Remember that meeting Fedor Emelianenko was supposed to have with Dana White in June?

Yes john I’ll admit your point is valid. BUT! are Tim and AA the same fighters they were a year ago? So it kinda balances out.

Irvin went toe to toe with Thiago Sliva untill he got hurt, has a highlight reel flying knee knock out and super man punched Houston in 5 seconds when Houston was still hot….Your comparing him to Chio? All other points are valid Fedor is the man and tears people up, but Chio and Irvin and not in the same league….Who was that guy that Chio knocked out again?

hold up. Both Silva and Fedor basically weigh the same. only difference is Anderson cuts weight to fight. so yes,m we can compare opponents.

I think Fedor would literally Murder Irvin, and choi would present more problems to Silva than Irvin did.

Jv: I actually think sylvia and Arlovski were close to the top of their game when they faced Fedor. Right before Sylvia fought Fedor, he faced Nog. Nog submitted Tim, but I have to say it was the best Tim Sylvia performance that I have seen in a while.

I agree that the Pitbull didnt have the aura of invincibility that he had back when he was UFC champion, but I think arlovski was very close to the top of his game coming into the Fedor fight. Arlovski fought a great fight til he abandoned his gameplan, got cocky and tried to go for a flying knee.

Robert: I think Irvin is an entertaining fighter, but has NO BUSINESS ever being in the same cage as Anderson, or Fedor for that matter. You do realize that Fedor and Anmderson walk around at the same weight?

I think choi is a tougher fight for both Fedor and Anderson simply due to his physical attributes. could you imagine the uproar that we would hear from fans if Fedor was booked to fight Irvin? So why isnt Anderson held to the same standard?

Dana bashed Fedor for years, saying he doesnt fight anyone thats any good. Dana has always proclaimed that the best fighter on earth is Anderson. After all the Fedor bashing that Dana has done about his weak opponents, he then waste a year of Anderson’s prime by having him fight Irvin and Cote? double Standard!

How is the best fighter on earth facing Irvin, different from the best fighter on earth facing Choi? Its the same exact thing. Both are c level fighters. Irvin has more skills than Choi, but when you take into consideration choi’s physical attributes, it balances out.

I would prefer to see both Anderson and Fedor fighting only top fighters for the rest of their careers. No one on this site has EVER bashed Anderson for the BS match ups that he has been involved in this past year….yet Fedor gets crucified., Bash them both, or dont bash neither. Thats all I am trying to say.

you make good points John, sad thing is, both Fedor and Anderson are running out of opponents in their respective weight class! I would like to see both of them be LHW’s, then we can not only make comparisons, but also maybe see them fight!

John, you like many others have fallen into the trap of stating how huge Silva is at 185 saying he weighs about the same as Fedor.

No f***ing way.

Remember back to his CR days Silva fought at 174lbs!!

Could fedor get down to that???

I don’t get where everyone gets this from, just because he kicks ass at 185 doesn’t mean he is a weight cutting monster.

Lets face it Silva is skinny, stand him next to Franklin, Nate, Hendo etc and he to the average guy would be classed as ‘smaller’.

I know he is tall but when you compare him at 174 and when he fought at 205, there is no difference to look at him.

I bet he only cuts 10-12lb to fight at 185. Any more and the cut to 174 would have been too much.

John I understand your point but let me say it this way….Irvin was Anderson’s first fight at 205….not top ten but alot of people gave a shot to win becuase of his raw talent heck, Irvin vs Shogun if it ever happens would have alot of people talking, but Choi vs anybody would never have people talking the guy sucks bad! Also Cote was a contender for the title becuase Anderson cleaned out the divsion and there was nobody else big difference….but I think Leties is a complete joke don;t get me wrong…Fedor vs AA and Big Tim was great….I like both fighters not really taking any sides. but Irvin will always be an interesting fight for anybody in his weight class…while Choi will never come close to being a contender…

Nick j and robert1, good posts. Irvin is no joke, no he won’t ever be the champ, but he’s a tough SOB! Fedor could cut ti LHW, that’s it, so to compare the walking around weight is kinda dumb!

of course Choi will never be close to a contender. I wil never state otherwise…But fighting a k-1 guy that weights 300 plus pounds and is over 7 feet in height will pose problems for anyone. Fedor has some of the best td in the sport and remember what happened when tried to take Choi down? Choi just fell right on him, smothering Fedor. I dont care how good you are, at 6’1 225 lbs, its never easy fighting a 7’1, 300+ lb man. Especially trying to implement takedowns. Mirko had his way with choi because he took no risks…he picked choi apart with leg kicks from the outside.

Fact is that no fighters on the level of Fedor/anderson should ever be fighting the likes of Choi and Irvin.

