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Jesus christ leave it a lone already.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

booo hooo im BJ Penn and I dont know when to shut my spoiled rich kid mouth and stop making excuses… I could care less if we ever saw this crybaby fight again… man I cant stand people like him, who have everything handed to them their whole lives and still have a s**t personality

by brendan on Feb 19, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

what a great video. if it didn’t come from bjpenn.com it would have been a video where it didn’t show such bitterness
Don’t think we’ll ever see a GSP/Penn 3, but it is showing a great point. Can’t use it, other then your face

if you see Clay Guida, his brother slaps him after the vasaline to the face then, pats him on the back.. not hard to see that he was nice and slicked up

by Mikeybear2009 on Feb 19, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

lol mikeybear, give it up… youre fighting a losing battle, everyone sees penn for the chump he is and theres no going back… save what little dignity you have left penn fans!

by brendan on Feb 19, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m a gsp fan, i like penn but i didn’t see vasaline on penn.

by Mikeybear2009 on Feb 19, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

anyone who thinks there would have been any difference in the gsp penn fight is crazy! vasoline wouldn’t have stopped penn gassing completly out in the 2nd or have stopped the takedowns or the gnp or the raping gsp put on the chunky 155’er who tried to step up!

by sac165 on Feb 19, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

hate to break it to you there nate but your not speaking for “everyone” you can speaking for yourself

this fight will go down in history just like barry bonds HR record the NSAC said gsp had an unfair advantage in this fight for a reason because he did gsp and his camp are dumb asses for not following the rules and getting caught now his victory is tainted

BJ has every right to be pissed off and I for one hope that this fight gets overturned to a no-contest

I still think gsp would beat bj if they faught again but thats not the point the point is gsp broke the rules and he should be held accountable for his actions thats the bottom line just like evry other fighter that gets busted they get punished by suspension or fine or both

by dia mette on Feb 19, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant brendan not nate

by dia mette on Feb 19, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope that a fan made that video, because if it was B.J., then I have lost any thread of respect I still had for him. This isn’t so much about pointing out possible cheating in mma, as it is about having an excuse for losing to GSP in glorious fashion. Right now Florian is training for the fight of his life, and if B.J. is at home making videos, he isn’t going to have any belts. There isn’t going to be a Penn/GSP 3, mostly because if there was, whatever is left of Penn will be gathered and stored in a Sucret’s box.

by naturalshadow on Feb 19, 2009 4:07 AM EST up reply actions  

If this isn’t about the fight, but about preventing it from happening in the future as this video claims at the end then why doesn’t he let it be already. The UFC has changed its rules regarding the use and application of vaseline and taken it out of the corner’s hands. So if that is truely BJ Penn’s intention than he has resolved the issue. This is so transparent it’s not even funny. This is all just sour grapes and excuses. This whole thing has ruined my appreciation for BJ. Ruined it.

by DB on Feb 19, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions  

this here is a great video… i like it~ good break down.

i like all the different camera shots thruogh out the video.

*my take on some of the points made by team penn~

1st~ anything sherk and hughes have to say will never be taken serious.

~i feel that gsp corner men knew what they were doing.

~but i feel george ‘butters’ st. pierre did not know!

~ i dont think butters is a cheat..

~ i think the outcome of the fight would have been the same.

~ but i think this situation needs to be the example setter!

~and this type of behavior should be watched with a closer eye.

this video needed to be put out its not just about bj ‘whinning’.

cause i feel that is not the case.

like i said i feel the outcome would have still been a bj loss.

very good example above about huggie bear getting vasoline put on~

and then slapped in the face and then pat on the back by his brother.

these little tricks need to be stopped!

i dont feel butters pierre is a cheat but ‘nurse’ is shystee and

i never trusted jackson..

by stinky~fingers on Feb 19, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

where is my post mania>??

i usually get right up :) i dont even think i cussed?

by stinky~fingers on Feb 19, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

lol Sticky I agree with you…Penn has no business fighting at 170….grease or not he has nothing but excuses= I won the first fight,I wasn’t in shape for hughes, and now he was greased…..that being said, if they do have a rematch…. Penn vs Kenny should be at UFC 100 along with GSP vs Alves….if they both win big then maybe.

by Robert(1) on Feb 19, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

good post stink! where you at??? you’re up early if you’re here in oakland!

by kevin on Feb 19, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

stinky, they don’t give shit if you cuss.

by Nokimono on Feb 19, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Stink, finally a guy who picked GSP with some sense. I obviously side with BJ and I feel the result would have been the same as well, but that doesn’t mean GSP and his corner shouldn’t be exposed for cheating. They have already changed the rules about corner guys and vasaline. So I say it’s all good.

by BNF on Feb 19, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Word BNF! WORD.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think GSP intentionally cheated nor do I think that the outcome would have been different, but this is a subject that needs to be addressed!

GO on the net and do some research on the subject. Yesterday, Big JOhn had a nice long quote about how bad of a problem greasing iS and has been in the sport. He says fighters take baths in baby oil, or some type of minerals that dont show up until a fighter starts sweating….and then the grease is released from their pores.

instead of you guys bitching at BJ for being a cry baby, take it for what it is….a SERIOUS problem in the sport of mma that NEEDS to be addressed!

by john on Feb 19, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree for the most part. It does need to be addressed and it was a lame move on Nurse’s behalf. BJ has made his point though, and I think it’s time for him to leave it alone and move on. GSP would smash him 9 times out of 10 w/ out vaseline.

by LJ on Feb 19, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

when i first saw the post, i was like “oh no BJ, come on, leave it alone”. then i watched the video and it was pretty solid. Like most of the ppl on here who make sense, I think the grease did play a role in the fight and was totally inappropriate, however, even without it BJ wasn’t going to win that fight and I hope they don’t fight again. There really is no point. If they set this up, it will purely be financially motivated and will hurt the UFC’s credibility in my eyes. I know they set up marketable fights, but in most cases they are at least competetive. I’m not so sure this one would be and they’d be holding up the belts again for an extended period of time. Unfortunate series of events, but let’s all just let this one rest and the commissions need to watch fights closely from here on out.

by Crowls on Feb 19, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a huge problem with the BJ and co. trying to make it look like Georges was intentionally striking him in the back of the head. BJ kept turning the back of his head towards the where GSP was striking. Watch it again I’m telling you. Half those in the vid were fine they were to the side. Just watch it again, numerous times GSP is striking him fairly then BJ turtles and buries his face into the mat.

Cry me a river BJ.

by RobH86 on Feb 19, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Penn is a spoiled baby I hope GSP gets to spank his ass again Penn deserves another beating. Penn when you go to bed tonight take a good 20…30 minutes or so to think what a cy baby p@ssy your being…cry it out there you go now catch those tears …….you got them now add some vasoline with your tears and go f*ck youself.

by Hello on Feb 19, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that if B.J. wants to fight GSP again, then he can give up the lw title and move up to ww. If he is able to beat the other top guys in ww, then he can have his re-rematch. To be honest, I don’t think he can do it. Alves and Fitch are a lot tougher than Joe Daddy.

by naturalshadow on Feb 19, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Rob, ok, that turning the head thing happens all the time and it’s up to the guy doing the striking to stop himself. I don’t wanna hear you bitch about Mir getting stood back up against Lesnar cuz that was the same situation. Same goes for everyone who cries about the “illegal elbows” by florian against Lauzon. Joe buried his head and they were still to the top of the head in my opinion.

by Crowls on Feb 19, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

How can anyone be a fan of this guy? Never stops whining, ever. Am gonna go watch that beatdown now. Best vid to turn to whenever BJ comes out with more excuses.

by NameNotRequired on Feb 19, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw you guy. BJ kicks by far. IF GSP didn’t grease like that, you know he would have tapped out. And whats all this talk about being rich and spoiled. Whats wrong if BJ is rich. You jealous buddy. People like you, I wish I can take in the ring and pound.

by Paul on Feb 19, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Paul: GSP would NOT have tapped, all B.J. was doing was going for high guard, the grease didnt help GSP out of one position, dont be a fan, be a realist

by Dave on Feb 19, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m as big a BJ fan as anyone.. but I don’t think he would have won this fight if GSP hadn’t greased… that being said.. its such BS that he did because he tainted a good win.. Like whoever said before its the asterisk on BB’s home runs.

by Sp00ner1234 on Feb 19, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

please Paul, show us where in that fight did BJ attempt to go for a submission? Oh wait he didn’t he was too busy getting his face pounded in.

by liukangstoupee on Feb 19, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

@Paul

Send me a plane ticket and Ill come and fight you. I think your post is completely irrelevant, so does that mean you want to pound my face in? I have no problem letting you give it your best shot. Hell, Ill let you “grease” too. Dont come on here and say “People like you, I wish I can take in the ring and pound.” I think Im like that person your talking about. I think BJ is a spoiled brat who is having a hard time dealing with getting dominated. I also think he is a great fighter at his proper weight class. He got dominated.. straight up. Im seriously game. Anytime buddy. Its people like you that make me write posts like this.

by enzo-enormous on Feb 19, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

submission attempts often come out of a high guard, so if he was unable to get into that position it would be much harder for him to try for an armbar or use an omo to sweep or get back up.

by Crowls on Feb 19, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

lol enzo, I thought about writing the same thing, but my days of hurting people are over…5 years ago, I would have happily broke both his arms and pissed on his face…not in a gay way!!

by kevin on Feb 19, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post Enzo!

by LJ on Feb 19, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

wAR ENZO!!!!

by john on Feb 19, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheating is cheating. GSP is a cheater!

by That1Guy on Feb 19, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohhhhh look at me i’m BRENDAN and I love GSP..Hes so gorgeous..Get over it clown, ur boy GSP cheated and is going to get reprimanded. I’m tired of donkeys and clowns like Brendan that can’t admit when their fighter participated in wrongful behavior.

by BrendanIsBeat on Feb 19, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ Penn has a Vagina or if you want a Mangina.

by Puck Head on Feb 19, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ still works hard when he fights. Just because he comes from a family with money doesn’t prove anything about whining. If he wasn’t a good fighter he wouldn’t be in UFC! You idiot! The truth was shown to you! He won’t get that fight back but something should be done about the vaseline problem. That’s the fact. So you crying that he is rich makes you look dumb for bringing it up, as well as jealous. Just because people have money doesn’t mean they don’t work hard for it. Get over it. He has money so what.

by KT on Feb 20, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

If the vaseline didn’t make that much of a difference, then why did GSP use it?

by ??? on Feb 20, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Bj didnt make that claim other people did and it has nothing to do with Bj penn that gsp greased. gsp is a greasing loser, he may have won that fight but he showed his true character a low life scum.

by andy on Feb 24, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree- but you know whats funny?? they interviewed one of the greatest baby’s in all of MMA (Matt hughes) when in their second fight it was 98% stand up, then in their 3rd fight the only time Matt was able to get a hold of GSP was when GSP did that Judo throw- and Sean sherk just got out muscled by a younger fighter- whats funny is that NEITHER Josh Kosheck who out of all of st.peirre’s last 5 fights was the only one to get top position has complained about this whole grease business- and then you got John Fitch who again was wrestling St.peirre for a good full round hasn’t complained hmmm ??? anyone else notice this ??

by ricky on Feb 19, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter what Hughes or Sherk said or what Kos didn’t say. You can SEE it on the video, plain as day. He was greased, and greased over a large surface area. I don’t think GSP meant to do it, but I think his nurse did, and the fight should be ruled a no contest. All throughout the fight BJ threw his legs up into a high guard and slipped, I remember thinking that it was weird during the fight, but figured it was just sweat. You can’t say that you think the outcome would have been the same, that’s just predicting and personal preference, same that you would do if the fight hadn’t happened yet. The fight was most certainly unfair, and though we all can’t stand BJ, in this specific case he is, unfortunately, justified in his complaints. But because a third fight won’t happen for the sake of UFC reputation, Neither BJ nor GSP will be able to prove themselves.

by DoctorSamson on Feb 19, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,I mentioned the exact same thing about Kos and Fitch losing like real men . Sherk and Hughes never got anywhere near feeling grease, except from the grease on his gloves that they put there from their faces. Also this video is pathetic with WAY to much spin. BJ’s back looked shiney too, as all sweaty fighter do. They mention some other WHINERS who got embarassed by GSP, yet are to dense to realize that those fights were LONG before GSP was even with Jackson. I guess GSP can talk all his trainers into cheating for him. Lets face it, GSP has to cheat or he wouldn’t have beat anyone. The truth is GSP beats them so bad, that they have to desparately find a reason why they looked like amatures against him.

by Gord on Feb 20, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

What would you rather have as our topic? This video will be a perfect blow to all the GSP internet people, if it hurts below the belt then maybe you shouldn’t get a hard-on everytime you see a slicked up GSP in the ring. He’s not the only fighter that does it, but he did get caught with controversy in the first highly anticipated fight of the year = more money for GSP, BJ, and the UFC.

by Rancho Coocoo on Feb 19, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The most interesting thing about this is what Dana says immediately after the fight- “George is in trouble.”

by Kdog on Feb 19, 2009 6:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Get over it … Bj Penn u lost because you have crappy cardio… done.

by Fender on Feb 19, 2009 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It is going to be a great joy seeing either Florian beat BJ and if not Diego Sanchez for sure to destroy BJ. I wonder what excuse that looser will have then.

by Derek on Feb 19, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

you’re on crack… theres no way he BJ loses to fag flo

by Sp00ner1234 on Feb 19, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

When you call my favorite fighter a “looser” can you at least spell it right loser . . .

