UFC 97 results and LIVE fight coverage for 'Redemption'
by DrubySunshine on Mar 14, 2009 10:58 PM EDT
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UFC 97: "Redemption" is set to go off TONIGHT (April 18) from the Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
The pay-per-view (PPV) offering features middleweight champion Anderson Silva, putting his 185-pound title on the line against number one division contender, Thales Leites. In the co-main event, Mauricio Rua — fresh off his less-than-thrilling victory over Mark "The Hammer" Coleman at UFC 93 — will challenge former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell.
MMAmania.com will provide LIVE blow-by-blow, round-by-round coverage of all the action, beginning with the 10 p.m. ET PPV telecast. In addition, up-to-the-minute quick results of the under card action will begin to flow earlier around 7:30 p.m. ET.
Many of our readers check-in before, during and after the PPV broadcast to share their thoughts on the action. Therefore, feel free to leave a comment or 10 before you leave and chat with many of our readers during the show — it always turns out to be a great discussion.
Keep in mind that we will also be the spot for the latest news, recaps and post-fight analysis after "Redemption."
Without further delay, see below for the latest UFC 97 results. (Note: This will go from the bottom up; therefore, scroll toward the bottom for the latest detailed round-by-round action!)
UFC 97 QUICK RESULTS:
Anderson Silva defeats Thales Leites via Unanimous Decision
Mauricio Rua defeats Chuck Lidell via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
Cheik Kongo defeats Antoni Hardonk via TKO (Strikes) Round 2
Luis Banta Cane defeats Steve Cantwell via Unanimous Decision
Krzysztof Soszynski defeats Brian Stann via Submission (Kimura) Round 1
Sam Stout defeats Matt Wiman via Unanimous Decision
Denis Kang defeats Xavier Foupa-Pokum via unanimous decision
Nate Quarry defeats Jason MacDonald via technical knockout (strikes) in round one
Ed Herman defeats David Loiseau via unanimous decision
Mark Bocek defeats David Bielkheden via submission (rear naked choke) in round one
TJ Grant defeats Ryo Chonan via split decision
Eliot Marshall defeats Vinny Magalhaes via unanimous decision
UFC 97 BLOW-BY-BLOW LIVE MAIN CARD COMMENTARY:
Druby here
UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites (185-pound limit)
Round one: One minute gone by and literally no action yet just dancing. Leites tries for a flying knee but nothing. 2 minutes and not one punch thrown. Jab from Silva. Inside leg kick from Leites and Leites goes for a head kick. Body shot from Silva. Silva with a uppercut, then lands a good sweep kick. Leites falls. Leites pulls half guard and is going for the take down, Silva with a good punch but Leites now clinched against the fence. Thats the bell, horrible action. Extremely boring, you have to give it to Leites b/c of the brief take attempt.
Round two: Inside leg kick from Leites. Head kick from Silva missed and Leites capitalizes with a take down. Silva with half guard. Silva to full guard now. Silva using a body triangle. Silva now working good elbows from the bottom. Silva scrambles to his feet. Body kick from Leites. Leg kick from Silva. The crowd is booing loud as can be and rightfully so. Id have to give that round to Leites again for his take down, but up to this point this is a painfully boring fight.
Round three: Good inside leg kick from Leites. Nice right from Leites. Leites falls to the ground and from a poke in the eye but the ref is not doing anything. Leites just laying on his back. Silva now chasing Leites around. Leites with a shot and Silva sprawls out. Silva with kicks to the thigh. Leg kick from Silva. Another leg kick from Silva. Leg kick from Silva. Body kick from Silva. Right from Leites. Leites for the 3rd time in a row literally falls to his back once against the cage to avoid having to strike. SICK kick to the knee from Silva and then a switch kick to the face. Silva now lands a good combo and is slowly picking up the pace. Good right from Silva then a leg kick. Leg kick from Silva. Leites with a lazy take down and falls and seems content to just lay on the floor. Thats the bell and that round goes to Silva for sure. Leites is beginning to embarrass himself.
Round four: Kick to the knee from Silva. Two more front kicks to the knee by Silva. Another kick to the knee from Spider. Leg kick snaps from Silva. Another leg kick. Nice right from Silva. Head kick from Silva another knee kick from Silva. Another stiff kick to the knee. Leites is content to just not engage what so ever. Leg kick from Silva and Leites looks to shoot but Silva sprawls out. Silva playing chase now. Leites shoots and misses and proceeds to lay on his back. Thats the bell and another round to Silva, but this is a miserable fight to watch. The fans are booing and for good reason. This is a mind numbingly boring fight thus far.
Round five: Leg kick from Silva. Leg kick from Silva. Leites throws a right then shoots but Silva tosses him off. Leites shoots again and Silva spins out and now is on top throwing some punches. Leites is bleeding from the nose now. Side kick to the body from Silva. The crowd starts chanting "bullshit" and loud and then they follow is up with the usual Canadian GSP chants. Knee kick from Silva. Leites shoots and nothing. Leites with a lunging right and misses and lays on the ground. Thats the bell, and Silva definitely won but it was a painful fight to watch. Leites refused to exchanges and collapsed to his back at any sign of trouble and Silva seemed content to dance, shuck, and jive throughout the contest to grab the win. Horrible main event from a viewers prospective, but in the big scheme of things Silva did win and is still champion and is his camp im sure thats the only thing that matters.
Final result: Anderson Silva defeats Thales Leites via Unanimous Decision
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Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio Rua (205-pound limit)
Round one: Leg kick from Rua. Chuck lands a big right and then left and another right. Chuck with a combo and Rua lands a good right. Rua with an overhand right and then leg kick and Chuck lands a right. Right from Rua. Chuck misses with a right and then Shogun takes Chuck down and Lidell scrambles and Rua goes for a leg lock. Lidell again tries to get to his feet and now their clinched against the fence. Nice right from Lidell. Chuck with a right and then shucks off a take down and lands another solid right. Lidell now ducks under and gets a take down. Rua with a HUGE left and Chuck is out, Rua hops on top and pounds away and Chuck is out cold. WOW. I cant help but feel sad watching this. Take nothing away from Shogun Rua a great win for him, but Chuck Lidell's career might have just ended. He obviously is a shell of his former self.
Round two:
Round three:
Final result: Mauricio Rua defeats Chuck Lidell via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
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Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk (265-pound limit)
Round one: Leg kick from Hardonk. Nice left from Hardonk. Nice leg kick from Hardonk. Knee to the thigh from Kongo. Kongo catches a kick and Hardonk goes to the ground. Kongo snapping leg kicks from his feet while Hardonk is on his back. The ref stands them up. Nice straight right and then uppercut from Kongo. Their clinched up against the fence. Knees to the thigh from Kongo. Kongo looking for a double leg to take this to the ground. Kongo gets the take down. Kongo working on some big elbows. Kongo finishing with elbows. Thats the bell, slow pace not to much top level action. But id give the round to Kongo for his ground work and the take down.
Round two: Straight right from Kongo and Hardonk falls and now Kongo pounces on top and lands some good punches. Big right from Kongo. Hammer fists from Kongo. Elbows to the gut from Kongo. Hardonk is cut above his left eye now. Nice right to the head from Kongo. Hardonk trying to cause a stalemate thatll make the ref stand them up. Nice left from Kongo and then Kongo jumps up and lands some hammer fists and thats it this fight is over. It was an odd punch which didnt look to have much mustard on it but Hardonk seemed to be hurt bad, either way Kongo with another win and another step up the ladder of the heavyweight division. He has to be due a title shot in the near future.
