BJ Penn accepts fight against Georges St. Pierre in summer 2009 that probably won't happen

Wow, BJ has balls (pun intended)!

this is over ! bj got his ass handed to him. move on and worry about the 155 division and let GSP worry about alves. this is enough.

I think it’s a bad move from BJ Penn being one of his ultimate fans but since this “greasing” incident I think the rematch is warranted.

I’d watch it. BJ would be more motivated, GSP would be watched more closely and the fight could certainly play out more differently. I’d like to see BJ fight other welterweights prior to the fight however. Prove he can compete at the weightclass against a larger welterweight. Fitch or Alves would be cool.

come on BJ, move on. you gotr your ass handed to you. go worry about florian which isnt gonna be easy by no means and let GSP worry about alves.

I would rather see BJ fight Florian for the LW belt & GSP defend against Alves. IF this fight takes place, it should take place later in the year after both Champs have defended their straps again.

This guy is unbelievable. I guess he wants to end up in the hospital again. GSP will kick his ass once more.

so now we got to listen to water head penn talk shit yet again and probably get crippled this time. Georges must have gave him brain damage surely this dumbass dosent really believe he can win.

For the record I Don’t want to see this fight again. BJ should go back to 155 and defend his belt and GSP needs to fight Alves. Then GSP moves up to fight Anderson, rather than fight motor mouth Penn.

Move on. I didn’t see anything from B.J. last week that makes me think that the next fight won’t be a lop sided match again. No point in paying money for a fight that you know the outcome before it happens.

I am one of BJ’s biggest fans, but lets face it…BJ was beaten in the standup, he was beaten in the clinch, and he was beaten in cardio and he was overpowered. If Georges was not greased, the best that BJ could muster is a surprise submission ala Frank Mir vs. Brock. That’s not a satisfying victory to stake the claim as one of the best pound for pound fighters.

If I were Dana, I’d have to say No to this fight.

BJ should move on, he’s one of my favorite fighters but Grease St Pierre is too big and strong even without being a cheater. Let’s see Silva wreck the cheating Greaseball Canadian. Also let’s see BJ build his legacy at lightweight.

Man I think BJs brain cant be functioning right. He’s Fn crazy to want to actually fight GSP again. Im almost speechless, I just cant figure out what is going through his head. Based on the last fight I just dont see any way for him to be able to beat GSP. He got dominated. I think for his safety he just needs to move on and get over this last fight. Im afraid if GSP is actually pissed over this thing he might permanitly injure BJ or worse. and I dont want to see that happen to any fighter.

I use to have respect for BJ but this kid is just going down hill. Give it up, you got your azz kicked!! Now learn to deal with it!

man Bj got his ass whipped worse than I thought he has lost his mind Gsp already beat him twice each time it gets worse for Bj, Bj just sound like a spoiled brat a sore loser he needs to go back to 155 and stay their!

BJ is just running his mouth again…I don’t think he really wants to fight GSP again he is just so proud and full of himself he is just saying he wants it again. He looked scared in their fight and he definitely was a broken fighter and I don’t see him having any chance against GSP.

GSP won’t have the title after a fight with Alves.
That would be a better time for him to fight Penn.
Maybe he’ll be hungry instead of greasy.

listen! if Peen fought st pierre 5 times it’d be 5-0.

lets move on

no i personally dont want to see this, and this is classic bj, who will blame everyone else bar himself for his performance!

I don’t understand why BJ was so slow against GSP?? and he didn’t even box with GSP, he look scare…GSP landed so many Jabs, punches & Kicks…I mean went BJ fought Sean Sherk, he was a totally different person, what happen to his hands, was the extra weight slow him down?

BJ you’re my no:1 favorite fighter, but I think you should learn other discipline, like Karate, Muai Thai, improve kicks, you have to find a way to strike from the outside….I know you’re the best boxer in the UFC, but your boxing alone will not be enough to win over GSP.

Wow, GSP hit his head harder than I thought…lol.

Seriously though, all this does is result in another delay for both the lightweight and welterweight divisions. They will both defend their titles against the #1 contenders before anything. Then assuming Dana lets this fight take place, whoever the new #1 contenders are from both divisions will have to wait again. It may be hard to get the match up anyway with the suspension. GSP will probably be fighting a month or two earlier than BJ throwing their schedules a little bit off. I want to see more title defenses and although BJ won’t have many good lightweights to fight after Florian, I still want to see title fights.

Just let it go BJ.

please BJ has already lost two times, and has done nothing to make me believe he could someone like Kos, Davis, Fitch, Alves or anyone.. he’s too small and not good enough of an athlete to compete at 170!! give it up and go back to 155

I think BJ should go and train with Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida…he has to learn from the BEST in GAME..otherwise he will get left behind…I mean GSP had Rashad training with him before the fight.

no i do not want to see it again, quit crying BJ .. move on George kicked your ass! deal with it.

Well, he’s gone from GOD to GRAPPLER. I get it. God looks down, and Grappler’s look up. Nice one, Boom Boom BJ.

Hell yeah, I’d watch it again!

