War Machine (Jon Koppenhaver) gets cut from Bellator Fighting Championships for mouthing off

I agree why would your boss just sit back and watch you disrespect him or the company….MMA is a business it doesn’t matter what org.

I like him – the guy has a lot of anger :)

I actually like to watch War Machine fight, but He needs to just STOP TALKING altogether! Just dont speak at all! He blew his chance in the uFC and now he blows a shot at winning a quarter of a mil…..when else will he have an opportunity in his pathetic life to make that kind of money?

somebody needs to slap a muzzle on this kid!

go away bore machine…you suck anyway.

He should know better than that. The nerve to make fun of the all powerful Messiah. Who cant go a day without another bumble. LOL

Guess “War Machine” likes to play Russian Roullette with a bullet in every chamber. Pendejo.

LOL.

Freedom of Speech isn’t like that. There’s two things you don’t talk about at the dinner table: Religion and Politics. If you do, you’ll find yourself in arguments.
So it’s not about saying what you want and where you want. It’s about learning when to say things and when not to express your freedoms.

Yeah so what your saying is it’s not literally “freedom” of speech? Because that’s the way I see it.
God I can’t wait to leave this country.

lol sean m was that sarcasm?

If you can’t wait to get out of this country then hit the fuc*ing road dick. You’re not needed here.

Wouldn’t matter if I was needed here.
There’s no helping America.
The Conservatives are taking over.
lmao.
Liberals and Socialist might as well move to a place where common sense is valued more.
hahaha.
I’m out of here A.S.A.P.

Freedom of speech means you don’t get arrested for stating your opinions. It doesn’t mean an employer has to hire you when they think your speech hurts their brand.

They’re gonna fire somebody over an opinion?
I mean come on, get over it.
It’s not like, as a fan, if I hear War Machine say something I don’t agree with, I’m not gonna stop watching BFC.
It’s a ridiculous reason to fire somebody.
If they fired him because they didn’t like the way he fought or something worthwhile then I don’t care.
But over an opinion? This guy lost his job over an opinion?
It’s just unbelievable.

Hell yeah PUG, someone knows what the hell they are talking about.
That completly sums it up right there, case closed.

Yo Madnuts, opinions are opinions, if you choose to express yours which are strongly agaisnt your employer, it is the employers right to keep to there opinion, thats the beauty of it, you can have yours, the company can have theres, everybody has one, nobody is left out.

Like Pug said, Koppenhaver is protected by freedom of speech and can say whatever he wants, he will not be punished for it, but it is the companies right to uphold there opinion and no longer see him fit for employment.
If you wanna get outta here good luck, if you think you are gonna go somewhere where you have better freedoms than here, yeah right. And if you do, wanna konw who you can thank for starting this whole “freedom” trend? Yeah that’s right, my ancestors, americans.

The people who started this “freedom” trend, were actually Europeans, but nice try anyways.
lmao.

I wasnt being that technical Madnuts, if you wanna be, than yeah i understand there is no such thing as americans, unless you are talking about “indians” or native americans. I am talking about all the different people that broke away from the “homeland” and began to call themselves americans together.
P.S. Thanks for completly bipassing the main arguement about the speech and opinions though.

Actually it is illegal to discriminate against your employees over their political or religious views. At least in law. In america $ and power has pretty much replaced law and most common americans are too fat/dumb/lazy/poor/scared to do anything about it.

I’m completely in favor of freedom of speech. I disagree with just about everything War Machine stands for, but the freedom to have divergent thinking is what this country was founded on. That being said, if any employer of his doesn’t like being represented by a racist homophobe that is certainly their right. Freedom has to be in place for all parties.

Freakin a my other post is in moderation or I just didnt send it. Ok so anyway if you wanna get all Technical than yes I agree there is no such thing as american’s unless you are talking about “indians” or native americans. I was referring to the many Europeans that left there home countries and banded together and called themselves americans. That is who I was reffering to, you can thank them for this whole freedom trend anyway.
P.S. I like how you just bipassed the other main arguement about Koppenhaver and the company.

If you hate America why don’t you just leave? Why are you here? Have you ever been out of this country? In other countries you don’t have even the smallest part of our Freedom of Speech. In some places you can get arrested for speaking out against your government. I’ve lived/traveled all over the world and know for fact there isn’t a country on this planet I would rather live in.

Freakin a my other post is in moderation or I just didnt send it. Ok so anyway if you wanna get all Technical than yes I agree there is no such thing as american’s unless you are talking about “indians” or native americans. I was referring to the many Europeans that left there home countries and banded together and called themselves americans. That is who I was reffering to, you can thank them for this whole freedom trend anyway.
P.S. I like how you just bipassed the other main arguement about Koppenhaver and the company.
(This is the 3rd time, im gonna get it threw dangit)

you’re country is what the people make of it.if you hate the country so much then do something about it.try and change it for the better instead of complaining on a mma forum.you used the ’you’re the reason this country sucks’ line madnuts on another user .well the truth is the countrys condition is the people like you fault.people you complain whine and cry about their plight but do nothing to fix their state of life.i doubt you’re rights or freedoms have ever been trampled on you child.grow up

sweden is pretty cool or australia.

lets just say that if you speak out on things like that, you’re gonna get in big trouble or fired from whatever team or organization you’re in, wherever you are in this world… bottom line is that a$$holes gets into trouble wherever they go!

