared…..t. silva is a beast….i honestly think that forrest will win and i hope he does, but silva is no joke at all. He is an absolute murderer, and i think had a good chance against machida except that he rushed himself. This was going to be a fight of griffin vs jardine but i think that this makes more sense then that fight. I think this fight will end up being a griffin decision

Forrest is going to get F’in SMASHED by silva! Thiago is much too tough for Forrest.

If I were Forrest, I would not want to trade with Silva, and I wouldnt want to go to the ground with him either. I dont see where Forrest would be comfortable in this fight. do u guys really think tHiago isnt going to check Leg kicks? Get real! Forrest is great on the ground, but do you guys really think he is on par with a brazilian Ju jItus black belt? I sure dont! Forrest punches will feel like mosquito bites to Thiago.

Bad fight for Forrest. He doesnt have the speed and pinpoint accuracy needed to take out the Terminator the way Machida did.

Jared:

Good call on Thiago Silva. I’ve been saying that about him since I 1st heard he was being matched against Machida. Thomas Drwal was the much better fighter but took the fight on short notice & only lost cuz he gassed IMO. Houston roughed him up against the cage & choke slammed him and only lost cuz he has ZERO ground game. Mendes was kicking him all around the cage till he got reversed & mounted.

Thiago’s uFC wins have all come by the skin of his teeth and all against up & comers. He’s never faced a legit 205er with a solid game. And like Jared pointeed out, if Irvin didnt get that freak injury I’m super confident he would have handed THiago his 1st loss.

I’m the furthest thing from a Griffin fan as can be but I know what he brings to the cage and he’s going to make Thiago look just as foolish as Machida did. Except it’ll take a little longer to finish him off.

Forrest wins via whatever he chooses!!!

So Machine, you think Forrest has the ability to FINISH thiago?

IMO, only way Forrest can win this fight is via decision.

Forrest is at a disadvantage standing, on the ground and in the chin department. Both guys have a ton of heart. Forrest is probably the smarter fighter and will have the better gameplan.

Only way Forrest can win is to use his height/weight advantage to grind out wins.

I want the uFC to book anderson Silva vs. Forrest at 205. Let Anderson light his ass the F up!

Have I ever mentioned how much I hate Forrest? lol

So once again the Fickle fans have jumped off another fighters bandwagon! Prior to the Machida fight 90% of the bloggers on this site were praising Silva as the next big thing. He loses to one of the greatest/trickiest fighters (machida) on earth, and all of the sudden he has no fans left? You guys crack me up!

Silva is only 26 years old. Do you guys really think that he is a finished product? This kid is going to continue to get better and better!

I will admit that this match up is a lot closer than I would like it to be, but this wont be a cakewalk for either fighter. This will be a very hard fought fight. All Silva needs to do is put Forrest on his back, and watch his chin crumble after 3 punches.

Silva via TKO, ground n pound out of the mount! 3rd round!

John, I dislike Forrest as much as you do (trust!) but I can’t deny his abilities. I haven’t seen anything from Thiago that would suggest he can take Forrest down or even pass his guard. I mean seriously, let’s analyze where we’re getting our Thiago data from; Thomas Drwal (who I think will be a force one day), Houston Alexander & Antonio Mendez. Now think about HOW Houston and Thiago ended up on the ground and factor in Houstons got the ground game of….wait LOL there is no ground game so of course his guard got passed. Next think about how Mendes was SCHOOLING Thiago in the stand up until Mendes chose to take it to the ground and during the transition from standing to the ground is where Thiago was able to end up in dominant position. After that, think about how Drwal was able to punch Thiago in the face almost at will. I;ve seen NOTHING in Thiago’s game that says he can hang with a legit 205er. I can’t see how anyone can logically think he’ll beat Forrest unless he happpens to catch him. Even then when have you seen Forrest get 1 punch KO’d? I mean he survived that monster shot from Rampage in the 1st round (which surprised the heck outta me) and no one at 205 hits harder than Page. Forrest’s footwork is on a whole nother level than Thiago’s. Thiago’s footwork is decent at best. Show me one fight…just one where Thiago took someone down, I repeat, took someone down and worked from guard and passed their guard and worked to mount position. ANd Alexander doesnt count.

I’ve never bought into the T Silva hype. Yes he’s young and has great potential, but so far has prozen ZERO that he can hang with the top of the foodchain in the division. If he beats Forrest I’ll be impressed and will re-evaluate my opinion of T Silva. Whether you’re a fan or not, Forrest is solidly in the top 10 in the division.

John, yes you have mentioned you hate Forrest….which is exactly why you shouldn’t comment on his fights. You can not objectively assess his fights. This is a interesting match-up indeed and Thiago poses some definite threats. But, Machine, your breakdown is pretty spot on. I think Forrest takes it. It’ll be interesting to compare his performance to Lyoto’s.

when has Forrest ever finished someone early?.. the Thiago Silva we saw against Machida was the worst and most out of shape he has been so far in his UFC career, if he’s in shape for this one he’ll beat Forrest!

good post rob! Until Forrest figures out how to finish an opponent, he will be at a disadvantage at 205 lbs, were all the other top fighters have the ability to finish fights. Until he figures out how to stop someone, he will be at a disadvantage.