You dance with the Devil (GSP) and you’re gonna get burnt!

By this coming summer 2009, GSP will still be the Champion, so no harm, no foul.

this is all a bunch of bulshit bj penn is such a little bitch gsp might actually kill him this time in the ring hed be so pissed if i was gsp i would not fight him for a third time who wants to to rich franklin anderson silva for a third not me and i love rich….tito, chuck 3 no def not….seriously this is beyond stupid they wiped him down twice with a wet towel try it yourself see how “greasy” you are not to mention it was such a small amount that was on the back of his hand …dont take that fight….

Great… You know what’s going to happen now, right?

Penn’s going to act like he and GSP have officially agreed to fight, and when Dana White decides he probably doesn’t feel like promoting a rematch after such a one-sided beating, Penn will start running his mouth that GSP is ducking him, because he’s afraid to fight fair. Just watch…

Man, and I thought I couldn’t stand this arrogant #$$%&!@ before.

wow, lets completely f*ck over Kenny Florian and Thaigo Alves

GSP’s my man, but there is no way I’m paying to watch this fight. I wanted to see BJ sh*tkicked, and I did. Time to move both the LW and WW divisions forward. This shouldn’t even be talked about unless both GSP and BJ win their next fight. Even if it’s set up after they defend their titles I won’t be paying $50 to watch it. Final point, if they are to fight it shouldn’t be for the WW title as there is no way BJ can claim to be the number one contender.

Give it up BJ. GSP will beat him even worse this time just to prove a point. GSP vs. BJ 2 I didn’t really care who won, if GSP vs. BJ 3 happens, I hope GSP beats him unconscious.

Plz kick this idiot out of the UFC…..after he loses to Florian.

Why would they kick him out he brings in alot of money…and no matter what people like you say win or lose you still like to see him fight so dont act like you despise the guy.

I think a 3rd one is pointless and the result would be the same GSP is to big for BJ and Penn just needs to stay at 155 and build his career on that.

I like both GSP & Penn but this is too much.

BJ has the ego of a narcissistic teenage girl. His grappling is overrated and next time GSP will hurt him even worse. If we are all lucky BJ Penn will end up in a wheel chair and we will never have to see his pathetic ass again.

I’m actually angry enough that BJ is pulling this stunt that I’d boycott the PPV. BlowJob found the one shred of an opening that will allow him to salvage his massive, cabbage-headed ego. He got schooled by GSP – he doesn’t deserve this second fight. I am far more interested in see contenders within the LW and WW divisions get their own chances at the title.

Reminds me of when Tito Ortiz beat Ken Shamrock’s ass a bunch of times.

Wont be suprised if the 4th one appears on UFN

How can anybody have any respect left for BJ Penn after this? He’s such an egomaniac he can’t even accept a loss! The guy has a complete asshole personality, is completely full of himself and yet people still support the guy? Come on, BJ Penn loves himself so much nobody else needs to. At least GSP is a man when he loses and he accepts it instead of making excuses.

Hey BJ Penn! Grow up and accept reality.

I would watch just to see my boy GSP get another easy win. Like I always say. “A walk in the park”. Penn’s spoiled little bitch-ass will likely get White’s attention too. What a waste of a decent fighter. He’ll retire. In shame with his tail between his legs. GSP will thump him even harder, notice GSP is STILL improving, BJ hasen’t improved since around 2007. Can’t see him and his brother coming up with a more diverse, more structured and solid plan to fend the attack of Georges, let alone offensively beat him. Sorry penn. Just sorry, man.

Can someone tell me why they allow grease at all? Eyes or not, if it is on the fighter it will spread.

this is great!! we get to see BJ get raped yet again!!

Great… can’t wait to see BJ Penn… doing nothing?… again?

GSP by ownage!

BJ need to put on tons of muscle and train hard for the next 18 months and learn other discipline, like be a better wrestler (before considering fighting GSP again) or may be fight a few other WW guys and see what happen,

To be honest, all these rematch bullshit is just for entertainment,I reckon DANA created all this hypes, so he can put together Penn-GSP3, is all about $$$, just like the last fight, BJ show up like he wasn’t even interested….so to me this is all about entertainment…money making…

..what happen to your hands BJ?…were they disconnected from your brain?? you hardly throw any punches… I thought you were the best boxer in the MMA world??

Let BJ vs GSP happen, but BJ gives up lw belt and then we have 8 man tourn. winner being frankie edgar

Penn is a sore loser. Maybe he wants a rematch with GSP in the summer in order to delay Florian’s savage elbows?

Bj had better win this time around.

Or at least do well.

To be honest, had he gone into the fight gracefully, and hadn’t had such sour grapes after, most people would have thought he was a badass for going 4 rounds with a much bigger, stronger, more athletic guy.

So if it happens again, he’d better dominate.

Which I don’t think he will. And all it says about him is that he should fight at 155.