Wow people are dumb(looking at you Madnuts). Do you not have to work? If you show up at your job and make racist and homophobic statements is your employer just going to be like, “Oh, it’s America, freedom of speech why don’t you tell us how you really feel”. Or are you going to get fired? Because I KNOW I would get fired and rightfully so. Freedom of speech does NOT equal being able to say whatever you want, wherever you want, whenever you want. Just as the 2nd Ammendment doesn’t give me the right to walk around downtown with an AK-47. You really are nuts. That’s some of the most piss poor logic, and completely ill informed garbage I’ve ever read. Please leave, you’re the reason people hate America.

Madnuts,

War Machine was not fired because of his opinion. Look at it this way, I might have the opinion that my boss is an a-hole. Nobody will fire me for having that opinion. However, if I tell my boss that he is an a-hole or that my opinion is that he is an a-hole, then I will quickly find myself without a job.

Since you seem to favor the discussion in the light of freedoms, basically, you are dealing with two competing freedoms. The freedom of speech vs. the freedom to pursue employment. Yes, I’m free to speak my opinion (as long as it is not a threat or hate speech, speech that infringes on another’s freedoms. However, I’m also free to work for any company I choose or to not work at all. Likewise, a company is free to hire/continue my employment.

War Machine is too immature to see or understand that freedoms are a two way street and hence, a responsibility is held by both parties.

Why am I getting moderated?

The dude said that he hopes the president gets “smoked” and every other president gets “smoked”. That is a threat to the president. Everyone knows you don’t say stuff like that.You just don’t do it.

and that’s their right. they have an image to uphold. War Machine: STFU or GTFO.

Well said Rich.

pss of course he commited suicide.. maybe they don’t wanna say it cause that would make Evan bad in some way, but he did that was the most obvious thing ever… when they posted that thing about him going deep into the desert like a week before it happened or something i knew he was looking to kill himself, he should have been stopped but that was what he wanted!

That is what im saying, exactly.

I agree. When I said “I don’t think he should be canned” that’s just my opinion. Doesn’t imply that I think BFC shouldn’t be allowed to fire him.

If they tried to stop him from doing it, or tried to silence him or take his blog down, that would be different. But go to town War machine, nobody is gonna stop you.

@ Anomaly

wouldn’t it of made more sense to just say something like “You can’t scream N**** in a crowd of blacks”

Because your freedoms are conditional on not infringing on the freedoms of others. And because it’s flat out dangerous and thus illegal. Madnuts, I don’t think you understand the difference between rights and laws. For instance, making threats of physical harm is against the law. Assault is defined as a violent physical or verbal attack. If you scream “fire” in a crowded theater and there is no fire, you are creating a situation where ppl will run for the exits and there is a likelihood that ppl will be trampled.

As for the company firing War Machine, he is an employee and is thus subject to upholding the image of the company. If you are a CEO of a fortune 500 company and you are caught on camera at a sporting event blackout drunk and making a fool of yourself, there’s a good chance the board of directors will send you on your way. If you pay attention to the news, you would know that Michael Phelps has pics online of him smoking weed. He has since been suspended by USA Swimming and dropped by Kelloggs as an endorser. His contract will not be renewed because they make cereal that they sell to children. “Michael’s most recent behavior is not consistent with the image of Kellogg,” spokeswoman Susanne Norwitz said in a statement. It was war machine’s right to say what he feels but it is also up to the company to protect themselves from things that will damage their reputation and in the long run cost them money.

As for your friend getting a ticket for spitting on the street. Laws such as that exist in most cities to my knowledge. As I said before, your rights are based on you not infringing on mine. This is a decency issue. Spitting is not polite and is frowned upon in certain aspects of society. Baseball players aren’t going to get tickets for spitting on the diamond but at the same time if you spit at the table, your parents will probly smack the shit out of you. Laws like that are trying to maintain a certain decorum in our society. Same goes for the saggy pants thing.

Bottom line, Buy your friend a fucking belt, tell him to stop spitting in public like a fucking scum bag and go find a shitty job where you don’t have to act like a human being you socialist hippy freak. Get the fuck out of America if you have a problem with it.

Crowls = awesome post!

HERE HERE!!

FOR THE WIN!!

I was addressing the freedom of speech debate in that one lil homie.

@ Madnuts

“There’s either a fire or there isn’t, that’s not an opinion.”

LOL

So madnuts, addressing the freedom of speech, you can say whatever you want right? Cuz its freedom of speech right? So you can so a lie, that brings harm to others? Cuz its your freedom to speak it?

Freedom of Speech defends your opinion, not someone lying.
Ah well, you obviously don’t know.

Clearly I do, since I am on the side of the arguement that is saying the lieing is NOT protected haha, do you even read what I say?

You tried to debate freedom of speech by giving an example of telling a lie, and then you say something that contradicts your example.
You should probably no contradict yourself in a debate, it might help.

Kibs said basically he’ll defend your right to say whatever you want. I was argueing against that. Anyway, my main arguement agasint you is up there towards the top but its in moderation or something. It was in reply to your Europeans and freedom comment. Hit it up when it appears.

Heh.

MADNUTS:
I’m gonna try it down here cuz up there ain’t workin.
Anyway if you wanna get all Technical than yes I agree there is no such thing as american’s unless you are talking about “indians” or native americans. I was referring to the many Europeans that left there home countries and banded together and called themselves americans. That is who I was reffering to, you can thank them for this whole freedom trend anyway.
P.S. I like how you just bipassed the other main arguement about Koppenhaver and the company.

Whew’ I’m glad that argument is over I was getting dizzy…