Dana White pays tribute to Charles 'Mask' Lewis Jr.

Phil, I understand what you are saying and would not be surprised at all to see them pull all the stops at 100 and do a tribute like that for him and possibly Mask as well. 100 is going to be a special event and I expect them to bring back alot of guys from the early days(not to fight, but more like the major sports do with legends at all star games and such).

I truely hope so Crowls.

That would be nice.

Phil- I think another reason might have been the situation that both men where in when they passed. Helio was 97 years old and died in his home. He had lived more than a full life, and because of him everyone knows the Gracie name. Mask, on the other hand, was only 45 years old and died in a horrible accident. He really only began to make a name for himself over the past 5 years or so.

they should do a parade of fighters for UFC 100 like they did in Pride, but instead of including the fighters on the card, they should just use legends and some of the sports most popular fighters. That would be great, especially if they hired Pride’s production team to do it. It would never happen, but it would be great to see.

I also would like to see them extend the broadcast an hour, and show more fights, but only bumping the price up another $5 dollars. I dont know if it makes sense for them financially, but they should make UFC 100 special.

Natural, good point, that may very well be the case.

Dave, I love the ideas. Knowing the UFC they would do a special $100 for UFC 100 though. $5 would be great.

WTF? Get a heart.

i love the part where he uses the word “loyal” i bet he wouldnt have anything nice to say if tom atencio passed away… business as usual

easy pal, i paid my respects in another thread. Mostly to his family. It’s gotta be tough to lose a friend or family member that way, but let’s not act like this was some tragic accident.

Look, you’re the one saying his poor choice did it. All I’m saying is no one wants to hear the shit. If you paid your respects then leave it at that. there’s no need to hear anything else extra about it. He’s dead and nothing can change that so why point out anything.

It was a tragic accident,you act like you have never made a mistake ,do not pay your respect ,and then rip him apart.We have all done things we shouldn’t have done but we are still here.
Mask you will be missed by most of us all!

Thank-you, I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels this way!

Yeah, if you haven’t done something careless in your life where you look back now and say “man I could easily be dead right now” then you probably haven’t lived much of a life. I’m so thankful that none of the stupid stuff that I have done in my life ever led to myself or someone else getting seriously hurt. Sometimes you just get unlucky.

I agree with you guys, who hasn’t done something incredibly stupid in their life that could have gotten them, or someone else hurt? I don’t know one person who can honestly say they have never done something stupdid. Everyone saying that “he did it to himself” and “thats what he gets for racing” get off your god damn soapbox and keep your comments to yourself. Christ.

I just cannot believe that someone would even act like that about this situation.Mask,always came across as a very nice guy,he always seemed great with fans and the fighters.He never came across as disrespectful.He always came across a very nice person that was not fake,which is rare for this world now.

How would this person feel if it was his brother,and somebody made a comment saying it was his fault,how would he feel then.

The people who act “holier than thou” and run their mouths about people when they die are the same ones who sit at home behind their computer and find that’s the only way they can run the mouths. He would’nt dare say the same thing to the family he “supposedly” paid his respects too.

I’m not the one running my mouth. He did always come off as respectful and his legend will live on as long as Tapout is around..probly longer. You guys are getting absurd. It was his fault. If I had died as the driver or passenger in an alcohol involved street racing accident, I sure as hell would expect that ppl would say I was stupid for doing it. That’s not to say it wouldn’t be sad. We can all agree it is unfortunate and I’m pretty sure everyone feels bad for those who knew the man. At the same time, alot of you guys are acting as if some terrible thing was done to him. I have no remorse for him. It sucks we won’t see him ringside, and I feel terrible for his friends and family but it would be disingenuous of my to come on here and act like he was killed by another drunk driver or something. It should be pointed out that he was largely at fault so that ppl don’t get the wrong impression. Him being responsible does not lessen the blow to his loved ones, in fact it may be harder to swallow. Let’s all agree that sucks he’s gone and I’ll leave it at that. Sorry to offend your fragile sensibilities.

Fragile Huh. There’s a point you keep missing, i guess you have to be apart of the “human race” to get it. NO ONE wants to hear your bull-shit anymore. Let’s say that someone in his family, knew you, knew what you said, then beat the shit out of you to the point that you died. I guess we could say “he brought it on himself” for being such a dickhead during a grieving time. He had it coming. RIP Mask- From a true fan. You will be missed.

