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BJ Penn sends NSAC formal request to investigate Georges St. Pierre at UFC 94

The legal team that represents lightweight champion BJ Penn -- four days removed from a technical knockout loss to welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre at UFC 94 on Jan. 31 -- today sent a formal request (not a complaint) to the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC).

The three-page letter is designed to ensure that the sanctioning body engages "in a comprehensive investigation and review of the activities involving and relating to Georges St. Pierre prior to and during the bout."

St. Pierre's cornermen during the fight applied Vaseline to his back and shoulders, which is illegal under the rules of the sport. Ringside officials noticed the petroleum jelly on the backside of the Canadian and sprung into action, wiping him down with towels after rounds two and three.

"Rush" isn't giving excuses for the incident, saying it was just a minor mistake caused by the between-round frenzy and was part of a breathing technique. UFC President Dana White -- who is taking the issue very seriously -- has since blamed "stupid" cornermen (Greg Jackson and Phil Nurse) for the infraction.

The letter to the NSAC indicates that not only is greasing illegal, but it taints the reputation of the sport and jeopardizes the health and safety of those who participate in it.

Furthermore, it states the application of Vaseline put Penn at a serious disadvantage during the fight because as a Brazilian jiu-jitsu specialist, "The Prodigy" relies on his ability to apply techniques and strategies designed to immobilize or cause potential injury to his opponent.

With that ability neutralized, Penn's attorney contends that his client was put in an environment that was both "life threatening" and "career ending."

Perhaps the most damaging part of this letter is the accusation that a member from Team Penn had asked the NSAC prior to the bout to pay special attention to St. Pierre because of the possibility of Team GSP engaging in activities that would intentionally make him more slippery.

If Team Penn did in fact ask the NSAC to keep a close eye on St. Pierre during the match (who was subsequently found going overboard with Vaseline) then the champ - and his corner - could have a lot to answer for.

More on this breaking news in a bit.

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here we go again…

by McArthur on Feb 4, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah this is ridiculous. Offer BJ another fight. Don’t change the outcome of this one, but give him an immediate opportunity to fight GSP for the WW title again. Lets see if he wants to go through that beating again. What do you want to bet he would turn it down?

by GregC on Feb 4, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

why is it ridiculous? Let me stress, BJ was losing the fight regardless, but that being said, why would you want this not investigated? What if they go to the tapes and notice ALL Greg Jackson fighters getting vaseline on their backs? Wouldn’t that taint the whole camp? Like I said, BJ wasn’t even in the fight, but I for one want to get to the bottom of this! It’s on tape, and don’t give me the “they wiped it off” excuse, they shouldn’t have to wipe anything off of anyone!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Kev….the only way I see these endless conversations ending is through an investigation

by McArthur on Feb 4, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

at the very least, nurse should be reprimanded and maybe banned from ring side, taking Greg Jackson away from his fighters is a bit much, unless it’s proven that this is a regular occurrence! I can’t wait until “the worlds smartest man” Tito Ortiz comes out and says Rashad was too slick during their fight!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

“life threatening” LOL LOL LOL!!! Death by lubrication! wow penn, kill yourself now, for all of our sakes

by brendan on Feb 4, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

it does matter because BJ did not go down in round one. He was winning the first 40 seconds or so of round 2 until he went down. Immediately he pulled high guard and GSP SLIPPED out into side control and gave BJ a beating he never recovered from.

If GSP doesn’t pass the guard they stand back up where BJ was winning on the feet. watch the fight again on mmalinker. we remember an ass kicking because of rounds 3 and 4.

by hatteras on Feb 4, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

They should definitely investigate the situation. Since it is such a controversial subject that is what’s best for the sport. But I think that if they investigated all the fighters they would find that this happens all the time. There is only 1 minute between rounds and the cornermen are scrambling to get their fighters ready for the next round. I don’t think this was an effort to cheat in any way, but given what happened an investigation is warranted.

by GregC on Feb 4, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

for once i agree with kevin

by onthebutton336 on Feb 4, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

did you guys hear GSP on sherdog radio today? He sounds pissed and says he wants to fight BJ again in the summer, “BJ can wear rash guards, and the outcome will be the same.” I hate to say it, but I’d love to see BJ/GSP 3!!!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

watch this video, they are rubbing his shoulders down. then they go to the voodoo breathing, but the rubbing of the shoulders is blatant!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjV5wcH1pQY&eurl=http://www.mmascraps.com/

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i gotta agree with you kevin, i said the same thing when this story happened, bj woulda lost but what about rashad when he fought forrest was he greased up as well? what about cerrone vs varner was cerrone greased up? whether it was an accident or not you dont just rub someone with vasolene then proceed to rub there shoulders not expecting it to get on there.. at the sametime if you aint cheatin you aint tryin, dont really blame them for it happening just getting caught im sure other people do it/have done it and done some other dirty tactics its a fight not a tickling contest

by randy murders on Feb 4, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree kevin it has nothing to do with the fight itself and every thing to do with cheating.

by roy on Feb 4, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

pfft haters are you joking me your a lil bitch bj wasnt ever winning anymore of that fight i dont even think he got in any punches maybe 1 or 2 but thats it it was a total one sided ass whooped and fuck the whole lube shit if make them fight again and see what happens bj would go 0-3 against gsp … gso is the man

by Gigantico on Feb 4, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

lol@ you! what part of “the outcome would be the same” didn’t you get? no one is saying BJ would have won or that this helped GSP win, we’re just asking for an investigation. Same as if a guy tests positive for steroids, I want there to be no qualms about it. It’s called upholding the integrity of the sport!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually Tito did accuse Rashad of having vaseline on his arms after their fight. For some reason I remember this from one of the 73 post fight press conference. I doubt this to be true though as I am a big fan of a lot of the fighters Jackson puts out.

by goatboy on Feb 4, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

This has got to go, its so shity for the sport. That amound of vasaline is nothing compared to Trafers from the face to the arms, belly and back. Think about quilatines, rear-naked chokes and triangles.

Its just a bunch hoopla.

by Ro-J on Feb 4, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ has every right to file a complaint, but like you said offer him a new fight. BJ doesn’t want to get killed again and for once in his life he’ll be silent.

by DSmith on Feb 4, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, also the rules on this are vague and nothing will happen until they are rewritten. Hell all appropriate regulations were followed when the amount of vaseline found was deemed to be excessive(which is a meaningless word here).

by NameNotRequired on Feb 4, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

KEVIN,
good post i agree 100%.

(But Tito won that fight, if he wasn’t so stupid a grabbed the cage again)

by SoCalStunNa on Feb 4, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

No one knows how slippery GSP actually was. If he was really slippery, it could have changed the outcome of the fight…seriously. A jui-jitsu guy can’t do much when he has no frction to work with. Penn may have submitted Georges, or at least maybe he would have been able to keep him from posturing up so much.

Who knows…but it should be looked into

by ja434650 on Feb 4, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll say this, when BJ was going for “mission control” and maybe to an oma plata, GSP slipped out way to easily! I attributed it to GSP’s strength, but are his shoulders really stronger than BJ’s legs? I don’t know, I’m just putting it pout there! BJ is a BJJ specialist who has proven to be able to get out of positions early on in a fight, he was unable to do so sat. I think an investigation is merited, a rematch, not so much!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Great point about the Mission control and Omo plat sequence!