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ=one of the most overrated/overhyped fighters in UFC history.

by Diceman on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

he he, ok Diceboy.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto!

by JOHN is young.. he just wants to be cool on Feb 19, 2009 3:12 AM EST up reply actions  

every gsp fan shut the hell up so wat if bj has money he has more skill then u ever will and u couldent stand 30secs in the cage gsp chetted stop wineng u little bitchs

by gh on Feb 19, 2009 5:12 AM EST up reply actions  

“chetted stop wineng”

Brilliant!!

by McArthur on Feb 19, 2009 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

he must be an ex-french canadian, thats why he’s so bitter

by denniskuderjr on Feb 19, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not even going to start taking apart this argument. No, yes I am..

I’m a GSP fan, why should I shut up? I have not complained about GSP having grease on his body. His corner did in fact put vas on his shoulders, intentionally or not it was there.

I could care less how much money BJ has.

Yes, BJ has more skill than I as a pro fighter, but I’m not a pro fighter. Thus, you point makes no sense. I assume I have more skill running a bankruptcy firm than BJ has, but that is not BJ’s job. Apples and oranges my friend.

I have stood in a cage for 30 sec. Thus, this point is false.

I’m not sure what chetted is. GSP might very well have chetted. Can anyone help me out here?

And you final points…I’m not sure what wineng is so I don’t believe I have ever done that or eating it, but who knows. Finally, since I have a penis, by definition I can’t be a bitch; a douche or prick is still a possibility.

by Jeff on Feb 19, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Entertainingly articulate verbal beat-down.

by GregC on Feb 19, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I beg to differ on this one. I’m 6’2 weigh 220 and started boxing at the age of 12 till I was 18. I also have been training for the last 3 years at Legends MMA. I think that i will last more than 30 second with that chump. Speak for yuurself on that one buddy.

by danny_c on Feb 19, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

that would be 31 sec then lol

by verbal heroes on Sep 3, 2009 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

That wsa a luagh:) Could stupid people please stay off the boards. I prefer to argue and/or exchange ideas with smart people.

by DH on Feb 19, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck u bj penn just drop this already

by Jared on Feb 19, 2009 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

First off, I am a big fan of gsp. It absolutely pisses me off that he had vaseline on him. There is no debate about that. We can debate about whether it was enough vaseline to truly make a difference, but I want others opinions on a few other points. First, it was a stated strategy for gsp to remain upright in guard to make the rubber guard difficult. I understand that vaseline would help this strategy, however, after the first round the rubber guard was going to be a challenge with or without vaseline because of sweat. Second, wouldn’t any vaseline on gsp find its way onto bj’s hands and body? Wouldn’t he be slick as well? If so, why didn’t gsp have any issues controlling bj? Of course the proportion of vaseline would always be greater on gsp, but its still of consideration. Last, There could have been seven Matt Hughes in the octagon vs gsp, and gsp could’ve been covered in glue and it wouldnt have mattered. Hughes just can’t compete with the more complete fighters of today. He dominated in the same fashion that Tito did, size strength and superior wrestling. Not good enough to have one method of offeense.

by crinow on Feb 19, 2009 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I have to say, BJ pushing George’s face up and then putting his arms around him would have moved as much Vas and what the corner guy did.

The only way to keep this kind of thing from happening is to lose the Vas entirely. Means more cuts and scars, more for the press to complain about.

There’s as much transfer from BJ getting mauled as the corner guy.

by Jas on Feb 19, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Great point. Vaseline transfer happens in every single fight. Some to a higher or lesser degree’s than others but still it happens in every single fight.

by Machine on Feb 19, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it all has to do with where the Vaseline is applied. BJ would not have gotten it on his back and shoulders, but on the insides of his legs, making it more difficult to stay in guard and pull a rubber guard, both of which I think we can see from the fight. GSP passed BJ’s guard with ease and stayed very high in the guard, higher than I’ve seen anyone ever do in a fight. The difference between the talent of these fighters is not large enough to justify the beating BJ got. Simply put, the fight would have been much closer without the grease. Would BJ have beaten GSP? I can’t say that. But I can say that the fight was unfair.

by DoctorSamson on Feb 19, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the difference is big enough and GSP is bigger, better cardio, faster, smarter and stronger. I’m surprised more people didn’t see the one sided beat down coming. BJ loses 10 out of 10 times and I hope they fight again, with NO vas what so ever, not even on BJ’s face and then he will get KOed in the second round and all this blown out of proportion bullshit can be laid to rest.

by Gord on Feb 20, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Laughable.

by sirchokemout on Feb 19, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m a big time GSP fan, but I think it’s crazy that people don’t think this is a big deal, or even crazier that it’s the popular opinion that this in no way affected the outcome of the fight. When the best grapplers and wrestlers in the UFC (world) say they can’t hold onto him, that’s pretty damning evidence.

by Ryan Jordan on Feb 19, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is it damning evidence, if all the whiners that GSP HUMILIATED said shit to justify how bad they got destroyed. If GSP is going to grease why would he grease against lesser opponents like Hughes and Sherk and not against Kos and Fitch? It’s pretty obvious that the guys who ALWAYS have excuses are the ones complaining and guys like Kos and Fitch who take their losses like a man, said GSP wasn’t greasy. It’s not a big deal,because no matter how that LITTLE bit of vas got on GSP’s back,more vas gets smeared all over EVERY fighter from their faces. The commission wiped GSP’s (sweat and naturally ocurring vas from the fight)back every round after the first and BJ didn’t get wiped. If anything BJ had an advantage. Joe Rogan doesn’t just say they are so slippery now from all the sweat for nothing you know. BJ ate a BIG shot near the beginning of the second and he was out and fighting on auto pilot. It was only a matter of time until GSP finished him and the vas had nothing to do with it. BJ just lasted so long because he has a hard head. You watch, after the new rules are in place, Guys will still have the same problems of holding GSP’s head, because he sweats like a pig and he is so strong he can just posture up.

by Gord on Feb 20, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Its worth looking into as much as possible! We need fairness in fights. I still give BJ a chance if GSP isn’t greased. THATS WHAT BJJ IS ALL ABOUT. ITS SOLE PURPOSE IS TO GIVE YOU AN ADVANTAGE OVER LARGER OPPONENTS. PENN IS ONE OF THE BEST BJJ PLAYERS ON EARTH. I said right when all this hoop-la started that I saw Penn’s legs sliding down GSP’s back. I glad this video can remind everyone of how that Vaseline effected the fight. In my mind the only thing that can make this right is a rematch.

BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!

by Nokimono on Feb 19, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I not a BJ Penn fan. I think he is a great fighter but i dont like him as a person.

On the other hand i think GSP is a gentleman and an amazing fighter. I have lost a lot of respect for him now. I don’t even think about BJ in this matter. He out of my mind. I just don’t understand how he is getting the blame for GSP cheating. I hate cheaters.

by S S 1134 on Feb 19, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ’s such a loser… he lost the fight, period!

by RoB on Feb 19, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

b.j. equals nothing, what a fuck stick, please dana, give us gsp/penn 3 so we can see the complete and utter destruction of the prodigy, b.j. penn , and all his nuthuggers need to stfu. and let this complete bullshit excuse die a thousand deaths, please, he,(b.j.) was destroyed at all areas of the fuckin fight, then threw in the towel, period, no room for any other issues, he quite like a bitch, so bitch off b.j.

by daz on Feb 19, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

another of those millions internet heroes that doesnt know wth they are all talking about lol

Poor kid / kids

by verbal heroes on Sep 3, 2009 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Not anyone thats Bad Mouthing BJ has had a real fight EVER..Or trains…I think the video gets the point across

by Eric LIONS DEN on Feb 19, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, you do have to hand it to the little guy…at least he’s tenatious, but I’m with you on this. BJ LET IT GO, PLEASE!!!!

by EileenBailey on Feb 20, 2009 6:40 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

so funny….BJ PENN LOST TWICE. Thats it thats all.

Shove it up……

by Steve on Feb 21, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

lolllllllll

Its tough not to hit in the back of the head to someone always turning back his scary little face!! lolllllll

by Steve on Feb 21, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The dude has to train to win….!!!

How do you expect guys who are known as d.cks who lost to GSP to not go into this…Hughes (why do u think everybody wants to kick his butt….Serra a well known good guy hates his guts), Sherk( who was caught using), Penn (who doesnt train , just likes to party)

Thoses guys are not worth a lot for UFC anymore…..so they can whine….cry babies……….

by Steve on Feb 21, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

GET A LIFE BJ!!! WHAT AN IDIOT!!!

by spiderman on Feb 19, 2009 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

why is everyone acting like bj made this video himself??

it was just made by a fan. anyone can post anything and any video hey want on bjpenn.com

by AzCombat on Feb 19, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

No, they can’t. Try posting a video about what a bitch BJ is being on bjpenn.com. If you think he doesn’t have complete control over the content that’s posted on his website then you’re as delusional as BJ himself.

by GregC on Feb 19, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

thank you azcombat. he isnt responsible for the videos made by fans. but it still seems crazy unfair. i mean the multiple strikes to the back of the head should have been enough. gsp should know better.

by jack_stand808 on Feb 19, 2009 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Whining about the strikes to the back of the head is plain stupid. It happens all the time because when someone is tired of getting hit in the side of the head, they turn their head and get a COUPLE of shots to the back. The funniest part about this video is the moron that made it, kept saying again (to the back of the head) and the punches were clearly to the side. BJ’s ears must be on the back of his head. Rewatch the video. In almost every fight when there is GnP, the ref has to say, “watch the strikes to the back of the head”. A few shots to the back of the head is unavoidable in a fight and if it gets out of hand the ref stands them up or deducts a point. Sticking your thumb in someones eye is illegal too, but you didn’t hear GSP using that as an excuse why he lost the first round of the first fight and that actually had a lot of bearing on the way that fight went.

by Gord on Feb 20, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

First! It’s time to get over this BJ!

by Caknakker on Feb 19, 2009 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

Haha…first-whore wasn’t first.

by Dredg XI on Feb 19, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Get over this, it hasn’t been resolved. This is the first excellent video showing all the cheating. If this was the 5th or 10th video I would say get over it. But not if it is the first.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

“All the cheating?” Are you including the supposed shots to the back of the heard? Because I watched GSP hitting BJ with hammer fists to the side of the head. BJ had his head to the side and GSP was coming down with the shots, how can they be to the back of the head? They were to the same place that Matt Serra hit GSP in their first fight. I think the vasoline definitely shouldn’t have happened, but I don’t agree at all about the supposed shots to the back of the head.

by GregC on Feb 19, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t think we’ll ever see a GSP/Penn 3, but it is showing a great point. Can’t use it, other then your face

if you see Clay Guida, his brother slaps him after the vasaline to the face then, pats him on the back.. not hard to see that he was nice and slicked up

by Mikeybear2009 on Feb 19, 2009 12:53 AM EST reply actions  

Bj penn is sad, i lost all respect towards him :(

by N-Cryptic on Feb 19, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

This is where Joe Rogan comes in. It’s no secret that Rogan REALLY likes smoking weed. He also happens to be both a talented stand-up comic and, overall, a pretty intelligent guy. That means he can fuck your life up with words. Badly. Joe recently sat down at his computer and posted a blog where he verbally assaults the Kelloggs Company to the extent that, if it had been a physical assault, Kelloggs would look like the woman who got effed up by that monkey. No matter where you stand on the marijuana issue, there’s no doubting Rogan’s domination. A few notable passages:

First of all, although it is true that Mr. Phelps broke the law, I think any reasonably intelligent person would admit that it’s one of the most fucked up and corrupt laws that we have today in this country. Marijuana is relatively harmless and certainly far less dangerous than a host of other things that are not only legal but also readily available, like alcohol and prescription drugs. The only reason it remains illegal to this day is because it’s a plant and you can’t patent it and control it’s sale, and because if it were legal it would greatly affect the demand for a host of prescription drugs that rake in billions of dollars each year for pharmaceutical companies.

It’s 2009, and in this day and age with the incredible access to information that we have available there’s no fucking way that we should be allowing human beings to tell other human beings that they can’t do something that they enjoy that hurts no one including themselves. THAT is madness. THAT is ignorant, and THAT is completely fucking un-American.

I don’t want to hear any of that, "he’s setting a bad example with the children" nonsense either, because we all know if he had a gin and tonic in his hand instead of a bong this would never have been an issue, even though every single study ever done has shown that marijuana is FAR less dangerous than alcohol.

Marijuana laws are a horrible waste of resources and law enforcement, and especially in this day and age with our economy in such horrible shape I believe the last thing we need to be doing is wasting tax payers’ money on any of this victimless bullshit.

Do you guys ever think about what you sell? Pop tarts? Are you kidding me? I would be willing to bet that 50% of the people buying pop tarts are stoned out of their fucking minds. You guys sell sugar-drenched shit that’s horrible for your body – in fact, it’s actually way worse for your body than pot – and you market this shit specifically to children. You assholes go as far as putting lovable cartoon characters on the boxes just so that kids will beg their parents for it.