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

I second Jonny Boy! said perfectly brother!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet again, BJ weasels his way into a title shot without earning it. This guy always gets his way! WTF, so pissed right now. I hope GSP kills this piece of trash. I mean, look at what Thiago had to do to get a shot. He had to beat Karo, Hughes, and Koscheck in a row. Fitch had the longest undefeated record in the history of the UFC. Serra had to win in a whole show. BJ, hasnt fought a Welterweight fight before n years and he lost his last one but through some thrash talking, he gets his title shot. This is BS!!!

I says let’s get the fight scheduled in 8 weeks.

RIP BJ if they ever fight again.

Even BJ has admitted that GSP was the better fighter that night. Dana won’t let this fight happen because it will sell like 2 PPV’s. No one wants to see this one again, even GSP fans like me. BJ lost the first time and he got destroyed the second time—there’s nothing left to prove.

But if BJ would rather get his neck broken than retire…

Dana will not let it happen again so soon and this would put the lightweight belt on hold for too long.

Penn needs to take the loss and move on in his own weight class.

There are some good match-ups for Ken-flo and Alves if they do, in fact, have to wait for another rematch for their title shots. If Diego can get by Joe Stevenson, wouldn’t a TUF 1 Finals rematch make a good LW #1 contender match for April or May? Diego vs. Kenny for the LW title shot would make a lot of sense, and this time it would be at their natural weight. You can also put Alves against Swick or even Fitch for the WW title shot. Alves vs. Swick would make more sense though, since Swick has been on a good winning streak and also showed interest in an Alves fight. Then you can take the two winners and give them their title shots later on this year. Look, I don’t want the titles put off for another year anymore than you do, but this is just a scenario for if they decide to go in that direction.

I wanna see this fight as much as I wanna see another Anderson-Cote fight. It’s over BJ, get back on your horse & ride the 155 pounders where you belong. I doubt that Dana is gonna make this happen (maybe in 2 years at the least) because there are a lot more than 2 fighters in the UFC. I doubt Dana takes the chance of losing his “other” fighters.

Yep.

I’d like to see GSP kick the sh!t out of bj a third time. And hopefully kick his ass right out of the sport with tito ortiz.

Let them both defend they’re #1 contenders and if they both survive (and even if they dont), get it on again for the last time by the end of the year.

yep

BJ BJ BJ!!!

How about an immediate, quick turn around rematch like sylvia/arlovski 3.
They’re both still in shape and bj didn’t take much damage, he can get cleared in a month.

Then blowjob can retire and go back to his mansion on the hill where we dont have to hear about him anymore.

This is the dumbest, stupidest, most pointless, retarded thing to ever possibly happen. Does BJ think for one second that he has or would have a chance against GSP if this fight were to happen. ( dont think so because i think he ll lose to Florian) GSP beat him back in the day split decision, destroyed him when at 170,, no he is calling him a cheater are pissing him off and he thinks he will get out of the second round alive,,, Stupid stupid stupid spoiled little bitch wow. All hes doing is trying to get another paycheck and another ppv, his legacy is being tarnished by this bullshit. As far as im concerned this fight will never happen. if he loses to florian it wont happen, if their fights goes 4-5 rounds it will never happen because it wont look good on BJ. This kid is done, i do want him to retire now and shut the F$%K UP!

This is stupid. BJ needs to get a life and stop being a crybaby and accept his loss like a man. Hes boring and a winer

BJ the Homer Simpson plan didin’t work, GSP won’t get tired, just stfu and defend your belt ya little pudgy brat.

Oh no, please don’t do it BJ. I love you man but you don’t need another devastating loss in you career. I would’nt be suprised if St. Pierre submitted you in the next fight just to shut you up forever.

i say he gets a rematch but without the belt on the line, just a rematch. Nothing like another BJ penn beatdown to get my day going. I really see him retiring after Kenflo takes the belt form him which will happen eventually.

Ok, here’s my take:

BJ looked like shit but he hasn’t been that impressive in his last 2 fights either. Dominating Jens wasn’t that impressive especially considering his recent record which is now at FW. Joe Daddy regained his guard and lasted much longer than he did against Florian. While he looked better against Sherk, it was a very one dimensional performance. Even in the first round against GSP, BJ was flat footed. Facing an obviously bigger and stronger foe, it seems to me avoiding the clinch should have been more of an emphasis since he hasn’t shown much from that position in any fight in his career that I remember.

Having said that and acknowledging GSP’s masterful performance and very specific and methodical plan, GSP has stated in interviews since that his cornerman was performing a “ritual” by tapping on his chest and going in circles on his back. WTF!! From scientific to mysticism? And after viewing the infraction, which it CLEARLY was, while you can’t see exactly how his hand was moving on GSP’s back, Phil Nurse clearly, and I emphasize CLEARLY again, immediately after rubbing vaseline on his face placed his hands about the collarbone or even higher and wiped in a downward motion applying to his upper chest and then after rubbing in a circular motion on his temples immediately rubbed from the same collarbone area outward over the shoulders.

Now does this mean BJ would have won? No. Did it make a difference? We don’t know. But GSP does pull his right shoulder out when BJ attempts the high/rubber guard. Would this move have been made much easier with a greased shoulder? I would think so. Was it cheating? Yes. According the NSAC rules.