An investigation is warranted!

by john on Feb 4, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Investigate all they want. They will use the one corner man as a scape goat. If you watch fights you will see the corner man always rubbing their fighters shoulders and rubbing vasoline on their face. Penn was used all fight long. He does not want that fight again trust me. If I was GSP I would offer the fight again and tell BJ that his brother DJ can put the vasoline on me and watch him throw the towel in for you from my side this time. Stop trying to turn this into boxing guys, you are hurting the sport!!!! The more controversy we have and whiners like this we have the worse off our sport is.

by GOAT on Feb 4, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a ridiculous arguement. Who’s to say what “slippery” is? When you’re sweating, vaseline or no vaseline, you’re slippery. Hell, you watch every fight and Rogan repeats the same mantra about once you’re sweaty it’s hard to get the submissions. Who’s to say the guy didn’t grease himself up with lotion in the locker room and came out like that? The fight wasn’t even close, and GSP didn’t start passing his guard until late 2nd rd into the 3rd, ala when he was sweaty. He was working him over with stand up prior to that and mixing it up. I can’t imagine that these guys would purposely be rubbing him down with grease in front of millions of people watching.

by slim473 on Feb 4, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Kevin, Fitch, Serra and Hughes have proven to get out of position too, but not so much against GSP. Maybe GSP greased for those fights too, or MAYBE he is just one hell of a lot better than them. BJ has never subbed anyone off his back, so what makes people think his first would be against someone like GSP. No one has ever pasted Fitches gaurd before either, but I don’t hear Fitch whining that the only reason that happened was because GSP cheated. The bottom line is Fitch took his loss like a man and BJ was a little Bitch about his. If it wasn’t the grease, you can bet it would be something else, that’s for sure.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

SLIM473, I do some assistant wrestling coaching and have lotioned up, ya know soft n’ silky skin?… I’ve had some wrestlers comment that I was slippery, now an MMA official nor anyone else would be able to identify exactly what was going on, except maybe an opponent might mention it. This might be going on with some of these "slippery fighters"… in addition it looks like GSP shaves his entire body to eliminate traction.. anyone else have comments on this plausible scenrio?

by DAVE on Feb 4, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I do agree there needs to be an investigation of the “LUBEGATE” incident so it never happens again. I don’t think BJ really wants to fight GSP again, why do I get the feeling there is a civil lawsuit brewing here?

by DAVE on Feb 4, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t think its ridiculous but the fight starts both guys get vasoline on their faces then they punch each other in the face and clinch which would smear the vasoline all over them. i dont think it made much of a difference in the out come, but i also dont think it should have happened.

by jess on Feb 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Good solid point. With the massive amount of vaseline the refs put on prior to stepping in the cage, a couple clinches and it’s everywhere…gloves, back, chest. GSP muscles his whole body on guys and puts his head right into their chest. It’s just BS to take it there.

by slim473 on Feb 4, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t usually feel the need to respond to these posts but this time i feel it is needed. A few points about this whole thing. First off I am a huge BJ fan and i know for a fact that after watching this fight over and over i have come to one solid conclusion… The reason BJ lost is simple, HE RAN OUT OF GAS AGAIN!! When the hell is this guy gonna take training seriously. We know that GSP trained harder for this fight. We all saw it on Primetime. The problem is that BJ Penns’ ego and his cardio are his downfalls. Even after all the “I’m gonna die in there, I’ll never quit.” he quit. Not by his corner throwing in the towel. He quit as soon as GSP took him to the mat. GSP broke my boys will. All BJ did on the ground was try to survive and he didn’t do a good job of that. He got pummeled. Now to the people that think GSP cheated. Do you honestly think that after watching the goings on in between rounds and the NSAC wiping his back so vigorously, that he had enough Vaseline on him to change the outcome of the fight? C’mon guys. BJ got owned plain and simple. GSP was too strong for BJ and that was evident and anyone who thinks that BJ was outstriking GSP is blind. Now that this has come up all of a sudden Serra and Hughes say he greased. Well i haven’t heard Serra say it but according to Hughes he did. Funny how apparently Vaseline is the reason that GSP destroyed all of them Hughes barely even landed a shot in their 3rd fight. He landed 2-3 elbows off his back as soon as GSP took him down and then he tapped out. Vaseline is the reason for this? Bj’s ego apparently won’t allow him to know he got whooped. What a joke this has turned out to be.

Be a man and admit you lost to a better fighter BJ and get back soon. This is coming from one of your biggest fans.

by SpiderStyle on Feb 4, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

spiderstyle you’ve missed the point entirely.

by Nokimono on Feb 4, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent post SpiderStyle, very well put. BJ should be more worried about not quiting on his fans in his prime just because things didn’t go his way. He could easily fight for 5 more years. It’s not like he leaves town to train, so he can still be with his daughter.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Word—Spiderstyle.

It’s hard to admit when your hero doesn’t live up to your (or his)expectations.

People just need to make sense of it, and sometimes they make excuses. I wonder what they’d say if it was the other way around?

by Teep on Feb 4, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

As the spokesperson for Team Penn, j/k, we need to see this through. We don’t want the victory overturned, we just want fairness in a fight. If you cant trust GSP’s riddum what can you trust? Look, if this was a non-issue Dana, the NSAC, and half the fans on this site wouldn’t have said a thing. Even some of GSP’s fans agree. You can’t call yourself a fan of the sport and not want a fair fight. You’re saying that just because it may not have affected the fight outcome that it shouldn’t be looked into. Thats like saying they shouldn’t give you a D.U.I. if you don’t get in an accident or kill someone. (that may or may not make any sense)

by Nokimono on Feb 4, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

it makes sense, but the GSP fans aren’t going to hear it! If it were BJ being accused, I’d want the same action taken, I’m a fan of the sport more than any particular fighter!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Kevin, I really hope this gets resolved quickly. I have no problem with the investigation but I don’t think it should or will change the outcome of the fight. Alot of guys on here are trying to make analogies and most of them suck. I liken it to years past when the patriots beat the rams and other high powered offenses in the playoffs by roughing up the receivers. Nowadays they would get like 75 interference calls a game. The issue went in front of the competition committee and it was decided to start calling those plays much closer. They can’t go back and give those games back to the rams/colts/etc. but from that point on the game has been different. That’s all that should happen here. Suspend the cornermen for a year and develop procedures for between rounds to eliminate the possibility of this in the future. Also I think this looks worse b/c of the Margarito handwrap thing a week before.

by Crowls on Feb 4, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s not true kevin, I’m a GSP fan. I want whatever needs to be done to put this thing to rest already. So, yes investigate and Phil Nurse has been around for 30 years and knows better. He should be reprimanded for sure at the very least. At this point I think an investigation is important for the integrity of the sport, GSP’s victory and all our sanity. I don’t believe GSP is a cheater, I think it was an accident, but no one wants to win and have a cloud hanging over their victory. And since BJ thinks that his performance was hindered by the Vaseline- bring on Penn/GSP III.

by DSmith on Feb 4, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

good post Dsmith, you’re in the minority, most GSP fans just see BJ as a bitch! I was going for BJ, when he lost I immediately gave GSP his props, like I said, I’m a fan of the sport first!
As far as your analogy crowls, the NFL changed the rules, so now and then are two different things. The best analogy I’ve heard is the tainted supplement analogy! Ignorance isn’t an excuse. cheating is cheating, no grey areas!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

From Team GSP……. I say go for it BJ. If you REALLY think you were done wrong, go for it. The truth will set us all free.

by DJ on Feb 4, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

They could grease up BJ from head to toe and GSP would still kick his ass!

by mma_dad on Feb 5, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone heard from a real BJJ expert about this? I wonder what Eddie Bravo (rubber guard master, BJ was trying to use this technique to no avail), Dysdale, Mir, anyone named Gracie, or even Rogan has to say. Seems to me that they could shed some credible light on this subject.

by Nokimono on Feb 4, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason BJ could not keep Rubber Guard on GSP isnt all because he was slippery. It is because GSP postured up. Ask any BJJ expert on how to get out of a rubber guard, or even how to break a triangle and they will tell you that the first thing you do is posture up. If anyone here wants to question my BJJ credibility I would be more than happy to share it with him/her.

by Matt25 on Feb 4, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

great post Matt25. Sometimes strength beats technique. Lesnar/Couture, Kongo/CroCop, GSP/Penn

by SpiderStyle on Feb 4, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey mania: your bias is showing…

by Bad batz on Feb 4, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re not kidding.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

As we all saw, Penn was losing either way, not that I am saying the act was ok or should be dismissed, but come on, what a spoiled brat. However, on the flip side, they should fire the brainless and take it back to the ring. As a fan, I wouldn’t mind seeing them fight and watching Penn get beat again!

by Rose on Feb 4, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP already said he would fight him again. Somehow I don’t think BJ would be so keen.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I am an objective observer and from everything i heard i was expecting Penn to have been throttled. I just saw the fight an have to admit….ALthough GSP did beat on Penn for rounds 3 and 4, round 2 was the turning point. When Penn was taken down he could not hold a high guard. His legs kept slipping down. as a result he was no threat and GSP layed some brutal GnP. After that Penn was never the same. I guess he was broken, mentally. That being the case, I am a bit disturbed by the situation and a little let down. I actually am hoping for another match but doubt it would happen. Let GSP face Tiago and SIlva and BJ face KenFlo, then maybe we can get back down to the matter at hand. Just my 2 cents

by Vixazia on Feb 5, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew they would come up with a childish excuse for this obvious loss. People like BJ PENN are a disgrace for this sport. I never liked his attitude and I have absolutly no respect for him. SAHME ON YOU BJ!

by Andy on Feb 5, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If this pans out to be true,George Rush should have his win taken from him.If it is illegal.From what ive read it is illegal and, does give an advantage to gsp.He tottally should have this win taken from him. HE CHEATED PERIOD

by joe a on Feb 10, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Is all this talk about this problem bad for MMA making it look cheap or good b/c they are trying to “Crack Down” on rule breakers?

by Freddy on Feb 4, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

GSP’s record vs BJ soon to be 1-0-1?

by Kibs on Feb 4, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, let me clarify, did GSP beat Penn regardless? Yes. He did. But that doesnt change the fact that if Greg Jackson/Phil Nurse wiped vasoline on his back, they could reverse the decision

by Kibs on Feb 4, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

not going to happen

by McArthur on Feb 4, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

they dont want it reversed they just want to make sure he gets watched more in future fights…

by randy murders on Feb 4, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ve already said that it won’t reverse anything, but it can cause both cornermen to “no longer be allowed” to corner for another fighter. I was at the fight (and cheering for B.J), the disadvantage comes in that he was spending ALOT of energy trying to get the rubber guard.

