Dana White: Georges St. Pierre the victim of a stupid cornerman at UFC 94

maybe he got hurt carrying rocks underwater…or maybe the Penn camp forgot he was down there and left without him…LoL

hahahaha

lmfao

Exactly my point… without all the derogatory remarks I made about how stupid the guy was

Are you serious?

Hughes is tarnishing his legacy by saying he thought St.Pierre felt a little greasy during there fights?

So from now on in your opinion you feel like when someone asks Hughes a question he should just say no comment. I don’t want to tarnish my legacy in the eyes of some morons on the internet.

Its dumb to point a finger at someone without any proof. Here they have video documentation of a cornerman putting grease on GSP, so they spoke up about their past fights. I completely understand because if GSP really did grease even a little bit then it would make it harder for them to grip him on a takedown or control him on the ground. I think it was an incredibly dumb thing all together to put vaseline on GSP cause it is completely against the rules to put it anywhere so trying to defend this as just a little spec seems ridiculous to me. Although I agree with DW that GSP is an honest and upstanding guy and I don’t think he did this to cheat. I do wish these guys hadn’t said anything because if they prove GSP cheated it’ll hurt MMA very much. I can’t attack them tho cause they feel cheated and I know if I was so near the top and felt cheated like that, I’d sure say something.

GSP an honest and upstanding guy? I kind of doubt it myself. I think GSP plays the I’m innocent and honest card, we saw it with Serra how he was very polite and gracious after his loss but then we saw the real GSP and his many excuses. Going up to Hughes after he defeated Penn and tell him he was not impressed with his performance, I wish Hughes would have been in sat’s fight and tell him that too. Frankly I thought Hughes/Penn was much better than GSP/Penn and by the way Hughes finished Penn. If you see the video he gets greased and he is not saying anything, even when all the conversation about it is going on behind him. What is GSP going to do say he didn’t know when he could have stop his corner guy from doing it again after they got caught in the first round. GSP cheated, he’ll deny it blame his cornerman, but if the NSAC will not do anything about it I think it’s fair for him to get all the heat for it.

GSP had a family death before his fight with Serra, his mind was not really in the right place so I think I can accept his excuses. Anyway look down a few posts to see that I’ve already posted that I think GSP should take credit for a bad decision in not stopping the cornerman from greasing him. The most I hope happens is they consider granting Penn a rematch but after the beatdown Penn took I don’t think he’s going to want it. I really think everyone also is taking this cheating business out of context. Penn gets everyone riled up because he likes to point fingers, he called Sherk a cheater and now he’s doing the same to GSP. I love Penn as a fighter but he’s a very childish person, he’ll train as much as he wants but since he’s the prodigy he knows whats best. He fueds with whoever he’s fighting and he doesn’t really take a loss like a man, not that he losses very often. He took this fight mainly so he could retire on top and pretend he was the undisputed LW and WW champs without ever having defended either title. They should be focusing less on this GSP ordeal and more on how Penn is acting like a child.

I don’t know about Hughes tarnishing his legacy, more like his integrity.

If what he says is true why did he not make it more public till now? So to me by staying quiet he allowed other fighters to fight at a disadvantage if he felt GSP was greasy the 2 times they fought.

Wether they are right or wrong at least Serra and Penn had the balls to speak up at the time they fought GSP and not years later.

Way to go Matt “not my problem” Hughes

Ognitinoc and the rest of you, how about you jump on his case some more. If he had made these accusations at the time everyone would have been down his throat with the fact that he couldn’t accept his loss and couldn’t just face it like a man. He had no proof and thus would have made it seem a lot like he was just blowing steam. None of you even knew about these accusations by Penn or Serra until this second fight with GSP and Penn when they had photographic evidence. Also please understand that most fighters don’t want to make this kind of accusation unless they have proof that the fighter had greased because it could tarnish their reputation whether or not its true. Its not easy to distinguish between grease and sweat during a fight so nobody tries to point a finger, but now that proof has come out other fighters wonder themselves if they too may have been cheated. Try to get up out of your chair for once and look at it from the fighters point of view.

