M-1 Global issues statement regarding positive steroid test for Kirill 'Baby Fedor' Sidelnikov
by Press Release on Mar 4, 2009 11:57 AM EST
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M-1 Global officials first learned that Kirill Sidelnikov failed his post-fight screening for performance enhancing drugs when it was informed late last week by the California State Athletic Commission.
Immediately after the company was notified, an internal investigation was launched. As a part of the investigation, M-1 Global officials spoke with Kirill and asked him to explain his position.
In preparation for his Affliction debut against Paul Buentello in January, Kirill spent some time training outside of the Imperial Team family in St. Petersburg. Kirill indicated that during that time away he began to experience complications from a broken nose that he had recently sustained.
Not wanting to miss any training time leading up to "Day of Reckoning," Kirill followed the advice of a coach not affiliated with M-1 who gave him a nose spray commonly used in Russia to help treat some of his symptoms. It is M-1's belief that the nose spray is what contained the Stanozol.
For those that are skeptical of this explanation, we believe Kirill's account is true based in large part to his physique. If he had been using large amounts of Stanozol on a regular basis, we believe that the frame of his upper body would have contained leaner muscle that had more definition.
While we do not believe the use of a nose spray provided Kirill with an unfair competitive advantage, we are obviously very disappointed in his lapse of judgment. Even though it was only a common nose spray that he used to treat an injury, an athlete must take full responsibility for what he puts into his system at all times. While we are not citing youth as an excuse, we feel we need to offer the public an explanation and we attribute the mistake in part to the fact that Kirill is just 20-years of age.
In spite of our disappointment, Kirill remains a part of the M-1 family and as such, he can continue to count on our support through this turbulent period. While we do not endorse his actions, we stand by him.
M-1 takes full responsibility for Kirill's actions and we respect the decision of the California State Athletic Commission. The organization would also like to make it clear that we do not condone the use of performance enhancing drugs of any kind and we'd like to hereby apologize to the MMA community for Kirill's indiscretion.
M-1 believes that Kirill is one of the top up-and-coming fighters of the sport and after he has served his punishment and is eligible to return, we hope that the public will give him a second chance to prove himself.
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That is one nasty looking photo
by Rashad-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Mar 4, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions
Well he does look like shit so I don’t think it could have been anything else besides a nose spray. It does point out he is only 20 and probably listens to everything anyone tells him. I don’t really see the potential they claim the guy has but I hope his suspension isn’t too harsh, just doesn’t need to happen again.
by c-war on Mar 4, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
“Well he does look like shit so I don’t think it could have been anything else besides a nose spray.”
Yeah, if he’d been using steroids he’d be ripped like Josh Barnett or Tim Sylvia.
by fd on Mar 4, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly, steroids don’t sculpt ones body, they just add muscle.
by Gord on Mar 4, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
wrong some are for sculting and some are for bulking
Stanozolol is a very commonly used anabolic steroid for cutting cycles. While many people will attempt to use Dianabol or even Anadrol for cutting cycles, I´ve really never heard of anyone using Stanozolol for anything except a cutting cycle. It´s a bit of a one-trick-pony in this respect. Let me repeat that: Stanozolol is a cutting drug. Not many people will argue for its use in a bulking cycle. It´s certainly not a very effective compound for treating anemia (1) and thus, one could rightly assume that its role in bulking cycles is very limited. One novel use for Winstrol in any cycle (perhaps even bulking) would be to use it at a very limited dose, in order to lower SHBG. (2) One of the properties of Winstrol is it´s profound ability to lower SHBG much more than other steroids. A dose of .2mg/kg lowered SHBG significantly, which would in turn, raise the amount of free testosterone circulating in the body. As with 99% of steroids, however, it´s important to note that suppression of your natural hormonal levels will occur (though perhaps not to the extent that it will with many other steroids).(10) As with running virtually any compound, testosterone supplementation (i.e. running test in a cycle containing Winstrol) is warranted to avoid possible sexual dysfunction.
by roy on Mar 4, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I actually believe his excuse more than any other guy that got caught cheating!
by john on Mar 4, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
john, you should refrain from commenting on this story. Your love for Fedor doesn’t let you see things clearly.
by Crowls on Mar 4, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Its not that! I just dont think that the Cali athletic commision is any good at their jobs. Seems like when a fighter gets busted it happens in Cali….something fishy with that comission.
by john on Mar 4, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Man f$%k the CSAC. They are all incompetent. But this is on him. I am pretty sure though that the commission will find a way to make a screwed and dumb decision about this finding.
by NameNotRequired on Mar 4, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
If this is what he is claiming, then all he should need to do is bring in the bottle of nose spray.