GSP dominated him, and I personally don’t think that the outcome would’ve have been different…but maybe adding some sticky situations for GSP. It should still be considered a loss for BJ, but it does make the sport look crooked (aka: Petruzzeli and Kimbo)

by Derick (the other one) on Feb 4, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Even before this NCAC formal request all corner men in MMA will not touch their fighters back! THis is BS on BJ`s side to even allow this request to go in. I thought BJ was one of the toughest fighters on the planet, now I think he`s a pineapple f%king cry baby!!All he`s doing is tarnishing GSP`s status, and GSP`s corner men`s reputation. BJ I want you to think hard about this when you go to sleep tonight…take 30 or 40 minutes and go F?k yourself!!

by Beaver on Feb 4, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

if they reversed the decision, would everyone betting on Penn be reimbursed?? lol

by Crazy Canuck on Feb 4, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats a very good point. I would say yes. It would be a NC, and thus invalidate the bet.

by jd on Feb 4, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I figured, i wonder how long this will take to evolve into a final decision……

by Crazy Canuck on Feb 4, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ penn is gay

by Don on Feb 4, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

This is all nonsense. I pray to God they give Penn a rematch. Just so I could relive Saturday. This grease buizz doesn’t change a thing. GSP beat Penn down. I have a feeling they will strip GSP of his title.

by Mr. Marte on Feb 4, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

haha…who would strip him of his title???

by McArthur on Feb 4, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got a feeling you are wrong. Something may happen with Nurse/Jackson, but GSP’s belt is staying around his waist.

by GregC on Feb 4, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya GSP is gonna get stripped and banned from the UFC for sure and Penn will be given the belt.

by GSP4Prez on Feb 4, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, that seems like the most logical outcome.

by jd on Feb 4, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on BJ, first you throwing in the towel and now this?? I’m a Penn fan but your killin me here smalls, your killin me..

by O damn he got caught on Feb 4, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

I feel they have every right to do this so it can serve as a deterrent to other fighters who think about greasing before or during the fight.

But I’m not sure the end result will be any different (i.e. changing the result of the fight). BJ needs to get back down to 155 and have a few more fights. I hope he doesn’t retire after this.

Greg Jackson trains some very good MMA fighters. Maybe he will serve a ban but I’m not sure he will be banned forever by the NSAC. Especially, considering he has 2 champions under him.

by Nick on Feb 4, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont see him getting banned, just a warning at most..

it might not have effected the outcome of this fight but it could future fights and with others in that camp, i see this as a need to do thing to put out awareness on the jackson camp not just gsp

by randy murders on Feb 4, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Well it should serve as a warning on all fighters. Its a shame for GSP because I feel he still would have won big.

by Nick on Feb 4, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe GSP would have one too. This is not about this one match. This is about the sport. Everyone is trying to legitimize the sport. Then they come on here and say nothing was wrong. I even heard someone say it is no different than an accidental eye poke. Wrong and accendental eye poke is something that takes place between two fighters n the heat of battle. Not between rounds and before fights. This is about the sport as a whole. It is not about if I am a GSP fan.( which I am). Jackson should be fined. I heard it on another web page fine everyone 10% and suspend them three months. Then it wont effect GSP’s next fight. You have to do something. There must be a standard set saying it wont be tolerated.If it happens some other time with someone else and it does effect the outcome then what are you gonna say. Well if you dont do something now, you wont be able to do something then.

by Lance on Feb 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone even thinking here? The commission NOTICED an infraction and they rectified (wiped off and CONSIDERED it GOOD)it. Now do you actually think they are going to say,“yeah there was something done wrong and we were RIGHT THERE, but we were to INCOMPETENT to fix it and ASSURE that it was a fair fight”. " We are sorry we didn’t do our JOB that night". " Next time we will hault the fight and bring in a forensic team and scrape GSP’s back and send it to the lab for analisis, to determin the exact amount of Vasoline". " We thought a good wiping was sufficient, but we neglected to take into consideration that this is BJ whiner Penn (and his fans). “Honest, it didn’t feel slippery at all after we wiped it off, that’s why we let the fight go on as usuall”. " We would have got out the degreaser if we thought so many BJ fans would raise such a stink and try to tarnish GSP’s win, after all we did give GSP the GREEN light to continue fighting, yet many still call him a cheater". "We are the ones who make and INFORCE the rules, so please let us decide who is cheating and who isn’t.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a bit much. I’m no expert, but I didn’t see any advantage in the fight caused by this. Oh well…Here’s to another 120 plus posts.

by Shadyone33 on Feb 4, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

you on drugs of course it does bjj man on his back trying to sub or keep gaurd ?

by chris on Feb 4, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

are you on drugs, GSP popped right out of his regular guard to get side control like 20 times, not his rubber guard…unless Phil Nurse applied some to GSP’s waist.

by MM_Eh on Feb 4, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks…I wasn’t really going to respond, glad to see some people saw what I was getting at. Also…I thought BJ was going to knock him out?!?!?

by Shadyone33 on Feb 5, 2009 7:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone thinking this caused a big problem for bj is crazy, if you wathc the video you see phil nurse touching gsp on the shoulders, which has no effect on pulling gaurd , and in the center of his chest and center of his back. Not once did he rub his hand all over his back which in my opinon if you were trying to get greased up for an advantage you would do. when you pull gaurd , most of your leg would be touching your opponents lats, not the center of his back , tahts where the heel of your foot would be. Its funny to me to that bj’s camp is saying that they wanted to work from the guard, that wasn’t there intent in the first fight and from all the hype it sounded to me like they thought they had the advatage in striking and were hoping to score a knock out,hard to do that from gaurd.
All this is, is bj has alot of pride and is looking for anything he can to justify why he got beat down so bad. Im a penn and gsp fan and all i wanted was a great fight and even i was a bit shocked at how bj looked tired after round 1 and got beat down so easy

by mike on Feb 4, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

b.j.- for the sake of your legacy/dignity, LET IT GO LITTLE FELLA. the beat down and towel throw in will be hard enough to live down, now this bitch move,why don’t you have another fight in say….. a year when all your beat downitis has healed. im pretty sure we will have a new fight , same result. MAN UP BITCH!!!1

by daz on Feb 4, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my God enough with this crap already!!!! Suck it up BJ, you lost, who cares… Enough with the excuses, Grease on Georges chest would also affect his ability to keep such a strong base on top of BJ.. but regardless, this situation is a joke,, suck it up, its over,, lets move on

by scottythebody on Feb 4, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

pffffft. BJ: build a bridge and get over it.

by AmishPhysicist on Feb 4, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

Can we please end this??? GSP – Please challenge Penn to another fight. If he accepts (which I doubt he will as he won’t yet be healed up), prior to the fight make sure the NSAC watches you shower (and you know Keith Kizer will), dry off completely, then go in the ring sans cornermen and beat the piss out of BJ again. Then BJ and his bitchy little camp and everyone else who thinks you won by a fluke can finally put this to rest.
Then do the same before your fight with Alves and beat the piss out of him too.

by Dugout on Feb 4, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

I like your thinking…LMFAO.

by Couchchamp on Feb 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It makes sense. When GSP knows he can be outworked in the BJJ game he has to try and sneak in an advantage. Obviously BJ and Serra could out grapple him on the ground and he needed reassurance that he would have the upperhand by cheating with jelly.

by xxBAxx816 on Feb 4, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

GSP snuck his advantage with all the time he spent training in the gym. And as far as him getting out grappled by BJ and Serra, when is the last time either of them submitted someone off their back (the only place they’ll be against GSP)? It’s only been like . . . 7 years since Serra caught Kelly Dullanty in a triangle, and BJ has never submitted someone off his back.

by GregC on Feb 4, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I’m just going to delete all of my MMA feeds for the next couple of months. This is too much like politics and I used to use MMA as an escape from crap like that.