Having said all this, BJ’s best option IMO is to concentrate on his LW title belt and work on developing better cardio, a kicking aspect to his striking, and leaving the decision tainted in the minds of some viewers long enough to work some improvements into his game before any rematch with GSP because I don’t believe the outcome would be any different until then and while both are world class MMA fighters, another fight with GSP would probably be even more boring and frustrating for fans like me that want at least attempted finishes other than outlasting the other fighter’s cardio which is as boring as it is a good plan.

Some of you guys just don’t get it. GSP has a lot of pride and is a champion… as such, there’s no way that someone in his position could have his well earned victory called into question without responding – could you?

Basically, GSP has been called a cheater, and it has also been implied that had he not ‘cheated’ the BJ would have won. How could someone like GSP not do anything about that? He doesn’t want his victory tainted, he wants to be the undisputed champ… no question!

Have the rematch, get it done and over with. But, I’ll definitely enjoy watching Penn getting smacked around like the punk he is, again.

Also… if you were to look at other fights/fighters, I think you would see actions that could also be considered ‘greasing’. In the case of GSP, it’s more blatant, but we all no it wouldn’t have made a difference anyway. After you have your face greased and it rubs against the opponents shoulders and other areas when wrestling etc. then you end up greasy anyway. NSAC has GSP mopped down and allowed the fight to continue, now they’re backpedaling.

GSP for the 3rd win!

I really dont want to see this fight again. It’d go the exact same way.

I predict that there will be 200 posts before 12 pm.

So uhhh…..War BJ?

I’ve honestly never wanted to see a fighter hurt in the cage but I hope gsp beats him so bad he’s carried out on a stretcher, this rematch will never happen tho, bj will not stop training with yes men, and he will continue to be the only fighter that is never rated on his fights, but rated on what would have happened in the fight if he had trained, had cardio, hadn’t separated a rib, hadn’t been affected by grease, hadn’t fought someone on roids, or w/e other excuse he makes.

BJ is just casting shame on his own career. In one breath he says “It’s not an excuse GSP was better” and in the other he says “I couldn’t apply my subs, Keith Kizer says it wasn’t fair” boo hoo hoo….. a third fight would only result in another ass kicking and then he’d be scrambling to find another reason he got shit kicked.

BJ Penn is a joke.

Damn this little idiot is stubborn !!! plus .. he is like an unstoppable excuse machine … every fight he ever lost there was some bogus factor that resulted in him losing that had nothing 2 do with him .

I will not pay another dime to watch another fight between these two.

If this fight is going to happen, it had better be on a Fight Night card, ala Tito/Shamrock III. Pretty much the same scenario.

BJ, if you read this….you’re Shamrock in this scenario…just so you know.

My biggest, I guess you could call it “misunderstanding”, of this whole situation is this. How is this even an issue if the officials at ring side let the fight continue after the intitial application?

It’s like being stopped for an illegal blow to the back of the head, or a shot to the nuts and it being ruled as a warning and the fight continues. Only to have the fighter(in question)harassed and accused of wrongdoing aferwards(by actual officials, not fans). It just doesn’t make sense. Thats why you have an “official” there at ringside. This situation is proving the irrelevance of ringside officials and depending on how you want to look at it, possibly even refs. Hell, if the Athletic commission can not accept the judgement calls of their officials then what is the point?

I wonder if BJ will man up and take GSP up on the offer to both wear rash vests. ***smirk*** I noticed he left that part of the offer out of his acceptance. Wonder why?

Penn is not a figther is a actor! Go crying little creep! Everybody know if Penn want a rematch it for the money and also if they had is ass kick again wihout vaseline.

And John, i know you are BjPenn who try too sale a rematch on the net! We dont care about you, we want to see good mma and now we know clearly that was wihout you at the 170pounds!

What a little bitch, little spoiled bitch, you know you fight GSP again BJ. Im sure you will remind us all that the fight was not fair for a long time to come. Keep talking shit BJ, we all saw both of the fights and GSP kicked your ass in both of them. You know you cant beat so yhou take the little bitch way out. I am now officially not a BJ fan anymore and am so disgusted with him that the UFC may lose a fan when he is on the card.

seriously BJ? GSP will beat your a$$ again. I’m sure during the course of a fight more vaseline is transferred from one fighter to the other just by wrestling alone, probably far more vaseline gets rubbed off of a fighter’s face during the fight than was accidently applied to GSP. BJ got whooped and is trying to get his way out of it…excuses, excuses.

The weight difference is kind of unfair. Pierre comes in at 185 of pure, conditioned muscle, and penn comes in at a fat 168. I think they should meet somewhere in the middle or something. It would the fight more fair and more interesting.

Penn is by far the better fighter, he just lacked weight and a gameplan.

WAR PENN BABY, WAR PENN. Less tal, more walk BJ, show me it was a fluke rgardlss of Vas, BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!!!

so now we have to put the light weight and pretty much the welter weight championships on hold for the rest of the year because of this bologna. you wonder why there are so many cards this year being put together without championship fights. there’s your answer.