Nick J: when I compare their weights, I was talking about walking around weight. Anderson walks around at about 230 lbs, which is close to if not more than what Fedor walks around at.
Fedor has never cut weight in mma, and I respect him for it because I do think he could have made 205 lbs and had an easier time destroying people.

Robert: a lot of people fell into the UFC’s marketing trap back when Silva/irvin was being promoted. Not even for a brief second did I think that Irvin had any chance in winning that fight. all Silva had to do was catch his leg kick and throw a straight punch. At least Choi decided to fall on Fedor…hahaha! Lets not defend either fight. Both match ups were a sham!

choi has beaten some of the very best fighters in the world, he has a win over semmy does irvin have anyone like that on his resume? it dosn’t matter witch one is worse they are both not top comp i agree with john though if your going to bash one than bash them both and i think it has been more poeple(ufc only guys) that put fedor down for it and still try to praise anderson.

choi’s size (standing) would pose problems for anyone John, but once it hits the ground, top or bottom, it’s over!

good post Roy, the bashing came before the last 2 fights for Fedor, before that, he grabbed ropes against Lindland, was getting beat by coleman and fought choi. Now, there is no discussion or bashing!

yeah kevin there are still some people that try to say he is fighting bums, if he beat brock tommorrow they would say he sucked too.him beating tim was good a dangerous hw i don’t know where if that was the best tim or not but aa in my book was probally at his best.

Im a UFC guy but Fedor is the best out there

John what on earth are you basing that on “Silva walks around at 230”??

No he doesn’t. Are you saying he cuts 45lb to fight??

With Silva’s frame he would struggle to cut weight anyway. The easiest way to cut weight is through muscle water retention. Silva doesn’t carry much muscle, no way is cutting anywhere near that much.

That’s all Fedor has fought after his Pride day’s is has beens and class C fighters, one good fighter he has fought was Lindland I’ll give him that even though Lindland is a middle weight. AA has ability but can never put it together, he has boxing in mind anyway now and was just cashing in on a big pay day, 1.5million to lose! Fedor is a good fighter and I lost respect for him because he has never fought a top five opponent since Pride was done, I have more respect for Cro Cop at least trying and I hear you fools think he’s washed up? fact is if he would of fought for Affliction he too probally would be ranked in WAMMAS top five HW. It’s funny how some get fooled by a record so easily. Fact is 99% of MMA fans watch UFC, and about 20% of MMA fan’s watch Affliction, The true HW champion of the world or any other champion is the UFC champion, were all MMA fan’s watch. The ranking mean nothing to most MMA fans.

puck head ask anyone in the sport who is the #1 hw, i would say 100% of them say fedor.

I watch everyting….Fedor is number 1!!!!

here’s the thing, does anyone actually want to see fedor fight Randy anymore??? that fight was lost when Brock KO’d Randy!!!

roy do you really believe a 100% of the fan’s would say he’s number one? If so it explains a lot.

no i did not say fans, obviously there are people like you who think otherwise, but i think if you ask people invovled with the sport(fighters etc.)it would be close to 100%.

kevin am i interested in it, a little but it would be far down the line of fights i would want to see fedor in and randy doesn’t have alot of time left to wait.

nick J: I am basing the fact that Anderson walks around clos eto 230 lbs, because Anderson has said it himself. I am not saying that he “cuts down 45 lbs the day before the fight”, but before his training camp starts, in between fights, he walks around at 230 lbs. Many fighters are a lot heavier when they arent in camp then the weight they fight at. Look at how fat Ricky Hatton gets.

All I want you guys to take from this discussion is: either bash both Fedor and Anderson, or dont bash neither of them! thats all I ask!

I agree beaver I guess I’m one zero% of the million that think the UFC champ is the world champ lol? Anderson at least fights in front of the largest MMA sporting event period. Belfort is the only one outside the UFC a few fan’s think have a chance in his division. Fedor need to grow a set and tell his management to make it happen because I’ve been on a few sites and the bashers are growing, I,m not a basher I just think Lesnar is to big and skilled at wrestling for fedor? it’s my opinion and I know many others as well. I hope we get to see it otherwise it’s all hear say. roy you have your opinion and thats all it is. I don’t see the great PPV attendance for the #1 Hw in the world as you put it but then again he isn’t fighting in the ultimate MMA organization. He’s the best outside the UFC and those are the only facts you can go by.

what facts are you talking about ringer? lesnar with 4 fights is the best hw? thets see if he can evan beat the guys in the ufc before you think he can beat fedor.yeah i know alot of kids and wwe fans that think lesnar is already the best hw ever lol, give it some time and let him actually win more than 3 fights before you declare him the best.

lol, roy Ringer Beaver and Puckhead are known for their incoherent and newbie like posts…dont argue with those bro..obviously they cant answer your question and just say because the ufc is the largest stage for mma…lol

gaara isn’t it past your bed time little man, your moms just left and is going straight home. She is a little exhausted so don’t put up a fit like last time.