John- I have to disagree with you on this one, and say that a nose spray is a pretty bad excuse.
by naturalshadow on Mar 5, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Hes no Dolph lundgrin.(Im not looking up how to spell his name)
by Rene Descartes on Mar 4, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
i’m not quite gonna make the leap a lot of ppl will make with this story, but knowing the reputation of Pride having lots of juice monkeys and now a direct connection with Fedor’s camp, it looks pretty sketchy. I’m not saying Fedor’s on the juice, but this does not look good
by Crowls on Mar 4, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions
i’d say the same thing but idk much about the supposed nose spray to say anything
by randy murders on Mar 4, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
there are alot of nasal sprays and medications that contain some form of steroids.
by roy on Mar 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
you can’t just go ahead and take sprays and stuff like that without getting a green light.. and yes check it out! don’t take it too seriously, Russia just happens to be one of my favourite football teams in the world, and a country where some of my favourite athletes is coming from..
by RoB on Mar 4, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting. I hope that’s the truth. Perhaps I’m being naive here but I’ll give him a second chance.
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions
Second chance on the basis that he’s young and he made a stupid decision. I’m beginning to think he knowingly took the stuff but who can say for sure. I think you can actually get some steriods such as Stanozolol in a nasal spray so that looks pretty bad for Kirill.
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Come on. Nose spray…….. He probably tripped and fell on a needle.
by Jo on Mar 4, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions
Aside from Hermes Franca, It seems like everyone has some BS excuse for why they test positive for a banned or controlled substance.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Mar 4, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions
its not always bs, there are wrong tests, and false positives that happen
by roy on Mar 4, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Name the last proven one, please.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Mar 4, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, so you cant. Thanks for clearing that up.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Mar 4, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
no i did, but you can go look them up yourself if you like.
by roy on Mar 4, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Alain Baxter,Andrew Bree, Carl Lewis all failed drug test and where cleared of it.They all tested positive and where overturned.
by roy on Mar 4, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Roy:
Baxter wasnt a false positive. It was more of a “he didnt know” type deal. He was still suspended for 3 months.
Bree was also not a false positive. He too claimed ignorance.
Lewis also was not a false positive. He claimed “no intent” and had inadvertently taken banned substances.
None were false positives which was your original argument.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Mar 4, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
El Mexicutioner you’re right about the false positives thing. I don’t know about Lewis and that other guy Roy mentioned but I do about Andrew Bree.
Yeah Bree tested positive because there was stuff in his system, it’s just that it was completely accidental and he could prove it. You’re right that it wasn’t a false positive. I would presume it has something to do with basic statistics, such as hypothesis testing. You know, like they can limit the chance of an error to 1% at reasonable expense I suppose. It’s type 1 error or something. I know that will have gone over some people’s heads but I guarantee “false positives” do occur, but rarely.
An example of a false positive would be Norwegian javelin thrower Trine Hattestad. She sued the Norwegian Federation for $50k.
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Needless to say we shouldn’t mention false positive about Kirill’s test. He straight up failed.
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
LOL! I was thinking the same thing. What kind of lame @ss excuse is a nose spray?
by JV on Mar 4, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
lame ass excuse???? I doubt it…look at the guy!! I mean c’mon, if he is on steroids he must be doing it wrong cause I’ve seen centerfolds with smaller tits
by McArthur on Mar 4, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, just like A Rod said he didnt know if he was using them right. Besdies it says they “beleive” the sparay had Stanozol in it. Why wouldnt they be able to know if it did or not? Real easy, just read the label.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Mar 4, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, the old, “It didn’t happen in our camp and it was nose spray” excuse.
by William W. on Mar 4, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions
i know right…how many times do we have to hear that one??
by Crowls on Mar 4, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
No way a nasal spray would elevate circulating Stanozol levels.
I’d respect M-1 (or any organization cough, cough baseball) much more if they stood by CSAC and said OK, you’re out for a year. No crazy excuses.
by Scootah on Mar 4, 2009 12:23 PM EST reply actions
Why not? Your body metabolizes substances through the mucas membrane at a shocking rate when taken through the nose. What’s different with Stanozol?
by Clayton on Mar 4, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Sure it metabolizes, but would the mucosa transport enough steroids systemically so that it is detected in the urine or blood?