Take it easy boys…

by RogueSpear on Feb 4, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

nice 2 know ya, bye, hasta luego, adios…

by Nokimono on Feb 4, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to be a fan. now I got to say fuck bj penn! lil bitch!

by TRIKZ on Feb 4, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

The first time bj was on his back it looked like he was going for mission control, and gsp just slid out of it…I know he is strong but I have never seen somone get out of the rubberguard soo easily. BJ’s only chance was a sub in the first or second round so this might have had an impact. Beyond that he wasnt stoping gsp, he is just to big and strong for him, not to mention highly skilled….

by jb on Feb 4, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

How could GSP be greased in the first round jb…they are checked before they get in the cage…nice try though.

by MM_Eh on Feb 4, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe the ringside officials didnt notice it before rnd 1 – they said they noticed it in the 2nd round

“Ringside officials noticed the generous helping of petroleum jelly on the backside of the Canadian and sprung into action, wiping him down with towels after rounds two and three.”

by jerrolds on Feb 4, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

ding ding ding – i noticed that too – i was like WTF? the second BJ hit the ground he had GSP deep, i thought he was going to lock that shoulder in for sure

by jerrolds on Feb 4, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It was at best a weak attempt at a gogplata. If you think he had the omaplata then think again.For the omaplata to be successful Penn would’ve needed to get to the side of Georges while still securing the shoulder. How many guys get out from under Georges when he has top control??

by Couchchamp on Feb 4, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The fight I watched the first time Goerge takes BJ down he really doesn’t do any damage until he stands up and comes down with 2 huge bombs after that BJ was done. He didn’t even no where he was until the end of the 2nd round. BJ was gassed by the middle of the 2nd round and GSP being as strong as he is passed him with ease after that. Not the tiny amount of vasoline that could have been on one spot on his back.

Do you guys also think that when Hughes said GSP felt a little greasy in fights 2 and 3, he used the word greasy instead of strong. He sure looked like he had a good grip on GSP when his head was getting rammed into the mat for like 20 seconds in the first round of the 3rd fight.

As for serra saying GSP felt a little greasy as well, when was that Matt when you were in the turtle position getting your body destroyed with knee after knee.

by JSP on Feb 4, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Jackson and hurse still were cheating. It wouldn’t have changed the outcome but something should be done to make sure this bs doesn’t happen anymore.

by onthebutton336 on Feb 4, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

The only role Vaseline played was the container BJ kept at his bedside for when he fantasizes about himself. The guy’s pride got a beat down and now he answers with his typical excuses. Let’s see a rematch soon. They can cover GSP in grip tape and the result won’t be any different.

by Mak on Feb 4, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

BJ is the biggest sore loser in the sport. there’s always an excuse.

by Matt on Feb 4, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

Hey – any small advantage may have turned the outcome of the fight, you never know. Athletes take steroids to have an edge in training, does it influence the income of the fight? Maybe.

So GSP did not know that nurse was rubbing extra vaseline on his back – thats akin to not knowing that steroids was in his over the counter protein supplements – nurse should be aware of what he’s doing, he’s a professional.

I think BJ made a tactical error in not wearing knee guards into the fight for added grip…i dont think they are illegal – i recall Tim Silvia wearing them on multiple occassions.

If vaseline was deemed placed on his back – wiped down or not – it is illegal and this may be ruled an NC, imo.

In any case – i severely doubt that BJ will take up a 3rd match against GSP :P

thats my 2cents

by jerrolds on Feb 4, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Great post…especially the comparison to the steroid tests with supplements. ignorance is NEVER an excuse!!!

by kevin on Feb 4, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

F*** bj penn. lil bitch!

by TRIKZ on Feb 4, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Waitwaitwait…“…generous helping of petroleum jelly…”?? Where are you getting this from, Mania? I’ve not seen that in any video of the fight nor on any declaration by anybody that would actually know what’s going on…so…are we gonna add adjectives to reports just because they make things sound worse/better/whatever? Or what is the deal?

by Vox on Feb 4, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Totally agree Vox, im starting to think that Mania might be just a little Bias toward certain fighters.

by Matt25 on Feb 4, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s definitly a little sore about BJ’s lose.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

loss not lose.

by Gord on Feb 6, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

If NSAC does rule in favor of Penn and declares that GSP and his corner cheated. Can the result of the fight be reserved to a no contest or whatever?

by EpicWarrior on Feb 4, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

No NSAC already put that idea to bed.

by baby_eddie on Feb 4, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

What a sore loser. He got beat down and dominated and now he’s looking for an excuse.

by Belisarius on Feb 4, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

REMATCH! REMATCH! REMATCH! I am a fan of both BJ and GSP. Between the two I like GSP more. However, I think settle this right away. Do what we would do as kids, call a do over and have them fight in 2 months. GO GO GO!

Also, did anyone see Dana’s video blog from 1-31-9? When GSP walks through the tunnel and one of his handlers says, “How about a clap?” What a lame deal that was, no one is clapping because they were all pissed about your stupid use of vaseline.

Finally, McNicols if you are looking at this while you are at the office…W’Sup.

by JoJo on Feb 4, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Penn and his camp is so lame for doing this.

by bostonmmajunkie on Feb 4, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

So true but I guess the most of us knew it was coming…

by JonnyBoy on Feb 4, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Just quit BJ, like you did after round four.

by Scott on Feb 4, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Too bad he didn’t continue, I loved when he got slughtered in there!

by JonnyBoy on Feb 4, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This fight has allowed us all to see BJ’s true colors…..now everyone knows he’s the overhyped, overrated, silver-spooned, spoiled-brat punk that i’ve always known him to be. This complaint is exactly what i would expect from BJ and his camp. I would love nothing more than to see GSP beat his ass some more, but trust me, Penn will come up with a reason for that fight not to happen. This guy is such a hoax, I can’t believe how many fans he’s fooled. Now we all know…He’s a better than average BJJ guy that is extremely flexible, but is also extremely average in all other aspects of mixed martial arts….and he has the 13-5 record to prove it.

by kg on Feb 4, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Boom.

by bostonmmajunkie on Feb 4, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Now we know why GSP is the best wrestler in MMA with
no wrestling background. Can’t trust the French.

by matt on Feb 4, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

he’s canadian

by wingblade on Feb 4, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, a little lube is all it takes to make one great. Now that his secret is out, we will be seeing nothing but great wrestlers.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL @ Dana Blames the "stupid" cornermen (Greg Jackson and Phil Nurse) for the infraction.

BJ is right to press this issue, im pretty sure this greasing was intentional.

by ktown on Feb 4, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

If the greasing was intentional do you really think that they would be doing it on LIVE PPV where everyone can see it???

by stevo on Feb 4, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

thats exactly what they did

by ktown on Feb 4, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The bastards have been masking it by saying it’s a breathing technique.. you’ve got them by the balls now BJ!! This nipple tweaking business also needs more looking into; there’s something fishy going on there and I’m DEMANDING a FULL investigation RIGHT NOW!

by O damn he got caught on Feb 4, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to see GSP tell the NSAC, that Nurse-Jackson were actually doing witch craft between rounds and not intentionally rubbing vaseline on him.

by ktown on Feb 4, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yawn. The days of my being a Penn fan are over.

by Nigel Tufnel on Feb 4, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

How is he lame? yea he got a beating but has an1 ever made bjs guard look as bad as it was the other nite? every1 nos that he has 1 of the best guards in the game so in reality the use of the vaseline took away one of bjs major plus factors what if bj hada done something to nulify GSP? PLAIN AND SIMPLE ITS CHEATING!!!!! if he hadnt of dun it he still wuda won and nun of this crap would of followed so he deserves to be stripped of the lot but i hope they dont do it until thiago pans the face of him!!!!!

by DGAME_1_ on Feb 4, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

seriously. bj penn should do the world and himself a favour and commit suicide.

by holyintellect on Feb 4, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

holyintellect? You should change your name to pieceofshit.

