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UFC 94 recap: Penn quits on the stool, Machida knocks out Silva

UFC 94: "St. Pierre vs. Penn II" from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, is in the books and George St. Pierre is still the UFC welterweight champion.

The only thing more impressive than the gameplan his team put together for this fight was the way he executed it. Coming in, the only real weakness BJ Penn had ever shown was cardio related. GSP came out of the gates attacking that weakness by leaning on the 155-pound champ and wearing him down with a visible size and strength advantage for most of the first two rounds.

After he had BJ good and tired, St. Pierre switched his attack and started winning exchanges on his feet. At that point Penn looked tired and frustrated, and it was clear he didn't have an answer for anything GSP did. The Canadian fighter pounded away on the Hawaiian native with numerous unanswered shots during a lopsided fourth round.

Before the fifth round could begin, the decision was made by Penn's corner to call it a night, giving GSP the technical knockout victory and his second straight welterweight title defense.

After the fight, 170-pound number one contender Thiago Alves came into the Octagon to talk about finally getting his shot at the division title. GSP agreed that "Pitbull" had earned his chance, and now it's only a matter of before it goes down.

What a fight that's going to be.

In the co-main event of the evening, Lyoto Machida stopped fellow Brazilian Thiago Silva in first loss of his career with a brutal buzzer-beating, one punch knockout at the end of round one.

"The Dragon" was again impressive with his elusive style and deceptive striking, but he was also a lot more aggressive in this fight than in the past. His ground and pound was nasty and to be quite frank he was just a better fighter than Silva in every aspect.

In his post-fight interview, Machida wasn't shy about asking for his chance to face current light heavyweight champion Rashad Evans. Honestly, it's hard to argue with the guy. No one has been able to even hurt the guy, let alone defeat him and if anybody is deserving of the number one contender role, it's him.

Star-divide

Other than the two featured fights, each of the other eight bouts went to the judges scorecards, with five of them being split-decisions.

Stephan Bonnar was unsuccessful in his return to the Octagon after more than a year. He faced the dynamic up-and-comer Jon Jones and wound up on the wrong end of a unanimous decision. "Bones" once again looked outstanding, displaying a wide variety of kicks and strikes in his already formidable arsenal.

He's definitely a guy to keep an eye on in the light heavyweight division. A dominating win over a well known guy like Bonnar is a big feather in this kid's cap.

Karo Parisyan squeaked out a split-decision win over previously undefeated South Korean product Dong Hyun Kim. In a night filled with difficult fights to call, this was probably the most frustrating to score.

Both came in with similar styles and seemed to reach a stalemate throughout the entire fight. It certainly could have gone either way and in no way should be considered an impressive showing for Karo. Still, a win is a win and at least he showed up for the fight.

The Clay Guida and Nate Diaz fight was a great back-and-forth battle with lots of action. Nate showed some great stand-up in the final round, but he had no answer for Guida's wrestling and tenacious style.

"The Carpenter" had the submission wizard's back for a good length of time throughout the three rounds and surprisingly had a lot of success on the ground, staying out of the submissions. It was hard watching either fighter lose, but Guida earned the split-decision victory.

Former welterweight number one contender Jon Fitch was relegated to the undercard for his first fight back since his unanimous decision loss to Georges St. Pierre back at UFC 87 in August. He dominated his way to a unanimous decision victory over the charismatic cross-dresser Akhiro Gono.

Note from Editor Jesse Holland: Gono came to the Octagon in a prom dress, and danced with his corner like some kind of RuPaul-inspired homage to the Pointer Sisters.

All in all it was a solid night of fights. The main event was maybe a little too one-sided, but that just speaks to how good George St. Pierre really is. We'll see what Thaigo Alves has to say about it, but right now GSP looks unbeatable.

Up next for the UFC is Ultimate Fight Night 17 from the University of Southern Florida (USF) Sun Dome in Tampa, Florida on February 17. The event will be aired live on Spike TV and will feature a main event of Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens.

Mac Danzig, Josh Neer, Cain Velasquez, Kurt Pellegrino, Rich Clementi, Gleison Tibau and Anthony Johnson are all expected to be in action in Tampa as well.

Don't miss it. For our complete UFC 94 coverage click here .

