LMFAO! What is Tim thinking if he does this. He is still ranked a top ten in the heavy weight divsion. Kimbo submitted this guy.

Tim is just looking for a win some how. First it was Shamrock and now Mercer. No one else wants Tim in their org. I am surprised he hasnt gone to Dream or Sengoku.

Also Herring is going to get ground and pounded out and probably in the first round. He is to scared to stand up now that he got his face broken by one of Lesnar’s punches. He has not looked good in the UFC except when he nearly knocked Nog out.

he looked good against Imes and Kongo

i personally believe it makes a big difference if you’ve faced the better opponents but that argument can go either way if you start using facts

Bluepit: I think Sylvia ran out of money from his last Affliction fight so he’s takin’ on anyone who could give him bread.

I just heard that the Tim and Mercer fight will probably be boxing rules and not mma regulations. Weird.

I’m dying to see Valasquez vs Dos Santos. That will be the most exciting heavyweight fight in the UFC for a long time. Gonzaga/Carwin should be great too. Who do you you guys have winning that one?

I think Gonzaga will win but I’m pulling for Carwin. Gonzaga had a perfect chance to be champ and blew it, time for someone else to take a shot.

I think that Heath Herring is a legitimate gatekeeper for the upper echelon of the HW division. The elite fighters should beat him, but he should beat the non-contenders. Not a glamorous role for him, but he’s a great litmus test for fighters in the HW division.

Well said.

i actually believe this will be a fight that goes to a decision but still and easy win for Cain if he takes it to the ground. If Cain wants to stand and trade then I dont know how it goes. Crazy horse has fought two other wrestlers in the ufc and has been beat easily by both. (Lesnar and Jake O’brien) Unless Cain just wants to try and make a name for himself by standing and trading i dont see Cain having any problems. Hearring has a 66% win loss record. He is definately a gate keeper. Not a top 20 Heaveyweight.

and Heath still beats Mir in a fight..

Herring would destroy Frank Mir!

Herring beat Mir?! Alrighty.

I like Heath Herring… alot. I am a huge fan of Heath… I don’t care whether he wins or loses I just love watching him fight. That being said, I hope Cain smashes his face in because I want to see any of the folowing fights….
Carwin vs. velasquez
Carwin vs. Lesnar
Velasquez vs Mir
Velasquez vs Lesnar

herring would whoop mir.

Herring’s takedown defense is laughable at times, and once an opponent takes him down at will a few times, he loses ALL confidence in himself. This is a perfect fight for Cain to break out onto the “big scene” in the UFC HW division!

Mir will probably face Herring at some point after Lesner beats him and his next few opponents, and then after Herring beats him we will probably see him fighting in Affliction. It really amazes me how some fans can be impressed by him beatng an inxperienced Lesner and him putting on a mediocre stand up display to beat Nog who was just a human punching bag. Mir will drop back down as quickly as he has recently come up.

Ade: U couldnt be more correct! GREAT POST!!!

herring doesnt suck on the ground and you really want to have a look at who valesques has faced who is any good on the ground before you make a comparison of the two

jake o’brian is supposedly good on the ground and schooled Herring on the ground. theyve both fought him and you can take a poke at who came out looking like the better fighter at the end of the matches

herring got out from under a much more decorated,much stronger,much faster brock lesnar so i would say ground wise velasquez wont do much, i see heath winnin by tko round2

O’brian didn’t do any damage to Heath whatsoever. He showed he could hold him down but that was all. The only thing their fights against him showed was that O’brian is a better wrestler than Herring, and O’brian has a terrible bottom game. Cain can take down Heath if he wants to, but he’ll have a difficult time doing serious damage to him once he gets him there. I’ve got Cain by decision.

I think Cain will win because he will be better than Heath on the ground. Heath Herring has zero take down defense so the fight WILL go to the ground. I mean Kongo even took herring down.

Jake O’Blanket took lay-n-pray to staggering new lows against Herring. Herring was never able to sweep or come close to a sub. He just got double-legged all night. And don’t even try to tell me that Herring could get up from under Brockness. That face-crushing punch he ate 3 seconds into the fight did him in. He spent the next 14:57 in the turtle position. For Herring to have any chance against Brown Pride he needs to keep it standing.

naah~ heath vs cain is the fight to see.. i love this match-up!

heath is a top hw fighter in the ufc..

this is exactly what cain needs for his next opponent.

dos santos is still unknown to the casual fans..

dont get me wrong~ i would love to see him and santos fight.

but we still dont know a whole lot about dos~

heath has fought forever~ and we all know he brings it!

everyone wants to see valesquz bang with a top fighter.

give him a name~ and dos santos is not a popular name[yet]..

i say this is a great fight we have on our hands fellas.

say word~

Word~ I totally agree with you on this one stink. I think that Herring is a perfect opponent for Cain, just like Gonzaga is a perfect opponent for Carwin. Both guys needed a step up in competition, and both are getting it. I can’t wait to see how they handle fighting guys who have faced top-level competition.

exactly~ and if all works out as planned.

it could set up a huge fight between gonzaga and cain..

everybody has been wanting to see gg-cain..

i think joe silva did a good job on this one[4 a change]..

i would like to see dos santos fight some relevant fighters as well..

who do u suggest would be a good opponent, for right now??

i cant really think.~ kongo would be good but he has a fight booked.

word to both posts~

u guys make some great points.

gregc~ u r 100% right man~ both of these guys needed a step up.

im really looking forward to that fight!

i dont think i can bet on that fight~ too close.