The cornermen should wear the surgical gloves in layers, like 2 or 3 on each hand. If you touch vaseline, do what you have to do then peel off a pair, then go on with the massaging, etc. There will no “contamination” if you will, of any substance placed where it should not be.

I agree DJ, or maybe whoever is the vaseline guy should not be allowed to do anything else. In other words Nurse should have been helping with the breathing and have another guy be the vaseline guy. I bet this will be the case anyway. I bet they’ll be more careful next time and Nurse will only assist with breathing.

thats a good idea

I’m sick of the cheating is cheating remark. It’s crap. Using steroids is cheating. Grabbing the fence is cheating. Poking someone in the eye is cheating. Do they get punished the same? NO! So stop acting like any infraction is the same as any other because it’s just not true. Debating all this is pointless, just let the NSAC make a ruling and leave it at that.

The definition of cheating is breaking the rules. The rule for vasoline is simply, you can’t apply EXCESSIVE amounts to the face or body of a fighter. THAT’S IT, it says NOTHING else on the subject. What is an excessive amount? The little bit left on Nurse’s hand wouldn’t be enough to coat his dick to beat off, let alone coat GSP’s chest, shoulders and back. Come on people, think about it, way more vas got on both fighters from their faces during the fight. The fact that the commission wiped GSP down, made him less slippery than he would have been, because they wiped all his sweat off. The rules have to be more specific and I’m sure they will revamp them so this doesn’t happen again. Don’t expect anything to come of this, because nothing was done against VAUGE rules. I don’t think Nurse should have greased his face and then touched his body, but as far as the rules go, how is a miniscule amount of vas excesive by any definition. Some people say vas doesn’t wip off easily, but there is a glaring problem with that statement,Nurse could have gave his hands a quick wipe on a towel and all would be good right. You can’t have it both ways, either it wipes off or it doesn’t. If it doesn’t then EVERY fighter is greasing. The bottom line is GSP’s excessive sweat would be far more slippery than a little residual vas, so it didn’t impact the fight in the slightest. Any other fighter and this would be forgotten already, but not with BJ “I need an excuse” Penn and his conspiracy theorist fans. Now they are saying,“if he can cheat by greasing he is also using steroids”.

I heard something similar but I heard (and pls correct me if I’m wrong) Melvin was wiping his own brow and cheeks with his gloves then wiping it off on his shoulders

NSAC can definetely overturn this decision but they more than likely won’t. Don’t try to put all the blame on GSP’s corner man either because GSP should know the rules to and as soon as his cornerman was starting to put that stuff on him, GSP should have stopped him.

If GSP really was having problems breathing they could have put a little vaseline under his nose or put a warming pad on his back or chest. If they don’t think this stuff through ahead I have no sympathy for ignorance.

How can you blame GSP…you obviously haven’t been in combative sports, cause in the middle of a fight, I doubt you would know 2+2 let alone whether or not someone does or does not have vaseline on their hands as they are momentarily touching your chest and back.

no doubt

lol

Sorry, I guess they need something more simple…

Mike Tyson is fighting YOU in a fight.

He knocks your a$$ out but using illegal gloves.

Everyone says, he would have beat you anyway, what does it matter.

The commission says, “sorry Tyson, you cheated”.

Is that easier for you guys?! lol

You should have been Conrad Black’s lawyer.

BOOOOOOOO to Kobe, you might have problems with guys that have problems with loud mouthed athletes, but I have problems with Athletes that think they’re gods gift to a sport. BS

RoB, if you score 61 points in a game then your a ballhog! Just like Jordan was, nothing but ballhoggers.

Kobe comes to Toronto tonight – put up 81 against the Raps a couple years ago.

D-Wade was talking about both LeBron and Kobe going to the Knicks in a couple years…….lol

DF, do you think Bosh will stay…imo opinion he should go if they want to keep O’Neil but I also feel picking up O’Neil was a big mistake…on paper they have a good team (minus injuies and new coach) but they just can’t seem to get their shit together….its a bad year for us Southern Ontario sports fans

lol, gotcha