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rather than the 2 main fights terrible event!

and jon jones is a beast..

by shamo84 on Feb 1, 2009 3:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been saying it since august – Jones is the truth. He will not be denied.

by NameNotRequired on Feb 1, 2009 3:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a sad day for team Penn. Not to discredit GSP because he looked unbelieveable, but bj didn’t even show up last night! I gotta say that was a one sided beatin’ if I’ve ever seen one. Machida looked very impressive in his fight. He deserves that title shot with a performance like that!

by allamerican on Feb 1, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was a key member on Team Penn, and I will also admit that BJ didnt even show up…..Just shows how dominant GSP is at 170 lbs.

The fight against Alves who is bigger and stronger then GSP wont be that easy! looking forward to that fight!

Ufc 100 should just be:
GSP vs. Alves WW title
Penn vs. Florian LW title!
Machida vs. forrest for #1 contender

by john on Feb 1, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am a business major! I do numbers! I cant stand writing and as you can all tell….I suck at it! I have a lot to say about the UFC scoring system and I was wondering if there were any proficient writers out there that can take my knowledge on the subject and turn it into a well written article. anyone interested let me know!

by john on Feb 1, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John, I’m a History and Philosophy major so I’ve had to write more papers than any man should lol If you want to try and work something out with the information you have about the 10 point scoring system, i would be more than happy to TRY and write the article. Especially right now because i think that along with steroids, it is one of the most important subjects currently discussed in MMA. In addition to all of that, GSP GSP GSP!!! BJ calls GSP a quitter and then quits himself = best moment of my (MMA) life

by Breton on Feb 1, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

let me get your e-mail, and I will send you my thoughts in a day or 2, and you put my thoughts together!

\Cause I can ramble on the scoring system all day!

by john on Feb 1, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John, I am currently doing whatever temp BS work I can get my hands on just to pay the bills, but in a proper economy I am a writer and editor with a heavy emphasis on sports writing. Shoot me an e-mail (Mania has it) and I can put together a well-crafted, compelling and persuasive article.

by PW on Feb 1, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My man! Give me a couple of days~!

by john on Feb 1, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well i would have done it john but i certainly do not have the credentials that PW does!! lmao but i’m extremely interested in the info you have man and i would still like to read it and try to make an article out of it. It might not be as good as PW but it certainly won’t hurt to have two versions and trust me i am a very competent writer don’t get me wrong, its just PW seems to have more experience lol

by Breton on Feb 1, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thaigo Silva= new training camp. I can’t beleive that you were trying to use the same game plan as everyone else that has been defeated. ATT is stupid for letting you do it. You should try a new camp ATT isnt doing anything for you. Maybe this lose will help you open your eyes. Your chin is weak you cant have it exposed like that.

by Danny_c on Feb 1, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know about everyone else, but last night I came away most impressed with Lyoto Machida – just like the last few times he has fought. After last nights performance, I don’t know how anyone can not appreciate his style. Everyone was so dead set on ‘Thiago being this vicous striker that was going to kill the “boring” Machida’. Sorry guys, but Machida proved that he is head and shoulders against everyone he has faced in his career thus far.above everyone. He fought an undefeated THiago Silva and didn’t even get punched once! or if he did, I must have missed it. Machida dropped him three times and left him for dead in the center of the octagon at the buzzer of Round 1. Now you want to talk about an impressive performance!!! WOW!!! I am happy that I was having a bad run and Boner messed up my parlay because I ran to the computer and got Machida at -200 as he was entering the octagon.

BJ on the other hand, he just didn’t show up mentally. Even in the stare down, he didn’t look right. GSP was the one doing the “BJ rock”. GSP was once one of the most exciting fighters in MMA and sooo many people (not I) were so happy to see him dethrown the greatest WW of all time, Matt Hughes – because some people saw him as a “boring wrestler”. Pretty ironic, HUH??

And what was up with “Huggie Bear” Guida??? That was awful. He looked like a gay man hugging a straight man throughout the entire fight. Talk about not wanting to fight! If anyone was going to implement that strategy, I thought it would have been John Palakowski (that kid that hugged everyone this past season of TUF). After the fight, I called that he would win by split decision, and people thought I was crazy. But I knew that one judge would discredit Clay for showing zero aggression. I found that even more boring tha lay n pray.

by ViolentMike on Feb 1, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right on about Machida. I don’t know what more he has to do to get a title shot. He ended any questions about his marketability by leaving Silva in a twitching pile on the mat.