I WILL NOT WATCH A 3RD FIGHT! THIS HAS TO BE BOYCOTTED! HOW MANY TIMES DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO BEAT THE SHIT OUTTA SOMEONE?? I THINK THIS WAS FIXED! I SHOULD KNOW! DANA HAD IT PALNNES THIS WAY, HE IS LEARINGING FROM ME.

Other than the fact that St. Pierre is the better fighter in which he easily proved on the 31st. The simple fact is, BJ did NOT train hard enough for this fight and it showed.

He completely gassed in the second round. And even in the first he showed fatigue. The fact is BJ doesn’t want to work hard for things. He doesn’t train like a champion. Carrying a rock under water and casually strolling though the park won’t win you a WW belt. He would rather rely on his natural talent, and when he loses, he says his opponent is a cheater. Its disgraceful.

I know this loss may be hard for him to swallow, but its done. He lost decisively. Vaseline did NOT play a factor. No one wants to see a St. Pierre-Penn 3 because BJ will get his ass kicked even worse and all you Penn nut-huggers know it!

BJ will not fight GSP again, he has said ok lets do it but he knows he will never get in there again with GEorge. Every fucking time he loses there is an excuse, Matt Hughes (owey my sturnem injury) GSP #1 (he cant accept he got beat down for 2 of 3 rounds = you lose chump) GSP #3 (Vaseline = BJ is a bitch) just lose with some dinity man. Do what all the other great fighters do when they lose, congradulate the other guy and go away. You are one of the only fighters out there I have seen in 13 years lose and not just admitt that you lost. BJ wants to go down as the greates of all time, dude you should not even be on the short list. Real professionals and great fighters accept defeat without excuses, you do not for this alone you should be off the list. Not to mention hasnt he lost 3 of his last 5/6 fights, explain to me what makes him the best. He is definitly better at whinning and complaining than anyone else.

id watch them fight agan, maybe at a catch weight of 160-165. but bj should have to beat kenflo, plus another challenger first, and st pierre should have to beat alves.

but really, if st pierre beats alves convincingly then i would rather see him try his hand at moving up a weight class by either fighting anderson at a catch weight of 178, or moving up to 185 and fighting a top 5 as a warm up to fighting anderson.

if st pierre doesnt beat alves convincingly or loses, he should keep fighting out 170 and then anderson keep challenging fighters at 205.

The Only way i see this happening is if Alves Beats GSP. Then later on the put PENN Vs Pierre III for a three round fight ..

Yeah, that’s my boy right there. Love him or hate him, you have to admit the dude isn’t scared of anyone.

People, People…. This is such BS! GSP is a better fighter. Secretly everyone knows this. First fight…. GSP won with a double vision due to an eye poke, imagine what would have happened if he did not suffer from an eye poke. Second fight…. what a dominant performance, BJ lost in EVERY aspect of the fight. Why was BJ not able to use his legs properly is his guard? Simple, watch the fight again and you will see that GSP postures up every time BJ tries to hook his legs. Vaseline or not, that is skill and preparation. BJ is not a man, he is a big, spoiled baby that will never accept his weakness, in his mind, he has none. I lost all respect for BJ, he should not even be talked about as a hall of famer. A great fighter is not only someone that can win, but all and above, a great man and a humble one. Look at Randy, Forest, GSP, Rich, all of them are great champs and current of future hall of famers due to their ability to win and lose with their heads held high and who look to themselves for reasons attributed to their losses. That is a making of great champ. BJ is none of those. His plan to retire did not work out as planned and thus he is simply consoling himself. He is a loser, a whiner, and a asshole for making probably the biggest UFC fight to date, a fiasco. As for the Vaseline, at has been said over and over that a minuscule amount was transferred but wiped off, making it a non factor. BJ says in his complaint that Vaseline rendered his BJJ useless, WOW, he just completely diminished BJJK and his own skills. Do people really believe that Vaseline can render BJJ useless, tell that to the Gracie family, their legacy was tarnished by BJ. Anybody with a touch of Vaseline can kick BJ’s ass since his BJJ would be useless. That says a great deal about his skills. And for those who still think this was intentional, read this http://www.yardbarker.com/mma/articles/GSP_did_not_break_the_rules_Everyone_Read/500654 . The fight was in Nevada and rules are clear. GSD did not break any rules even if the Vaseline was intentional. BJ, if you read this, I hope you will be remembered for this fight and nothing else, you dont deserve to be in the champs league of Randy, GSP and Rich. Third fight ? No way does he deserve it, GSP owes him nothing.

This is actually annoying. Theres only one thing in this sport just as annoying as a bad winner. Its a bad loser. BJ, YOU GOT A WHOOPING. Grease or not. Stop pulling excuses out your ar$e and accept it. A tiny smear of grease on someones back isnt the reason for being punched repeatedly in the face.
I dont care if these two meet again. GSP will give him another spanking.

If they fight again GSP will retire him. There is no way Penn could even beat Alves at this point in the game.

This fight will probably never happen, and at the earliest, the fight would happen at the end of ‘09 or on into ’10. Not gonna happen though. Dana put on his megafight. We know who’s the better fighter. Time to get back to opening up both titles to the contenders in those divisions.