Telling someone to commit suicide? Your a winner I can already tell.

by enzo-enormous on Feb 4, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what ancient chinese samurai warriors did in the wake of defeat… perhaps penn knows about this and you should shut you mouth… penn should commit suicide so he doesnt have to waste another minute of his life

by holyintellect on Feb 4, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI- Holy Intellect – Samurai were Japanese not Chinese.

by JoJo on Feb 5, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I love how GSP was the one caught CHEATING and almost everyone starts flaming Penn for pointing it out.

by sbud on Feb 4, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

Guys, I do no-gi bjj and I have to say again that this is ridiculous. It is a well known fact that as the rounds get deeper, slipperiness from sweat makes maintaining position and submissions much more difficult. That’s why more traditional bjj practitioners choose gi. No-gi, however, sliperiness in later rounds is always a factor with or without vaseline. That’s why high level no-gi bjj requires you to learn proper grips and holds. In gi bjj, you can just grab onto any part of the gi and initiate a submission. Now BJ is saying that as a blackbelt with red stripe and mma veteran that he somehow was not ready for GSP’s EXTRA slipperiness? Give me a break. This statement is highly doubtful. Even though there was vaseline on GSP’s shoulders, nobody can prove that it was a factor. This is just inuendo and speculation on Penn and his camp. Speaking of which, BJ’s rubber guard looked super weak due to his fatigue that I don’t doubt GSP could posture without the vaseline. Also, GSP was opening up BJ’s guard my mixing up strikes and not giving BJ time to set up his high rubber.

by bostonmmajunkie on Feb 4, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

THANK YOU!!! Joe Rogan and Eddie Bravo will always tell you that sinking in submissions from your guard in the later rounds is very hard to impossible, and i guarantee you GSP was sweating alot going into the 3rd and 4th rounds, not to mention B.J. was breathing heavier than a fat chick who just spent two hours at a buffet. The guy was dead weight by the 3rd round so of course GSP passed his guard effortlessly. Just face it, B.J. got flat WORKED

by Dave on Feb 4, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I lost the little respect left I had for BJ Penn. Seriously man it had nothing to do with vaseline. I thought by now he would be used to rolling around with men covered in the lubricant. If anything he had an advantage.

by elstiko on Feb 4, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

the bad thing for GSP is that other past fighters are coming out and saying he felt a little bit greased. Matt Huggy bear Hughes, and Frank Trigg. but if he was greasing in all these fights and has been cheating for this long… why has no one seen it before now? and what exactly is the Reffery(sp) doing at the side of the ring before a fight?? isnt he supposed to check the fighters for excess vaseline and other stuff?? if GSP was in fact cheating then a whole lot more evidence will come out on it from past fights and we can all get the real story… and if he wasnt cheating (which i hope so cuz he’s one of my favorites) then it was probly an honest mistake from Nurse/Jackson or whomever

if you’re sick of hearing about this subject then why are you commenting on it or reading the article. take a week break from MMA and the story will play itself out. i for one find it interesting even though its pretty annoying of BJ

by wingblade on Feb 4, 2009 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

I lost all respect for penn, most of it pre fight, then the rest post fight when he quit. and yes people

PENNN QUIT AT THE END OF THE 4TH

where was he protesting to go on? when klitscho fought lewis and had the nasty cut udner his eye, when the doctor called the fight, klitscho went insane saying he wanted to go on.

Penn did nothing.

I know the topic is vaseline but regardless i just dont care anymore cause penn is a piece of sht

by holyintellect on Feb 4, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

Perhaps the most damaging part of this letter is the accusation that a member from Team Penn had asked the NSAC prior to the bout to pay special attention to St. Pierre because of the possibility of Team GSP engaging in activities that would intentionally make him more slippery.

Not sure how this helps Penn’s argument. Seems to me that it would help GSP’s since they had someone watching like a hawk. If the NSAC let him out there in rds 2 and 3 (and the rest), then he clearly didnt have any grease issues.

by sickshotbri on Feb 4, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

was that coconut milk i saw coming out of penns head during the fight?

by holyintellect on Feb 4, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Penn, retire, or hang yourself! Please do one of the two!

by Vince McMahon on Feb 4, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

the only thing life threatening was Penn getting in the octagon with GSP in the first place. I guess he just refuses to believe his stumpy little guard would one day be passed.

by Foamdome on Feb 4, 2009 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

He thinks GSP was greased…I say Dana and the UFC should say as soon as you are fit to fight, that GSP and Penn are going in the cage again. I bet he won’t talk any shit this time…Careful what you wish for Penn…you might get it.

by Couchchamp on Feb 4, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

So does Hughes, so does Serra, so did Kenlo about Huerta, so did Tito about Rashad, all are team Jackson camp members . . . And ive hear as well that the NSAC was looking for it already with Jacksons camp and it didnt take JD Penn to let them know, im sure if all the fighters that say they said something before got them to start looking at the least. I wouldnt be shocked now if Kos said something also, since it was the first fight with the Jackson camp for GSP and thats when he “out wrestled” Kos to become one of the sports best wrestlers without being a wrestler, since then i dont think he has been taken down and besides in the Penn fight (In Round 1, when we know NO Vas was present cause GSP hadnt seen his corner yet) i dont think anyone has defended his takedowns . . . And if Penn decided to fight sick (his fault i know) but if so, then this Vas thing could have given GSP even more of an advantage then he or Jackson thought it would, BJ would ware down faster then thought and BJJ would be his only option, now nullified. Plus the short pulling, plus the strikes to the back of the head, several times in several rounds with several warnings, plus sick, Rematch him if you arent a puss BJ and you think you could have won otherwise, or shut the f*ck up, demand a remtch or stop crying!!! Kenflo is waiting and so are his fans and yours. WAR PENN.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 4, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

AdamG:

I found out from Dayton Morinaga(he’s a staff writer at The Honolulu Advertiser) that BJ Penn was not sick. I think it was JD who made the clarification.

by pUniSHment on Feb 4, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

well then thats that huh, no Vas BS is gonna take away what GSP did to me now, Kenflo here we come . . . I hope. WAR PENN.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 4, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

adam g whats up with the cowardly post you left me?

by roy on Feb 4, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this roy fish? If not then it wasnt for you. If so, then ill show you it wasnt cowardly . . . Let me know.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 4, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And if you say you are Roy fish, then describe his car to me . . . or at least the one he drives since he doesnt own one himself. Just to prove it or disprove it so i dont really spend time on this if i dont have to dude, i doubt your him, i just saw you yesterday and you didnt even look at me. If you ar thenf*uck, have a nice night.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 5, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

why don’t you talk to him if you see him than instead of posting your nonsense on the interenet.

by roy on Feb 5, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

because he is dating my sons mother and in front of my son and her isnt really the place, then i drive 200 miles away back to my place so i dont see Roy again til i drop off my son which is the same situation. I thought for once i had caught him away from that situation and could say what i really wanted, when you said california i was stoked for a chance to say something if it was him. But i also felt bad cause if it was him and he was a BJ Penn fan i would still have to kick his *ss anyway but i wouldnt want to half as much. Hes a tool end o story. Sorry dude.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 5, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

right on adam, i get it i always liked your post and just didn’t know why you where coming at me like that enough said if i ever run into a roy fish i will tell him he is a tool(as long as theres no kids around).

by roy on Feb 5, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we should label GSP the best pound for pound fighter of the world with an * sign right next to his name, right next to barry bonds’ name in the history books

by the truth on Feb 4, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Why is no one pointing out the indisputable fact that when grease is applied to someone’s face in MMA it will naturally spread to other parts of their bodies as they are wrestling. Or, when the opposing fighter’s glove hits a greased face and then touches another part of the body – isn’t grease going to go all over the place? Penn is a sore loser.

by Muscle Dolphin on Feb 4, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

Someone should point out the fact to you that its illegl, regardless of where the Vas ends up during the fight, it has to get to where it gets becauseof the fight, and tell mehow Vas end up all over the back, shoulders i can see for sure, but the back, right where BJs feet go . . .

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 4, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s a post from BJPENN.com. For all of you ignorant Penn haters out there, please read! It clearly states that GSP was the better fighter on Saturday and that they are not trying to take anything from him. Ive been visitng this site for at least 2 years and up until recently enjoyed reading the post on here. You idiots saying that they should drop this and BJ should off himself should do us the favor and eat a bullet for dinner! I am a huge fan of the sport and think that all claims against its legitimacy should be handled as quickly and with as much attention as possible. This is bad for the sport, not just the camp that is being investigated. With that being said, lets open the flood gates of immature and unintelligent comments!