I missed the Guida-Diaz affair (doesn’t sound like it’s right to call it a fight), and it sounds exactly like what I expected, except Diaz never caught the triangle. I like Guida less and less every time he fights.

by PW on Feb 1, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah UFC marketability = lots of Tatoos, a big mouth thats talk a lot of shits, you have to be mad man that throws a lot of wild punches = I guess this is the opposite to Machida..lol

Also, UFC is scared that if they give Lyoto a shot and he got the belt, no one will ever take it off him(just like A Silva), man he’s too good he’s on another level, if people can’t see that then what more do you want out of MMA, might as well go watch Tennis or something.

by Machida on Feb 2, 2009 8:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Clay Guida’s enterancehad me up dancing in the living room. He is AWSOME!!

by iagoof22 on Feb 1, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he is a bad dude for sure, but the illegal spinning elbow to the back of the head played a big part in taking the wind out of bonnar’s sails

by The_Cannibal on Feb 2, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Only if your a BJ fan I guess you can say that? UFC put`s on a great show I was at a pub that was packed full of BJ fans and they were all honest enough to admit it was a great card and GSP was just too good now. I don`t know what you were watching shamo84?? are were you? Every fight had the bar cheering were I was at. Jones wasn`t even part of the 2 main events yet he was a beast? come on bud your not fooling anybody….your a BJ fan correct?

by Beaver on Feb 1, 2009 3:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love it!! BJ calls GSP a quitter then quits himself! wow all is right with the world right now in my book… pretty much sums up penn’s character right there

by brendan on Feb 1, 2009 4:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to say congratulations to GSP for fighting an amazing fight. He dominated my boy! I am still shocked at how that fight played out! GSP proved to be the better welterweight. NO denying that!

I have a question, I am not saying that it didnt happen, but why is everyone saying that BJ quit? Did I miss something? It was explained as Herb Dean stopped it due to the DR.’s advice. Anyone have any news on this? Not that it would have mattered, GSP was DOMINATING!!! I new BJ was in trouble as soon as I saw his calm demeanor during his enterance. THats NOT BJ! BJ is a Lunatic, just a ball of emotion ready to explode on an opponent. He seemed out of it, as soon as he walked out of his dressing room. BJ is at his best when he is fired up…..I was baffled by his demeanor!

aS much as I was rooting for4 BJ, the best case scenario played itself out last night. I really didnt want 1 man holding 2 UFC titles. NOw we can proceed with BJ vs. Florian and Alves vs. GSP…2 great fights!

AS for Machida…all i can say is WOW!!! Where are the haters at today? Give this man a title shot! Yes, give it to him before my boy Rampage…..Machida is simply tHAT GOOD!!!

I looked at Jon Jones as the future, and I didnt think he was ready right now…but F that! this kid is a freaking Animal! what a freaking monster! Props to Joe Silva for bringing him in! Looks like a diamond in the rough! Reminds me of a LHW version of Rumble, but a little more explosive!

How the F did Karo win a decision?

by john on Feb 1, 2009 6:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Rogan explained Machida perfectly. He’s taken the best parts of Karate and mixed them with ALL the other aspects of MMA.

I hate how they build Karo’s judo up like he’s some sort of master. He’s not!! And I also don’t know how he won that fight.

I’m also pissed that Nate lost like he did. I’m not a big fan of Nate (Nick – yes) but Guida just didn’t try to win the fight and didn’t throw a punch or go for a sub in the 2nd or 3rd. Yes he controlled Nate but it was just awful to watch.

by MoonUK on Feb 1, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did nate/Giuda fight really get fight of the night bonus???

by MoonUK on Feb 1, 2009 7:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wtf was Nate Diaz doing last night? He was picking Guida apart, usiong his reach, keeping Guida at distance..;..and then Diaz clinches! He was winning the 1st round until he was the one who clinched and then Guida took him down. In the 3rd round I believe he had Guida rocked bad, and Diaz clinched again! WTF was he doing?

By the way, Nick Diaz looks in shape, and he looks like he put on some muscle! Hopefully I get to see him fighting in DREAM sometime soon!

Good point MoonUK! For the 2nd fight in a row, Clay managed to win by dry humping! No strikes, no subs….just controlling his opponent. THis is a fight….DAMAGE should be the #1 criteria. THe UFC’s scoring system needs to change. NOpw a days, all you need to do to win a decision, is out wrestler your opponent. its really starting to get on my nerves!