UFC 101 – “waste of time”

BJ/GSP
Randy/Chuck
Tito/Ken
AA/Silvia

Look at me , i am bj penn and im ridicilous! But i dont care cause i have no proudness!

That the kind of champion we want???? Certainly not! GO!Florian GO!

THIS IS FIXED. DANA WANTED THE CONTROVERSY. HE IS LEARNING FROM MY WWE. THE FIGHTS ARE NOW FIXED AS WELL!!

adam g u sound a little butthurt about your boy losing. Talk all the shit you want about gsp. He used a strategy that worked perfect against bj penn and donimated in every aspect of the fight. Why wasnt this fight exciting unlike most gsp fights? Because bj penn was getting his ass whooped the whole time. He never landed a punch and never came close to a submission. Gsp jon fitch was exciting why because fitch actually faught back and didnt give up like a bitch in the fourth round. I would give a rematch to fitch before bj. Bj is a quitter, a shit talker that doesnt back it up and a guy that is using vaseline as a excuse to get a rematch when it wasnt a factor in this fight. bj U use to be one of my favorite fighters now i hoping for kenflo to send u to retirement. adam g bj penn nutthugger for life.

THIS INCIDENT WITH VASELINE WAS PRE-PLANNED. DANA KNEW IT WOULD CAUSE CONTROVERSY. THIS IS FIXED. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. IT IS WORKING.

I know what UFC should do…. Forget the GSP / PENN rematch, based on BJ’s comments, “The Vaseline” neutralized BJ’s BJJ skills and thus won the fight, just hand over the interim WW championship belt to “The Vaseline” and have GSP fight “The Vaseline” for undisputed WW championship belt. If GSP pulls a win over “The Vaseline” then we know for sure that GSP is a better fighter, not only did he give BJ the worse beating of his career but he also successfully defended his title to “The Vaseline”. Enough said.

To the untrained eye, BJ looked out of shape and almost like he got his ass beat…

Lol, Penn should just shut the hell up and go hide in a hole for the rest of his life.

THIS INCIDENT WITH VASELINE WAS PRE-PLANNED. DANA KNEW IT WOULD CAUSE CONTROVERSY. THIS IS FIXED. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. IT IS WORKING. HE LOVES THE TURMOIL IT HAS CAUSED!

If Adamg starts saving up his welfare checks now, he could afford to go to this pointless fight, AND take his baby’s mama!

Dude what the hell ever this is a must for a rematch, GSP cheated and they should take his belt for it and make them fight again, Winner takes the belt and the title-no defending champ in it, just a straight fight. What a bunch of BS

OH MY GOD, I’ve watched the fight three times and gsp dominated penn in EVERY aspect of MMA, clinche, striking, wrestling, passing gaurd, penn move on. This whole vasoline thing is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

  I bet more vaseline is transferred to the body because of the face which is covered in it, it gets on the gloves etc etc . Every fighter has this “handicap” its just part of the game. The vasoline nurse put on gsp’s shoulders was nothing, but it was still stupid to do and IMO only doctors should be allowed to apply vasoline, one dumb move like that tarnishing gsp’s win and giving penn some excuse.

I highly doubt very many fans would want to see gsp/penn 3, anyone with any common sense who watched the fight with any objectivity would come to the conclusion gsp is just the better fighter.

Who wants to see gsp fight hughes, serra, sherk again? Or chuck fight tito or tito fight shamrock? Or anderson silva fight franklin? I doubt nurse was trying to cheat, why? gsp already won the round and everything was going to plan, a very stupid mistake….yes and he should be repremanded.

 To say gsp is a cheater is completely stupid and unprovable, only that nurse applied a small portion of vasoline on gsp is, which the officals rubbed off after rounds two and three, wiping off sweat too which would take advantage away from gsp as sweat makes the fighter harder to submit. Penn did worse in rounds 3 and 4 AFTER the vasoline and sweat was rubbed off, gsp is too evolved for penn as an MMA fighter and much stronger, its so obvious.

And to all the douche bags coming out of the closet now claiming gsp felt greasy why are we only hearing about it now? Gsp completely owned this guys in every aspect of the game, sore losers, I’ve seen them all my life.

  Getting humilitated the way penn did would be a very tough pill to swallow just as gsp’s trainer predicted. And now he found a way to ease his wounds, ecspecially after all the shit he talked “he’ll think I’m god” “to the death” “he obviously has no idea what will happen to him” and then gets beaten down and his corner throws in the towel.

I want to see gsp fight alves god damn it, alves DESERVES this, penn didn’t. Florian DESERVES a title shot, I can see a lot of light weights under estimating penn now after gsp dominated him but that would be a huge mistake, as I really doubt any of them could take him down. Penn dominated sherk which is something I can’t see many light weights doing, I think penn will beat florian convincingly, and he should stay at light weight weight he belongs.