Round three:
Final result: Cheik Kongo defeats Antoni Hardonk via TKO (Strikes) Round 2
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Luis Cane vs. Steve Cantwell (205-pound limit)
Round one: Great left uppercut from Cane. Good leg kick from Cantwell. Nice combo from Cane. Body kick from Cane. Cane is moving forward aggressively. Nice right hook from Cane. Body clinch against the fence. Nice combo with Cane on the exit. Cane with the clinch and lands some knees and punches. Jab from Cane. Head kick from Cantwell. Nice body shot from Cantwell but Cane blocks most of it. Nice combo from Cane. Jab from Cane. Nice right from Cane. Leg kick from Cantwell. Nice right from Cantwell. Nice uppercut from Cantwell and thats the round. Cantwell looks game but Cane is the sharper more aggressive fighter to this point and definitely won round 1 10-9.
Round two: Nice right from Cantwell and then Cane lands a good combo. Cane with another big combo. Nice combo from Cane again. Body kick from Cane hits it mark. Jab from Cane then a body kick while Cantwell is on the run. Nice combo then body kick from Cantwell. Cantwell with a big right that stuns Cane momentarily. SICK head kick from Cantwell and then he lands a glancing knee and then a head kick. Nice duck under uppercut from Cantwell. Inside leg kick from Cane. Both fighters exchange simultaneous lefts hooks to end the rd. Id have to give that round to Cantwell 10-9 he found his comfort zone and his big head kick seemed to throw Cane off for the rest of the stanza.
Round three: Leg kick from Cane. Nice combo then body kick from Cane. Cane with a sharp uppercut and then a good body kick. Cantwell answers with a right. One two combo from Cane. Big right hook then head kick from Cantwell. Cane looks to be loosing some juice. Big left and knee to the body from Cane. 3 minutes left. Nice jab then knee to the body from Cane. Nice right from Cantwell. Triple jab from Cane. Cantwell is cut on the bridge of his nose. Good head kick from Cantwell but blocked by Cane. BIG knee and then a HUGE power right from Cane. Jab from Cane and then a knee to the head. Cane with a one two combo which hits its mark. Jab from Cane. Cane unloads to finish the round and Cantwell lands a counter. Thats the bell, great fight good action. Both fighters looked extremely promising but I think Cane stole that last round due to his obvious advantage in the power in his striking and the damage it caused.
Final result: Luis Banta Cane defeats Steve Cantwell via Unanimous Decision
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Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (205-pound limit)
Round one: Inside leg kick from Krzysztof. Now they clinch up and Stann with a good right. Nice left from Krzysztof. Inside leg kick from Stann. Clinched up and Krzysztof with some knees. Krzysztof with a big double leg take down which was basically a tackle. Krzysztof right into full mount. Stann slips his way into side control now. Stann now with half guard, and Krzysztof looking for a Kimura but now he lets it go. But he goes right back to it and gets the submission. An easy win for Krzysztof, he looked solid.
Round two:
Round three:
Final result: Krzysztof Soszynski defeats Brian Stann via Submission (Kimura) Round 1
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hardonk is tough as nails, he doesnt have a ground game but neither does kongo, this should be an awesome fight
by brendan on Mar 14, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
U think so, I dunno, I see a quick ko, I think kongo gonna use reach to pick him appart
by phenomenal angel on Mar 15, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think Kongo will win by taking hardonk down and doing some good old LnP
NEWS:
bj penn has officially LOST the plot!
he said he didnt accept the fight in germany (with ken flo) because he doesnt get as much money overseas because ppl dont buy ppv as much
he is also trying to get GSP suspended for the greasing incident and therefore that would result in GSP/Alves fight being delayed!!
does this guy not realise how hated he is becoming… i have lost all respect for him!!
by ufcaddict on Mar 15, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ has got it right about the ppv’s, it’s about money not the sport..
by RoB on Mar 15, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ufcaddict is right. both Kongo and Hardonk are great strikers but the difference will be Kongo’s takedowns and improved wrestling. Hardonk has the better submissions but I doubt that subs will be a factor.
I dont get why so many of you guys bash the THales vs. Anderson fight. Is THales the clear cut #1 contender? probably not, but he is a legit top 5 middleweight. Problem with the UFC mw divisions is the match making. Joe silva has got this division twisted around inside out, and no one will ever know who the #1 contender is until top fighters start facing each other.
Yes, I am probably tHale’s #1 english speaking fan, but I like Anderson a whole lot as well so its easy to remain unbiased on this one. Thales has a much better chance against Anderson than many of you guys seem to think. Do, I think tHales will win? NO! but I wouldnt be that surprised. dana bashes Fedor’s opponents, yet Dana has wasted 1 year of Anderson’s prime by having him fight CANS! Do you guys relaize that Anderson hasnt fought a decent opponent since last March when he fought Hendo? In the past year, Dana has wasted all our time by having Anderson fight James Irvin and Cote (who isnt a can), but had no shot in winning…not to mention the fight was uneventful. Silva hasnt been tested in over a year, which is why I am very happy about this match up. Its Silva vs. a legit top 5 fighters.
Dana Bashges Fedor’s opponents, yet the #1 p4p fighter on earth (according to Dana), is matched up against James Irvin?
Silva vs. Irvin = Fedor vs. Hong Man Choi…actually Choi might have even been the tougher opponent.
Thales has been training over at Arizona combat, working on his wrestling with guys like Bader and CB…both have spoken glowingly about thales’s improved wrestling. Thales has a great chin, and is easily a better ground fighter than Anderson.
Anderson better be working on his takedown defense, as well as defending that arm triangle that tHales loves.
You guys need to show Thales some respect. Yes Anderson is a gOD! but THales is a very skilled and tough cat, who will be floating around the top of the division for years to come. I truly believe that THales is capable of beating every single top middleweight in the UFC. whether he accomplishes it, is a different story.
Very excited to finally see Anderson not fighting a CAN!!!
From here on out, Anderson should only fight top middleweights like:
Marquardt
Maia
Wanderlei
Leites
Bisping
Hendo
Akiyama
Goveai if he can string together wins. Great fighter but inconsistent like Jardine
If THales loses this fight, the UFC HAS to book:
THales Leites vs. Demien Maia!
by john on Mar 15, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol since when is jardine a middleweight?
by brendan on Mar 15, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great post john~ well thought-out break down!!
lol brenda~ where does he have jardine on his list??
by stinky~fingers on Mar 15, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brendan: are we having a little problem with reading comprehension this morning? lol. No where in my post does it say that jardine is a mw
Thanks Stinky!
by john on Mar 15, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though Silva will win, Leites will give him problems. I’ve said it ever since it was announced. He has cleaned up his takedowns a lot working with Bader and thems at ACS, he has slick guard passing (way better than lutter for sure) and we all know that he can hit that arm triangle from everywhere. Also get f’n Brian Stann off the main card. He sucks plain and simple. Rather see Professor X and Kang get it on. Hardonk will win against Kongo. Watch and see.
by NameNotRequired on Mar 15, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa NNR! “Hardonk will win against Kongo. Watch and see.”…yeah by eyes-closed-head-down-wild-punch technique. Kongo is a waaaay better kick boxer. He’s faster, more technically sound and much more precise. Definitely more well rounded. Punching power may be about equal though. You’re pretty coherent with your posts so I need to understand the logic behind that pick….
by Machine on Mar 15, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardonk has better ground work, guard game and overall grappling. Kongo takes the wrestling both defensive and offensive. Antoni’s better at swimming in the clinch and fighting close distance as well as better combinations which Kongo doesn’t do much. Reach and speed go for Kongo but like you said comparable power. From the outside, Hardonk’s leg kicks speak for themselves while Kongo doesn’t really use them as much. Finally chins – please refer to Kongo-Yvel. Hardonk’s has been tested hard and did just fine without him wilting. All signs point to upset pick especially nice for parlay bets IMO.
by NameNotRequired on Mar 15, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha sorry john but it says Jardine at the end of your post.