I think I can affirmatively state that Tony the Tiger just got KTFO’d.

by Josh H. on Feb 19, 2009 1:02 AM EST reply actions  

can you say OFF FU**ING TOPIC!!?!?!

by brendan on Feb 19, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

And what does this have to do with Vaseline? But it does prove other than Joe has really fried his brain.

by Slick Monkey on Feb 19, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe rogan is actually a smart guy… He is completely right.

by mike22 on Feb 19, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

wtf are you saying? what part do you not agree with?

by JRE on Feb 19, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t agree with the part where it is posted on the B.J.Penn/GSP greasegate video.

by naturalshadow on Feb 19, 2009 3:57 AM EST up reply actions  

screw the bj penn and gsp dillema,
Let’s legalize the sweet herb!
war josh H.

by chewbaca uncircumsized on Feb 19, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

legalize the sweet herb!
war JOsh H.
:)

by chewbaca uncircumsized on Feb 19, 2009 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL! war: Josh H. I second that! and there is truth that their products are far worse than the good herb! It’s not just the suger, but all of the chemicals. People wonder why with billions, I mean trillions of dollars into cancer research that we havnt found a cure. haha there isnt one. Cancer is on the rise bc as each day passes by we are exposed to more toxins. Or immune systems are to busy fighting off that junk instead of fighting bacteria, infections and diseases! Trust me on this, I work in a hospital and see it every day.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: The last disease ever cured was over 50 years ago, it was polio. The pharmaceutical companies went bankrupt virtually over night bc of it. So much more money in treating than curing! Do you really think that they want this to happen agin? It’s all about the o’mighty dollar!!!

by BOW on Feb 19, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

And this has what to do with whom, while you were where doing what???

by DJ on Feb 19, 2009 6:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Get over it already. How many times does he have to beat you. What will be his next excuse? I can’t graple him because he is sweating. Will you require him to be covered head to toe in sand paper and have him lay really still while you try and submit him?

by Slick Monkey on Feb 19, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions  

BAHAHAHAHAHA That video is actually F*ING HILARIOUS!!!

by AK on Feb 19, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions  

Thought the video was priceless, thanks BJ

by derreck on Feb 19, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

Pony Boy St.Pierre! That boy is a greaser!!

by xxBAxx816 on Feb 19, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

I can’t believe GSP gets such a bad rap for this… its pretty obvious that he is naturally greasy from a lifetime of eating poutine and applying self-bronzing lotion. Give the guy a break. It’s just not his fault.

by Duff on Feb 19, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

what a pussy ass sore loser. He got man handled. Give it up already. Try to defend the lightweight title.

by E dogg on Feb 19, 2009 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah E dogg, you are right.

Anyone should be allowed to cheat and once the fight is over we should just forget!!!

Are you an attorney?

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Penn just knows that there will never be a 3rd fight, knows he can’t hang with St. Pierre, and knows that as long as there is an asterix beside this fight, dumb fucks like you will have something to feel good about. Some of you guys who swing from the nuts that BJ barely wears have gotten to the point of desperation and and a vicious humiliation makes you guys have nothing better to do than keep hacking at a tree that won’t come down. Maybe some of you’s guys should accept it. Otherwise, you too, will be crying rivers for the rest of your Penn-huggung lives. No 3rd fight, just 55’s for this little baby.

by GodDamnMike on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He’ll be talking about this when he’s an old man, the video is halarious, repetive and pointless. Matt hughes is some great credible source? LOL. Mania for all our sakes please leave this shit in the past were it belongs. Penn got the shit kicked out of him, and is trying desperately to save face, along with hughes and others. Penn lost a lot of fans respect for all his trash talk before the fight, can’t back it up and gets destroyed and now is going to ridiculous lengths to justify his loss. He’s a huge sore loser, his eyes look weird in his videos lifeless like hes on something, whatever I don’t know why I bother responding to stupid posts like this.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

pony boy st.pierre?? hahaha.. i LOVE it!!!
the corner man of GSP wasn’t greasing GSP’s back from the vaseline bottle, more like trying to wipe it off his back cause GSP forgot to wipe a chunk of it after using it for his bung-ho. HAHAHAHAHAHA….
lets just move on…..
BJ vs FLORIAN
prediction: BJ by submission (RNC) round 3.

by boardRIDER on Feb 19, 2009 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

HAHA! BJ got beat like the little bitch that he is! Now he and all of other little bitches are complaining like the little bitches that they all are! What a punch of pansy ass little whiny bitches!!

by Travis on Feb 19, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions  

I hope bad things happen to BJ.

by Flyingknees on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 AM EST reply actions  

slick monkey thats a good one. Not a peep have I heard about these other clowns coming out of the wood work and now there jumping aboard the I got the shit kicked out of me gsp train. Funny kos and fitch guys who faired much better say nothing of such things. Penn,Hughes,serra,sherk all got embarrassed badly by gsp and have to save face somehow. Gsp might have had grease on his body just from face to gloves to body transfer.

 I find hughes talking about there last two fights halarious, so when did his slipperiness affect his fight? He had a death grip on gsp and gsp was bouncing his head on the matt and in there kick boxing matt the second fight he got a lock on gsp and held on, how was he slippery? Hughes is a liar and full of shit like the other three I named, and they should just shut there mouths because it makes them look like douche bags.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

I know for sure if it would have been the other way around all you GSP gay fanboys would have been pissed too….so please STFU

by William Blake on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 AM EST reply actions  

No, it would never be the other way around, because if GSP had lost he would have looked within for reasons as to why he lost. BJ on the other hand ALWAYS looks towards his opponents as to why he lost.

by Gord on Feb 20, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, that was incredibly whiny and lame.

BJ’s one of the more talented fighters in MMA, but I just lost a whole lot of respect for BJ as a person.

by FHC on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

Matt hughes-not trying to badmouth georges or saying he did anything wrong but he did feel greasy in my last two fights with him. Why bring it up now hughes? Why the sudden jog of memory, hughes he has the credibility of a crack whore to me and is a collosal hipocrite.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 1:37 AM EST reply actions  

What about Sherk post fight, what about the other guy who fought him.

what about being rubbed down by vaseline on the shoulder blades and reaching around?

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

line’em up with rashguards, george is game.

by nopesorryhomie on Feb 19, 2009 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

f*** bj penn.

by TRIKZ on Feb 19, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

All i saw was BJ getting his as# handed to him!

by MAV on Feb 19, 2009 1:44 AM EST reply actions  

Ya ricky its funny too that sherk, penn and serra were handed there most embarrassing and one sided losses at the hands of gsp. Penn before was openly accusing gsp of everything under the sun…steriods being a quiter but not a greaser…why? Nothing about it on the interenet forums by hughes,serra or penn, only sherk said it after a post fight interview his first bad loss and his first tko in under two rounds, said he was slick or oily, sore loser it could have being sweat.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 1:45 AM EST reply actions  

Dude Bj didn’t post that a fan did, don’t people realize that. There is also pro GSP videos on BJ Penn.com.

by Parks1 on Feb 19, 2009 1:49 AM EST reply actions  

There are no pro GSP videos on bjpenn.com

by Teep on Feb 19, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.bjpenn.com/video/gsp-interview
It has GSP being interviewed, and his side of the story.

by Parks1 on Feb 19, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to be a GSP fan but the gay vasline rub down from his corner makes me sick. You don’t see BJ’s corner stroking his thighs.

by natedogg77 on Feb 19, 2009 1:49 AM EST reply actions  

This video reminded me of the faking of the moonlanding type documentaries you see from time to time.

In BJ’s mind no one is better than him. the first fight he didn’t actually lose (which he did), the other earlier losses were because he didn’t train (maybe true, but thats part of being good) and this time gsp cheated. When he is an old man he will be the guy who was born in 1940 who tells you stories about the fighting he did in WW2.

by Amos on Feb 19, 2009 1:50 AM EST reply actions  

yup, that confirms it. The ONLY reason that GSP is the most dominant Welterweight and one of the top ranked fighters in the world is because of the vaseline. WHAT A CROCK!! I’m a little disapointed that Mania would post such an inflamed video. You can twist anything up to make it look however you want it to.
I guess we’ll see how badly GSP pounds the hell out of his next few opponents without any controversy regarding Vaseline.

by Freddy on Feb 19, 2009 1:53 AM EST reply actions  

MAN all the BJ haters aka gsp nuthuggers what dont you see? that video shows all the proof in the world on how it made an impact on the fight… and it also shows that BJ isnt the first to have a problem with this against gsp… i like gsp but what happend was ILLEGAL!!! no matter how much or how little vaseline was applied… and why hate on BJ it said in the end of the clip that the outcome doesnt matter as long as it doesnt happen anymore which i agree with.. we or atleast I wouldnt want an outcome of a fight to be affected in any way… if it was BJ who was getting greased up and won the fight for sure you guys would be saying the total opposite… i know im goin to get bashed on but still….

WAR BJ!!!!

by JR on Feb 19, 2009 1:55 AM EST reply actions  

im just sayin whats wrong is wrong lets not be bias

by JR on Feb 19, 2009 1:57 AM EST reply actions  

cheating is cheating, if it is the greatest fighter in the world or the worst.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ… biggest tool. I can’t believe he would post such a video on his website.

by Nick on Feb 19, 2009 2:02 AM EST reply actions  

Fan’s post it dummy. What do you think, BJ sits at a computer all day posting and editing videos.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

lol… either way. He should take that sh!t down.

by Nick on Feb 19, 2009 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

and beating his meat with jergin’s… or possibly vasoline? I bet BJs brother created this video. Could a fan even obtain that type of video. The close up stuff in the corner, and the stuff of Chuck and Dana. I’m really disappointed in GSPs camp, so let’s do it again. What will you BJ nut swingers say if GSP does him again like that without the Vas? Will you bring up fight number 2 with all of its greasing controversy. I think you would. BJ is good, but GSP is great. But this really fucked up is legendary status.

by DH on Feb 19, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP is not exempt from being held accountable. If it was someone like say Anderson Silva, Rampage or Karo. All of you man crush GSP lovers would say fry em…Make them pay the price for CHEATING!!! Cheating is cheating no matter wich way you look at it. If it were to come out that GSP were using HGH or Pro Hormones to fight is he still exempt from being a cheater or is he to be held accountable. If he is and he is the bigger, stronger, more athletic and more better fighter then why use the vaseline. He is caught on video and by the commission using the vaseling. I know everyone is saying including him it was an accident and he did’nt know. either way its illegal to use it. It taints the sport i love and loved since the begining. I think he and nobody should be let of the hook for this. There is an artical out that has big John Mcarthy saying he has seen it for years, where guys saop up or lotion up in order to have an edge. 1% of an edge if using substance is still cheating. I think that we should be worried about our sport we love so much and make cheaters accountable everytime they cheat weather its GSP or Brock or whoever it may be.

by GSP "the greaser" on Feb 19, 2009 2:07 AM EST reply actions  

Thankyou!

Agree completely. I actually like GSP, but I think if he cheated or his corner did AND it obvious gave him some advantage that the fight should be ruled a no contest, as it wasn’t fair.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

1.) Cheating is wrong no matter who does it, loved or hated.

2.) A consequence of some sort should be handed down to GSP. Not an overturning of the outcome of the fight but a steep fine or something else. Something that will get the attention of the rest of the MMA world and slow down the amount of greasing that insiders are claiming has been going on for so long amongst the MMA community.

3.) BJ has more than one way to win a fight as proven by his own record. Especially against GSP. Suddenly many forgot the boxing beat down BJ gave GSP in their 1st fight. On top of that, BJ has 5 wins by KO/TKO on his record to be exact.

4.) Vaseline applied to the neck and shoulders would only impact submissions applied to that area. It would not affect leg-locks, heel-hooks, knee-bars, etc.

5.) It is commonly known that once a fight get’s into the 2nd, 3rd or higher rounds, the fighters are sweating profusely which also makes it much harder to apply subs of any kind. Yes they get toweled down between rounds but once the fight starts again, so does the sweating.

6.) BJ has never submitted anyone from his guard in his entire MMA career. Anything is possible but to believe that his 1st sub ever from his back would come against arguably one of the best fighters in the world is a bit far-fetched.

7.) The takedown attempt where GSP was grabbing BJ’s shorts was never completed.

by Machine on Feb 19, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

WHY DO YOU ‘MMA’ FANS FAIL TO COMPREHEND THE NAC RULES.

ITS FUCKING SIMPLE. THERE IS NO STIPULATION OF WHERE VASOLINE CAN BE APPLIED. READ THE RULE,

     NAC 467.598 Physical appearance of unarmed combatants. (NRS 467.030)

     2. The excessive use of grease or any other foreign substance may not be used on the face or body of an unarmed combatant. The referees or the Commission’s representative in charge shall cause any excessive grease or foreign substance to be removed.

FACE OR BODY…COMMISION’S REPRESENTATIV WILL CAUSE EXESSIVE GREASE OR FOREIGN SUBSTANCE TO BE REMOVED.

STOP BLAMING GSP AND HIS CORNER, BLAME THE NSAC. THIS IS N’T EVEN TERMS FOR A NC.

STOP TALKING OUR OF YOUR ASS. YOU KNOW NOTHING. AND ITS SHAME THAT THE MAJORIRTY OF RETARDS THAT CONSIDER THEMSELVES MMA FANS THINK THE SAME WAY.

by fan_22 on Feb 19, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you fan 22, someone actually gets it. To cheat, you have to beak the rules. NO RULES WERE BROKEN, now STFU, especially the ones who are likening this to using steroids. Yes, there were problems from having vauge boxing rules carried over to MMA, but they are fixed now so be happy. It had no bearing on the fight. GSP would own Penn with rash guards on.

by Gord on Feb 20, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

JR the video was the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen, if the same thing happened to gsp I’d have no respect for him at all putting up some D quality videos that’s an insult to anyone who has a brains intelligence. The video shows all the proof? LOL. The video is rediculously biased and using matt hughes as come greast sourse HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, jesus.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 2:15 AM EST reply actions  

Anyone can make a video that is pro-(anything), or con-(anything), throw in some slow-mo’s, a few questionable quotes, rewind and play the illegal blow 25 times, and some cool music, that whenever the chorus hits, the fight is all greased-up.
Heck, with the right amount of tampering, over-dubbing, etc, ect, I could make it look like Rampage has KO’d Chuck Liddell 15 times, and even photo-shop Ortiz having a regular sized head.
What I am saying is that, some other guy, with a different opinion, and a bit of time on his hands, could easily develop a video that incriminates Penn, and with proper editing, loops the (chorus) ferocious beating so to the untrained watcher (like children and our parents), believe whatever is portrayed.

by GodDamnMike on Feb 19, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Coming into this fight I was a fan of both gsp and bj but after what I’ve seen, I have lost some respect for gsp. No doubt gsp is a great athelete and trains hard for his fights but what went on was not right at all. He definitely had an advantage and it was not right of him to do and if other fighters have even confirmed that he has greased up in the past then I believe he should be punished for it. I really wish there can be a 3rd fight between them just to settle this because it just wasn’t fair to bj.

by Sinister on Feb 19, 2009 2:16 AM EST reply actions  

Wow. One of the few people on the site that can understand right and wrong.