Haha, nice gaara! A lot of peepz biased towards the UFC..

fedor will never be signed because of that NNR said, fedor is worth more in dream fighting in japan and making more money, sure he isn’t fighting the best fights but who cares? with the way the worlds turning out to be f-it im gonna fight for the highest bidder and if you say you wouldnt or critisize him for it you’re a lying asshole, there will be NO 3rd affliction show, barnett vs fedor will happen in japan, and a fedor vs arlovski rematch will happen on one of them NYE shows

I don’t think so. He fights two tomes a year and get’s paid about a million a year with Affliction. In the UFC if he won he would get paid 400K a fight and fight three to four times a year. The problem with him signing was not the money it was the fact he would have to be in a contract for four to five fights and not be allowed to fight for Affliction or any other organization, as well M1 wants to be able to make money off the UFC PPV? Of coarse UFC is not going to sign that BS and M1 knows that. The UFC also knows after Barnett Affliction has no one else for Fedor to fight worth a high cost PPV and there HW belt will mean sh^t. It’s kinda of sad the suppose #1 fighter in the world doesn’t fight for the true MMA HW championship belt in front of the largest MMA audience.

jv: u do realize that M-1 has gotten Fedor one of the the most lucrative contract in the history of mma? Can we really blame his management for getting the man paid, and owning his own fight footage which is unprecedented in the sport?

As for Fedor wont sell ppvs…you couldnt be more WRONG!!!! A year ago, I would have agreed, but thanks to Affliction, the American public knows who he is! Once Fedor signs with the UFC, Dana will have Affliction to thank for already making him a household name in America!

household name? not even close

john, maybe Fedor got a good contract, but what good is it if the Promoter (Affliction) has to be partners with M-1? Only thing it is doing is helping Affliction join EliteXC.

jv: you guys have to keep something in mind…Fedor’s case is very unique. there isnt a fighter on earth that has a following like Fedor has in so many different countries worldwide. His management has a very tricky job of not alienating any of his fans in various different countries. Different cultures want to see different match ups.

American public wants to see Champion vs. Champion fights
The Japanese want to see him fight Freak shows.
He also has a huge fan base in China, Korea, and of course Russia.

i actually think that his management has done a good job over the past 5 years of providing fights for Fedor that his many different cultures of fans want to see.

We all know he made his bones in Pride. After he left Pride. His management got him a fight in St Petersburg in front of his russian fans. I am sure that was a big deal to Fedor.

THen Fedor is booked in a freakshow fight against Choi, on nYE. We laugh at that match up, and personally I didnt want to see it, but I understand why they fight was booked. He was giving back to his Japanese fans that made him who he is. I dont like it, but I do understand.

This year his management aimed its focus on making the American Public happy. Considering that UFC has a strangle hold on American mma, I think his management did a good job of getting him fights against legit opponents that appeal to the American culture.

No other fightrer on earth transends cultures the way Fedor odes, and his management does have a tricky job of not alienating any of his fans and provide different cultures, fights that they want to see. No other manager in mma has to juggle these different things, and I think Vadim has handled it well.

I agree with John more people know who Fedor is than Dana likes to realize…

before Affliction, not a lot of people in America knew who Fedor was. Now I think that has changed. I watched Afflictions 2nd show at a bar, and I was amazed at how many people knew who Fedor was. through out the entire broadcast, about 300 people in the bar, broke out in chants of Fedor! Fedor! Fedor! through out the entire event. I was amazed. I had no idea that he was becoming this well known.

Fedor is becoming popular here in the uSA…give Fedor 2 fights in the UFC, combine that with UFC marketing and in no time, Fedor would become one of the most popular fighter in America

i was there the whole place was chanting his name

Peaple knew who he was when he was in Pride, your right that more know now but that’s because the MMA audience has grown. The percentage of fan’s has dropped though. This Barnett fight will bring it up but not for long. There last PPV lost money at least Pride was making money. You can fall for the BS record hype but more and more fan’s are realizing the fighters he has been fighting do not warrant him a top ranking. The PPV and fan attendance speak for themselves. Look at barnett a 250 pound wrestling machine and suppose #2 HW in the world? Add 35 pounds, better wrestling skills, better punching skills, add more speed, more strength to Barnett and you wil have yourself Brock Lesnar. Trust me there is a reason M1 and Fedor don’t want to enter the UFC and it has nothing to do with money, the UFC has a monster in the HW division!!

puck head your post speaks for itself, ask around kid.

roy you are special. here’s a question for you. If you really believe everyone agrees with you why could Fedor not sell out a PPV hmmm? Think really hard before you answer…. take your time. I’ll help you out, if peaple thought he was the greatest they would watch. It’s that simple.

its not that simple, alot of fans are fans of the ufc and like the product they are putting out and i can’t blame them they are doing the best job.alot of causel fans are not going to pay for something if the quailty is low(not fedor) like production and fighters they don’t know alot about.i have seen some of your comments and thought you where just a troll, at least you are trying to think today.