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s comparing Gouveia’s inconsistency to that of Jardine. Its the end of the sentence that starts talking about Willy~G
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Great fighter, but inconsistent like Jardine”
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha ok sorry John thanks Synyster for pointing it out*sarcasm* lol
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is one of the best cards in a long time. To have Herman, Loiseau, Quarry, McDonald on the undercard, WOW. I see Silva via TKO. Leddel via KO,Soszynski via KO, Kongo TKO and Cantwell by KO. Alot of these guy like to swing so it will be good.
by Iagoof22 on Apr 18, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.. I didnt think anyone else was exited for Hardonk-Kongo besides myself. Yes should be a good standup war…
by belfort_fan on Mar 15, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardonk could kick Kongo’s head off so I believe he’s tough enough.
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Mar 14, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardonk is under rated. The guy has been consistently improving.
I do expect Kongo to win, but Hardonk is no can!
after this fight is over, I would like to see:
Hardonk vs. Junior Dos Santos
by john on Mar 15, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I think Hardonk is a pretty solid HW, with a good chin(most of his UFC fights he’s taken a beating in the first few minutes), and obviously has good standup, which is why it makes me confused that this Kongo is facing him?
ok, sure, as a spectator it promises to be a good match up, but what will it really tell us about Kongo?
We already know he was excellent standup, but what about his wrestling/takedown/ground game?
The majority of the HW contenders at the mo have strong wrestling backgrounds, who could probably take Kongo down at will.
Plus beating someone like Hardonk won’t give him a title shot, so imo this match up (for Kongo) doesn’t make too much sense….
by Steve on Mar 15, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dos Santos would knock him out so bad! Hardonk is a guy that wins his fights by size, but that isn’t gonna be a factor when he fights someone just as big as him..
by RoB on Mar 15, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if anyone has noted this or not but I thought I’d tell everyone…there’s a link on the front page of espn.com for live coverage of the event tonight. Granted it takes the reader to Sherdog, but front page of ESPN is pretty big. Also I say several people talking about it on ESPN this week. Most were completely uninformed, but Woody Page on Around the Horn was sticking up for it against some moron that described it as, “One guy laying on top of another.” Seems like ESPN is getting more interested in MMA by the day as the sport grows.
by Diceman on Apr 18, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The under card looks way more interesting to me than the main card! Maybe partly b/c I’m Canadian, eh?
by Scootah on Mar 14, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s some great fights on the undercard! I can’t believe Quarry McDonald isn’t being televised. I think Stout vs Wiman should be a good scrap. Looking forward to seeing Kang again too.
by BritishBulldog on Mar 15, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here the the LIVE results!:
-Chuck will backpedal ang KO Shogun
-Krzysztof Soszynski via veteran wits
-Hardonk will clip Kongo/or vice versa
-Luis Cane will weather the Cantwell storm
-Dennis Kang wins ‘coz his opponent has a weird name
-Jason MacDonald[if he takes it to the ground]
-David Loiseau[if he ain’t a shell]
-Mark Bocek
-Ryo Chonan and Matt Wiman[I like ’em better than their opponents]
-That’s what The Negation’s Crystal Ball says…
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Mar 14, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn man read my mind haha what about the Silva Leites fight? i got Silva i dont see Leites winning hopfully!!
by NM on Mar 14, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait for Prof X to sub Kang’s ass outta the UFC.
by MoonUk on Mar 15, 2009 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes Kang is losing that fight for sure, he can’t handle the pressure..
by RoB on Mar 15, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob: Kang is a very skilled fighter, who tends to dominate most of his fights and then makes a silly mistake and gets subbed.
Professor X has a great ground game. I expect professor X to be a nice underdog because I doubt that the American public knows much about him, so I look forward to betting some money on Prof X…but this is still Kang’s fight to lose. Octagon debut’s are not easy for anyone so chill out on the Kang bashing. He is a top 15 middleweight worldwide…lets see what he can do 1st before we start writing him off!
by john on Mar 15, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes sure i know what you’re saying, but Kang lets his opponents sub him even if he is way more skilled, which was the case against Belcher, he dominated the standup with ease and got so nervous that he shot in from a mile away and got caught.. he’s already lost the fight in his mind even if he’s out there winning and dominating, Kang wanted Belcher to submit him so he could get out of there, and he is supposed to be a BJJ black belt and a proffessional?.. his only chance is to get a quick finish in this one, cause there will be even more pressure in this one since it’s a must win at home (canada).. skills won’t do sh*t for any athlete in the world if you aint got your head in the game.
by RoB on Mar 15, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not bashing that is just what has been happening to Kang is most of his losses throughout his career, when he’s the fav to win he loses.. his roll that he had in Japan is over now, and the confidence is gone
by RoB on Mar 15, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont disagree at all rob. I guess I am just hoping that he turns it around because the skills are there, but like you pointed out, if you aren’t strong mentally, it doesnt matter how skilled you are.
by john on Mar 15, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok cool, I want him to turn things around too, we’ll see.
by RoB on Mar 15, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody going to comment on the absurd number of fights on this card? 12?
by Duff on Mar 15, 2009 2:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wait until you see ufc 100. it seems like everyday thier adding a new match up I will be purchasing that one
by dia mette on Mar 15, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chonan need to have spectacular win, if not I think he should retire…IMO too many fights with decision ending
by moka on Mar 15, 2009 7:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Ryo…I wouldn’t mind seeing him in the DREAM grand prix. there really is no point in him fighting on non televised undercards anyway.
by john on Mar 15, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chonan is losing this one. This is TJ Grant’s coming out party.
by JB on Mar 15, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
word ~ jb!!
i really like this tj kid from canada..
i have been looking him up and am thinking of laying down some action on this fight..
by stinky~fingers on Mar 15, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bj isent hated gsp chetted and do you relly think bj cares about wat people think hes rich and hell prob retire with the belt to piss dana off he has nothin to do he ko sherk who beat the hell out of kenny wats left
by gh on Mar 15, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bj isent hated gsp chetted and do you relly think bj cares about wat people think hes rich and hell prob retire with the belt to piss dana off he has nothin to do he ko sherk who beat the hell out of kenny wats left
by gh on Mar 15, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leites is a PUNK! He actually thinks he won against Marquardt rofl!
