UFC Quick Quote: Seconds matter to Keith Jardine after loss to Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson

agreed with MoonUK…2nd and 3rd were Page’s no question

I gave the 1st round to Jardine as he seemed to be the agressor…they threw and landed shots pretty equally in the 1st. The other 2 rounds were Page’s though. I think if you take out the last 10 seconds and if Jardine had gotten that takedown he attempted in the 3rd he might have pulled it out but that didn’t happen so it was definitely Page 29-28. It was a pretty lackluster performance from Page and I was disappointed that Jardine seemed to gas so quickly cause he had a chance to take the 2nd round when Page looked a little wobbly on his legs from that uppercut he ate. Page is one of the best at covering up though…I’ll give him that. He doesn’t take a lot of punishment when guys throw some flurries at him. It was nice to see Jardine’s chin hold up the way it did…I like Jardine and his attitude but he just can’t seem to string those Ws together to get a crack at the belt. It’s hard cause he only fights guys in the top 10 of the UFC for the most part…can’t fault him for that. I’d like to see him fight Thiago Silva or get the fight he missed out on…Luis Cane.

Im not sure how most people saw that incident following the shin to Rampages nutsack. He looked in pain then he said he was OK to fight as they showed the replay then when it went back from the replay he looked like he was walking funny cos of the groin pain. I’ll have to check it again but thats what it looked like to me. He should have took up to 5 mins and f*ck the crowd if they boo. It would’ve been really shitty if Jardine took advantage of that and finshed him because of it.

I was thinking the same so I watched it again. The ref was at fault!! At no time did he offer Rampage any time, the only thing he asked was if he wished to continue!! He couldn’t say no as that would have finished the fight Antony Johnson style,

Yeah it looked like that. Considering it was a blatant groin shot it would be given if he complained though.

If that would have happened Yves Lavigne would have been fired on the spot following the controversy that followed him that night.

Bustr Bluth, I think you got it right. Alothough I wouldn’t have given round three to Keith even if the last 10 seconds were gone and he go the takedown. It seemed to me that Keith ate a stiff jab for every leg kick he threw and that’s not an even trade in my book. And having his hands down allowed Page to connect on way too many headshots. I was pulling for Jardine, but Page was just doing more damage.

I think the groin shot happened right after he had already wobbled Jardine, that’s why he wanted to continue so quickly afterward, he wantd to finish the job. At least thats what i remember.

you got it right venzia, but Rampage was still hurt after that groin shot so he could barely walk straight on his legs.. then Jardine came in and Rampage blocked like 10 punches perfectly.. Rashad was like oh he rocked him with a uppercut! pssst, noway dude.

I think Rampage himself already commented on this. He said that it hurt, but he felt he had Jardine hurt so he didn’t want to give him the time to rest.

As for the scoring, I had it pretty similar to what Buster said. I gave a close first round to Jardine. The second was all Rampage. In a way you could almost say that he did lose the fight in the last 10 seconds, not because he was ahead, but because the third round was close and whoever did something big could take it. When Jardine went crashing to the floor, that gave the fight to Rampage, but if Jardine could have dropped Rampage instead, then he would have been given the round and the fight.

MONDAY MORNING CONVERSATION WITH KEVIN:
Rampages vs. Rashad:
Rampage could hype a fight between John and Penny Puffington, but maybe he should spend part of that time focusing on fighting! I for one am really not that excited for this fight, and truly feel that Machida deserves the shot, not Rampage. I know guys, a complete 180, I have been vocal about how I think Rampage should have had an instant rematch following the Griffin loss. Well times have changed!
Rampage is doing something that I haven’t seen before, getting the most hype and attention out of any fighter (since Chuck Liddell), and at the same time, being one of the most inconsistent fighters out there. Yes, when 2 top guys get in there, we’ll see decisions, thats not the problem! Jackson looked awful in his win against Jardine. He was slow and indecisive. He fought a similar fight against Forrest. Kinda strange, both lackluster, forgettable performances followed KO’s of legends! If he fights this fight against Rashad, he’ll get his head knocked out, only thing going for Page is the model is calling for a KO.
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Rashad is not only a terrible commentator, but a terrible champion too! Her was offered a fight with Rampage after he beat Forrest, on the same amount of rest, and said he wouldn’t have enough time…disgraceful! Instead, he gets his teammate to get in there and show him how to win. Real athletes step up and fight anytime, on short notice, hurt and then don’t talk about it! Kos, GSP and Nog are a few I can name recently!
Class is a word some of you throw around too much. Why does Rashad have class? He show boats, talks way too much trash and has never showed empathy or concern for a hurt opponent. Those qualities are what class is. Just because a guy puts on a suit (that any of you could go buy, and you would know how to tie the tie), doesn’t mean he has class!
Too close of a fight to call, but right now, leaning towards Rashad via KO. Train hard page!!!

Great post Kev!!! Agreed on all accounts!

" He was slow and indecisive. He fought a similar fight against Forrest. Kinda strange, both lackluster, forgettable performances followed KO’s of legends"

I think this might have bbeen from Page’s fear of losing to leg kicks. He doesn’t check them well and decides to dance out of way making it hard for him to stay in close

Wow, I totally agree with you about Rashad being such a disgraceful champ and fighter in general. I just havn’t heard it said in such a calm and logical manner. Props

Kevin A agree completly about your opinion on Rashad and, class. However Im goin to attribute Rampages performance to Jardine’s style. You are correct about Rashad he is an asshole trying to be likeable. I even remember him baggin on Tito for wearing a suite in an old interview he did

kev, as you know, I thought Machida deserved that shot all along. But i was thinking that Machida would beat ‘Shad and then Page would be the first to beat Machida. I don’t see it. Page doesn’t deal well with guys who can keep distance and Machida is the best at that. As soon as Machida gets his shot, he’s gonna start a very long reign as LHW Champ. I don’t see anyone right now that I think has much of a chance to take him out.