POST FROM BJPENN.COM BELOW…
It has been a little over 24 hours since last nights UFC 94 and Team Penn just landed back in Hawaii. In between my travels back home I was soaking up everything everyone has been saying online and in the media. Literally digging for hours on the UG, the SB nation, here on BJPENN.COM, and the rest of the internets MMA community.

As I promised in my last blog , I have some insider information to share with you all in hopes to answer some of the lingering question on every ones mind. There were a few things that JD wanted me to pass on to you guys on behalf of the Team.

First off, everyone should know BJ is doing just fine. “A few bumps and bruises, but nothing major” said JD Penn. More then the physical, “it’s his heart and spirit that are hurt.” he told me.

Secondly, in light of the recent “GSP VASELINE” controversy floating around JD has issued the following statement.

“We will be filing a formal complaint on Monday against the NSAC and GSP’s cornerman.” “We are not trying to make excuses, GSP was the better fighter that night, and we just wish his cornerman didn’t cheat by rubbing Vaseline on his back.” “Everyone is putting a lot of time and money in too making this sport legit, for someone to do this only hurts the credibility of the sport.”

So there you have it guys, no excuses coming out of BJ’s camp. George did a great job last night. No one is trying to take that away from him. There are more underlying issues here in regards to the overall protocol displayed when dealing with rule violations of this nature and that is the issue JD and the rest of Team Penn hope to get resolved for the betterment of the sport.

You can all expect to hear from BJ soon. For now that’s all I have for you!

by Fred on Feb 4, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

Kenny Florian said that Huerta had something on his back after their fight too. and that was the fight that he had greg jackson in his corner.

i don’t buy matt hughes saying he felt greased. i think hughes is a sleeze ball but serra holds some merit.

but keep in mind all of these guys lost to gsp and didn’t do anything about it

by Katch22 on Feb 4, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

sorry i just say this…

life threatening" and "career ending. <—-are you kidding me?

not training like a normal person and going into a bout under weight is life threatening and career ending.

by Katch22 on Feb 4, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

BJ has EVERY right to press this issue.

In round 2 when GSP took him down BJ surely looked like he was going to get the shoulder and GSP just slipped out a little too easy.

Again, the jelly wouldn’t have changed the fight, but he has every right to bring it up.

All of you idiots who are saying “Penn you’re a bitch! Penn retire” shut up. You guys would have done the same if you were in that position.

by Not the Face on Feb 4, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

it seems to me, BJ always has an excuse for this losses. Whether it was he, didnt train hard enough, or his cardio wasnt good or some bullshit like that. Know that he let the world now that he trains like a champion he cant use that excuse anymore. So what is it this time, o he must of cheated. That right the great BJ Penn cant lose. he is god remember. BULLSHIT, he just cant face the fact the he got his ass kick buy someone a lot better them him. i cant wait to see him loose his next fight so he can blame it on the ref or for someone looking at him funny in the audience.

by JMas on Feb 4, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

ummm i cant seem to remember anything about loosing to matt hughes, or lyoto machida, or the first time against gsp. i thought he won that one also.

by jessdogg on Feb 4, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

well maybe you should think a lil harder

because these are the excuses i remember

lyoto machida- BJ was way out of his weight class (which i will agree)
matt hughes2- he’s was out parting all night (true but sounds like and excuse to me)
GSP1 – his cardio was bad (that another excuse)
Jens Pulver1 – he didnt have a good training camp

u see when u fight at that level of competition there should no excuse not to be at the top of your game. all the things like his cardio and goin out parting before a fight is his fault and has no one to blame but himself and should try to use those thing to try to taint the victory. You loose u loose thats it. lack of preparation is his own fault and shouldn’t be used as a excuse. the reason why he is say GSP is a cheater is because like i said before, the whole world new he was prepared for this fight so with that excuse no long in the pitcher he had to find another way to taint the victory but what it all came down to is BJ just got his ass kicked and all u BJ face will just have to deal with that

by JMas on Feb 4, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you joking? LMAO. He blamed his loss on his ribs against Hughes and he blamed his loss on the judges against GSP. BJ ALWAYS has an excuse when he loses and so does most of his fans. What GSP said was true, how BJ doesn’t look at himself for reasons why he lost,rather he blames someone else, “he cheated” or “bad judging”.

by Gord on Feb 6, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

bj needs to shut his mouth and swallow the fact that he got his ass handed to him. it wasnt a GENEROUS heap on his back, kizer from nsac said that it was a small amount that was wiped off right away. bj needs to die, worthless piece of shit

by ben on Feb 4, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. you really have not got much of a life do you. what is really wrong. There is more going on with you than this situation. sounds like you need a hug

by Lance on Feb 4, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If the NSAC was warned of this before, why didn’t they do their f’ing jobs? Why would they have to be warned in the first place? I thought refs, etc were already supposed to be watching for these kind of things. Why aren’t they doing their job?? I think this is the most important issue that needs to be addressed. Jesus….

by justagirl on Feb 4, 2009 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

Seems to me the did thier f ing jobs. When someone is warned about something they just dont go to the person a say we are watching to see if you do this so dont do it. The watch without telling to see if they do it. They did and they caught them. Then they put a stop to it. This issue was brought up before and during the fight.

by Lance on Feb 4, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe stricter regulations need to be put in place. Maybe they should have immediately deducted a point from Pierre. I don’t know, the system seems flawed. Even though I’m not a fan of Penn, I can see why this would be a valid complaint. But I always assumed something like this was indeed checked for with more scrutiny. It’s a bad situation for everyone involved. I hope it gets resolved.

by justagirl on Feb 4, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

They did do their job, they checked GSP and determined that he was good to go. The guy FELT his back, apparently it DIDN’T feel greasy so they DID their job and let a FAIR fight continue. Well it really was never a “fair” fight,LOL.

by Gord on Feb 6, 2009 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

GSP does the VOODOO trick to himself during the introduction.
********************GSP has filed a Complaint*************** and NSAC is reviewing video to validate whether or not BJ PENN had sand in his vagina during the bout. This sand is believed to give him extra friction during the mounts.

by TapedUpPair on Feb 4, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

Penn just proved to me that the “B” in his name stands for “Bitch.” I’ve lost all respect for the guy.

by Toelock on Feb 4, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

You must only care about blood and guts and fighting. If you cared about the sport as a whole then you would want the issue looked into. It was brought up before and during the fight. They got caught. I am a GSP fan

by Lance on Feb 4, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

First off…to MMAmania and whoever wrote the article, you have no right to state there was a “generous helping” of vaseline. It says no where in any of the reports I have read from those involved that there was a generous helping, even Keith Kizer says there was a very small amount if any vaseline on gsp. I’m going to take his word over yours anyday. So please stop this bad reporting, all the hype and inaccurate information is hurting the sport more than the actual occurence. As a huge GSP fan I believe that it should be investigated and the cornermen reprimanded or punished and maybe part of GSP’s purse, but do not smear GSP’s name or his camp without using accurate information. Justice can only be done with the truth.

by Jimes on Feb 4, 2009 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

“Generous helping” was perhaps inaccurate and since removed from the story.

by MMAmania on Feb 4, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i never knew vaseline could be so dangerous!! lmao, BJ is so pathetic.

by Mc on Feb 4, 2009 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

ask any jujitsu practitioner if an oily body(shit sweat alone makes it tough enough sometimes)is an advantage.

by jessdogg on Feb 4, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

just enjoyed watching this bout again. If anything, more vas is on GSP’s shoulders from BJ’s face. BJ wipes GSP’s face a number of times and grabs his back. Vas is a terrible thing but in the big picture it is a side issue. Punish nurse and jackson and leave GSP alone. This fight was a total domination 40 – 34 on my card.

by TapedUpPair on Feb 4, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

To MMamania.com and whomever wrote this article. You have absolutely no right to say there was a “generous helping” of vaseline to gsp’s shoulder and back. It is this type of reporting which is hurting the situation and mma. How can you state something that isn’t fact? No one knows exactly how much vaseline may have gotten on GSP’s back while he was going through the breathing exercise, but Keith Kizer himself has said,

“Kizer, sitting at the commission table cageside, entered the cage after the second round after he saw a cornerman put Vaseline on the Canadian’s face and then touch his back in a ‘’weird breathing thing for Mr. St. Pierre.’’

Kizer then asked the GSP corner to wipe down the fighter.