I don’t blame this on GSP yet, but there was definitely cheating going on.

Most people on this site are saying, “OH BJ IS CRYING.”

- no he isn’t, he just is competing, and got worked by someone who was cheating. Be honest, anyone with any pride or ego wouldn’t just take a beating from a guy who cheated and roll over.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally I’m most annoyed at GSP’s cornermen for causing this controversy. Do I think GSP loses if there’s not excessive grease applied to his body? Heck, no. But that doesn’t make it right and GSP is better than that.

by JTD on Feb 19, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

hard to argue with a great edit.

by Cool Hand Chad on Feb 19, 2009 2:20 AM EST reply actions  

If you can’t trust a video put together by a fan of a fighter that got his ass kicked what can you trust?

by GregC on Feb 19, 2009 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!!!

by Vulcano on Feb 19, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone can make a video that is pro-(anything), or con-(anything), throw in some slow-mo’s, a few questionable quotes, rewind and play the illegal blow 25 times, and some cool music, that whenever the chorus hits, the fight is all greased-up.
Heck, with the right amount of tampering, over-dubbing, etc, ect, I could make it look like Rampage has KO’d Chuck Liddell 15 times, and even photo-shop Ortiz having a regular sized head.
What I am saying is that, some other guy, with a different opinion, and a bit of time on his hands, could easily develop a video that incriminates Penn, and with proper editing, loops the (chorus) ferocious beating so to the untrained watcher (like children and our parents), believe whatever is portrayed.

by GodDamnMike on Feb 19, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how they doctored that video to make it look like gsp’s corner put some vaseline on his chest. That’s some hi tech stuff.

by Kdog on Feb 20, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i think people will always bring greasegate up when gsp fights from now on

by ShitleTot.com on Feb 19, 2009 2:21 AM EST reply actions  

This video was great.

It is all true and all happened.

I don’t see why everyone is complaining and insulting BJ.

The thing all you guys don’t understand is… THE CORNER CHEATED. period, end of story.

GSP would of won anyways, etc, he is the best. Yes, probably all true.

STILL, THEY CHEATED. They greased him up and something needs to happen. It wasn’t a fair fight even if GSP would of won anyways. If in baseball someone corked their bat in a world series game people wouldn’t say, “oh, they would of won anyways”. Cheating is cheating!

Oh its a little thing, a little grease on the body doesn’t do anything.

LOL. You guys don’t understand MMA if you think a little grease does nothing.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 19, 2009 2:35 AM EST reply actions  

“If in baseball someone corked their bat in a world series game people wouldn’t say, "oh, they would of won anyways". "

Actually, yes they would. People have been caught cheating in baseball innumberable times with corked bats, doctoring the ball, stealing signs, and of course, steriods. How many times have they reversed the outcome of games as a result? How many statistical records have they changed as a result?

GSP won. I’d have more sympathy if the fight were remotely competitive. Time to move on.

by heatwaves on Feb 19, 2009 3:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly…it’s the fact that it DID happen, regardless of the outcome.

When a Champion is cheating, whether it effect the outcome or not, it’s still bad for the sport. Cheating is cheating. Doesn’t matter if it gets results. It’s just a lot worse if it doesn’t.

by Dredg XI on Feb 19, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

i totally agree. IF you are a MMA fighter, or been doing some grappling here and there, TRY putting a little vaseline on your training partners upper back. believe it or not, try it for yourself. i’ve started rolling(grappling) approximately a litte over two years ago. my training partner and i decided to try it out. hahaha. it freakin’ works!!! it’s hilarious!!! you can’t get a decent grip while in guard. it keeps slippin’. HAHAHA.
cheaters!!!!!! now i do see where BJ’s comin’ from.
then again, it’s old news… lets ALL MOVE ON!!!!!!!!

by boardRIDER on Feb 19, 2009 3:02 AM EST reply actions  

fight him again and kill him again gsp…….. bj is a cry baby

by jord on Feb 19, 2009 3:12 AM EST reply actions  

unless someone is gonna hop in a delorian and take the vasseline away, please kill subject, too manny good events comin up y ruin it with this

by phenomenal angel on Feb 19, 2009 3:20 AM EST reply actions  

wow is BJ ever being a little bitch….he was completly dominated and embarassed by GSP and is just looking for excuses now….id love to see another rematch so GSP could beat his ass again

by eisenbarth4 on Feb 19, 2009 3:37 AM EST reply actions  

Great video with a lot of big-name quotes regarding the grease stuff. I’m not much of a GSP fan. I hope Thiago Alves tears him to pieces.

by Clint on Feb 19, 2009 4:30 AM EST reply actions  

I did not really think much of it, however, watching that really pissed me off. They should go at it again … but only after GSP fights Alves, Jones, Silva :)

by DownUnder on Feb 19, 2009 4:49 AM EST reply actions  

WAR KEN FLO!!!!

by JSizzle on Feb 19, 2009 5:05 AM EST reply actions  

i’ve lost whatever respect for bj penn i had because of this video and his excuses for getting pummeled. st.pierre got wiped down after rounds 2 and 3 and penn still couldn’t do anything. and hes complaining about supposed strikes to the back of the head; this happens in a majority of fights, no one else posts videos of two or three minor punches that are borderline. i hate kenny florian, but i hope he beats bj into a pulp now just to see what kind of video response bj has for losing that one(my guess is a video showing bj eating cheeseburgers on the beach).

by woody on Feb 19, 2009 5:28 AM EST reply actions  

BJ better grease up his ass if there is a rematch because he is going to get raped…again.

by suckit on Feb 19, 2009 5:31 AM EST reply actions  

Whats funnier is Frank Mir witness it. You moron BJ, Mir asked Liddell what was going on and Liddell explained to him. You can clearly see that. Jeez I hate BJ more and more, and I don´t really hate fighters.

by fonx on Feb 19, 2009 5:31 AM EST reply actions  

Why are you guys hateing on BJ GSp has been Cheating and greasing for years the man gets cought and know one cares, everyone is calling Bj a cry baby. F**k GSP I hope Tiago Knocks his dick in the dirt! GSP CHEATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Thebending on Feb 19, 2009 5:45 AM EST reply actions  

The little local boy was turned into a girl by GSP. You think maybe BJ is turning tricks now?

by TJ on Feb 19, 2009 6:09 AM EST reply actions  

The problem is that there are actually two issues here— 1) did he cheat? Answer— yes—vaseline was clearly applied to areas other than his face. (did he know about it or do it on purpose? who knows, but I’m willing to concede that George didn’t do it on purpose.)

2nd issue— Did it impact the outcome of the fight? I don’t think so— I saw George trainning for the fight of his life with upper echlon mma fighters. However I don’t practice jiu jitsu so I don’t know how much of a difference it makes in a fight.

by Kdog on Feb 19, 2009 6:10 AM EST reply actions  

Hitting to the back of the head and the grabbing of the shorts definitely are significant points. The shiny skin just put GSP over the top. BJ for Congress!!! Mania obviously biased.

by TapedUpPair on Feb 19, 2009 6:26 AM EST reply actions  

WOW! BJ got his A** handed to him for four rounds and has to make up an excuse because “it cant be” ! BJ talked way too much crap before fight and couldnt back it up is what happened. GSP is too strong and a much better champion than BJ will ever be…all this video does is make bj look like a little wuss. Im sorry but a video replayed of him trying to take his legs up his back on “repeat” dont show me how a small amount of vaseline really made the difference even if he did use it! HA GSP straight man handled him and nobody wants to see a rematch…its official!

by Lance on Feb 19, 2009 6:28 AM EST reply actions  

I think it’s fair to say that both fighters have tarnished themselves over this.

For GSP to feign ignorance seems a bit far-fetched, not to mention totally unecessary given his superior overall skill set. From now on he’s going to be watched like no other fighter, so if it was the reason for his victories (as other previous opponents have inferred) he’s going to be found out now.

For BJ nothing turns people off like a sore loser. If he felt GSP was greasy the first time (this also goes for Matt Hughes) and had been told the same by other fighters then he should have raised it with the rules commission BEFORE THE FIGHT. At the very least he should have done so in between rounds! As for those who consistently try to defend BJ, I’d like to say he’s not whiter than white. Although legal (how?!) he’s worn knee supports in the past, useful (particularly against sweat/grease!) for grip if you’ve got great submissions off your back! He also (accidentally) poked GSP in the eye in the first fight which considerably disadvantaged GSP. Finally, his initial reaction to losing was to say he was retiring. If you’d felt the reason for your loss was because of someone elses cheating that wouldn’t be your reaction. As for him not having created the video, it’s posted on his official site and if he’s not supportive of it he could always delete it….

Best thing Dana White can do for us fans is have them both go on a winning streak then have a 3rd match, shown free-to-air.

by levis on Feb 19, 2009 6:44 AM EST reply actions  

Well said. This fight ultimately tarnishes BOTH fighters in one way or another. GSP and BJ Penn’s hard core fans will argue that the other is a b*tch, cheater, etc. but at the end of the day BJ is looking more and more like a sore loser and GSP now has a cloud of suspicion, albeit small, surrounding him. Not exactly what fans were hoping for in what should have been amazing fight.

by JTD on Feb 19, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh…BJ did raise the issue before the fight thats why GSP got caught.

by GSP "the greaser" on Feb 19, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

he did raise the issue of george greasing before the fight.

by Kdog on Feb 19, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

A greasy and dirty fighter but he’ll never admit it.

by KS on Feb 19, 2009 6:48 AM EST reply actions  

GSP has lost all my respect. He is clearly a cheater. If MMA want to be a true sport has to cut this things of and strip him from his title, but what can you expect from a sport that don´t even strip a fighter from a win even if he is tested positive in a drug control.

As one of the best fan of MMA I really wish these things to change ASAP, ´cos MMA has the potential to become the best sport of the world and things like this just damages it´s image.

by tarao on Feb 19, 2009 7:26 AM EST reply actions  

Closed minded fool both Sean Sherk and Tim Silvia were stripped of their titles for testing positive. When fighters test positive for drugs they always get suspensions. Josh Barnett had to leave the UFC altogether when he tested positive after he won the title from Randy.

You are entitled to your own opinion about Grease Gate but don’t act like fighters get away anything.

by Vulcano on Feb 19, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Learn to read before calling someone closed minded fool, because it makes you seem stupid. I told that they should strip GSP from the title, but never told that they dind´t strip the title from positive testers. I told they don´t strip them the win. They were both striped from their title, but the fight is a win in both of them records, as well as the positive for Royce after his second fight with Sakuraba.

About Grease Gate, in this video you can see how the vaseline is clearly aplied to the shoulders and back of GSP, it´s not a mistake, it´s intentional. The breating tecnic excuse will have some sense in the back, but the vaselin in the shoulder don´t have any explanation. And there are too many fighters claiming GSP is a greaser, and video evidence. For something similar Akiyama was striped from the win over Sakuraba and everybody hates him in Japan for that. Here it seems that nobody cares if his hero wins cheating and everybody just want to look the other way.

by Tarao on Feb 20, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP should come out to greese lightning at his next fight

by hatteras on Feb 19, 2009 8:07 AM EST reply actions  

You know what the real problem is here?

1) BJ continues to bring this up over and over and over. Everyone knows already BJ…let the investigation happen.

2) BJ does has yet to admit he lost a fight to a superior fighter.

by DubNub on Feb 19, 2009 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

wrong, he did admit he lost.

by Bennie on Feb 19, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Punches were mainly to the side of the head, not the back. Shiney? BJ looked just as “shiney” before each round began. I believe it is what we like to call sweat. I say again any vaseline that is allowed on any part of the body will be transferred to other parts. Vaseline in the octagon at all is what should be banned, then there will be no future controversy regarding grease.

by MrFyer on Feb 19, 2009 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

everything you say is true. you just leave the part out about how gsp’s corner was caught on video putting vaseline on his body.

by Kdog on Feb 19, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

This video has camera footage & copyrighted material that could have only been composed with the UFC’s help. They are obviously milking the controversy & creating hype for future fights.

by fedor on Feb 19, 2009 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

the bottom line is,did GSP win within the rules.the anwser is no.BJ may be causing a stink over but i think he has that right. I think BJ is a bit over the top but he has a legit complaint. Just when i started to like GSP the mofo get caught cheating.I knew i should of stuck with my gut instinct, there was a reason I didnt like him and i could never put my finger on why.oh well call it a no contest and let-em fight again

by SluggerCitySoldier on Feb 19, 2009 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

You don’t even know the rules, so how can you say GSP didn’t win within them? The rules CLEARLY state that if excessive vas is applied to the face or body, the commission or the ref has to wipe it off. Guess what, they wiped it off so it is WELL within the rules. Blame the rules , not GSP.

by Gord on Feb 22, 2009 4:44 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ Penn needs to stop being a little bitch and admit that he got his ass kicked. Nothing brought me more joy than seeing him getting his face smashed in and there was nothing he could do about it.