I guess it depends on the amount they found and when he took it.
by Scootah on Mar 4, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
As soon as it enters the blood stream, which would be almost instantaneous, it would show up in blood tests. It wouldn’t take to long to show up in urine tests, I imagine.
For example when people get high from snorting coke (also almost instant) it’s because the active ingredients in the coke have entered their blood stream. Takes just a few seconds.
by Clayton on Mar 4, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Just looked up some info, inhaled steroids show up in the blood immediately (like you said). But they also decrease very rapidly, basically gone within hours.
But that is inhaled via lungs. A nasal spray has far less surface area to be absorbed, so unless he took a HUGE hit of stanozol nasal spray immediately before the sampling (i.e. right before the fight!), I still don’t see how it could be responsible for a positive test.
by Scootah on Mar 4, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Makes sense. Quick in, quick out i guess. Wonder if the tests pick up residuals of drugs and that’s why he was caught after the fact. Either way, we’re probably better off just not trusting the guy.
by Clayton on Mar 4, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nose spray are for topical use. The only way it would enter the blood stream would be if some is swallowed or some may perfuse through the alveolar capillary membrane in the lungs. Even if that is the case, it would have to be a large amount of nasal spray and is extrememly unlikely. I call BS.
by WCMMA217 on Mar 4, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Not true. the moucous membranes in the sinuses are full of capillaries and absorption of soluble chemicals into the bloodstream is almost instantaneous. It’s not the most efficient method because a lot of the substance never contacts the membranes, but it’s highly effective in lieu of needles.
by Clayton on Mar 4, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Just to add something else that’s noteworthy regarding the nasal spray. This just popped up in my head. I don’t know why I didn’t remember it straight off the bat. It’s about a swimmer who failed a test and had it overturned. He too used a nasal spray of some kind. I thought it was originally an inhaler that caused the positive test, is there some type of nasal asthma thing as well? I have no idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Bree
Check out the link above. Here’s just a short snippet.
In the months leading up to the 2008 olympics he tested positive at a drug test. Bree claimed that he had used a nasal spray and did not know it contained banned substances. The results of the drug test were later overturned and he was allowed swim at the Beijing Olympics.
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions
I doesnt say stanozol. It doesnt say what drug it was at all.
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Mar 4, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t Stanozol. It was Levmethamfetamine whatever that is. I’d imagine it’s not as strong a steroid as stanozol but they do have different types of steroids in inhalers.
Not sure about stanozol in inhalers or this nasal spray that Kirill supposedly used. I’m justing using Bree as a similiar example. Just proving the point that it can happen accidently and unwittingly and perhaps we shouldn’t jump the gun here. I know it’s a convenient excuse but I’m undecided on the matter. I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt but I don’t know.
I wonder how high the levels were, that would probably be a good indicator.
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
With all that being said it does smell fishy. I’m actually going to take the unusual French approach here and say guilty until proven innocent rather than the other way round. It’s an awfully convenient excuse that they’ve come out with. I wonder what the levels were.
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
And you people think all UFC heroes are clean?!? Come on!!
by MAd Man on Mar 4, 2009 12:38 PM EST reply actions
Brock is all natur….hahahaha! I couldn’t even get that out without laughing!
by BOW on Mar 4, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
what the fuck are you talking about kid? when was that even a topic of conversation here? U wanna bash the UFC, ok we get it. This thread is about a non-UFC fighter from Fedor’s camp and at this point there are only 12 posts(none of which suggest that the UFC is entirely clean. In fact, one mentions one guy who was caught in the UFC and served his suspension).
by Crowls on Mar 4, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not his fault, he’s probably young and someone told him it would be a good idea to write that post.
by GregC on Mar 4, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Russians never get caught cheating in sports, Im shocked!!!!
by the spyder on Mar 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions
Yea this must be the first time in history a russian is getting caught for using illegal substances… ;)
by Lester the Pimp on Mar 4, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
he is russian and i know that he took some illegal substances.. he looks like a f’in fat girl! it must be embarrassing to be the fat kid!
by RoB on Mar 4, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions
I wonder if I can pick up some of this nose spray at my local Walgreens…I’m trying to bulk up.
by fat little kid on Mar 4, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions
Oh, bullshit.
A steroid nose spray would almost certainly be a corticosteroid to reduce inflammation.
The kind of steroids that athletes use are typically anabolic steroids.
Besides, a nose spray delivers a tiny amount of steroids. Flonase, a typical allergy sprayer, delivers 50 micrograms per squirt. Stanozolol, according to Wiki, is used at a dose of 50 mg per day. So he’d have to take 1000 squirts of a nasal inhaler.