Can’t wait to see him get ktfo.
by Lester the Pimp on Mar 15, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
where has David Loiseau been? I want to see those sharp elbows going through Ed Hermans face…
by Nick on Mar 15, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason MacDonald v Nate Quarry on the undercard.
Hope there are 1 or 2 quick fights on the live events and they show this fight as a ‘filler’.That will be a bloody good fight me thinks!
by bons on Mar 15, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NO worries, a few fights wont make it to the 3rd round.
For example: Stann vs Kristof and Banha vs. Cantwell are both ending early!
by john on Mar 15, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you have ending the fight early?Stann or Kristof?
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IS anybody else going or am I the only one???
by McArthur on Mar 15, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
u seem to be one of the few lucky ones McArthur.
12 fights! enjoy man!
by john on Mar 15, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcarthur~ u will not be the only one!
i cant wait for this event~ i gots my tickets and im ready to head to canada!
i love canada! best pot in the world~ trust me!
this card is packed~ 12 fights?…nice.
all the fights on the main card will be great..except stann/kristof.
imo~ crow/herman or j-mac/quarry should have been on the main card instead.
i will drop off my stinky~picks and bets later on when i finalize my bets..
by stinky~fingers on Mar 15, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i got my bets and stinky~picks down and ready~
~stinky~picks-
wiman/stout.. = matt wiman
bocek/bielk.. = mark bocek
ja-mac/nate.. = nate quarry
kang/xavier.. = xavier foupa
stann/krzys.. = brian stann
kongo/hardo.. = cheick kongo
andy/thales.. = andy silva
stinky~bets
ryo/tjgrant.. = 2k on tj grant
herman/crow.. = 5k on david loiseau
cane/cantwel. = 8k on luis cane
chuck/shogun. = 5k on shogun
~ i also got a parlay with quarry/kongo and luis cane[8k].
thats all the action i got!
im here in montreal having a great time! i cant wait for the fights!
say word to big bird~
by stinky~fingers on Apr 17, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Canucks on the main card and six on the undercard. Come on; gimme something for my ppv loonies.
by JB on Mar 15, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell would you post this more than a month before the fight?
by Dave on Mar 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats what i was about to post lmao. better suited to post it a week before the event
by Jared on Mar 15, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if by chance lidell loses…is dana going to send him packing?
by ztb on Mar 15, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait to see Herman get his head chopped off by a “Crow” elbow!!!!
Jason MacDonald deserves to be on the main card with Quarry!
by Rob on Mar 15, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t think so Rob, I like Mac, but he’s got to start putting some wins together!
by SilasM on Mar 15, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me, it seems like it would be mad hard to string wins together when you have to battle guys like Franklin, Maia, Okami and Gouveia. As a Canadian, I love to watch the guy, but he’s not really a complete fighter. I think of him as a guy who will usually provide a good competitive fight. Some he’ll win and some he’ll lose. He’s tough and has a great ground game, but he won’t ever string together many wins in the UFC nor will he get a title shot. Just a good solid vet, who IS definitely televised portion worthy, especially because he usually fights top comp.
by DH on Mar 15, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa whoa whoa, the dude’s real name is “Foupa-Pokum”? That’s gotta be a typo, right?
by Don't be scared homie on Mar 15, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
undercard sucks except for chuck. agree about macdonald and quarry.
by Brian "Ken, on roids....NO WAY!" on Mar 15, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anderson 2nd round tko
chuck decision
Kongo decision
krystoff will win
cant choose between cantwell and banha
i wish TJ Grant was on main card – he is a very good fighter – 1 to watch out for!!!!
by Randy for Couture on Mar 15, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson will win in brutal fashion, Leites will be lucky if he sees round 2.
Chuck by KO…round 2
Kongo…unanimous decision
Krystoff…TKO round 3
Luiz Cane…by vicious beatdown…round 2
by Couchchamp on Mar 15, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This card is stacked in my opinion. Maybe not all contenders but all fights look solid with solid names in each one.
Hell, I’d rather see some of the undercard fights than the liddell shogun fight.
Get back to winning Wiman! Where’s the tenacious Wiman was saw in the Tavares fight? I thought Tavares threw everything but the kitchen sink at Wiman and he pulled out the win.
by chris on Mar 15, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Chuck wins who does he fight next? I say Jardine. If he loses he should retire. If Shogon wins who does he fight next? I say rematch Forest when he comes back. He busted Griffin open last time and faught with an injured knee. If Machida beats Rashad he will get Rampage next. Winner gets Rampage but who will the loser fight? It will be the first loss for either of them.
I see Machida beating Rashad in a war and he will kill Rampage because Rampage cannot kick and therefore against a really good kicker gets kicked a lot. Hitting Machida is like grabbing a fish with boxing gloves on.
by hatteras on Mar 15, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think spider will win by KO but hope he starts a bit faster than in his last fight.
by bispingmwchamp on Mar 16, 2009 6:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Card looks great. Some exciting fights right there.
I’m wondering how Silva will do after his lackluster performance vs. Cote.
Chuck Liddell vs. Shogun would have been AMAZING a year ago.. now I’m not so sure. Let’s hope Shogun has better cardio than when he faced Coleman.. cause that was a joke.
by Joni on Mar 22, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leites Rnd 2 Arm TRiangl
Liddell Rnd 3 TKO
Stann Rnd 1 Tko
Cane Rnd 1 TKO
Kongo Unanimous Decision
Marshall Unanimous Decision
Kang Rnd 2 guillotine choke
TJ split decision
Wiman Unanimous Decision
Quarry by TKO Rnd 2
The Crow by TKO_Cuts Rnd 2
Bocek by unanimous decision
Thales Leites earns Submission of the Night
Chuck Liddell/Shogun Rua Fight of the Night
Wiman/Stout co-Fight of the Night
Cane or Quarry Knockout of the Night
Other remarks:
Liddell/Rua to be a war
Vinny may take Eliots arm home with him
Bocek/Bilkheden will be positioning battle
Cane will dominate Cantwell
JMac is a pussy and will give up
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
-A. Silva takes it but even if Leites wins it wont be by arm triangle
- Liddell T/KO
-Kongo Tko
-J-Mac is a wiz on the ground and good overall skills, def no pussy!
by SoCalStunNa on Apr 18, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i picked Quarry (other thread) but i like J-Mac and respect his skills.
but yes he IS going down, lol.
by SoCalStunNa on Apr 18, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno. But I see him give up to easy most times. The Rich Franklin fight, he gave up, and hardly fought. The Gouveia fight he tapped to strikes… The Maia and sorta the Leben fight is the only time I’ve seen him show heart. But, in the Maia fight it showed he’s not an intelligent fighter, having a crazy size and reach advantage ont he feet, and continually going down with Maia.
Regardless, I’d like to take back my statement with calling him a pussy. I just don’t really like him.
And if Leites wins, it will ONLY be because of an Arm-triangle.
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SS I was just messing man J-Mac is a good fighter I just am rooting For Quarry.
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva
Rua
Pokam
Stann
Cane
Kongo
Marshall
Wiman
Chonnan
Quarry
Bocek
Herman
Thats it buddy damm you are what 2-0 im 1-1 thats allright it’s only early.