Fighters don’t whine this much when they’ve lost by decision, or a bad judges call, or a cut, etc. The only way to end this will be to have them fight again, so that little prick can get pwnd again and then maybe he’ll shut his mouth.

by MMAFan on Feb 19, 2009 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

u should change ur profile name dude

by ja434650 on Feb 19, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

how can anyway say leave this alone or let it go? if i was bj i wouldnt.
 its easy for all the bloggers to say “oh it didnt make a difference”, but why is it that you have fighters (actually fighters, not keyboard blackbelts) that made it a point to go to dana and complain after gsp won?
 cheating is cheating, should be a no contest until a rematch. i dont care if anyone wants to see the fight or not, its the right thing to do.

by yourNOTaFighters on Feb 19, 2009 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

BJ will continue to try and discredit GSP because he has no honor. I repeat, BJ has no honor.

by ToeLock on Feb 19, 2009 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

If Greasy St. Pierre had any, he’d admit how greasy he is.
How can anyone look at the video of a guy trying to hide vaseline in his pocket and side with GSP?
GSP trying to come off as an honorable fighter is the act.
Bunch of huggers around here.

by KS on Feb 19, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Bj has no honor because he cheated? or he has no honor because he pointed out that gsp cheated?

by Kdog on Feb 20, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Way out of context. This video is meant for the select few that still can’t come to terms and accept that BJ got his ass handed.
1. It was an accident. When the “greasing” took place in round two Greg Jackson told GSP to take a round and strike with him.

2. Mayhem Miller was the one escaping from kimura and armbar attempts in their fight. The supposed “grease” would have worked against GSP.

3. Second Fight with Hughes was 90% standup.

4. Penn fans believe Sherk to be a steroid user but all of a sudden he’s a credible source? (p.s. I don’t think Sherk is a cheater, and he did all he could to prove his innocence)

5. BJ didn’t do sh#t off his back in the first fight. His gogoblata attempt went nowhere.

BJ gassed out in his old fashoned way like he always does. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT – END OF STORY!

by Vulcano on Feb 19, 2009 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah…rubbing his chest, shoulders and back with was an accident. Get the fuck out here.

by Dredg XI on Feb 19, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree… hit the nail on the headbuddy

by holyintellect on Feb 19, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t believe Penn is still wining about it. I bet he’s lost a ton of fans over this. He talks like a spoiled rich kid who doesn’t know how to handle his defeat.

by Shu on Feb 19, 2009 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

If you actually watch the fight, you will see that when BJ goes to rubber guard, there is so much friction that GSP’s back actually wrinkles from BJ’s calf rubbing against him…this wouldn’t happen if there was a lot of Vaseline. After the initial rubber guard, BJ doesn’t even get his leg over GSP’s shoulder, so I don’t understand people saying that GSP was slippery…watch the fight again. The fact that his skin wrinkles shows that there was a lot of friction, and he was not slippery.
BJ used to be my second favourite fighter hands down, but now I’m getting a little sick of this trash-talk after fights…I don’t mind it before a fight takes place, but this is getting retarded.

by MM_Eh on Feb 19, 2009 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

WAR Ken-Flo!!!!!

by Vulcano on Feb 19, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

There’s nothing subtle about BJ is there?

by Tony on Feb 19, 2009 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

First off Bj is and has been a bitch boy as far as dealing woth this whole situation the way he has, like a sore looser. On the other hand there is plenty of proof that GSP did in fact have vasoline applied to his upper bacl and shoulders. Wheather or not this actually affected the outcome of the fight, who knows. But one thing is for sure BJ has plenty and excuses and evidence that will get him another shot at Pierre. I personally think the outcome will be the same.

by yoububg on Feb 19, 2009 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

Hell Yes, you are awesome!!!

by yoububg on Feb 21, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Sad, very sad. Obviously Penn has decided to secure his legacy by defending his loses with excuses rather then padding his record with wins. If he spent as much time training for fights as he does justifying his loses he’d be unstoppable. Again, what a sad little boy. BJ, for yourself, please let this go and concentrate on KenFlo.

by SilasM on Feb 19, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

BJ is pathetic, he is clearly obsessed with GSP/

by winrar on Feb 19, 2009 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

Hahaha. Maybe this whole thing is a farce, because BJ got to witness another guy rubbing Georges’ shoulders and back. BJ has the hots for Georges. hahahaha. Just kidding, but it almost seems that way.

by GodDamnMike on Feb 19, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Penn just lost another fan.

by Mc on Feb 19, 2009 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

isn’t this starting to creep into slander?

please have a rematch so bj can get tooled again and have no excuses to belittle his opponent with what is really turning into whiney garbage.

by Phil Baloni on Feb 19, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

If its fact how can it ever be close to slander??? Those are video evidence and ex champions getting quoted (not rumors or made up jibberish) And im sure all of the fighters quoted would stick to what they have said since they have said it on the record to the media just recently. . . Wheres the slander? OR where is it even close to slander?? Dont cheat and nothing gets said or video taped. GSP would have to sue the NSAC cause they saw it, they have said it, they have admited it wasnt a fair fight? Is he gonna sue Danna for “slandering” him to Rashed and the Crow like that “GSP’s in trouble etc etc” COME ON! What are you talking about, full of Boloni just like Phil huh, i bet even Baroni is on Penns side, gauranteed. WAR PENN!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

COME ON….BJ IS A TRASH TALKER….AND HE’S UPSET ABOUT THE LOSS…

HE SHOULD CONCENTRATE HIMSELF FOR HIS FLORIAN FIGHT…

by JP ROY on Feb 19, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Im not a fan of either fighter but I ordered the fight in anticipation of a great fight and then the “Grease Gate” incident happened. Well…as a fan of neither fighter I have to say that the only nuthuggers on this site are Georges St. Pierre fans. You guys are worse than BJ Penn fans. Whats even worse is you try and act all high and mighty like St. Peirre DIDNT cheat and that the Vaseline made no difference either way. I see you guys on here trying to disrespect BJ Penn fans calling them cry babies and excuse makers… LOL…I see more excuse makers on the St. Pierre side then the BJ side. And its funny to say that"HE WOULD HAVE STILL WON ANYWAY", because we will never know now will we. Why wont we ever TRUELY know? Lets think about it this way…the little league world series…Lets say that a teams strength is hitting and they get shutout by a kid pitcher whos over the age limit but its not caught until 3 months after. Do you think that they will still be crowned little league baseball champs? NO. I dont even care how many fans call the LL Baseball board commissioners, that ruling is still going to be ruled cheating and the team will be stripped of the title. Lets do this for an example…If they had shirtless grappling in the OLYMPICS and one of the grapplers was having vaseline put on his body the grappler would have immediately been disqualified.There would be NO leaway.That being said… if the ground game is BJs specialty , you cant take someone out of there specialty with an unfair advantage even for 1 round. Why? Because 1 round is 5 mins. worth of having someone ontop of you and burning all of your energy just to survive through the round. So I read on here that BJs cardio was bad…LOL…in actuality we will never know that will we because you expect someone to sit on their back for 3 to 4 minutes unable to hold the guy down to catch a breather or spin out and stand up. You expect to a person to be energized after that? I think its unfair either way. Its unfair to st. pierre if he really didnt know and its unfair to bj because he may have been taken out of his 1 true world class dimension, BJJ.
On a side note… what do you think would have happened to Frank Mir if Brock Lesnar would have had some Vaseline around his ankle? See you guys dont realize that both fighters train and they BOTH probably train a hell of alot harder than anyone typing on this site…the difference makers is small things in a fight, it swings a fight either way…BUT cheating in any degree swings the fight alittle more in the cheating fighters favor and that could be the difference between winning and losing. People need to remember that and call the fight for what it was… two fighters went to war and one was given an unfair advantage by his corner and thus the fight has to be ruled a no contest. I was watching boxing the other day and was watching the Margarita/Mosely fight and heard that they pulled off this plaster piece from margaritas wraps before the fight…lets say what if he beat mosely and then when they were taking off his wraps and found the hard plaster shell on do you think they would have let him keep the victory? Well that may be a bad example because everyone knows boxing is corrupt from the top to the bottom. LOL.

by Not1ofyourStPierreNutHuggers on Feb 19, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Thank you! Do you love this sport or just love GSP . . . The line in the sand is about to be drawn in front of you, stand your ground with the cheater, ill be with the guy that went into the fight ready to give the fans “the biggest fight in UFC history” regardless of the outcome, you guys can roll with the guy that wanted a WIN so bad he had to cheat not only BJ Penn out of a fair fight but cheat you out of your money in these economic times . . . COME ON!!! GSP/Jackson just played YOU, ME, Hughes (via GSP), Serra (via GSP), Kenflo (via Huerta), Miller (via GSP), Koscheck (via GSP), Tito Ortiz (via Rashad), Ceaser Gracie, The UFC, The NSAC and BJ Penn! How many fighters have to say something, how many slide shows of the “footage of the GREASE being applied” do you need, iggnorant fools! WAR PENN!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice try Adam, but you neglect to realize that half of the GSP fights (Sherk, Miller,Hughes 2) he wasn’t even with Jackson. Oh well, look at the bright side, at least you have your excuse (as you ALWAYS do)when BJ loses. Why can’t you just be honest with your self and say, BJ got beat by the better fighter. GSP got beat by the better fighter (that night) when he fought Serra the first time and it was all his fault (not Serra’s) he lost. See how easy that is. The only thing I was more sure of than GSP owning penn, was you not accepting it. If it wasn’t a little vas, you would have come up with something. Man, I wish they would fight again with rash guards. Then again there would still be excuses.

by Gord on Feb 21, 2009 3:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Adam we all know you spank it to BJ Penn. It’s time you dealt with the fact and how this fight is going to be recorded in the history books like it or not and that’s GSP won due to corner stoppage after the fourth round. Fact is BJ and his corner never complained once during the fight, but now are trying to make something of nothing, luckily the MMA fan’s are intelligent enough to call BJ penns BS. ((Adam G)) BJ has no chance against GSP get over it, Like BJ should it’s time you acted like a man and just deal with the fact GSP is a better fighter at 170 end of story. CRY BJ!!!

by Beaver on Feb 21, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently so is the UFC. GSP is a cheater and a liar, jelly bastard.

by ktown on Feb 19, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

well said, sir!

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Feb 19, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

What a load of crap. You should LOOK UP the rules on vas before you call someone a cheater. BJ LOST because he took a HUGE haymaker at the begining of the second round (he said himself he was out on his feet). Saying we will never know is just plain dumb (and lame excuse), because BJ was getting owned in the stand up and on the ground. Bj has never subbed ANYONE from his guard and you think that GSP might just be his first,LOL. Quit listening to all the sore losers about all this cheating bullshit and READ the rules for yourself. It says you can’t apply excessive vas to the face or body and if the officials think there is excessive they JUST wipe it off. THEY WIPED IT OFF. Why is that so hard to understand? It just like your not supposed to poke eyes of kick nuts, but shit happens in a fight. GSP didn’t cheat and that tiny bit of vas did JACK SHIT to the outcome and you’re just one of many sore losers who are trying to take away a great win by GSP. The only thing that should (AND WILL) come of this is, there was problems with the rules and they are FIXED now. Vas should have always been applied by an unbiased official just like it is at the begining of a fight. Until you can decern the exact amount of excessive vas (what the rule say) STFU about who is cheating. Yes all your examples are bad, just like the morons that liken this situation to using steroids. What you don’t understand is sweat is slippery and they wipedGSP dry at the begining of every round and BJ had an advantage because he wasn’t wiped. Do you actually think that tiny bit of vas (that was wipe off)would be slipperier than the sweat and vas (from face to body transfer) that wasn’t wiped off of BJ? Keep the controversy up though, then GSP will be pissed and he will tell Dana he wants a rematch and you can watch your boy get DEMOLISHED again.

by Gord on Feb 21, 2009 3:17 AM EST up reply actions  

pure bullshit!

by ric on Feb 19, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

Yea, BJ just made all that stuff up huh, come on!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

lets just have a whole slew of rematches: GSP against hughes and penn (i havent heard mayhem complaining) just to shut people up. gosh

by rich on Feb 19, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

BOOM! CHEATER!! TAINTED CHAMPION!!! TAINTED CAMP!!!! TAINTED VICTORY!!!!! TAINTED VICTORIES!!!!!! WAR PENN!!! And if you wanna blah blah blah me about “let it go” . . . If it was the other way around and GSP couldnt take Penn down casue he was slicked up you ALL would be crying FOUL!!! YOU decide, do you love this sport or do you just love GSP . . . Again, WAR PENN!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

I have always respected your opinion AdamG, but if you honestly think BJ Penn would have a "good" shot at beating GSP in a 3rd fight your hart is betraying your mind. BJ is good, GSP is better. BJ has peaked, GSP is peaking. End of story.

by SilasM on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Did i ever say that??? NEVER. Stick to the point. Did GSP cheat? ok then, who cares if he wouldnt, shouldnt, or ever couldnt, we will NEVER know huh, right, can you say difinitvly that Penn wouldnt have landed a sub, or at the least taken less damage and used less energy in the fight to at least last to the end, at least still have some respect walking out of the ring??? Instead he walked out alone, with his head down, and as his #1 fan, it was the hardest thing ive ever had to watch, ever. Did GSP care when he cheated and took the little respect Penn could have kept without knowing GSP cheated? Who cares if Penn would have won, is that what people say about Franca and his loss to Sherk, “oh would Hermes have won anyway??” WHO CARES!!!! You cheat, you lose! Period. WAR PENN!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

your a loser buddy…. penn was pathetic as soon as the frist round started… and he gassed out after doing what… oh ya, nothing at all!

and its so common BJ would ahve subbbed him from below cause he has done that countless times before… and GSP has been subbed on top so many times…

by holyintellect on Feb 19, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

True holyintell, mostly true . . . And it’s " “You’re” a loser buddy . . ." buddy.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam G when you go to bed tonight think about the beat down Bj Penn took, take a good 30 or 40 minutes too collect those tears in a jar, add vasoline to your jar and apply to your your BJ Penn doll…. now go F^ck your mangina.

by Beaver on Feb 21, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL I wanted to post that Beaver, Adam G sound just like BJ a little B^tch. CRY ADAMG!!!

by Ringer on Feb 22, 2009 3:42 AM EST up reply actions  

GSP GSP GSP!!!