This is pathetic on Penn’s part, the amount of vaseline put on GSPs back was less than i use to JO with. Gimme a break this had no bearing whatsoever on the fight. When did BJ have all these submission attempts that were nullified by GSPs greasy back? Was it between getting kneed in the ribs and staring into the camera like Bambi in front of a big rig?

Jonny your delusional, and must be one of penns friends or penn himself.

good one canadianmma LOL :P

Canadianmma, bull’s eye !

most of the vaseline came on Gsp’s face… just to clean phil nurse hands with the rest he smear it up Gsp shoulder amd his upper back

besides…with or without vaseline… bj got his ass whooped!

UH IF THEY WERE CHEATING WOULDNT THEY TRY AND HIDE IT?
 NOT DROP A SLAB OF PETROL ON HIS SHOULDER??
 AND BESIDES I REMEMBER THE REF WIPING IT OFF ,RICH FRANKLIN HAD MORE ON HIS FACE THE MATT HAMILL FIGHT ??
BESIDES THAT SQUARED….B.J U R A WHINER ,
AT FIRST HE SAID IM RETIRING!!!!!
 THEN SOMEONE SAID :SOMETHING ABOUT AN ARRANT BLOB O VASELINE AND WAHLLAA B.J. HAS AN EXCUSE ,HE \BITCHED WHEN LYOTO MACHIDA BEAT HIM TOO …HES HOLDING ,,,,
      HEY PINEAPPLE HEAD GET IT RIGHT YOU LOST PUSSY
HILOS FOR VACATIONING …NOT WELTER WEIGHT CHAMPIONS

besides..bj got his A S S whooped

Seriously, anyone who wants to see this fight again, or thinks BJ would have ANY reasonable chance of winning a rematch is a frigging idiot.

Remembering the fight Penn wasn’t even working from his back until the second round and the Nevada State Athletic Commission said that they wiped off GSP’s back before round 2 and 3, so how the the vasoline relate to anything. Phil Nurse and Greg Jackson should have been more careful but BJ and everyone knows that the outcome would have been the same.

Heres my take and i like both fighters, favour none!!

Rules are rules and if gsp broke the rules then there has to be consiquences, whether that is a no-contest, a rematch or a fine??

Secondly, both guys should fight and defend their belts in their respected divisions first, and win or lose a rematch can be set up between the two of them. As was said by both it wasnt about the belts it was about the “name”.

Let them do it, its a win/win for all parties, gsp gets to prove for sure with no underlying debate. BJ gets a chance to show up without any excuses and maybe in shape. thirdly the ufc get another huge ppv and the fans get a nice fight!! I personally love seeing the big fights, whats one more gony hurt??

THIS INCIDENT WITH VASELINE WAS PRE-PLANNED. DANA KNEW IT WOULD CAUSE CONTROVERSY. THIS IS FIXED. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. IT IS WORKING. HE LOVES THE TURMOIL IT HAS CAUSED! DONT FALL FOR THE FAKE STUFF! I SHOULD KNOW! :)

Of course penn is going to accept the rematch, he wouldn’t turn down a fight with anderson silva, he has too much pride and ego. Penn is extremely pridefull I can’t even imagine what is going through his head right now, considering all his comments. If fedor, gsp and silva challeged penn for a pound for pound tournament he wouldn’t turn it down, you have to hand it to penn he is a fighter, not a smart one but a fighter.

  I’ve know people like this before, knowing they are outmatched still willing to “die” trying because of pride, its kind of embarrassing to admit it but I’m a little like that LOL. I’m a pridefull guy, hate to admit it, but if someone kicked my ass I would want revenge. I’m not sure penn gave up, I just don’t think he could have continued, his head was probably spinning and with the doctors advice his corner threw in the towel, I bet penn would have fought on if it was up to him.

Everything gsp said came true, everything penn said didn’t come true, I guess you could say gsp has more credibility than penn. Is penn a good fighter ya, but he belongs at 155, he’s won once and lost 3 at welter weight and won 9 and lost 1 at light weight a fight he avenged. I hope he fights florian it should be a good one, just like gsp and alves should be a good competative fight.

Does any of this remind you of Tyson vs. Holyfield?

Tyson was so worked up because he couldn’t get under Holyfield’s skin like he could with everybody else. Holyfield’s attitude was one of supreme confidence and it drove Tyson crazy that he couldn’t intimidate him. BJ, blame it all on the vas dude, whatever…’cause like that was totally the reason you got crushed like a bug.

Penn sounds like a spoiled bully and quite frankly sounds unstable… how many times is he going to change his tune? Is he excepting a fight he knows wont take place? For the life of him he just cant admit GSP is any good or God forbid, better.

So now he gets a THIRD chance to train right. Think he will? It’s like on the playground and you are flipping a coin to see who will get home field, except every time the other guy loses he says “Wait, do it again, that one didn’t count” then “Hold on, I wasn’t ready…”

I will say one thing, BJ’s chances improve with every “re-do” he gets. Maybe he’ll get it that he has to train his ass off. It shouldn’t be that way though. How many other fighters would go to these lengths to avoid having to admit a loss. Wounded ego man…

BJ Penn has no class. He is a disgrace.