Fragile Huh? Well, you don’t seem to get what we’ve all been saying. You have to be apart of the “human race” to understand. But for just so that I understand where you’re coming from, we’ll explain it like this. let’s say his family knew you, knew what you said, Then one of them beat your ass so bad that you died. I guess we could say “he had it coming to him and there’s no remorse for him because he was a dickhead” RIP Mask

Crowls-

Its a lost cause. Your post was very well taken. Good job, man.

haha, you are retarded. I’m not part of the human race because I stated a fact?? Is this how you convince yourself you are a caring individual?? Fact: Mask was street racing. Fact: Alcohol was involved. Fact: Both drinking and driving and street racing are dangerous and irresponsible.

This does not constitute bashing. He seemed like a cool and caring guy.

haha, thanks OJR. I have another response in moderation but yea, this is really going nowhere.

The whole point was that no one wants to hear about how you say he did it to himself. Fact, the other driver was drinking and no one has said that Mask was. Until that is confirmed what you say is purely speculation, not fact. so keep “your” facts to “yourself” and your right, this is going no where. you have to have a heart. You obviously don’t.

actually the fact is he was riding with a friend that was street racing that is why thet guy is in jail ,get off your high horse

he was charged for vehicular manslaughter

actually, whether he was driving or riding shotgun it was a poor choice. secondly, they arrested the guy driving the porsche and PC’d the passenger in the porsche. Mask had a female with him and it does appear as though he was driving. Considering they arrested the other driver for “gross vehicular manslaughter” and the passenger was arrested for public intoxication and released the next day, it’s a pretty solid bet that alcohol was involved in both cars. Even if it wasn’t, the racing is irresponsible enough. What if Mask had lived and his female passenger who was ejected wound up dead. Would you all think it was so tragic that he was injured in an accident?

Yes, regardless of who died it would be tragic. Loss of life before your time is always tragic. But some ppl don’t care and that’s where you come in i guess. I’m fortunate enough not to personally know ppl like you in my life. But i did have the great fortune to meet Tapout in-person once last year. Yes, this is very tragic to ppl who care

they arrested the driver of the porshe and the owner of the ferrari

Mask was the owner of the ferrari

Why do you keep trying to argue your point,it does not matter,some one died,but you keep wanting to say it was his own fault,even if it is his fault it is still a tragic accident.If he had shot himself in the head it would still be tragic.A LIFE WAS LOST,THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS

Amen

They arrested some guy ,I believe his last name was Kirby

Jeffrey d Kirby age 51 was driving the ferrari

Scott, we are on the same side. Crowls is and asshole, but jeffery d, kirby was driving the Porche.

my bad you guys are right I was reading the story wrong Kirby was driving the Porshe and is facing 19 years in jail and being held under 2 million dollar bail

No problem, at least your hearts in the right place.

If you guys are arguing that a loss of life is tragic regardless of how it happens, then you are basically arguing that living is a tragedy as well. Since we all die, living must be a tragedy, because we will ultimately die.

Do you think it’s a tragedy when an old person dies in their sleep? They died. I’m sure it affected their family.

Thoughts?

My wife has worked in a nursing home for the past 8 yrs and I’ve met and enjoyed a lot of their company. It affects anyone one their loved one passes. No life is not a tragedy, it is what you make it. But why can’t we mourn people without disrespecting them? I don’t believe that ppl should disrespect the dead. That’s just my view.

i wasn’t disrespecting Mask in saying anything. It’s the truth. None of you incredibly caring people have said a word to this point about feeling bad for the injured passenger. We are all impressed by your astounding capacity to care for someone even in an instance in which that person was grossly negligent and injured another human being in the process. You say I’m on a high horse. You guys are ridiculous. You’re probly the same bleeding hearts who were more concerned with Rampage’s mental well being than the pregnant woman who’s car he ran into.

I agree to a certain extent Greg. I believe there should be a certain amount of respect shown to the deceased and their loved ones. I think bashing someone or making inappropriate comments about someone right after they died is in poor taste.

On the other hand, there are some people who should not be shown any respect after they die. I’m thinking of winners like Hitler or Stalin. People who were monters in life. No one should grieve over the life of a suicide bomber.

I think in this instance, even though Charles was probably culpable for the circumstances regarding his death, we should be respectful. It appears as if he was a generous person who did some good things in his life.

I agree with you, not all ppl deserve sympathy. Charles does’nt fall in that category. He did not kill anyone in this accident but himself. He cared about people and would give the shirt off of his back. You never know when you walk out of your front door if it will be your last.

like George bush! hes a monster

respect is one thing, sympathy is another thing entirely. why does he deserve sympathy. If he had been drinking and playing with a gun and managed to shoot himself, you would be sympathetic towards that?? Clearly he did not value human life very much(his own or anyone elses).