They could fight on the beach in Hawaii and your boy will just get pwned again!!! Again and again and again!!

BJ was outclassed, outworked and beat down!!

The grease does not explain why BJ looked like complete utter crap the entire fight. He cannot hang with any of the top WWs. Face it – he was embarrassed in every aspect of that fight! LOL@Team Hawaii!!

by stevo on Feb 19, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He was certainly outgreased.

by KS on Feb 19, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

out greased..lol

by Kdog on Feb 20, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a damn shame because bj definately could have grabbed a sub if all that vasaline wasn’t there

by ja434650 on Feb 19, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

I wont say that, but i will say we wont ever know now, he was trying, but we will never know . . . now. Thanks GSP.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

we have like 70 posts från GSP fans or old Penn fans saying let it go or BJ is a bi**h…

we have like 70 post of BJ fans saying it was, accidently or not, cheating but it wouldt have changed the outcome of the fight.

and then we have YOU… “Definately could have grabbed a sub”

You better have Keyboard Black belt, as someone put it nicely, cause the nr 1 BJ nuthugger position is all Adam G and he aint letting go (pun intended) so easily dude!

by Choke_Him on Feb 19, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m a GSP fan… I was rooting for him because I just thought BJ was too cocky… plus I just started watching UFC and I just didn’t really know BJ Penn except for the UFC PrimeTime special…

but after watching that video, I could see where BJ Penn could not get a high guard and control GSP because he was so slippery. I’ve done some BJJ myself, and I could see what BJ was trying to do and shoulda been able to do. And I think if they had rash guards on, as GSP had suggested, BJ Penn might’ve been able to work better and possibly submit GSP.

Of course, being such a smaller guy, BJ Penn woulda lost anyway.

by yoshi on Feb 19, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

That video was about ten minutes of BJ Penn whining like a bitch/girl/sore loser/spoiled rich punk/baby J for losing.

wow lets do it again and let GSP retire Penn once and for all

by jackel on Feb 19, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

THIS IS an ACT of WAR!!!
bring it M#%#F%@#….Its on!

I’m not serious here but this sh#t is about to blow

I had predicted Dana’s video blog would cause long term damage to GSP and the UFC

http://mmamania.com/2009/02/02/ufc-94-video-blog-with-dana-white-episode-six/

we need GSP vs PENN #3 ASAP

St-Pierre 2nd round by murder

by QNotouchRJ on Feb 19, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

GSP : GREASE ST. PIERRE

Even if he would’ve won, he’s still a cheater.

by daled on Feb 19, 2009 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

I paid 45 bux to see the “the best fight in UFC history” Not some greasing exhibition by pepe le pew. BJ was clearly at a disadvantage.

by ktown on Feb 19, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

You paid $45 in hopes of your boy winning and now that he got his ass kicked, you’re whining just like your boy BJ does.

by Gord on Feb 21, 2009 3:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Let them fight again, and we’ll see what happens. As GSP said, let them fight with a rashguard on…

The outcome would be the same and everyone knows it. Penn is too small to be fighting at 170. Day in and day out, GSP would over power him in the top position and outstrike him.

I think BJ is an unbelievable fighter, great heart, but his place is still at 155. He’s going to have a tough test in Kenny Florian. Not sure how this video showed up on BJPenn.com, and I really don’t care, but it’s in other peoples hands now and I wish people would stop bringing it up. It’s old news.

by JohnnyBTapouT on Feb 19, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

This shit would have gone away, but Dana had to release his video blog with himself saying “GSP’s in trouble”…not to mention Chuck playing “tattle tail”. Dana and Chuck are both idiots.

by introvert on Feb 19, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, Chuck’s and BJ are 2 peas in a pod. Notorious for partying and poor training habits. And they both sport the chubby bodies to boot. He’s a has been anyway!

by Rich on Feb 19, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

KEITH KEIZER ISNT BIAST WHY WOULD HE EVEN FEEL IT WAS UNFAIR

GSP IS A FUCKIN CHEATER STRAIGHT THE FUCK UP

GSP STANDS FOR GREASY SLIPPERY PETROLEUM!!!!

FUCKIN STUPID CANADIANS!!AND HES FRENCH MANNNN

by SICKONE FIGHT on Feb 19, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, how did this guy get passed moderation?? And ‘BIAST’??? Come on…

by stevo on Feb 19, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Get over yourself dude! BJ couldn’t beat him on his best day vaseline or no vaseline, and that’s just the way it is- case closed.

by Rich on Feb 19, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

What does “BIAST” mean?

Maybe I don’t understand, because I’m a “FUCKIN STUPID CANADIAN”

I’m always amazed when someone who can’t spell, or use correct grammar, calls others stupid. It’s quite ironic.

by introvert on Feb 19, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

im a dual citizen.

couple of things,, dont act like another ignorant stupid hick american when talk about another country you simple tool.

GSP has beat Penn twice, decisively both times,, straight up question now. do you actually think for a second the outcome would be any different. dont answer quickly like an ignorant tool that you are,, lets try to use some big boy words and put a nice sentence together to actually answer this. Ill even help. penn is too small to fight with GSP,, he has no cardio, hes overrated, he s going to lose to florian so this fight will never happen, hes a spoiled little bitch, gsp did and would again control the whole fight, and penn is too small and gsps back is too big for him to get a submission off against him anyways.

as for the grease gate, so little Vaseline was applied to gsps back its pathetic how this is such a big issue. its not the vaseline that made him so slippery, if you moisturize every day your skin will be soft and slippery naturally, plus his sweat,, why are people so dumb wow

by jackel on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The highest concentration of Vaseline wasn’t on GSP’s back. The highest concentration of vaseline was on his gloves, and it got there from punching BJ in the face. Also, the video points out punches to the back of the head….I’m sorry, but i saw 1, maybe 2 punches that “maybe” could have been considered the back of the head……those punches were landing on the side of BJ’s head, and there was a shitload of them.

BJ, you and your camp can piss and moan all you want, you lost plain and simple. Rather than sitting around “Club Penn” creating whiny video’s for Blog sites, you might want to start training again, cuz Kenflo is going to embarrass you more than GSP did……

by kg on Feb 19, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

Just a side note for huys like YOU; BJ Penn didnt and doesnt create videos like this . . . Its not like HE (BJ Penn) made this video dude LoL, he hasnt said a word about this Vas issue at all except for “GSP felt greasy but it wouldnt have changed the outcome of the fight, he was the better fighter that night.” Sounds humble to me, no “pissing and moaning” there . . . He hasnt said a word since. There are hundreds of these vids on his site posted by fans or anyone that doesnt like cheating ya know, its not that uncommon, BJPENN.COM is like a myspace in that you can make a page, uplaod photos, videos, post bloggs and all of an mma nature. Figure it out man, maybe i made that video, maybe YOU made that video, but BJ Penn definitly didnt make that video. BOOM! WAR PENN!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

  • “huys” = guys . . .

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

shut up

by holyintellect on Feb 19, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

LoL, WoW, You’re “holyintellect” huh, it sure shows in “your” *(See replied to post near top for complete lesson) posts bro . . .

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you saying that anyone has the ability to post content like that on BJ Penn’s site?

by kg on Feb 19, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

. . . y e a.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 19, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad, i didn’t realize anyone could post anything…..although they might want to consider a bit more oversight if they care anything about public opinion like this forum….but then again, i highly doubt BJ gives much of a shit about what people think about him, he’s proven he’s more than willing to go out on a limb.

by kg on Feb 19, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks people should stop citing Sean Sherk when it comes to this matter. I mean for one they barely grappled at all and just because he couldn’t get his midget arms around GSP in the sprawl doesn’t make GSP a greaser. And even if he was a little slippery Sean Sherk was on fucking steroids, and that’s not speculation….. it’s in his fucking blood. That fact alone should make anything Sean Sherk says regarding another fighter cheating totally irrelevant. Sean Sherk is a roid monkey with three inch arms and he will never again hold a UFC belt. As for Kru Phil Nurse GSP should fucking fire his ass. I haven’t heard him come out once and appologize for putting his fighter in such a tough spot. If the UFC doesn’t dump him GSP sure as hell should.

by Hal on Feb 19, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

LOL @ 3 inch arms

by stevo on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That video is awesome! I love both of them, but for anyone who saw their first fight, and factoring in the grease, cannot truly say that GSP would “smash” him again. Win, yes, he’s already done it once before, but in that impressive of a fashion? I think not. Barry Bonds was a great player before juice, and an MVP, but a little hgh and some test and he became the best player ever. Similar situation. GSP may be the equivalent of a 40/40 Bonds, but w/grease, he’s a 70 hr guy. Cheating is cheating. Rule that shit a NC and lets do it again…w/rash guards!

by JeffR on Feb 19, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

I can say GSP would smash him again, if you have been watching their fights from the first time tell now you might of realized that GSP is greatly improved, BJ has slightly improved but not nearly as much as GSP. After the first round of the first fight GSP has got that much better. Most of us had the GSP BJ fight correct but Alves is going to be the biggest test for GSP to date. And I fight I can see going either in the early rounds to Alves or later rounds to GSP? One reason most MMA fan’s picked GSP against BJ was not only did GSP have a size and strength advantage he also had the endurance,speed and MMA IQ advantage BJ had a next to nothing chance. The Alves fight i think GSp will only have the speed,endurance and MMA IQ but for the first time at least in the early rounds he will not have the strength advantage or size advantage.

by Beaver on Feb 20, 2009 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Can someone out in Hawaii please duck tape this midgets mouth shut? Or I wish a Tsunami would just wipe out that worthless island.

by Vince McMahon on Feb 19, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, you are quite officially, a worthless piece of sh*t

by --utaptout-- on Feb 19, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone please remove BJ’s tongue and knock his teeth out soon!

by Vince McMahon on Feb 19, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Hey guys let me translate this Video for B.J ok? WAHHHH WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHW WWWWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH WAWWWWAAAAHHHHH WWAHHH WAHHHHHHH

by scottythebody on Feb 19, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

LOL :)

by Vince McMahon on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This is just getting annoying. BJ’s never gonna let anyone forget this. If they fight again I won’t even watch this time cause it will be the same result. Now Georges’s biggest win ever will alway’s be remembered in controversy because of his fuckin cornerman.

by broncos12405 on Feb 19, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

said it before… hope penn commits suicide.. for him to post this video on his website is just classless…

BJ YOUR NOT THE FIGHTER GSO IS AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THE DEDICATION TO THE SPORT. THIS FIGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT YOUR BEST… AHHAHHAHAHAHA IS THAT WHAT U CALL THAT? HAHAHA NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR PATHETIC PERFOMRANCE… I DONT CONSIDER YOU A PROFESSIONAL.

by holyintellect on Feb 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Guys let me translate Scottythebody’s late night ok? “Come on Big boy give it to my mouth… I want you to spit on my face, Not too fast its too big let it slide in smoothly”

by Not1ofyourStPierreNutHuggers on Feb 19, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

(rimshot)

by stevo on Feb 19, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

damn this is a powerful video…GSP didnt intentionally cheat so i do not want to see a GSP vs Penn 3 but its def gona have to be looked at BIG TIME. Phil Nurse has fairly got himself in a bit of bother!

by Randy for Couture on Feb 19, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Damm what a sore looser BJ is i didn’t think he was such a cry baby take ur ass whipping like a man GSP is just better than YOU accept it move on down to 155

by will on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

Somebody call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE for Penn and all his crybaby nutthugers.

Penn is making himself look totally classless by clutching as straws and making it seem like the only reason he lost was because of Vaseline, which was then WIPED OFF before the round started.