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that the Herman fight is out the way, we’re on the same team till we get to Kang, Rua, Silva fights
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look out for Grant, he is gunna be a rising star in the UFC, put him up against Hazelett!
Synyster impressive so far
by Zach on Apr 18, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
where do u guys watch the under card??
by guyverbob on Apr 18, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m just reading the PbP of another website.
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thnx, man i wanna see this so bad, i know sum ppl can see them but i hav no clue how..
by guyverbob on Apr 18, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Louiseau got dominated. Didn’t see that coming. Ed had a good plan for when he gives up his back.
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
looks like its tie buddy 3-1,everybody on here saying I was crazy fo picking Herman….hmmmmmmmmm.
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah… I got caught up in the return of the Crow. Hindsight, Crow lost to Jason Day not too long ago, and Hermon lost a split to Belcher (i thought herman won) and belcher is probably 2 fights from serious contendership… oh well. At least Herman doesn’t get cut.
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
30 minutes to go till 10, and there is still 3 undercard matchups…
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do u think liddell will b refreshed by the new training and his obvious excitment for this fight??
by guyverbob on Apr 18, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Chuck will win. No matter whether Shogun is in shape or not. I don’t think a week of new training will help too much though. But yeah, i dont think he was as motiivated for Shad and Jardine as he was for Wandi or Shogun.
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
against silva he was awsome he used wrestling and kicks, we don’t see him do that often, i want chuck to fight more like a striker then a puncher, i hope he wins this, he shud..
by guyverbob on Apr 18, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NICE! Quarry TKO 1st round over JMac. Ground n Pound
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
srry to bother u but wat website u looking on??
by guyverbob on Apr 18, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Quarry won,Synyster remember last week everybody was saying we are crazy and that j-Mac was gonna whoop Quarry,damn I want this to start already!!
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your boy Professor X doesn’t look like he’s gonna make it…
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit he lost,did you watch it Synyster?Did he show good?
by NM on Apr 18, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah didn’t watch.. read it on a playbyplay… didn’t sound good though, except for the frist round,but Kang won every rond
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope Liddel wins, there’s still so many great match ups for him; Forest, Silva, Machida, a rematch against Rashad/Rampage.
by James on Apr 18, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
watch me lose every fight on the Main Card…
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone got a link besides channelsurfing.net????
by Dan on Apr 18, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mmaturf.net
Aight guys, I’m off to watch it at a buddies house. I’ll be back to see how bad I beat NM round 1. Later guys. Enjoy Thales’ upset!
by Synyster on Apr 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha I think I had 8-4 Thales is crap,Shogun looked like old I am going to sleep hit you up on another thread Synyster.
Later Maniacs!!
by NM on Apr 19, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone has a good stream- i can’t find one to save my life. Channelsurfing.net went down for me.
by DSmith on Apr 18, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We haven’t seen Kongo go this far in a long while.
by DSmith on Apr 18, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow the polish experiment is a kimura king
by kingkong on Apr 18, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SHOGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Bill Maher on Apr 18, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SHOGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by J on Apr 18, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wwwwwwooooooooooo do we have the old Rua back?
by rydinlow on Apr 18, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t jump back on the Shogun bangwagon yet. we all thought wandy was back after he KOed Jardine. And look what happened to him against Rampage.
by Lights Out on Apr 19, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No,we have the new washed up Chuck that just can’t see them coming anymore. His reflexs are shot, not to mention he has a glass chin now. Shogun did look a lot better though.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bye chuck. it was fun!!!
by Brian "Chuck Must Win" on Apr 18, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow!!!!! I’m glad Shogun showed up, but sad for Chuck. 4 l’s out of the last 5 fights. Damn man, end of an era.
by DSmith on Apr 18, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ley me the first…. congrats John, your boy put Chuck away.
by DJ on Apr 18, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s right- you got that john (inserting foot into mouth as I type).
by DSmith on Apr 18, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
R.I.P liddell, oh well it was his time to retire shogun just showed he still has it i guess but he won’t get past rampage or anyone else in the lhw division
by kingkong on Apr 18, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am shocked and in complete dis-belief.
by Gweedo on Apr 18, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
liddell is still a hall of famer in my eyes anyways he just should have retired a few fights ago, hes stil the man though just got no chin…lol
by kingkong on Apr 18, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like Rogan always says “you only get your card punch but so many time…”.
by DSmith on Apr 18, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you see what happened to Rampage last time he faced shogun???
by wanderlei on Apr 18, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
see what happened to YOU Wandy last time YOU fought Rampage?!!!
by Gweedo on Apr 18, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wandy is still ahead against page by one though, let’s get them fighting each other again!
by orcus on Apr 18, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 wins 1 loss and wandy almost killed rampage during the second fight literally killed, rampaged almost died to wandy
by wanderlei on Apr 18, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
be quiet – it took you more than a few minutes to recover from your last beating anyway
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he looked GREAT against Coleman. Tell me when he beats an elite CAGE fighter in his prime.
by Ennis on Apr 18, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about rampage,arona,lil nog, and overeem?
by roy on Apr 19, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All in a ring, I said CAGE fighter. Without soccer kicks he won’t be elite.
by Ennis on Apr 19, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahuauhahuahuahuhauuhaa
Shogun shut the mouth of many
Beautiful
by Thiago on Apr 18, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was f’ing awesome, can’t wait for him to get the title, hope he gets a second go at forrest to get revenge!
by orcus on Apr 18, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda of a dick thing to say. Chuck help made the sport- if not for him Kimbo might be the king of MMA. Chuck never let his game evolve and to an extent that is respectable but he could never catch up. Shogun will never be a top 205 in the UFC without soccer kicks, so he can fight a top 5 205er and get destroyed.
by Ennis on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, shogun never really needed the soccer kicks to win fights, he just liked FINISHING fights that way because the public loved it (I still do!), that’s the thing about shogun and wandy, they fight for us, to give a good show. I’ve been a Shogun fan ever since he began destroying ppl here in Brazil, I never been that much of a Chuck fan, but I do acknowledge his input in the sport. Nevertheless, that doesn’t mean I can’t be happy for my boy Shogun, had he lost tonight he would most likely get cut and now he’s 100%, just wait dude, he’ll get the title from machida (the future title). had shogun lost tonight you’d be doing the same thing, so just let us have our fun, when shogun fights again you can start your smack talk again :P
by orcus on Apr 18, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
after a couple more wins will be singing a different tune
by roy on Apr 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ennins your so wrong, watch him get to the top and soccor kicks mean nothing are you crazy its a cool finishing move but you would have already had to hurt someone for them to be in postion or let you land something like that.
by roy on Apr 19, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shogun will clean out the lhw division! just wait and see yall
by orcus on Apr 18, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck can still fight, he’ll never be champ again and its understandable if he wants to walk away now. Chuck always fought top notch and it would be sad to see him fight low end fighters just for wins, in my eyes if he walked away now he’ll sorta still be going on topish. CHUCK!!
by pwilson on Apr 18, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck being relegated to some sort of gatekeeper is unthinkable. It makes my stomach turn just thinking about it.
by DSmith on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am very pleased with the fact that McDonald and Loiseau lost in Canada!!!