Please NSAC, come out now with your verdict so everyone can attest Vaseline didn’t play a role in UFC 94.

To all BJ fans, remember when you all said “BJ is not implying he lost because of Vaseline, he knows he got beat by a better fighter, he’s not implying GSP cheated”.

Well, there you have it. Penn is a coward and he’s looking for a cowardly way to escape his fate.

Penn is a coward. He his dishonest.

PUSSY DANA SO WANTED THIS! HE LOVES PUNKIN EVERYONE. MMA IS FIXED!!!!

BJ Penn is full of shit. He was never in that fight. He was outclassed from the first exchange and he knows it.

I expected BJ to beat GSP. But his showing was weak while Georges made a phenomenal showing. Credit to Georges. BJ’s crying is unbecoming of a fighter of his stature.

I have to eat my words. I really thought BJ would have pulled it off. GSP showed he has the mental edge. He’s got to be the most athletic and conditioned fighter in the welterweight division. Unfortunately technique don’t count for much if you get overpowered. I still hope BJ can redeem himself and his fans. Till then I hang my head in shame

Adam G — Somehow I missed this thread over the past few days. I have to say, you’re one of the most delusional fans regarding Penn and GSP on here, dude. BJ total completely pounded in that fight. But he’s the real fighter, and GSP isn’t. Uh-huh. So, I guess winning is losing, and losing is winning? The goal is to finish your opponent. GSP finished his opponent, by literally wearing him out. That’s MMA.

GSP’s corner clearly applied Vaseline on GSP’s shoulders and back..I’m not saying its cheating but it needs to be looked into and that what BJ’s management is doing. I think the outcome of the fight would have been the same, but his corner should be punished for their actions.

As it stands now I don’t think BJ Penn is Hall of fame material.

He’s only 3-3-1 in title shots/defenses in the UFC.

He only has 1 title defense. ONE!!!

He’s only 13-5-1 all time in pro MMA and 8-4-1 in regular UFC events (excluding Ultimate Fighter 5 Finale).

can someone tell me who had the vaseline put on him in between rounds,it was put on the face(good)on the shoulders (bad)on the back (bad)& dont forget arround the chin & neck (bad&bad).Oh never mind I remember it was gsp.This whloe thing really sucks cause I like both fighters but they both lost alot of respect from me.Please guys be real and admit win your rong.But with that said WAR BJ/GSP/VITOR/515

I think BJ was hit to hard an way too many times , this guy is so delusional he actually thinks he has a chance ,, lol kizer never said what BJ claims he actually said there was no affect of the miniscule amount of vasoline rubbed on GSP shoulders considering it was completely wiped away immediately ! I don’t mind GSP beating that punching bag 1 more time luv to watch the 3rd beating BJ takes,BABYE BJ,, yeah i guess the tad of vasoline that was wiped away from GSP must of been Bj kryptonite and made GSP superman,, what a tool BJ is I guess he figures He can try AND SEE IF HE CAN GET THAT LUCKY PUNCH IN ,,,HAHA OR EYE POKE LIKE HE DID THE 1ST FIGHT THEY HAD ! after that GSP will Retire BJ ONCE AN FOR ALL!

Has anyone even watched the replay of this supposed incident? It’s not as if the cornerman rubbed the vaseline and then applied it directly to GSP’s back or shoulders. He rubbed it on his face first before he started working the chest, then shoulders, then back…anything left on his hands when he touched GSP’s back was a trace amount and was completely rubbed down when the commission caught it. If they really wanted to cheat I mean cmon they would’ve done a better job. If he had just wiped his hands on his pants real quick this wouldn’t even be an issue. If this had any effect it was only in round 2. So why couldn’t BJ even hold guard, was there grease on GSP’s shorts?? Why was he getting picked apart on his feet? And seriously what if BJ got GSP’s back? You really think they want a dominant jiu-jitsu expert on his back with grease around his neck?? Easy choke right there. He got a good old fashioned beat down and after all that shit talk he is embarrassed. That’s all there is to it…go KenFlo

like fuck BJ penn hes stupid , GSP is sgonna bang him out again , like sit on top of him for most of the fight and beat his face in , and when they have another rematch because BJ penn cant face the fact , GSP will destroy him again. CANADA WHAT

penn, you need to realize what i have been telling you for years now,,, GSP IS LIGHT-YEARS AHEAD OF YOU AND ALWAYS WILL BE MORON! Now go play in traffic asshole!

penn is a slow learner, very very stupid blow-job eye poking penn!

BJ Penn-is has one more lesson to learn from GSP besides the fighting, it is class. Maybe BJ should ask GSP to wrap himself with double-sided ducktape so that Mr. Penn-is can grab him more easily.

LET THEM FIGHT!!!!! I WANT TO SEE BJ PINN JUST BEAT A MUDHOLE INTO GSP OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THE PIECE OF CRAP… HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND WHAT HIS CORNER WAS DOING WHEN THEY GREASED HIM UP LIKE THAT SO NEXT TIME LETS DO IT FAIR AND SQUARE GSP AND THEN LETS SEE WHO WINS.