Forrest should be ashamed of himself. He is a top fighter thats freaking HUGE at 205 lbs. he walks around at 6’3/240 lbs, and is much bigger than anyone he faces. He has pretty good jits, yet he still cant figure out a way to finish an opponent. Thats why I cant root for the guy. Also, I dont like it because his popularity gives him opportunities that I do not feel that he has truly earned! UFC has raised him with a silver spoon in his mouth.

FYI, I got NO lOVE for 1 pump chumps, who cant successfully defend their titles! AS a champ (if thats what you want to call him), Forrest is no better than Matt Serra! hahahaha

I somewhat agree John, and I’m a Forrest fan. He is huge for the division, and appears to be an explosive athlete. He can’t rattle off long win streakes vs. the elite in the division by turning every fight into a go-the-distance war of attrition. That leaves too many chances to get tagged along the way by those who do possess the ability to end a fight quickly. I’d like to see Forrest evolve to place somewhere in the middle of what was his early reckless style and his more recent tactical approach.

yes, great post john.. Forrest is ridiculously favoured by the UFC and the commentators in every fight he’s in, i get so sick of them kissing his a$$! they’re trying to make him out like he is more popular than he really is, and that he’s the funniest guy on earth..

CL and Rob: Great posts and I strongly agree with every word!

Cl: “I’d like to see Forrest evolve to place somewhere in the middle of what was his early reckless style and his more recent tactical approach.” good stuff!

if he turned into that type of fighter and the UFC didnt show so much favoritism towards him, than I would become a fan

Rob, what indication did you have that Thiago was “out of shape” for his fight with Lyoto? He was beaten up for 5 solid minutes, not an issue with conditioning. Let’s not start with Penn-style excuses.

Well for starters, Thiago looked FAT!

i agree brendan~

forrest used to be such an excieting fighter when he first jumped on the ufc scene…

but ever since he got knfo by jardine and then hooked up with randy? ~ he has become such a boring fighter..

this is a great match-up to make forrest fight an entertaining bout…silva is an aggressive fighter that will push the pace..

im thinking silva will be too much for him..

silva via 2nd round ko..

BLASPHEMY!!!! Forrest is championship material and always will be. He will submit a BJJ (shogun) and will stand and trade with Rampage, and you’re gonna call him boring?? I dont get angry often but thats some bs to say something like that. He even beat Rashad in the first round of their match. Forrest is anything but boring, and if there’s one fighter out there that I love the most it is Forrest because his heart and will is unbelievable, that no one even comes close to touching nor ever will. He is just amazing to watch and will have the strap back around his waist by next year.

not a chance Forest will have a UFC belt…he can’t beat Machida, Rashad, and would probably lose to an angry Rampage if they fought again…

word! Forrest was lucky he even got a shot at the belt, he got it from beating a horrible Shogun..

IF (big if) Forrest wins the belt back at some point it won’t happen if Machida, Shad or Rampage are holding it.

i am a fan of banha i think that would be a crazy fight!!

you are right vera will probally fight some can.

Or better yet, let Anderson move up to 205 once again to test VEra. I’m sure Vera would pick him apart. And he’s no ground slouch either, if you’re thinking Silva has a darker BJJ belt.

i would like to see andy fight vera as well..

but ive been hearing that we wont be seeing andy silva fight at 205 again.. at least not for a while anyways..

andy wants to completely clean-out the mw divison..

in the last year the mw divison has beefed up..

im sure he will want machida to be champ at 205~ and then he will fight guys like

maia~ bisping~ yushin~ or hendo~ nate[again]..

im thinking it will all depend on if machida wins?

but i do know andersons next couple fights will be title defenses..

endless match ups at 205!!

nice calling it stink,A.Silva will probally clean the div. but i seriously think Bisping or Maia will be champ im leaning towards Maia hopfully dont really care for The Count but i dnt think hendo will beat him for some reason.

i would like to see A.Silva redeem himself to that DQ over Okami but i dont think that fight will sell.

sorry tto disagree but i dont think Vra would beat the Spider.Vera looked impresive but that was only a can i will wait to see him beat someone with a name maybe liddell if he loses or even coleman.

a yushin/anderson fight is pointless in my eyes~ and i agree it wouldnt sell.. but i do think if he wins a couple?. the ufc will set it up..

i really like maia~ but i think he should slow down and take a couple more fights[maybe 3] before he challenges for the belt…imo~ andy would muff him up right now.

as far as bisping goes?? i actually agree agian~ i think bisping will beat hendo as well.. if we were talking a couple years ago? no way..but bisping has impressed me of late.

another fighter climbing back up[in impressive fashion] is nate the great.. he too might be a win or two away from a title shot..

bottom line is im thinking anderson has his hands full at mw right now.. and with machida possibly winning the lhw belt? i dont see andy taking any 205 fights soon..

~ and i also think vera wouldnt pick apart anderson..
while vera has the skill? he has been very timid lately.. anderson is not a timid fighter..

Vera pick apart the Spider?…right! Vera looked great against that pilsbury dough boy he just fought but have you ever seen Anderson during his kickboxing days? Scary!

Bisping looks great at 185 and I do think he’d put up a good fight against anderson I can’t see how he’d win.

AS much as I like Marquardt and as much as he’s improved I still dont see how he could win agains silva either. At best, he’s just the new Franklin of 185. Better than every other MW but not good enough to dethrone the champ.

Maia needs to fly out to Thailand for a good 3 mos and then take 3 more fights before stepping to anderson. Pulling guard against another traditionally trained BJJ player in an MMA fight is ill-advised against someone that hits as hard as the champ.