by Gweedo on Apr 18, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after GSP cheated by beating BJ in the US – this pleases me to watch Canadians lose at home
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chuck had something shogun will never have though and thats the ufc lhw title
by kingkong on Apr 18, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just wait a year and a half, it won’t take much longer!
by orcus on Apr 18, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let’s just say i won’t hold my breath on that one…lol shogun is not a great fighter at all hes ok yeah he beat chuck he also lost to forrest and barely beat old man coleman he better go back on those steroids to do anything big in the ufc
by kingkong on Apr 18, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope he gets a second shot a forrest, and as for old man coleman, let’s see how yall react when he beats bonnar into a pulp!
by orcus on Apr 18, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahahahhaha bonnar come on now bonnar is a joke he uses steroids and still loses if you can’t beat bonner you shouldn’t be in ths ufc…lol
by kingkong on Apr 18, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just saying that old man coleman will beat bonnar, just saying lol
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha i know dude i hope he does anyways…lol if bonnar wins it will be by way of super ninja kick to the temple of coleman
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for everybody to realize Shogun is overrated – yeah that sounds about right
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you need to get off Liddell’s nuts or he will never make weight.
by Bill Maher on Apr 19, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember Chuck would cut off his own balls b4 he misses weight
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, No shogun will never beat Machida. Machida is the A. Silva of the lhw division
by rydinlow on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its like the saying goes..every great fighter has one great fight left in him. It would seem that it was the Wandy fight for Chuck. I never thought I’d say it but I think its time to hang up the gloves.
by TapOutNow on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So handsome is going for the Clay Guida look eh?
by DSmith on Apr 18, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Chuck retires gracefully and doesn’t go the way of Ken Shamrock. Then again, Chuck should KO’ Mark Coleman, if he chooses to go for another fight, permitting D. White gives the green light on that one.
by DAVE A on Apr 18, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this should be a great fight. wiman and stout both put on a show
by Bill Maher on Apr 18, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shogun looked sharp, is it my imagination or did he look more physically fit than we’ve last seen him?
by DAVE A on Apr 18, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he better have – but Chuck looked hella betta body-wise and it wasn’t enuff
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I was almost in tears when Shogun KOd him out. Last time I felt like that was when Nogueira slapped that choke on Sylvia. I am so happy for Shogun. Wanderlei is in Montreal for this fight. I imagine they will party all night long now. Good for them!
by aman on Apr 18, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, guys. If any of you post or just notice any of these fights on youtube, could you please leave a link here? i am in Central Asia right now and can’t watch the fights. I am just following the PbP on Shergod.
by aman on Apr 18, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dude mmalinker has all fights even the ppv fights within an hour of the fights
by robert on Apr 18, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sam Stout has gotten a lot better! He’s 24 yrs old, if he can just keep improving for the next 3 yrs he’s going to be a top fighter.
by DAVE A on Apr 18, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, UFC allowing Cung Lee some air time and talking about his fight with shamrock, that’s cool. Let’s get him in the UFC.
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man the third round definatley went to Hominik. Stout still wins but not all three rounds
by Magz on Apr 19, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree Magz, WTF were the judges watching?
by DAVE A on Apr 19, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who’s going for the Leites upset? I know I’m not, A.Silva must be pissed after his last fight so I’m calling for a TKO in the first 3 min.
by rydinlow on Apr 19, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree with everybody here. Chuck needs to walk away…a true legend, but he cant take a punch anymore. The Rashad KO ended his career.
As sad as it is to see Chuck go, it’s great to have Shogun back. He looked very crisp and athletic tonight, like the old Shogun.
by A.T. on Apr 19, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The underdog coming in to GNR- how can you not root for the guy?
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yaa i dont wanna see silva win great fighter just think its time for someone else
by owens on Apr 19, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like to root for the underdog but against a guy like Silva, GSP, Fedor, you just know the inevitable outcome.
by rydinlow on Apr 19, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i’d like to see leites win but he probably won’t, alot of good middle weight fights coming up hendo vs bisping(hendo will kill him) and maia vs marquardt which i think should happen for the number 1 contenders match to face the winner of silva and henderson but then again wandy is gonna be in the mix now to and hes real pissed off at silva so there are some good mw fights coming up
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ Penn can use any excuse in the book bottom line he got his ass kicked
by Dave on Apr 19, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
true BUT I’ll always be a fan of his – How many lightweight fighters do YOU know that will move up to fight Machida MOFO?
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anderson silva is taking forever to wake up…
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
never been so disappointed in the spider, he better make up for it with an awesome ko.
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck bj penn fuckin cry baby, can’t he just admit he got smashed and get on with it, or is he man ken flo is training with gsp, either way dana should cut his stupid hawaiian ass and tell him to take up surfing
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha nice one but atleast they didn’t cry when they got destroyed
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so does Forrest suck b/c he cried when he lost to Jardine???
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he actually cried i’m talking whining like a little baby i like forrest hes a good fighter i ment the way bj is crying about his loss to gsp and the things hes trying to do
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson can’t help but be frustrated by Leites. He’s fading sideways, then going to his back for most of the fight. Silva is finally picking Leites apart. I imagine if the Cote fight continued it would’ve been much of the same.
by DAVE A on Apr 19, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s is nothing more frustrating than watching a fighter who has no plan b and they just try the same shit that’s not working over and over again.
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cote doesn’t have a great ground game so he woulda just came at him hes a crazy french canadian he woulda pushed until someone got knocked out
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry, I’m having hard time following…How is the Cote fight anything like this one?
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Cote fight was better than this. Cote was trying at least.
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leites is gonna have to get Silva with a flying armbar ala Akano to get Silva on the ground.
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leites is just surviving and you’re right guy has no plan B’… Leites should continue to pursue Anderson for this last rnd and go down swinging!!! FIGHT!
by DAVE A on Apr 19, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously- you know you’ve lost every round, you have nothing to lose (except maybe consciousness)but what the hell go for it! Go down in blaze of glory, anything but that throwing yourself on the ground shit. It’s just a measure of how outclassed Leites is in this fight.
Silva needs to start fighting at 205 on a regular basis and check out what’s there for him. Besides a Marquardt rematch, all other fights at 185 are pointless and will look similar to this. Silva will lose his marketability. Who wants to watch this shit again?
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF kind of fight is this??? I will never watch Silva fight anybody that aint legitimate again
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trouble is there ain’t anyone else who’s legitimate.
by TheIlluminati on Apr 19, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that isn’t the trouble. What kind of SUPPOSEDLY P4P best can’t make it an exciting fight by finishing his opponent. If a guy doesn’t engage against GSP he gets destroyed. Gsp is a complete fighter and would have jumped on Leites and pounded him out. I laugh at the comments that Andy will destroy GSP. It’s the other way around, GSP will be able to take him down at will and pass his gaurd like he has passed every other black belts gaurd. All that crap about Silva getting bored is bullshit, he was scared to engage and get KOed by Cote and he was scared to get submitted by Leites. He will be terrified of getting taken down and mauled by GSP’s amazing top controle and GnP. Silva has only shined when foolish fighter rushed in and he could counter strike. Silva gets frustrated very easy and GSP is the king at frustrating his opponents. I always thought GSP would beat Silva, but now I know he will make him look bad. Anderson can’t fight when a fight doesn’t go his way and GSP makes the fight go his way. How can people put Silva ahead of GSP and Fedor on the P4P list when he looks like shit against guys like Cote and Leites and they are destroying guys like BJ and AA. GSP has never wasted his time in fighting guys like Luter, Leben and Irvin. I don’t think I could sit through another lame boring fight of the Spider’s.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much for all the “great Canadian fans” that don’t boo.
by Jrandolph on Apr 19, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It takes alot to get them there though- that fight SUCKED!. If it Vegas or anywhere else in the US there would’ve been beer and chairs all over the octagon.