B.J., you got your ass handed to you. Man up and move on.

by Ronnie Coles on Feb 19, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

BJ got his ass pounded end of story. If this video makes you believe he was cheated you are easily brainwashed. I seen the fight three time and every phase of the game he got pounded. If GSP wanted to have a greasy back he can get it ligit before the fight all he would need to do is sweat during the fight added with the moisturizers he could of applied daily before the fight. No matter how much Penn and his corner cry the blues 95% of MMA realize this is he really that stupid he believes we think he could of won? well maybe that was a dumb question. I hope GSP get’s to fight Penn again, there would be nothing better than watching Penn the spoiled cry baby getting his ass spanked again.

by Hello on Feb 19, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

man somebody needs to shut BJ up,GSP beat him like he was a child plain and simple….hope to God Florian taps him out when they fight

by Canz on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

If they ever do fight again i hope that it isnt for the belt. Just a reg none title fight. Why does GSP have to put up the belt a second time against a weenie like Penn? Im hope that GSP is training in the gym and not worrying about this said issue because in my eyes he has the 2 biggest fights of his career coming up. First Thiago Alves and if we wins Anderson Silva. By the way Florian is going to pick Penn apart in striking and in the floor. Bye bye BJ!

by danny_c on Feb 19, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

st pierre’s, a cheating bitch, bjs a grappler of course hes gunna be pissed y do u think st pierre kept taking him down cause he knew bj couldnt hold on…just to make him self look good…all out st pierres a cheater…!!!

by Matt on Feb 19, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Penn got his ass handed too him. This is awsome GSP has made BJ penn cry like a little school girl LOL, Fuckin A I love it all you BJ fan’s must be hating life now. Your favourite fighter is a little spoiled B^tch. This video is hilarious do they think they can change peaples minds cause they added music? Penn grow a set and suck it up butter cup, GSP is better than you nothing to be ashmed of.

by Puck Head on Feb 19, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said Puck Head. We all know BJ has near zero chance of winning including Dana and the UFC so I won’t even get my hopes up on GSP pounding the cry baby for a third time. BJ and his corner never had any problem until after the fight proving he is full of sh*t. CRY BJ!!

by Ringer on Feb 22, 2009 3:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Here’s what I know…And by the way I agree with hello, would like to see the fight again, and feel very confident it would end the same way.
1. There are too sides to every story and in a court of law there’s the prosicutions side and the defenses side, one side usually sounds good until you hear the others side.
2. I personally find this video laughable and very transparent, with there close up shots, editing and music they could make the pope look like a pervert.
3. Phil nurse is a complete moron I personally wouldn’t mind if they banned him from any future UFC events, he tainted or ruined ufc 94’s main event and hurt boths bj’s and gsp’s fan base, as far as if he did it intentially there is no proof to this, he might have or it might just have been a stupid mistake, I believe the later. I just can’t believe anyones so dumb to do something like this on purpose with so many cameras on him in such and important fight.
4. Gsp the cheater- what proof is there of this? Has he ever being tested positive for steriods..no. Can you proof he asked phil nurse to put vas on his body…no. Matt hughes, matt serra, jason miller and sean sherk are accusion gsp of feeling greasy, this is heresay and not proof, has anyone ever heard of the term lying? Or face to glove to body transfer of grease, which they may have felt? Fitch and kos never found gsp greasy his toughest opponets to date.
5. The fight should be ruled a no contest- Sherk was caught using steriods and lost his belt and they didn’t over turn his win, neither will gsp’s.
6. Dana white commented on this fight “gsp is guilty of stupid cornermen” I completely agree.
7. The NSAC said “this was definitely unfair to mr.penn”, he also said “It was unfair to mr.St.Pierre as it will tarnish an other wise very impressive victory.”
8. I’ve seen the fight several times and find it very hard to believe penn would have won if the little amount of vas wasn’t applied, I think it only made a difference with the high guard(which they played ad nausem on the video) were penns legs were slipping down. Penn has never submitted anyone in an MMA fight from his guard and gsp is a powerful bjj blackbelt much stronger than penn, give me a break.
9. It seems only overly emotional penn fans think the vas made a difference in the outcome(obviously the owner of the video did, and if penn didn’t feel it had such an effect he wouldn’t have allowed it on his site), pretty much everything I’ve ever read from articles on the fight at every sight I go to, top pound for pound fighter list, the conscenses is they didn’t feel the vas affected the out come of the fight.
10. They repeat the hit to the back of the head over and over again, grabbing the shorts which made no difference as gsp couldn’t get the take down, how since gsp has vas on his shoulders, penn couldn’t get the hight guard, but I guarantee if there was a pro gsp video you would see over a dozen things(without replaying them over and over) thats had nothing to do with vas on gsp upper back and shoulders that gsp owned penn at. Just watch the ENTIRE fight for god’s sake with an unbiased look at it. If the exact opposite happened, penns corner men rubbed a little vas on penn and penn destroyed gsp, and gsp had all these videos on his website as to how the vas was the only reason he lost, I would think gsp was not only the inferior fighter but a douche bag as well and thats my honest opinion.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Come on, man! If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a FU@%ING duck! There’s no damn way that this is a coincidence! I have always been a big fan of GSP! But, there’s no way he didn’t know! Like him or not, the truth is obvious here! And saying a fighter “is being a poor sport” because he’s pissed about getting screwed by a cheater? How would you feel? As far as I’m concerned, I now believe this was not the first time! Too many fighters have brought up the subject concerning him greasing! And the camera shows it clearly! Some will protest my statements. That’s fine! But, I’ve lost respect for GSP and I believe he should lose that fight by disqualification! Period! And anyone out there would feel the same way if you were the one who lost to him after learning that this occurred. I’m no longer a fan! Innocent until proven guilty? I’ve seen and heard all the proof I need to draw my conclusion! What more do you need? I believe GSP is a very gifted athlete! But, is he anywhere near as good as we’ve all been giving him credit for?

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Feb 19, 2009 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t believe how many dim witted people are on this blog. How much of the fight was actually on the video 2%? How about the other 98%. Phil Nurse is a f**king moron who ruined ufc 94, and gave penn and his fans some way to save face, intelligent people, like those who analysis fights and are unbiased towards either fighter don’t buy into this the vase made all the difference shit.

I’m pissed my self because ufc 58 was controversial and this one is now too, god damn it all becuase of nurse NOT gsp you idiots. Phil nurse pulled a brain fart infront of millions of people, I hope they fine him or don’t allow him in the cage for future fights. The two people who really know how much of a difference the vas made in the fight is gsp and penn, penn knows he got his ass kicks fair and square, gsp was the better fighter that night and so does gsp end of story, lets move on.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

Can someone please shut BJ up. I am so sick of hearing this. Just suck it up, you got beat by the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

by johnny on Feb 19, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

and bj penn too

by holyintellect on Feb 19, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

sucks that his corner used vaseline in the improper way

but comeoone, bj doesnt have the tools to hang with gsp

and i was going for bj

by MMA Wallpapers SF on Feb 19, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

Alright…If GSP cheated, and I believe he did(intentionally or not), then we were all robbed. This fight was billed as the biggest fight in UFC history. It didn’t live up to the hype. If extra Vaseline on GSP’s back is what caused this, then f*ck him for robbing us. As big a fan as I am of BJ, I didn’t care too much about the ultimate outcome.

GSP is the most well rounded fighter in the world. He is probably the most athletic and genetically gifted fighter as well. Numerous fighters, way back to Jason Miller, have said that he has felt greasy, and other fighters in Jackson’s camp has been acused of it as well. GSP would have won this fight anyway. But maybe if he wasn’t slick, we could have seen a more competitive battle.

I’m not going to say that GSP is a cheater. I will say this however: GSP is a listener. He does exactly what his coaches and trainers tell him to do. If Greg Jackson told GSP to grease, then GSP greased. If GSP wasn’t told to grease, then GSP’s cornerman was. GSP is going to do what he’s told to do, no questions asked. He’s not a hard guy to convince.

BJ has said before that he can’t stand cheaters. He called Sherk on the roids, and now he’s calling GSP on the grease. Noone said anything too loudly about GSP greasing before, but maybe its because noone wants to be the guy accusing someone of it, or “making an excuse”. Maybe BJ isn’t making an excuse. Maybe BJ just doesn’t give a f*ck if you think he’s being a cryer, and feels like a level playing field is more important for the sport as a whole. Maybe BJ was robbed as much as we were as fans because we all know that BJ is a better fighter than what that performance showed.

With all that has happened, I hope they watch fighters more closely in the future. I hope we see an excellent fight between GSP and Thiago. I’m very glad that fight is going to happen, and I’d rather see it than BJ vs. Alves anyway. Because of all this greasing BS, I hope Alves beats the hell out of GSP…I just don’t see it happening. GSP via UD.

by --utaptout-- on Feb 19, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

“Numerous fighters, way back to Jason Miller, have said that he has felt greasy, and other fighters in Jackson’s camp has been acused of it as well”.

The glaring problem with this is GSP wasn’t with Jackson when he fought Miller, Sherk, Hughes 2 or Serra 1.

by Gord on Feb 22, 2009 5:15 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ goes to a canadian club and sees GSP sitting at the bar. He goes up and, in a crackly bitter voice BJ says: “Whinning is very close to winning GSP. take H and you’re a winning”

For that BJ, you whine so much, one day you might win ;)

by BJ PAIN on Feb 19, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

I’m never going to comment on this subject again, its so pointless, don’t know why I bothered in the first place maybe because I thought the video was so funny and i like to debate things. Onto the alves/gsp fight, this subject is getting old and annoying.

by nathan on Feb 19, 2009 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

you fucken complainer! bj you fucken suck and all of your speculations are a way for trying to fool yourself into believing you ahd a chance! you are a washed up fat fucker that needs to accept a loss and not make excuses you fufoo

by Ricky Fartin on Feb 19, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

it too hard to penn and his cam to admit that gsp it too good..in every aspect of the game…only adam g …could love and believe in that shit hehe warrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr penn yeahhhh sure! pride….pride…

by big on Feb 19, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

If you actually watch the fight, you will see that when BJ goes to rubber guard, there is so much friction that GSP’s back actually wrinkles from BJ’s calf rubbing against him…this wouldn’t happen if there was a lot of Vaseline. After the initial rubber guard, BJ doesn’t even get his leg over GSP’s shoulder, so I don’t understand people saying that GSP was slippery…watch the fight again. The fact that his skin wrinkles shows that there was a lot of friction, and he was not slippery.
BJ used to be my second favourite fighter hands down, but now I’m getting a little sick of this trash-talk after fights…I don’t mind it before a fight takes place, but this is getting retarded.

by MM_Eh on Feb 19, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

Sounds like a bunch of whining bitches trying to explanation why GSP beat the shit out of them. You’re fighters, man up and deal with your losses.

by zwarrior2 on Feb 19, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

BJ Penn has a Manvagina.

by Puck Head on Feb 19, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

i agree

by holyintellect on Feb 19, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You stay classy, BJ Penn.

I would like to see BJ Penn take on Brock Lesnar, and for Lesnar to destroy BJ and end his career. He’s an egomaniac with 0 integrity or character.

BJ Penn = HUGE DOUCHE

by Craig on Feb 19, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

OK BJ we get it, your all washed up and full of shit. Keep this up and you’ll pull a complete tito in no time.

by Eddy_j on Feb 19, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

This is such horse SH!T

by TOMMY-OUZO on Feb 19, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

BJ – you and your team are a bunch of bitches. I don’t care how many videos, allegations from other fighters or whatever other propaganda BS you try to create. It still doesn’t take away the simple fact that you lost so decisively it’s disgusting. Standing – Check. Ground game – Check. Cardio – Check. There was nothing you could do to GSP the entire fight… oh, except QUIT like a little pussy after the 4th round.

Some fools on here want to accuse GSP of cheating and it’s complete garbage. Yes, his cornerman made a mistake by rubbing some excess vaseline on his shoulders and back, BUT, it was in no way shape or form a tactic to give GSP an advantage in the fight. Anyone who wants to think otherwise is retarded. GSP could have been covered in vaseline from head to toe and the fight would have had the same outcome.

Bottom Line: BJ KNOWS he talked WAAAAAY too much smack before the fight and he did’t come close to backing it up. He can’t stomach the fact that he got his ass kicked and I mean KICKED in front of the biggest PPV of all time and will forever be rememembered for it.

I truly believe if BJ can’t let this go (and he most likely won’t) Florian’s gonna have a new belt in a couple months.

Then what BJ? More BS excuses? Here’s a thought. Maybe if you trained harder you wouldn’t need excuses. Maybe if you reflected on what you did wrong in your fight with GSP, you could correct it and come back stronger.

by MMA Fanatic on Feb 19, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

I found this article very interesting, one that makes the most sense to me.
 "I have been pretty quiet regarding the whole "greasing" incident involving Georges St. Pierre at UFC 94. Partially because I feel the potential grease applied didn’t affect the outcome of the fight, but mostly because there has been enough discussion other places online about it.

I’ll begin by saying that I don’t condone cheating in any form by any person. Whether it’s a fighter like Georges St. Pierre, Yoshihiro Akiyama, or Clay Guida, or a trainer like Phil Nurse or Greg Jackson, cheating in any form is unacceptable.

However, I feel that a lot of the heat regarding the incidents at UFC 94 should be aimed directly at the Nevada State Athletic Commission and its officials.

The NSAC assigns an official to each fighter and that official is with said fighter non-stop leading up to and through the duration of a fight. The NSAC official is with the fighter in the locker room when getting his hands taped and leading up to his entrance; walks side-by-side with the fighter to the ring and stands next to him before the fight begins; is in the ring during each round intermission; and follows the fighter back to the locker room when the fight is completed.

If a fighter is allowed to be greased up in the manner that Phil Nurse allegedly greased Georges St. Pierre, the NSAC is largely to blame for letting it happen. What is the point of having an NSAC official assigned the fighter and his trainers if he is not watching for infractions and rules violations.

In the past few days, several of St. Pierre’s past opponents have voiced their feelings about GSP being "greasy" while they fought him as well. If this truly has been going on as a repeated offense for St. Pierre, how have we gotten to this point without it being noticed by the NSAC or any other commission?

It is extremly difficult in an MMA setting, especially in the UFC setup, to intentionally grease up a fighter and get away with it. In fact, it should be extremely difficult to unintentionally grease a fighter and get away with it.

Perhaps the NSAC should look into getting some capable and competent officials to prevent issues like this from even being possible in the future."

by NSAC sucks!!! on Feb 19, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

I always thought GSP was a guy that liked having vasoline applied to his backside!!!

by The Prodi-G$ on Feb 19, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

What a well done video. Grease or not, BJ knows what he’s doing with the masses.