All I hear Rogan say is how Guida is this exciting fighter….BS! He is another Human Blanket with Long hair!

Pitiful performance by guida!

by john on Feb 1, 2009 7:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John, BJ came out like that against Sherk and did just fine. Penn at his best can’t beat GSP now. GSP seemed to pop out of Penn’s guard at will. Very impressive performance by Georges.

Machida is ridiculously good. I can’t see anyone stopping him at the moment.

by RobH86 on Feb 1, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am an admitted Stun Gun nuthugger and a notorious Karo Basher, so of course I am a little biased on the issue.

Tell me what you guys think:

I feel that awarding Karo the win last night was a TRAVESTY!!!! Karo did nothing. I owuld probably give Karo the 2nd round. After the dominating start, Stun Gun seemed to fizzle towards the end of the fight, but I still think he should have been given the decision. It was a close fight, but I thought kim clearly would have won a majority 29-28 decision.

Not to mention, the fact that Karo cheated throughout the entire fight in many different ways. He wouldnt keep his mouth piece in his mouth, causing the fight to stop. He grabbed the cage to stop from being taken down numerous times. He was grabbing stun Gun’s shorts! I never seen a fighter get so many damn warnings without a point being removed. I dont want to complain about the ref’s because overall I think they did a good job last night but come on. you cant just sit there and warn a fighter 10 times without deducting a point!

Am I just that much of a Karo hater, or do my complaints have merit?

by john on Feb 1, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know RobH! Mentally I thought something was wrong with BJ! he looked like he had serious doubts! The one thing I counted on was BJ being the stronger fighter mentally…that was clearly not the case last night. The fact that GSP was the mentally tougher fighter makes what GSP accomplished last night that much more impressive. I was a strong supporter of team Penn. That doesnt mean I am not a GSP fan, he is one of my favorites and without a doubt, one of the best fighters in the sport…. I just honestly thought BJ would KO him!

After last night, the GSP bashers need to put the whole: He is mentally weak crap to bed! I dont ever want to hear that again! GSP showed how tough he was mentally last night, and thats what impressed me most about last night.

About a week ago, I predicted that Alves would beat whoever fighter was going to emerge last night as WW champion, and I am going to stand by that! A huge part of GSP’s dominance is his strength and size advantage over his opponents. That was a key part of his win last night. He isnt going to enjoy that advantage against Alves who is bigger, stronger and just as explosive as GSP, which makes that fight very interesting.

Given the fact that there isnt an mma fighter on this planet with better stand up then Alves at 170 lbs, its going to make wrestling and takedowns even more important for GSP in this up coming fight. What interests me is that I think GSP will really struggle to put alves on his back, which is goingf to force GSP to stand n trade with Alves who is just Brutal! Its going to be a much harder fight for GSP, then his fight last night against Penn was.

Early prediction is Alves for the upset!

gsp REALLY IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. I am picking against him in back to back fights. That doesnt mean I am a hater because I am a big fan, its a testament to how good the level of competition that gSP faces that I am picking against him in back to back fights. Props to GSP for fighting mOnsters in 3 fights in a row.

I always loved GSP’s skills, but I worried about how he would do against the best because he spent about a year fighting Hughes and Serra
who are not top ww’s. His next 3 fights have been against MOnsters (fitch, Pen, Alves) so I want to say Props to GSP for taking on the worlds best!

by john on Feb 1, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

stun gun got robbed. im pretty sure karo also grabbed the fence to prevent a throw in the 3rd round.

by rich on Feb 1, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agreed with it being a split decision for karo. i think round 3 was completely even, but kim won round one and karo won round 2. the only difference was that i think karo won round 2 more decisively than kim won round 1. that was definitely the toughest fight of the night to call.

by newkoba on Feb 1, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Uuurrgghh…I knew I shouldn’t have drunk so much last night.

All in all a decent night of fights with an excellent performance from Machida and GSP. I paired them up for my main bet so I made some decent money on that one.

Pretty pissed off with Nate and Stun guns fights as they were both the better fighters but had opponents that could only grind out boring decisions via hugging instead of actually fighting. I feel bad for Nate but was shocked to see him letting Guida get on the inside so much. I would have loved to see Nate knock his ass out. As I predicted Jones dominated Bonnar but put too much into the first two rounds and nearly paid for it. It will be interesting to see where he goes from here if he has only been training 2yrs!