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The booing was more than justified, that was the lamest fight I even seen.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree, but am bout sick and tired of hearing about the “canadian fan”.
They boo any fighter that happens to be opposite a Canadian fighter. I don’t have a problem with that by the way, they are simply being loyal countrymen. I have a problem when everyone goes apenuts when American fans do the same.
by Jrandolph on Apr 19, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is probably the most boring title fight I’ve ever seen. I mean WTF is silva doing, it’s obvious Leites has no answer for him and is just looking to go to a decision. I dunno maybe I’m just being a dumb drunk but Silva just needs to go balls to the wall and KO this kid.
by rydinlow on Apr 19, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thales should do what BJ did and just not come out again.
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
silva fought a good fight. leites was bitch and fell down any rtime silva got too near. canadians are lame. so are casual mma fans.
by dirty south on Apr 19, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
keep dreaming , I will say that maybe Silva needs to move to 205 permanently
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d go far and say anderson fights as good as his competition is, so GSP fight should be good. I must say this was the worst fight I have ever seen, and it breaks my heart that it came from anderson.
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva did not impress in his last 2 fights now. He doesn’t look as invincible as he used to.
by LJ on Apr 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn … people….. maybe he is just trying to earn a paycheck for once
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I’d rather say Silva’s last two opponents didn’t have the balls to engage therefore the last 2 fights weren’t impressive (Much less Cote than Leites IMO, I didn’t the Cote fight was that bad). Silva is counter striker. Give the man a strike and you will see action. Throw yourself on the ground for 5 rounds straight knowing damn well he’s not taking the bait = not so much action.
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cote was engaging more than Silva was and he has way bigger balls than Silva, because he wasn’t the one that was scared to get KOed. You can’t blame it on the way the other guy fights. One could easily say Silva was a pussy for not jumping on Leites every time he want to the ground. What kind of P4P best can’t take the fight where he wants it.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After watching Silva past 2 fights I’m gonna find it hard to even consider him P4P best or even 2nd best. After his past 2 fights I put him #3 behind Fedor and GSP. And before tonight I would say Silva would best GSP but after these past 2 fights, GSP will destroy Silva and I will bet my house and entire life savings on it. GSP is faster, stronger his striking is on par with Silvas.
by rydinlow on Apr 19, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have to agree with you,it’s like he can not pull the trigger.There was several times I found myself saying GSP would be killing him right now.But styles make matches and he might be a little more willing to open up on GSP,but I can not see Anderson stopping GSP takedowns.
by scott on Apr 19, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would NOT consider him the best p4p because he has completely ran through all of the competition in his division until there is just nothing left for him to do? That’s a bit weird don’t you think? GSP still has some work to do at 170, BJ has ALOT to clear out at 155 and out of the bunch I would consider Fedor the biggest dodger of solid competition. You can’t fault a man for fighting until there is nothing left. If his name was Tito we’d still be waiting for Silva/Franklin 2.
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about? GSP has destroyed all the top WWs except Alves. Silva has beat a bunch of cans and 3 top MWs. Silva has plenty left, the new (much better)Marquart, Maia and even Cote with 2 good legs.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rydinlow….Please dont bet your house and life savings on GSP….This was pathetic….Leites is awful as i stated previously…….You never know if Silva played possum to set up the GSP fight or was told to take it easy on Leites or even bet on himself going to a decision…..I think we all know Silva couldve Destroyed Thales in the first 2 min, but for some “REASON” he just didn’t……Dont bet the farm cuz that would truly be unfortunate….
by Venzia on Apr 19, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many more fights can you keep coming up with excuses how Andy could have destroyed these guys? The fact is he couldn’t have or he WOULD HAVE and he DIDN’T.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow that one of the worst fights in a while. Thales ranks up there with freakin Kalib Starnes now. way to just flop on your back for 5 rounds you pussy.
by kitsunex on Apr 19, 2009 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Starting to think Silva would not last 3 rounds with GSP.
Call me crazy.
by introvert on Apr 19, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You’re not crazy, i’ve been saying GSP would be a bad match up for Silva for a long time. You think Silva is tentative now, wait untill GSP dumps him on his head a few times.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only concern is the size difference.
by Joe Smith on Apr 19, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its all about gettin caught. chuck fights all quality fighters. and no slackers and anybody can be caught at anytime. so chuck think about it think about it real hard. you are the king. you need to be back in the actagon dont let your wife control your fighting man. you know how us chucks are.
by chuckl on Apr 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe it was Silva’s plan to make it look like he trained really hard and this was the best that he could do SO THAT it sets up a terrific fight that will draw lots of CASH in a GSP battle…
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anderson still has a few more fights he needs to deal with before moving up in weight class
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Worst championship fight of all time. Next pay per view should be for free!
by ZFINEY on Apr 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
silva just looks like he’s bored now. went from destroying guys in 19 seconds to going 5 rounds with a guy that shouldn’t have survived th first one
by kitsunex on Apr 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bring on gsp. at least he will be agressive and force silva to fight.
by day1er on Apr 19, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in any case Silva has now broken records in the UFC – consecutive wins (9) i think,,, and title defenses tied (5) i think with Matt Hughes maybe???
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You forgot the record for “2 of the lamests fights in a row”.
by Gord on Apr 19, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite part of the fight was when Leites bored himself to death and fell down asleep and then Silva followed up with a brazilian dance move too pornographic to describe here on a family blog.
by TheIlluminati on Apr 19, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anderson silva is the next tim sylvia
by ActionJackson on Apr 19, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anderson still has a few more fights left in him before he moves up in weight class
by kingkong on Apr 19, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as I would like to agree with you Gweedo I just think Silva has become gun shy and is afraid of losing his belt. I mean watching the fight there were so many chances for Silva to put the fight away but he just didn’t pull the trigger.
by rydinlow on Apr 19, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok ok I always hear these f***ing sob stories about injuries….. what if Silva was injured – see my problem is nobody is ever willing to give the champ a break – the champ is ALWAYS the one that takes the criticism – ITS BS!!!!!!!
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at his leben fight and then look at this one and say that he didn’t look terrible
by kitsunex on Apr 19, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva only looked good against Leben because Leben was very aggressive and made mistakes. A counterstriker is only as exciting as his opponents. I think Cote and Leites tried to to Silva what Evans did to Chuck: make the counterstriker frustrated and come after them, throw him off his game plan and hope he makes mistakes.
by Joe Smith on Apr 19, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s a big if, but he didn’t say anything about injuries in his interview with rogan. if the crowd is booing so much and he really was injured, I’m sure he’d have mentioned it to save him a few fans. I’m still a fan, but seriously, I will not watch him fight another mid-level fighter. he’s the champ, I know that it’s the challenger’s duty to take the belt from the champ, but if the challenger is just standing there not doing much the champ needs to put him away of misery. I’m really disappointed in anderson, I used to be a big fan and did not want him to retire, now I can see why he wants to.