Very compelling.

by Boondock on Feb 19, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I agree BJ Penn is a mangina Puck Headt! his video shows us nothing that we haven’t seen before, just a p*ssy crying to wrap song does he think this video will make him look cool while he’s crying? Oh well he’s making himself look like a bigger panty every day…good job bj you make GSP look better and better everyday what man can make another man such a bitch?

by Ringer on Feb 19, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell yeah this is going to add to GSP’s legacy!! Not only did GSP Beat BJ Penn so bad he had to tap between rounds, he has made BJ the UFC’s biggest cry baby!! Alves is probaly second guessing his upcoming fight now? Is this the song BJ Penn sulks too at night while he lay’s in bed and ponders the beating he has took before he goes and f*cks his mangina?

by Beaver on Feb 19, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said NSAC sucks!!! If there is any finger pointing to be done it should be at the athletic commisions themselves there supposed to be doing there jobs making sure stuff like this doesn’t happen, they test for drugs and steriods. If hughes and company thought st.pierre broke the rules why the hell didn’t they privatly complain to the commission? If a guy “baths” in baby oil the night before etc etc all they have to do is put the guy in a steam room and if he’s as oily as a pig he’s busted. The commission REALLY needs to hire competent officials who aren’t a step above glorified security guards, stopping guys from “greasing” shouldn’t be difficult for a big organization like the ufc. If some sore loser in the future complains the fighter was greasy the commission should be held accountable and be able to state he wasn’t because they did there jobs.

by raff on Feb 19, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

Didn’t BJ grab the fence in that fight? Yet, the video left that out. :o

BJ is just a sore loser.

by Jason on Feb 19, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

i don’t know who’s more retarded…bj penn, or his clearly retarded fan base. not that st. pierre’s fans aren’t prone to fits of lobotomized seizures once in awhile, but come on.

the thing that is really amazing in all of this is that if you look at compustrike stats on this fight, bj penn made exactly ZERO SUB ATTEMPTS. furthermore, bj’s yes-man rudy valentino (does this guy have any backbone?) claimed that their strategy coming in was to fight off the back(?!?!?!). yup. which is precisely why bj put amazing amounts of energy into defending the takedown throughout the first 2 rounds. so…either he’s a lying sack of shit, or bj and his posse really are a bunch of yes-men who have no idea how to strategize for a fight. clearly st. pierre has the most monstrous top game in probably all divisions combined, yet they are trying to pass off this loss like that was their actual gameplan. well bj, it didn’t work. it didn’t work at all. you got owned everywhere for 20minutes and although the grease thing is pretty weak, it was incidental and had zero impact on not only your performance, but also st. pierre’s.

please dana, let’s schedule a rematch so bj penn can be retired for good and his massively frail ego can be put in it’s place once and for all, no excuses. it’s best for everyone, and it’s especially best for bj penn (another ass whooping with no excuses to be contrived up will surely make him think a little harder than he has been lately and who knows, maybe he’ll finally grow some balls and own up to the loss fully. and…perhaps he’ll also understand the fundamentals of martial arts…respect and humility).

by Phil Baloni on Feb 19, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

Well said man.

by MMA Fanatic on Feb 20, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a question did BJ or his corner ever protest between rounds?

by Beaver on Feb 20, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL good one Phil Baloni a little harsh but funny, you do bring up some good points. Why was penn doing 1000 sprawls a day which he said he was doing on all access and defending the take down in round one like his life depended on it. And bj saying he was semi-knocked out after round two…the only impressive thing he did was his reversal of georges in round three. I don’t know who is the biggest idiot in this whole thing phil nurse, NSAC or rudy valentino… but I’m going with phil nurse, NSAC a close second and rudy in third place. They should rematch free on spike, a non title 3 round fight, bj can were rash guards and georges has to be washed down with anti grease soap before the fight. :P

by raff on Feb 20, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

fuck bj hes a bitch

by abe on Feb 20, 2009 4:56 AM EST reply actions  

bj penn sux b@!!$ hes a big baby tha doesnt know how to loso.come to cali penn so i can whooop you

by abe on Feb 20, 2009 4:58 AM EST reply actions  

All this “hate” on Penn is ridiculous… I mean, this was the biggest fight of his career and arguably the biggest fight in UFC history – and after he’s lost, he finds out about “grease-gate”, sees Dana Whites’s and others’ reactions (“Georges is in trouble”) and people from the NSCA saying things like “it definitely wasn’t fair”… isn’t he entitled to feel just a bit pissed off? I know I would be – especially if I really did think it played a part in my defeat.

Videos like this are just adding fuel to the fire and keeping Penn in the public eye… and all you guys who can’t wait to see him get smashed are playing right into his hands, lol. Love him or hate him, he’s a pretty smart guy.

by SteveHulk on Feb 20, 2009 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

yeah Steve every man out ther wants to be known for having a mangina?? I guess your right some men have no pride?

by Ringer on Feb 22, 2009 3:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Being a GSP fan I have to admit that the video definately offers reasonable doubt. They should fight again for sure. I’m glad this happened though in way cause if it didn’t who knows how long till they would have changed the vaseline rules?

by Ognitinoc on Feb 20, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t agree SteveHulk for one I think NSAC didn’t do there job and secondly penn is losing fans at a horrendous rate, I don’t see how smart that is,making excuses that over 90% of the public don’t buy can only hurt you. Bj should have shut his mouth period, been gracious in defeat, admit georges was the better fighter that night, not allow all this grease gate crap on his site which only made him look worse. It was caught on camera already, the UFC was already upset about it, it would have been smart for him to humbly accept defeat and when the time is right and after he’s earned it fight georges again.

by raff on Feb 20, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think he’s losing fans at a horredous rate – it’s only some people on internet forums, which is a VERY small percentage of the actual viewing audience… the non-internet or casual fan probably doesn’t even know about this whole greasing thing/controversy. But if Penn is making some people dislike him or playing up the “sore loser” role, I do think it’s a smart business move: “controversy creates cash”… make them love you or hate you – at least people are talking about you and want to see your next fight.

by SteveHulk on Feb 21, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ Penn is a weenie. Watch Nurse. People act like there was baby oil spattered all over his hands and he massaged it into GSPs entire back.

by BABY J Penn on Feb 20, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

I guess it’s ok if Nurse only cheated “a little”. If he cheated a lot, then it would be different.

by Kdog on Feb 20, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

If that is the best BJ Penn can do to demonstrate that George was cheating — i.e., editing a video with commentary that showed little or absolutely nothing — then he really is just being a very poor loser. I WAS a BJ PENN fan before the fight and even after the fight (that is until this whole greasing controversy). Now I hate BJ Penn because I think he got his ass kicked and is being a very poor sportsman. If indeed there was some vasoline on Nurse’s pinky when he rubbed St. Pierre’s back, I don’t think it made one bit of difference. But let’s be serious, it is not unusual for any fighter to have a cornerman smear a bit of vasoline around the eye and then give the fighter a shoulder/back rub.

To be fair to Penn, I think that a fighter’s corner needs to be more careful. I do not disagree that Nurse probably had a scintilla of vasoline on his finger. In being a sore loser, Penn has smeared an otherwise classy fighter. It is unfortunate that St. Pierre is the target of, what I would consider, a pretty minor problem in the UFC, but the standard of what will be a lesson for all fighters, trainers and cornerman.

BJ….you are a disgrace. Your video is far from a conclusive display of cheating. So shut up already…..

by Thor on Feb 21, 2009 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

Bj Penn as of February 25th 2009 has officialy been found by MMA fan’s as the first fighter in UFC history to have a mangina. CRY PENN!!!!!

by Beaver on Feb 21, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

25th?……ahhhhh good one Beaver. I was about to ask. CRY BJ!!!

by Ringer on Feb 22, 2009 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

This is pitiful, even if it did happen this sort of slander is worse. I can’t believe this video is on this website, before it’s been tried.

So classless, I will root against BJ for now on out.

Poor sport and primitive BJ

by BJ/2 on Feb 22, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

gsp saw the vasoline but didnt care do i think gsp cheated hell yeah cause you got to be stupid not to realize vasoline on your own body gsp is the biggest cheater in mma

by surash on Feb 22, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah this was such a part of their strategy that Greg Jackson told GSP to “take a round and kickbox”. yeah really taking advantage of the “grease-up”.

by shel on Feb 22, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

The way GSP beat i’m Penn knows the only way he can get a rematch and a prize fight …is by doing this

by Alain Dion on Feb 23, 2009 8:08 AM EST reply actions  

wow that video made alot of sense

by Jack FIsher on Feb 23, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

hi guys
bj penn would of won that fight if gsp didnt cheat
dam u guys r so stupid n shit
saying that bj got his ass kicked
bj was winning until gsp cheated
if u noticed bj won the first round n then lost the other rounds cause gsp cheated
ty for your time losers

by vangstaboi on Feb 25, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Ya the vasoline made GSp faster in the stand up too!! LOL

by Beaver on Feb 28, 2009 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ’s highpoint was when they first touched gloves. Despite all the cutting and splicing that BJ does on his website, the infraction occurred at the end of the 1st round — every round after that the commissioner wiped the sweat off of GSP which would actually help BJ hold him in his guard. It was in those last two rounds when GSP was at a disadvantage that he really kicked Penn’s hind quarters in one of the most embarrassing one-sided displays ever.

Penn lost because GSP was a much, much better fighter and Penn had no answer. He was slower, weaker, less skilled, and had less cardio. What would you expect?

by Bill on Feb 28, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

NSAC is about to make a ruling in the beginning of March…They’ve already reviewed all the tapes from UFC94…even the ones weren’t aired…They are just waiting for an official statement from the GSP camp…and deep down,everybody knows its not looking good for GSP…come on…all you guys are quick to judge all this like u ya’ll some professional analyst n shit…haha…just wait it out another week…we’ll all see who’s goin do the cryin…

by timewilltell on Feb 26, 2009 4:01 AM EST reply actions  

I love BJ as a fighter and a person but I think he should not post stuff like this to the fans. It just makes him look like a whinner, especially because he would not have won the fight either way, grease or no grease.

Give this stuff to the athletic commission and let them draw their conclusions.

by Nolan on Feb 26, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

The year of 2009 BJ Penn was the first MMA fighter found to have a Mangina!

by Beaver on Feb 28, 2009 3:02 AM EST reply actions  

This whole topic is ridiculous. Dana will never let Penn fight GSP again.There are many top fighters at 155 lbs that deserve a title shot. Penn and his camp aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer, but They don’t want a rematch either….they just want to try to save face by making excuses. BJ is fully aware that he can do absolutely nothing to GSP at 170 lbs. Regardless of which fighter you like , the ass-kicking we witnessed on feb 1 would be probably much worse in a 3rd fight.

by mikey71 on Mar 11, 2009 6:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I used to be a BIG GSP fan. After watching that fight, I think the trainers in GSP’s corner did cheat. So they should never be allowed to have anything to do with the UFC again. GSP should not be given the win. They should have to do a rematch and watched carefully. I didn’t care much for BJ Penn, but fair is fair & if you have to cheat to win, then you are really not a champion.

by Ms. Donato on Mar 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

BJPenn is such a loser. The fact is, He was dominated from the beginning to the end by George St-Pierre. Vaseline is not restricted during the fight, is not a banned product because you can use it on your face. During this video, where BjPenn look completely exhausted, there is no proof of using Vaseline on other place than is face. The reality is BjPenn won’t fight again G. St Pierre because everyone knows including BJ penne itself, he would be dominated once more. George St-Pierre will prouf during the UFC 100 that he is and still the strongest and best fighter in all categories. Le Québec est derrière toi George, tu donnes de la fierté aux québécois! Bonne préparation

by J Braen on Mar 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

you cry look like a little girl!!!piou piou piou!!! ufc must tell you ‘’shut you’re f***king mouth mr.Penn or you’re out of UFC!!!that’s it that’s all!!!!go to the gym and up you’re head and prepare you to sleep vs GSP UFC CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!!in french : arrete donc de brailler comme une femme laide, ta perdu ta perdu c’est toute!!!!ta deux choix 1- de continuer de pleurer sur ton sort comme une merde pas de couille ou 2- de te relever et de faire face a la musique comme un grand garcon, point a la ligne. la ligue du ufc devrait dire a mr.Penn ‘’ aye l’gros ta perdu c’est toute, la t’es en train de faire perdre toute crédibilité a ton sport, fa que ferme ta chr***st de yeule pis prépare toi pour un combat revenche contre st-pierre parce qu’a voir le combat que tu a fait la derniere fois….t’es mieux d’etre mieux préparé parce que sinon tu risque de te faire démolir encore une fois face a georges, pis la georges va etre tres faché contre toi faque ca va surement faire encore plus bobo…un vrai champion sait se relever apres une defaite, un trou du cul (ass holl) comme toi ne fais que pleurniché et se trouve des excuse de perdant….en terminant…c’est plate perdre hein??? Lache pas georges on est tous deriere toi le quebec et le canada tout entier!!!!!
                Frank ‘’the Tank’’

by Penn cry baby on Mar 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

lolll man, BJ is really the champion of BS, he is by far the worst sore loser of all time, first time he lost was cauz of the judges and his preparation and now this…hope there is a third one and let’s tie one of GSPS’s arm so the fight can be a bit more competitive…as for the size factor, another excuse, there almost the same height, it’s about a guy being all muscle and in shape and the other one walking around with a belly…at anyweight GSP would destroy Penn 10 times out of 10… STFU and go carry some more rocks in the Ocean numbnut!!!

by Berg on Mar 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

bj penn is a loser. this video is a bullshitt. gsp can beat im all the time. peen have to close is fucking mouth

by franck on Mar 24, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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