Not to mention that the same wiki article says Stanozol is taken orally or injected; it’s not delivered in a nose spray. So how could he have bought a common russian nose spray of Stanozol?
by Mark on Mar 4, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions
I think they’re saying his nose spray had stanozol, not that it was an over the counter nose spray. It would not be hard to deliver a much higher dose if you made the nose spray yourself.
by Clayton on Mar 4, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I just don’t believe them. Anabolic steroids would be a very strange treatment for his nose problem, and it would be a very unusual way to deliver an anabolic steroid. A flonase canister holds 128 puffs of 50 mcg each. If you somehow fixed it to fire off all of it at once (OUCH!), that’d still be around 630 mcg, or .6 mg…less than 1% of a single normal dose taken orally.
I also have a hard time believing that the test equipment would even detect that tiny of an amount. Most of it would get blocked by the tissue, and only a tiny amount would get through to the bloodstream.
by Mark on Mar 4, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
its not that it had anabolic steroids in it, its that it made a false postive test.Carl Lewis tested positive and so have other athletes for using vicks, all cleared and overturned.
by roy on Mar 4, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Inhalers for asthma will make you fail a test too!
by RobH86 on Mar 4, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
He was young, dumb and his cousin bought it over the counter in the Dominican Republic.
by RiverHorror on Mar 4, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions
In the Dominican Republic where they put expensive steroids in over the counter nose sprays? I hate it when that happens. It’s like that time I went to Mexico and bought a pinata filled with candy only to find when I burst it open, the assholes at the pinata shop had actually filled the pinata with thousands of dollars worth of heroine. Worst $5 I ever spent on a pinata.
by Clayton on Mar 4, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! nice RiverHorror LMAO!!!! thats great.
by the spyder on Mar 4, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Plausible deniability or wha?
Just be men and accept your responsibilities.
Being young is a lame excuse too.
by scissorfight on Mar 4, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions
Sean Sherk denies it everytime he gets caught and is still alot of peoples favorite fighter, I dont get that!!!!! then he shows up clean and gets his ass handed to him. I hate Sean Sherk and think he should be thrown out of the UFC, nobody should be allowed to be caught once let alone more than once!!!!!
by the spyder on Mar 4, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions
How many times did Sherk get busted?So a person on roids(get busted)looks like he eats donuts for training.its , hes not on them .bullshi pro tennis players take roids (some) and there not big and powerfull looking.But they go from a 95 mile/hr serv to 125.Sherks a freak of nature, get over it and move on.Cause if you stick up for one (who gets busted) and not the other ,well your just a bigTOOL!!!!
by durty kurty on Mar 4, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions
I dont stick up for anyone that has been busted using roids, I think if you get busted your out, not to be trusted again. Bonnar, Sherk, Leben, Baby Fedor, etc whoever I dont care who it is. I believe Kirril used steroids, easy there bud and I do believe that Sherk has been caught twice at least in the UFC. I also feel the same way about other sports.
by the spyder on Mar 4, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions
“who gave him a nose spray commonly used in Russia to help treat some of his symptoms. It is M-1’s belief that the nose spray is what contained the Stanozol.”
If it is so commonly used, why does it have no name? Why is there no further information on it? And no clarification if that belief is true?
Sounds like BS to me.
by DirtyML on Mar 5, 2009 3:27 AM EST reply actions
You have to be retarded if you believe his excuse, and be massively ignorant if you find it surprising for a fighter (or any athlete) to be caught using steroids… I’d be surprised to learn of an athlete who is 100 percent natural.
I’m not supporting the use of roids in sports.. just saying that most people in sports have done them at one point or another.
by .... on Mar 5, 2009 8:05 AM EST reply actions
My guess is that 95% of pro fighters are cycling off some sort of banned substance (except for Nick Diaz…he has medical clearance). When there is actually testing done often (and on a random, “no notice to fighters” basis), and BLOOD tests are included, and they still test clean…then I’ll say otherwise. Until then, I stand by my 95% statement. Kirill was just stupid and naive by not cycling off soon enough. Just like Silvia, Barnett, Sherk, Leben, Royce, Franca, etc….
by introvert on Mar 5, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions
The other fighters are probably using some variation of Growth Hormone that they haven’t been able to detect yet, I know alot of the Welsh rugby team use it and don’t get caught.
by Kip on Mar 5, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions
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