‘’It wasn’t like it was an excessive amount of Vaseline but it did appear that there was still some Vaseline on him.’’ (tsn.ca)

So please do not pull this bullshit just because you are either a bj penn fan or some over zealous internet blogger who failed grade 10 english. Do you know what ethics in journalism is? I don’t think you do. I am one of the biggest GSP fans out there but I do think there should be an investigation and his cornermen punished. However, only accurate information will help bring light to the issue. I do not think they cheated and I have watched the fight and specifically between the rounds over and over again and nurse does not have a lot of vaseline on his hands and he only barely touches the center of GSP’s back. That being said, he should still be disciplined because it should not have happened at all. But please mmamania staff and other internet sites, report the truth, not what you think.

by Jimes on Feb 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

BJ penns camp actually revealed today that through blood testing after the fight his sodium count was through the roof after having GSP’s salty scrotum in his motuh the entire fight.

by holyintellect on Feb 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

LMAO. That made me laugh.

by Jo on Feb 4, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Life threatening……wow. BJ bragged that he was born a fighter and that he would never quit and he did. He needs to swallow his pride and move on, hiring a legal team to file a complaint is pretty stupid, especially by how badly he got beaten.
I would understand his complaint if he ever had a single submission attempt on GSP and he slipped out, but he never was able to make any submission attempts during this fight.

Also if he is concerned about his life….why did he step into the Octagon to begin with. Especially with one of the best fighters in the world.

BJ is a great guy and an awesome fighter but he needs to get over it and move on. Reminds me more of a sore looser and a whiner.

by Jo on Feb 4, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

There was no need to file anything. The investigation was already in progress. This is about saving face…

by TapedUpPair on Feb 4, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Just found this on another site.

What happened was, the second round was beginning and one of the outside inspectors came over to me and explained to me that it appeared to him that after (St. Pierre corner man) Mr. Nurse had tended to Mr. St. Pierre’s face with the Vaseline that he wiped his hands on Mr. St. Pierre’s shoulders and upper back with Vaseline so what we did after the second round was over, the Chief Inspector Tony Lato was sitting next to me – we were actually just behind Georges and to his left so we had a really good view – so we watched and at that time I think it was (another St. Pierre corner) Mr. Jackson, I believe, who was touching Mr. St. Pierre’s face and then started to touch his back area with a continuous motion – there was no wiping of the hands to take the stuff off before he did that – so we were concerned that the Vaseline was getting on that way. So we started to yell at him, and as you know it was very loud in there, in fact Tony was banging the table and they couldn’t hear us so I actually had to go inside the Octagon and then I had to yell for them to hear me, it was very loud in there, and said, "Look, what are you doing? Get your hands off his back" and then we had to wipe down his back to make sure there was no Vaseline there. These guys shouldn’t have any Vaseline anywhere on their bodies, that’s why they are checked before they go into the Octagon. The Inspectors and the corner wiped him down.

At the end of the third round there was no touching of the back but we still made sure that Georges was wiped down just to do our best to ensure a level playing field. And then after the fight I talked in the back with one of the corner men and just asked him "why did you do that?" And then he was kind of saying, "I don’t know what you are talking about." I basically just told him what I had seen and told him, "Look, you guys may have unfortunately tainted [St. Pierre’s] victory in the eyes of many of the fans and Mr. St. Pierre doesn’t deserve that. Not to mention that Mr. Penn doesn’t deserve that. And I think that there is a lot of, I noticed the next day that there are a lot of clips on the internet already with people complaining before I even talked to anybody about it. People can make up their own minds looking at it. Whether it was intentional or not even isn’t so much the issue, the issue is lets make sure we have a level playing field. I then found out [Monday] morning that apparently Mr. Penn complained to the Inspector in his corner after the second round, I think, about Mr. St. Pierre perhaps being a bit too slippery. At that same time, of course, we were in there on our own accord wiping down Mr. St. Pierre.

Mr Kizer was then asked if any further action was to be taken against St Pierre’s corner.

Its too early to tell. We’re reviewing the situation. I’m going to get a DVD from (UFC ownership) Zuffa of the camera man who focuses on the corner between rounds and take a look at it. We gave a very stern warning after the fight. We told the corner men that if they ever did something like that again it would probably be the last time they worked in Nevada. I know the principles at Zuffa were very concerned. Its hard to tell. I feel we took proper action on fight night both during the fight with trying to wipe down the Vaseline where it shouldn’t have been and both my conversations and Tony Lato’s conversations after the fight. If there is anything else to do at this point I don’t know.

by Jo on Feb 4, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

Good post.

by stevo on Feb 4, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ditto.

by justagirl on Feb 5, 2009 6:49 AM EST up reply actions  

If it was a close fight, maybe, just maybe you could entertain this “vasoline situation” but it wasn’t, so this really needs to just go away. GSP DOMINATED him because is the bigger, stronger, more complete fighter. Period. Not because of some vasoline.

As I said yesterday, someone entering the second round is gonna be sweaty which would make it more difficult for a BJJ specialist, so you can’t say that some vasoline on someone’s back is gonna feel any different.

BJ looks like such an ass for doing this. You know when they interview him about this fight in the future, he’s NOT gonna say how GSP whooped him, but instead bring up all this BS about him thinking he cheated.

I’m so sick of this already.

by MMA Fanatic on Feb 4, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

Adam G stop yer cryin….. vaseline wouldn’t help GSP take KOS down at will.

by Hal on Feb 4, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

And i found out BJ wasnt sick, i agree, no Vas BS would have helped any of those guys, including BJ now that i know he wasnt sick as well, that little bit couldt have done much. GSP, i am impessed with your performance!!! WAR PENN.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Feb 4, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

strip him of the belt! ban jackson and give his money to a charity of Bj penn’s choice. This is a deadly game they are playing. Don’t believe GSP had anything to do with it but maybe next time he’ll think of who he has in his corner. NO CHEATERS IN UFC!

by Tony P. Draper on Feb 4, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know what to say, first of all gsp completely owning penn on the feet and ground, stunned me, and now all this shit, who would have thought. This is kind of opening a can of worms, penn would have got his ass kicked regardless, the amount of vasoline applied to gsp’s chest back and shoulders was nothing, and it was wiped off both times, fighters sweat and even gsp’s sweat was rubbed off.

Penn is a sore loser and just got completely humiliated in front of millions of people, hughes is now coming out of the closet…..LOL. They apply so much grease to a fighters face and eyebrows, there are so many ways it can get transfered to the body. Punches to the face, gloves to the body, face rubs against fighters body etc etc. This really sucks because gsp is an amazing fighter and worked hard to get were he is and to have his reputation tarnished buy some stupid mistake is ridiculous. Bottom line penn got the shit kicked out of him plain and simple, suck it up.

by nathan on Feb 4, 2009 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

only wiped off the 2nd time buddy. Read the posts that have the NSAC in them.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 4, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Motormouth BJ, he’s in a no win predicament. Given the possiblity of a rematch offer, does he suffer the humiliation of turning down the offer, or another grandiose beatdown of his god-like status (yeah baby). Eitherway, one thing you can count on, BJ will get his motormouth running.

by charlyw on Feb 4, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

Wow…

This actually serious stuff and not just some petty gripe. I’m sorry for saying that it all was just flat out bitching.

Everyone needs to settle down and let this investigation go.

Disclosure: I don’t think this would have impact on who won the fight. GSP was just too dominate. Nonetheless, there needs to be an investigation.

by DubNub on Feb 4, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha vaseline aiding in gsp taking down koscheck thats halarious, you don’t think it has anything to do with wrestling with olympic wrestlers?………holy shit, talk about grasping at straws, c’mon people, jesus.

by nathan on Feb 4, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t believe the debate is about how it affected the outcome or how little vaseline was on the back.

It’s like debating how a little bit of steroid affected the outcome or how much was taken.