OK Kevin, I gotta say I respectfully disagree:

“He was offered a fight with Rampage after he beat Forrest, on the same amount of rest, and said he wouldn’t have enough time…disgraceful!”

The guy has been fighting regularly for years now, just won what’s arguably the most coveted belt in MMA and wanted some time to enjoy it. I believe any fighter in any weight class should take a little more time than normal to enjoy their new-found accolade when they win it for the 1st time. It’s a great achievement for any fighter and they deserve to take some time to revel in it.

It also needs to be understood that once you become champion the overall scenario and your career change drastically. Your contract needs re-negotiating, priorities change, strategies change, training styles/intensity changes, etc. I know as fan’s we like things to happen on our terms but choosing to re-assess & re-evaluate a situation before rushing forward is the mark of intelligence and wisdom.

“Class is a word some of you throw around too much.”
 
I can’t make you or anyone like the guy & whether or not a person thinks another person has class is totally up to them & their opinion of what class is. I just want to remind people to also consider that it doesn’t take a great personality or star-like charisma to become a great fighter or to become champion. It takes physical ability, hard work, dedication, commitment & pure heart. All of which Rashad has displayed throughout his entire UFC career.

“has never showed empathy or concern for a hurt opponent”

I can agree with you on some things sometimes but this is totally false. I can’t let a statement like this one go because it’ll mislead posters that are still growing as MMA fans. If I knew how to post links I would post a clip of Rashad either walking over and checking on his opponents &/or stating in his post fight interview with Rogan that he hopes they’re OK. He’s been showing empathy and concern right in front of everyone’s faces. THe problem is that people counted him out so often that they were in total shock each time he won and they completely overlooked or ignored what they saw.

good points machine!!

Agree w/ Machine.

well,in fairness,I saw no class in the way rash spoke to page,and definately he showed no class when he knocked out chuck.I mean,how long was chuck on the floor bein seen to,before he broke out in to his retard,chest pain dance routine.the guy is trash.

and as for jardine,i scored it 29-28 to page,with or without whatever went on in the last 10 seconds

what are you talking about, i disagree on everything except for Machine’s post… calling someone a motherf*cker right in their face is too much of a personal attack, he needs to chill out.. being biased and getting all up in a legends face basically calling him a loser is bad business too. talking smack to hype a fight and showboating is another thing called entertainment, see the difference ppl it’s not the same even if you think it is.. as for Rampage you can’t be one of the most inconsistent fighters having won every fight except one that the judges took away from him, that is not possible.. he clearly won over Jardine without a problem! put on mute or watch the fight with commentators from another country, that will change the whole experience!! get someone who can open their eyes while commentating and has a feeling for kickboxing

Rashad looked bad when he commentated the fight and when he stepped up in the ring after the fight, taking things personal equals bad business! showboating and talking smack is ok with me, that’s just entertainment, like it or not! you can do whatever you want to except personally attacking someone and getting in the face of someone like Rampage, who just happens to be the biggest name in the UFC alongside Brock Lesnar..

Man I missed these mornin’ conversations…

seriously??? what did you think of this one! Jesse Holland commenting on my take instead of wishing I’d blow him would be better for the site!

Nice debate. Except for the fact that Machine doesn’t consider shad disrespectful. He can’t talk trash[he resorted to cursing]‘coz he’s trash. He’s gonna lose that belt pretty soon.

Evans vs Machida btw.

Calling it now , from a good source =p .. Page is NOT accepting the fight , he has a elbow and jaw injury. He has the same Dr as Shaq but now the UFC is flying him too Vegas too their Dr’s also ..

My guess is they really dont want boring ass Machida in there so they are doing all they can too set this up.But ive been told from some of his family that he wont be taking it.

Yeah, at worst it would have been 29-28 Jackson. Without the last knockdown it would have been close but I still had Rampage winning. No way could I give it to Jardine.

yes, i doubt that Jardine even landed a punch that scored in that fight.. all he did was throwing weak leg kicks, Jardine was absolutely exhausted after that first round and through the whole fight!

Sounds good homie Bro!!!

what did phil text you that you would think he was “some girl?” what are you too into?
Good story about Serra John, I hope he beats Hughes too!

Lol. My thoughts exactly Kevin.

*two

LOL

John, where did you come across that story? Was the blogger you?

I ask because if Serra is the one telling this story, then that is shameless self promotion.

If it was a “random blogger” from another site, there is no way that we can just presume it to be true.

I also find it odd that a blogger would put his phone number on Serra’s site. Was his phone # in his signature, or did he really expect Serra to call him back? Odd.

I think that Serra just going to try and create as many stories as he can to make Matt Hughes seem like a bigger d*ck than he is. That is the entire story line behind the fight.

NO vM It wasnt me…I read news from other sites, but I dont pay attention to blogging on other sites….It was actually a friend of mine from Canada….he called me personally to tell me about it yesterday….I am sure that he posted it on a site, but I am not sure which site he blogs on.

I would be lying if I said that I know exactly why he posted his # or if it was part of the signature,…I do know that this dude, isnt the type to make up stories….he was extremely shocked to answer his phone sunday and find Serra on the other end. Said Serra was a very kool dude, and that he was one of the easiest people he has ever talked to…

AWESOME STORY JOHN! You may have taken my comment (asking who this mystery caller is) the wrong way after reading all that rudeness in the next thread = WTF?