Has anyone seen AdamG?? I hope he is coming to terms with last night. Something tells me he was probably even more drunk than me last night!

by Ca$z on Feb 1, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Newkoba you can’t be serious. Kims round 1 was total domination against someone who was supposed to have equal skills in the same areas. Only problem was I think he put too much into that round and couldn’t perform 100% for the rest of the fight otherwise Karo would have got schooled.

by Ca$z on Feb 1, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John- BJ was fine mentally until after the 2nd round. Then he seemed to give up and know he was out classed. His head didn’t seem to be in it after that. And I posted this on another thread but as far as the dr stoppage issue- you can see in the replay that the dr ok’d him to keep going but his brother tapped him on the shoulder as he walked away and said “we’re done”. I don’t know why they announced it as a dr stoppage, they replayed it before they announced the winner and it was clear as day that his corner threw in the towel.

by DSmith on Feb 1, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard it in BJ’s corner, they kept asking him if he wanted to continue, where he was, etc.. BJ replied something like “I want it to stop”(twice),“let me see the DR” His corner looked at the DR and did the waive of the hand across the neck.

Guida won due to Octagon control, but yes he was rocked in the 3rd rd but Nate didn’t go for the kill.

Machida is a beast. Different fighter last night, very focused. Could be even more dangerous with his skills and new focus now.

Karo is a joke. He just signed a 5 fight contract, and how would it look to lose the first one, flabby.

Didn’t BJ say if you tap while getting punched (or quit) that you’re a little bitch? hmmm….. That’s the one thing I don’t like about Penn, he gets motivated my “hating” his opponent..no respect to the other. GSP is a class act!

by DirtbagHtr on Feb 1, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BJ quit. His corner kept asking him if he wanted to continue. Twice BJ said,“I want it to stop”, and “let me talk to the DR”. The DR sees him and his corner waived their hands across the neck and basically threw in the towel. What medical condition did they stop it? His cut wasn’t bad, its just his feelings,, awe…

Machida was a different fighter last night, more focused, and more dangerous now.

Guida won by Octagon control, even though he was getting pounded in the 3rd rd, but Diaz didn’t go for the kill.

Karo is a joke, Why didn’t they show Fitch’s fight instead. He just signed a 5 fight contract and of course they couldn’t have him lose his first one.. He’s still flabby.

BJ said if you tapout while getting punch (or quit) that you’re a little bitch??? hmmm….. The only thing I don’t like about Penn is that he only gets motivated by “hating” his opponent.. no respect.. GSP is a class act.

by DirtbagHtr on Feb 1, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw it the same way….good event. Like I said BJ has done nothing at 170 for over 3yrs…..I called it Friday… a one sided loss for Penn… Penn will rule at 155 and GSP at 170….I like both guys.
Machadia is a great fighter never got hit yet!
How does Guida bear hug Nate for three rounds and gets mauled standing up and comes away with the win?

by Robert(1) on Feb 1, 2009 8:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just shows how flawed the UFC scoring system is! No a days, the better wretsler always wins the decision! I think its GARBAGE!!! The only criteria that should matter is DAMAGE! Why should a fighter get points for a takedown? Isn’t being on top enough of a reward for getting a takedown? The UFC doesnt reward a fighter who works to get the fight standing from his back, so how can you reward a guy for taking the fight to the ground?

For example: Cheal Sonnen vs. Maia…. If Chael Takes Maia down and ends up in his guard, why should he get points for the takedown? Do u really think Maia minds being on his back? Of Course not! Only takedowns that should count as points are slams, because they inflict DAMAGE!!!!!

Octagon control and agression are also BS criteria’s! WHO THE f CARES WHO IS ON TOP OR WHO IS MOVING FORWARD? That doesnt win a fight. what wins a fight is DAMAGE!!!! Its the only thing that should matter! I want to see the fighter that took the most beating LOSE every single time….and that doesnt always happen in the UFC. If Damage was the only criteria, Diaz would have easily beaten Guida (who didnt even throw a punch).

Since I would not award points for takedowns, I have to be fair and not award points for submission attempts. Isnt the chance of instantly endimg a fight, reward enough for attempting submissions? why should points be allowed!