Intentional or not it gave an advantage that is agaisnt the rules. We all know that anything could happen in an mma fight so any little advantage can affect the outcome.

by Baxter on Feb 4, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

It seems more to me about saving face.

by TapedUpPair on Feb 4, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what Tapeduppair you might be right, but I still don`t respect BJ anymore. Not only did he not give any respect to GSP for beating him he has to go through with this BS! Come on how many of you never seen a corner man rub his fighters back? then again how many of you paid attention? After this I bet corner men that touch the vas will only touch the face? What is this going to prove BJ we all seen the fight and even your most hard core fan`s(I`m not admitting to that by the way) know you lost FAIR & SQUARE DEAL WITH IT!!

by Beaver on Feb 4, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You can call me Taped.

by TapedUpPair on Feb 4, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

A proportional amount of steroids to that miniscule amount of vas, wouldn’t do JACK SHIT to help a fighter win.

by Gord on Feb 6, 2009 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Poor gsp, he can’t win even when he does, he should sue those..cough cough..matt hughes…who try to tarnish his name. Hughes is SUCH a sore loser, why the f**k didn’t he say anything before? There second fight was a kick boxing match, what did that have to do with anything? The third fight gsp threw him around like a rag doll, ya vasoline was behind it, gsp should rematch every one of the guys who claim he was greased and humiliated them again.

by nathan on Feb 4, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

(Life threatning and career ending) The more i hear about this the more outragious it gets. Put GSP in there with whoever the UFC wants ie Serra, Hughes, Alves or Bj . Eliminate vaseline altogether and see what happens.

by EMM on Feb 5, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to feel sorry for penn and his fans and now don’t.

by nathan on Feb 4, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Newsflash…….Live quote from GSP’s camp……."The vaseline we installed on GSP’s back was put there at BJ’s request…it was the vaseline he was to use when BJ told him to ‘sit in his bed for 30 minutes and then go fvck himself.’ We just wanted to give George a head start……

by kg on Feb 4, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

actually GSP camped wanted to use a vaseline like appearance substance which may appear to be a greasing agent, but in fact a liquid lotion of a flower that should have caused Bj penns alergy to act up, causing him to die

by holyintellect on Feb 4, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

NO BJ IS MAD BECAUSE GSP DID’NT USE VASELINE ON HIS DIKK WHEN HE GAVE baby jay THE FUKKING OF HIS CAREER.

by DAVE M. on Feb 4, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

AND BY THE WAY BJ WHAT PART DID THAT VASELINE PLAY WHEN GSP SUPERMAN PUNCHED YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE? BJ YOU YOUR BEER DRINKING BEACH BUM POSSE ARE WHO YOU NEED TO EVALUATE…

by DAVE M. on Feb 4, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

GSP is accused of everything.
- Weak mentally
- Weak chin
- Weak boxing
- Cheating
- Steroids
- Relative whatever acknowledgment compensation
- Etc.

Yet he’s clearly dominant and the classiest guy in the UFC. In the meantime, unsportsmanlike folks like Hughes and Penn get away with murder.

Of course, GSPs mainstream appeal will be one of the biggest contributors to increasing UFC salaries in the years to come. What’s his reward from his fellow less likeable fighters that will benefit from it? Total disrespect.

We’re with you Georges. Stay on the high road, you’re an inspiration.

by ftg314 on Feb 4, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, it’s almost like a witch hunt, they just want to bring him down. I think someone like Georges has the fortitude to ride this thing out.

“DON’T LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN” Georges!

by justagirl on Feb 4, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

As I’ve said in a few posts, GSP will use these accusations as motivation for Alves.

Which translates to Alves = Penn = Fitch = Serra = Hughes.

“His toughest challenge yet” they say… Just like every other time…

by ftg314 on Feb 4, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP is a fraud. he just canceled a live appearance on “The Scott Ferrall Show” on Sirius 5 minutes before the show started because he was “training” 4 days after the fight. He was supposed to come on and “set the record straight”. I’m sure he is in an intense workout right now. BJ should just accept the fact that he was fighting a guy whose lifestyle requires alot of lubrication. Just ask Georges “friend” that they interviewed in the pre fight profile before his 2nd fight with Serra. I could be wrong though, maybe the real reason he cancelled on Ferrall is because he’s busy with his girl. But the chances of that are about the same as BJ beating him if they fought again. Nice job GSP, thanks for tarnishing one of the most dominant performances in the history of the sport. This is just what MMA needs.

by DR. BOMBAY on Feb 4, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Dude, chill. Nothing has been proven yet.

by justagirl on Feb 4, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

dr. bombay, the way you write reminds me of the way your nanny poops…… sloppy and all over the place.

by Hal on Feb 4, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

Im hoping GSP counter acts this formal request, and files his owm formal request into the NSAC. The request for GSP will go alil something like this. Dear NSAC, I had a fight with a very gifted Bj Penn, That I dominated, Bj said he would fight me to the death which did not happen, he quit against me and did not live up to his promise that he would fight to the death. So for my appeal im asking that Bj go to his room lay there for about 20 to 30 minutes and instead of fuking himself maybe he should swallow about 50 razor blades for all of his comments. I apologize for what my cornerman did, yall did see this and wipe it off. Also I am a fighter, and before fights we shave our body hair on our arms and chest and anywhere we can, that way when we fight our sweat makes us slippery. I did save all the blades that i shaved with. So i will be glad to donate them for his use in swallowing some blades.

Thanks
GSP

by See What Had Happend Was !!!! on Feb 4, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

PS, I also sweat like a pig, so I’m sure I am more slippery than most guys. It’s not my fault I sweat so much, the better shape one is in the more they tend to sweat.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I have always been a fan of baseball but it has been so destroyed and tarnished by “Who’s using steroids and who bought the World Series?” It is so hard to find something that is an enjoyable sport for the passion and nothing more.

This whole thing with St. Pierre, regardless of it being true or not is just so disappointing and frustrating as a whole. Not saying I agree or disagree but just the principle. Its just a shame that no matter what sport it is there seems to be something to compromise its integrity. Its just heart-breaking; to not just the fans but the athlete every single sport.

by J.R. King on Feb 4, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Since when has a little vasoline caused a guy to lose his grip,lol.

by Gord on Feb 4, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

I grew up an avid baseball fan but the game has been completely ruined and tarnished by “Who is using steroids… Who bought the World Series?” We watch these sports for the heart and desire to win and that has become an inevitable disappointment.

Now, even as MMA is discovered, something seems to have been already lost. This is not a matter of St. Pierre being right or wrong. The point is that no matter what sport we try to enjoy and believe is genuine and truly passionate, there is always something to compromise its integrity.

Not only is it a heart-break to the fan but to the true athlete of each and every sport.

by J.R. King on Feb 4, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Investigate!

Punish the cheaters!

Who cares if it had any effect on the outcome.

If I took steroids the day of the fight and won, then tested positive could I say, “oh I just started today, so it had no effect on the outcome”

They would say, probably not but you cheated.

You are banned.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 4, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

I think GSP is also REsponsible, it does not matter if you took steroids and got CREAMED by Anderson SIlva, you broke the rules and cheated, what WAS James Irvin’s Doctor or nurse who injected him or prescribed him steroids fined or banned or ?? NO the athlete is at fault here. IT does not matter that GSP WON by a landslide.
GSP needs to be penalized he sat there accepting the extra grease, GSP knows the rules, you all were praising his stupid scientific game plan that he kept on repeating about wearing out BJ’s Shoulders and …
GSP should be suspended and how the hell does he get more money 2x the amount than randy C? randy 250,000 GSP cheats and gets 400,000 plus PPV??? WTF?!?!??

by GORANDY on Feb 4, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

dana is talking b.s when stating its the corner’s fault..so GSP didnt know that he was being lubricated…theyre a team..im sure the trainers knew that he was being lubricated by that corner guy

by vaseline on Feb 5, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

to bj,be man enough to accept that you can’t beat GSP… i guess you have no BALLS to do that! .. Let me tell you something, I never said something bad to B.J. Penn. I never answered back to him with what he said. I’ve always been respectful. Even after the fight I went and told him, ‘Hey, keep your head up. You can be proud. You’re a tough guy. You stayed in the ring for a long time.’ But now that he says something like that it bothers me a lot. He already said I was taking steroids, that I was a quitter, that he was blaming me for seeing a sports psychologist and now he says that I cheat because I use Vaseline." —-GSP..that’s right, gsp didn’t thrash talk to penn during the interviews.. there’s no need for investigation here… c’mon!! if you’re a true fighter, you will accept that you’ve lost the fight because of your CARELESNESS during your TRAINING!!!!! to b.j, Be man enough DUDE!!!

by zike on Feb 5, 2009 5:26 AM EST reply actions  

First time it was steriods and this time it was vasoline, that magical vasoline aided gsp in his superman punches too eh?

by nathan on Feb 5, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Just saw the fight a few hours ago. GSP prepared well, had a game plan, stuck to it and took BJ out in style. BJ should seriously review where he went wrong and go from there. Well fought GSP.

by markstraining.com on Feb 6, 2009 6:25 AM EST reply actions  

BJ Penn is a cry baby. He talked all of that trash and now the spoiled fat boy feels stupid and is reaching for the sky. BJ Penn was done after the first round and the fat boy was gased early on. BJ needs to man up because he’s acting like a spoiled brat who didn’t get his way.

by Wizz on Apr 10, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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