Im sorry puckhead, I am trying to be respectful, but I dont agree with a single word that you posted on this thread!

LOL of coarse not you are a Fedor fan he can fight Lashley tomorrow and you would rank lashley a top ten fighter. You have nothing but the past to even talk about Fedor being ranked were he is, if Cro Cop fought for Affliction instead of coming to the UFC you would have him ranked #2. Another thing him and Anderson do not walk around the same, Anderson walks around 210 to 215 FYI.

how can you say only the past when he just beat tim and aa?

i don’t understand the bs record comment puck, he has fought more champions and former champions than anderson silva has. you said earlier he was fighting a bunch of has beens this past year but anderson foght a bunch of never has beens.

He\s talking about the post pride fights bin laden I agree it’s not all BS it’s just a little inflated.

Tim and AA both got beat out of the UFC for you to put them as top ranked fighters after they left losing in the UFC is hilarious. They are not horrible they are around Herring calibure fighters.

aa got beat out of the ufc? you must have just started watching mma kid, i am happy you have moved over from wwe but you still have alot to learn kid.

He lost two times two Sylvia then hw won a couple fights against newbies are you new roy….oh yeah you are.

you could always argue GSP and miguel torres for P4P though torres’s record is better then fedors and he is a much younger guy so he has plenty more fight in him..

no way fedor could make 205 not without cutting off a limb he may look like he has a lot of fat on him but it’s highly doubtful he may just have a build that shows little tone.. no way he makes 205 maybe when he was young and his body could handle the weight cut but not now

They will be forced to admit Torres is the best someday. Its coming

I think Torres need to beat either KID or Urijah to take that next step into mEGASTAR status. He is definitely high up on the list of p4p fighters…but until he beats well known stars like Urijah and Kid, he will never be ranked higher than guys like Fedor, anderson, GSP!

yeah what barnett has is a mma record and not a college wrestling record.lol call me when brock has about 20 fights under his belt in MMA then we will see.

Thats what makes Brock a freak roy he doesn’t need that many and many believe he can beat Fedor already when he has 20 even 10 under his belt 99% of peaple will think he’s the best in the world.

really, so if he has 20 under his belt and is 10 and 10 he will be the best in the world, why don’t you let him actually win some fights first.

roy you don’t need to see a record when you understand how talented he is. Trust me little man Brock will be great when you get a little older you might understand.

And I like Barnett! Any one that has read my post know I love the MMA fighters with a wrestling back ground. Wrestling is a huge advantage in MMA being a wresler myself I understand what advantages they have and positioning they are trying to get when they are fighting. Barnett,GSP,Hughes & Couture to name a few.

They lost in the UFC besides Barnett who was doing roids at the time. Those guy’s would not be the champion of the UFC if they were in the UFC today. I can’t say anything about Barnett besides he was stupid for doing roids if he never did them he would still might be in the UFC.

aa only lost to tim and was not cut he left, tim lost to only top guys.and alot of ufc fighters have or do use roids and are still there, they should have never let barnett go.

I don’t know if it was 100% UFC’s choice I think they had to suspend in for a year so he had the opportunity to fight for Pride during that time as well as wrestle were the fans treat him like god along with big Sapp.

roy is that all you can come up with when someone likes Brock. When the other guy brings up facts and opinions all you got is WWE. Gou to you tube search for Brocks all access training video on spike check it out you might learn something.

but first make sure you get your homework done little man.

yeah, but Fedor’s signing bonus divided by 3 fights makes him the highest paid mma fighter!

seen them, i hope you don’t think thats all he got paid.
ask your mom

there you have it puck, fedor is the highest paid mma fighter.

shut up roy. Kevin what is his signing bonus. and he only fights twice a year? Kevin do you know the other fighter bonus? Does AA have a bonus? You have to admit AA 1.5 is a little mind blowing? Don’t mind roy he’s young and still learning the ropes.

I’m sorry for my little bud roy guy’s he posts before he thinks most or the time, once in awhile he will have something good to say. roy please stay in school bud.