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah – it’s real respectful and easier to sell a fight when you tell the public you are injured – thats smart! LOL
by Gweedo on Apr 19, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh no, I’m talking about the interview after the fight, you know, the one where 90% of canadians were booing?
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not going to be hard against Silva. Thales never had any business being in there with him.
If his opponents dont have the ability to fight him and are afraid to engage, how is that Silvas fault? Why should he charge in and play to opponents strengths. You people all miss the point. He won. Easily. No issue at all. Again.
Remember, the better the competition, the ‘better’ Anderson you will see.
My view is the middleweight division is done with Anderson. Realistically no-one will come close to beating him. In his last few fights UFC might as well do the super fights. GSP seems popular, and maybe a couple of 205 fights. Although I still dont see Anderson losing in any against anyone.
by UK_Chris on Apr 19, 2009 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah, he should leave the MW and just do superfights, I’m down with that.
by orcus on Apr 19, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Why should he charge in and play to opponents strengths.” you can say the same thing for leites.
by ActionJackson on Apr 19, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leites didn’t have anything Silva wanted…. Silva had what Leites wanted however, the belt. Leited didn’t do anything to go after it, so his loss.
by Scuds on Apr 19, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when tim sylvia does it he’s garbage but anderson silva can fight to not lose all he wants and it’s other people’s faults? WHACK
by ActionJackson on Apr 19, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Thales couldn’t do squat. And he lost. Flopping on the floor every time Silva came close isnt a fight, or skill, period.
Not only that, his famed BJJ which was supposed to be far ahead of Silvas was nothing but talk, because even when he did have Silva down, he couldnt do squat there either.
If anyone is to blame for this fight, its the UFC matchmakers. Like I say, Thales never had any business being in there with Silva, just what were they and everyone thinking would happen?
by UK_Chris on Apr 19, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I 100% cosign with UK Chris. There is simply nothing left for Anderson to do at MW and that is not his fault.
by DSmith on Apr 19, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Why is the spider not fighting…this shit was whack….pound for pound…come on last two fights against weak over rated fighters like cote and then leitis…give him okami or marquardt again…nate looks great in his last fights, he might beat silva this time…what a waste of ppv
by tkoherr2 on Apr 19, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey chucks the king man. he needs to be a promoter no and find then kind of fighter he is. we all know he has followers. find heim chuck and turn him out.
by chuckl on Apr 19, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
worthless…if dana white calls this guy the p4p best in the world again, i’m going to boycott the UFC. LOL just kidding. but seriously, put silva and fedor in a catch weight fight and fedor would end it in less than a round. and i’m really thinking GSP would end silva’s night pretty quickly too.
by B_Hos on Apr 19, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is everybody acting like chuck has a weak chin? Rashad would have knocked anyone out with that right he hit chuck with and Shit shogun came runnin with a looping haymaker while chuck was almost standing still trying to throw a left hook. Chuck shouldn’t have even tried to go for that punch and circle away. His reactions are not there anymore, Hate to see him go out like this, but i think its best for him.
by Mike-C on Apr 19, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“dance, shuck, and jive” – perfect description of that digrace of a performace from A. Silva.
Leites was terrible as well. I drop 45 bones for fights, I expect some scrappin, not some bum spread eagle waitin to be penetrated for 25 minutes.
by SalmonBum on Apr 19, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost didn’t get this PPV but then I thought you got Shogun vs Liddell and Anderson Silva this could be a good PPV so I bought it. As they say hindsight is 20/20. This was a waste of 45 dollars, even in a losing effort I was more excited watching Liddell fight at least he wasn’t afraid to “try” and win. I’ve always been a Silva fan but after these last two fights I don’t know anymore. I understand he wants to keep the belt but at no point in this fight did I think he was going to beat Leites or vice versa. I could rant all night about how disappointed this was but I’ll just look and the one positive. We may be finally getting to see the Shogun we’ve been waiting to see.
by Anderson Mayweather on Apr 19, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I won my first two picks of the Main Card but lost everything else.
IMO, Wiman got robbed.
Chuck…. damn.
I did pick a Leites upset. Damn I feel dumb. But there is NO excuse for Anderson to not have finished that fight. Once he saw that Thales wouldn’t even throw a punch, he should/could have finished him on his feet. Once Anderson got top position on the ground, and opened up, Thales covered up like a bitch. Those few punches bloodied up his nose and eye. Anderson could have finished it then. IMO, BOTH were waiting for a decision.
I do not think Anderson is the best P4P fighter anymore. Once shiddy performance, ok I’ll give that to you. Two in a row? Not a chance. I think it goes Fedor, GSP, BJ, Anderson. At least BJ tried to fight back in a loss.
If the GSP fight happens, then great, go GSP. But I really think Anderson should permenantly move to 205, where guys like Rampage, Rashad, Vera, and even Forrest would not be too scared to strike with him. EVERYONE at 185 is SCARED of Silva, and doesn’t fight. But its also Silva’s fault for not exploiting that weakness and killing everyone in front of him!
Very frustrating night for an event I was the most excited to see.
by Synyster on Apr 19, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i remember watching the fight and thinking didnt someone predict a second round arm triangle, cuz in the second round thats what leites was going for
by Jared on Apr 19, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thales leites smells like vagina
by phenomenal angel on Apr 19, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thales Leites must smell good then. unless you always deal with smelly bitches
by Maleko Hala on Apr 19, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a name like “Maleko hala”, we BOTH know the only snatch YOU have ever smelled was laquifa’s and fosho’niqua’s.
Which means dank, nasty as hell, ocean slum nasty.
by SalmonBum on Apr 19, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana should throw silva on the street tomorrow.
by keith on Apr 19, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its not silvas fault leites has no balls
by Beast3000 on Apr 19, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Chuck was bad and shogun better. Anderson Silva was not good.
by Shaoul on Apr 19, 2009 2:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A very sad day for Iceman fans. Im going to cry now. I wont be ripping him like some priks on here – he’s still the man.
by Insain on Apr 19, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love how this has been proving how weak the WEC is…
Look how Condit & Cantwell got beat, and if you include Chael Sonnen (how should have got the belt after pathetic Filho’s tricks to keep the belt by missing weight for fight) that makes three WEC champs who couldn’t win against average or slightly better UFC competition!!!
So much for trying to make people think those losers could stand up to UFC competition!!!
by BigZen on Apr 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say it but where did that killer instinct go that Anderson Silva had? He never really tried to Thai clinch and throw knees. Too pathetic performances in a row! He is no longer the number one p4p fighter if you ask me.
by halljam2 on Apr 19, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, add in Brian Stann (former HW Champ for a minute) to the other WEC people who couldn’t make it in the UFC… ZUFFA needs to rethink the whole WEC thing.
Maybe they should call them the minor leagues of MMA, or at least for the UFC?
by BigZen on Apr 19, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
btw, did anyone notice how Anderson wipes his face at the beginning before the fight starts, then wipes his hands all over his body and arms? Knowing Leites is a BJJ guy and wants the fight on the ground, anyone think he did it on purpose? Greasegate 2?
by james on Apr 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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