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c-war~ hey u bit my style.wtf mang??.~j/k its all good,

good point as well~ everyone including myself

has been calling for gonzaga~cain..

this is a great way for cain to get a fight like that..

=beat a top fighter like heath.

also~ lol at the joe silva comment.. i think he does a pretty good job myself..

say word.

There aren’t a lot of options for Junior at the moment. However, I think that Mike Ciesnolevicz would be a good opponent for him. He has a lot of experience and he looked pretty good in his last fight. I know he’s fought often as a LHW, but given the depth of talent in the UFC, I think he’s better served fighting at HW. It would also be a good step forward for whoever won the fight. Thoughts?

thats what i was thinking.. i just looked at the UFC website, and unfortunatly for Dos Santos, there is not a whole lot of fighters with big names.

im not sure if i have seen Mike Ciesnolevics???

I will have to look him up. thanks!

Stinky~ sorry to bite your style[lmao] i really wasn’t trying to be rude. i just think it is easier to read sometimes?

and u really think joe silva does a good job??

u were being sarcastic, right??

word. lol

gregc~ u pretty much just summed it up.

yup~ dos santos will have to fight newer guys like mike..

the ufc has dropped off a lot of hw talent and wants to build

up a strong division with new names~

but the problem is that they dont have alot of named fighters

willing to fight a ‘no name’..

i think santos vs. mike would be a good fight..

and yes~ i do think j~silva does a good enough job.[real talk]

u have to understand the buisness behind some decisions..

he cant always please the fans u know.

he has to book money fights for his bosses time to time~

HOld up Fellas. YOu guys are making some great points today, and I feel left out…. Mind if I jump in this debate?

Perfect match making by Joe Silva. Gonzaga/Carwin and Cain/Herring a PERFECT match ups. We all know that Carwin, and Cain have tons of potential.,…but these match ups will tell us if they are ready to fight top dogs, or if they need more warm up fights against Puppies. I think that both Carwin and Cain are capable of pulling off upsets in their up coming fights, but it wont be easy. gOnzaga is NO JOKE, and he has yet to perform to the best of his capabilities, thats Y I dont understand how so many of you can write this young Monster oFF!!!

Herring is a lot better than most of yo give him credit for. He is very tough to FINISH!!!! The guy’s best assets are that he is just a tough dude, and has a world of experience under his belt. Beating him WILL nOT be easy for Cain! If Gonzaga and Herring each win their fight….I would like to see those 2 matched up against each other.

As for the Dos Santos Conversation. The guy is a STUD in the making. I say his next opponent should be one of these fighters:
Pat Berry, Kongo, or Hardonk. YOu match up Dos against any of these 3 fighters and you have a flawless recipe for Fight of the night/Ko of the night!

MIke Ciez is still a no name dude. If Santos is going to fight a guy without a big name it should be Berry or Hardonk because stylistically those fighters suit him the best: Stand UP War! I say lets see if he can beat another good striker before we match him up against wrestlers and Grapplers. Fastest way to build a young star is to give him a chance at Highlight KO’s. Santos has burst onto the scene with 2 Big Ko/tKO finishes over legit top 10 HW (worldwide), Werdum, and the Struve the String Bean (both Ko’s were aired on ppv)….Get this kid another KO on PPV, and casual fans will TAKE notice!

NO way Stinky! Bad Match up!

Best match up for Dos would be:

Dos Santos vs. Pat Berry/Hardonk

Cies was just on that freebie in London and beat some chump with a leg lock. He needs a couple more wins before he gets thrown in against the big names. But I like these two fights. Those four can sort themselves out and get in line to fight the Brockness after he dismantles Murr.

That’s why I think Mike C fighting Dos Santos would be a good fight. Neither guy has a big name, but their both talented prospects. And I would love to see Dos Santos fight Pat Berry, but he’s already booked to fight. I’m not sure what’s on Hardonk’s radar, but that would be a good fight as well. Dos Santos can’t just fight strikers until he gets up to the contenders, or he will be destroyed when he faces a guy with a good ground game. He needs to be tested against a guy like Mike C who has a solid grappling base so we can see how well rounded Dos Santos is.

this is a real test for cain and should be a solid measuring stick. Herring is no joke regardless of what some of these guys say. He hits very hard and avoids subs well.

BTW just checked his record out of curiosity, can’t blv he fought evan tanner and vitor belfort. Also he fought 13 TIMES in ‘99. 13 times…that’s crazy.

Wait, Dos Santos never fought in the IFL. Or am I missing something?