I think you’re at the wrong site bend. You should be posting those comments at moveon.org?

Look who’s talking about respect. LOL. You speak of something you know nothing about.

I have a question… Why did you send your respects to his family (if that’s even true) if you feel so strongly against him with all of your bull-shit remarks. oh.. i get it..you’re fake.

Crowls, I don’t think this is a matter of sympathy. I think you’ve made it very clear that you don’t feel any sympathy for Charles, which is fine. I think what is being argued, is the perceived lack of respect by posting these thoughts a couple days after he died.

I tend to believe that since his lack of discretion didn’t kill anyone else (and the circumstances of the accident are still being investigated) he should be shown a certain level of respect (not sympathy).

luckily he didn’t kill anyone else. Fact is he did injure someone else. It’s lucky he didn’t hit a car with a family in it or something. Greg, I don’t feel “so strongly” against the man, I am just not about to pretend to feel bad for him considering the nature of his actions. I do feel bad for his family b/c they are the ones suffering as a result of his negligence. You are the one being fake here. My remarks are not bull-shit…they are the truth. This debate isn’t even about mask at this point. It’s about Greg and Scott taking this way too personally and trying to jump and defend an undefendable action. You guys feel so bad for him but you should be more concerned with the girl who was injured as a result of Mask’s poor judgement. I have nothing against the man. You guys seem to think I’m glad he died or something. That’s absolutely not the case.

All i’m saying Crowls is that you don’t have to come on here and say anything at all negative. Pay your respects as you claimed to have done and leave it at that. Everything else is’nt necessary. He died the day before yesterday. if you really want to respect his family. then don’t bash his son and say he got what he deserved. That’s really not respecting his family of friends. you can’t say that’s respect or class for that matter.

By the way, no one is defending the act, we’re just trying to get through to someone with no restraint, that no matter how he died show some respect. He was a man just like you or me, who made a mistake. We all make mistakes, no one on this earth is perfect. If you are perfect, bash away. But to this day I’ve never met a perfect individual.

please explain how i have “bashed” him.

Anytime someone passes “let’s say” 2 days ago. And someone says they did it to himself, i’d call it bashing. When you paid your respects to his family, did you also let them know that you believe he got what he deserved? Probably not, out of respect. So, why now? Why can’t you keep your negative thoughts to yourself. Do you honestly believe that his family, that you say you feel sorry for, would appreciate that?

You say you feel sorry for his family, did you tell the that you thought he did it to himself to them? Probably not since you care so much about what their going through right now. But you decided that the rest of us wanted to hear that. we did’nt

You didn’t, some people are just jumping onto the bandwagon and looking for a fight.

Moon, who are you referring to. This all started with a pretty simple post by me. These guys all lost their minds. I wasn’t trying to start or continue a fight but i’m sure gonna defend myself and what I say if someone starts making personal attacks.

I’m glad you’re defending yourself. too bad Mask can’t defend himself against people like you!

man you are a tool. I’d be willing to bet he would not defend his actions had he survive.

Crowls, thats what i’m sayin man. I’ve read the full tread not just some of them. You never said anything that I haven’t said in the previous articles. You can still be respectful whilst saying the truth. Just because he’s dead doesn’t mean we have to make him out as some saint. Everybody knows Mask worked hard and partied harder, it just caught up with him in the end. Unfortunately his passenger is still not doing well. I read a news report that said she would live but will be disfigured for life. People on this site are starting to look for fights and unfortunately some picked you.

yea, i don’t get it. Maybe some lingering animosity since the whole AdamG list. Then with the controversy after 94. Seems like guys are real irritable lately. Winter itch??

You guys are funny. RIP Mask.

Wanna see why the world isn’t fair? Here’s proof. A generous and nice guy like Charles Lewis is dead, and a birth defect like crowls is still alive. If you wanna look for judgment, I can be we can see his mother buring in the pits of hell for not opting for coat hanger when that piece of trash was conceived. His father is also going straight down for accidentally slipping and falling on his mom that resulted in his conception.

May God have mercy on Crowls’ parents soul, cuz that piece of crap should never have been born.

overreaction much?

Hey moon beam or whatever, no one is saying Charles is a saint. All anyone is saying is show some respect. Is that so hard or is being assholes in this life that much easier. I guess it’s all in how you’re raised. Cold. And crowls as far as this being something oozing over from some fight, that’s just ignorance on you’re part. You say human life is valued the same as a fight? You need help, did your mom not hug you enough as a child?

UPDATE… to those who care. It has been stated by the news that street racing was not involved in the accident of Charles Lewis.