Only thing thaty should matter in the judging is Damage! Until the scoring changes, decisions will 9/10 always be awarded to the better wrestler. I want to se the fighter who gets his ass kicked the worst lose everytime…..and we aren’t getting to see that lately in the uFC!

by john on Feb 1, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think BJ had a fundamental error in his assumptions. Look at Franklin moving up to 205—he packed on muscle to do it. BJ clearly thought that GSP wouldn’t have a strength advantage and came in a soft 168. He could not have been more wrong. Also, it’s clear that when GSP is fired up, he brings it to another level.

by BobC on Feb 1, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

john, that would favor strikers over wrestlers. Wrestlers can tire a guy out by taking his opponent down, thus being an advantage in winning. If octagon control and agression weren’t criteria we would be in for some very boring fights. MMA is all fighting systems and none should be favored over others. Often 15 minutes isn’t enough time to determine a clear cut winner, so the judges have to decide who would likely win with no time restrictions. GSP-Penn 1 is a perfect example. One could argue that GSP didn’t do much damage with his take-downs, however another could have a more compelling arguement that GSP was working towards an inevitable win if the fight was to go on. I think the fighter who is in control and aggressive for the majority of 3 rounds will win way more often than not if left to go past the time limit.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John- BJ didn’t quit as far as I could see. His corner men said “We’re stopping it” and made a motion to cut it to the doctor. BJ would have went back out for a 5th because he has crazy heart, but it was the right decision, because he would have just been hurt even more. I think GSP was mad that Herb Dean didn’t stop it at the end of round 4. He looked up at him a couple times while he was unloading on Penn, and got nothing. After the round he punched the fence, and IMO he was probably frustrated that the fight was still going. He was completely dominating, and I don’t think he enjoys punishing guys once they are beaten. Congrats to my boy GSP!!!, and here’s to BJ getting healthy and beating the snot out of K-Flo.

by LJ on Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If BJ wanted to go out in the 5th, he would have and JD stopped the fight after talking to BJ. BJ obviously told JD that he was done. BJ didn’t contest the stoppage because he’s the one who ultimately called it. He QUIT, plain and simple.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In the top of the thread at least, the BJ fans seem pretty gracious. I’m glad to see that not many are making excuses for him, although Sp00ner1234 below thinks that Anderson killing GSP will somehow negate what happened last night. Has anyone checked up on Adam G. I’m a little worried. Anyway, BJ looked in pretty good shape last night, so huge props to Georges.Goerges’ new nickname:
             Georges “The Gameplan” St Pierre

I think Georges executes his gameplans better than anyone in the UFC. That weapon is in addition to the best wrestling, the best conditioning, and some of the best striking in the game. I hope I don’t ever again hear any of that mental midget shit again. The way he completely dominated BJ makes him the P4P king. Sorry to break it to all the Andy and Fedor nuthuggers. GSPYOU ALREADY KNOWGSP!

by DH on Feb 1, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no, I love both gsp and bj, but the main thing is I hate decisions, so I really didn’t enjoy watching karo vs kim, nate vs guida and the fact that we didn’t get to see any prelim

also the jon jones fight was luckluster rather than the first round..

the 2 main events were great

by shamo84 on Feb 1, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH Adam… We must go into hiding. I am disgraced. I get my retribution when Anderson KILLS GSP

by Sp00ner1234 on Feb 1, 2009 4:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t count on it, GSP is a bad match for Anderson. Silva could be a bad match for GSP also, but it’s more likely GSP will get the TD before he get’s KOed. Silva usually finishes fast and dominant, but he doesn’t dominate the whole fight like GSP does. GSP can inflict damage and still retain top control, unlike Nate and Hendo who were to afraid to make a move and lose top position. GSP will be bigger and better when he faces Silva. I’ve been saying this for over a year and less and less people are calling me crazy after each dominant win by GSP. If GSP dominates a dangerous striker like Alves then I’d imagine there would be even more people who think GSP could beat Silva.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 5:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I got to agree with you on that. Silva vs GSP will be awesome, but I give the edge to GSP. Silva has not faced anyone like him, has not been tested by anyone like him, and I feel GSP will dominate him on the ground. Hell, Travis Lutter worked over Silva for a little while. I’m excited for the Alves fight, but let’s just get on to the Silva fight now! I was more jacked for that fight possibility than the BJ fight!

by slim473 on Feb 1, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

eeehhh, don’t feel too bad about it. We got this one wrong. At least we were pulling for the smaller guy and not being frontrunners. Props to GSP for the gameplan and executing it. Wish he would stop making fights wrestling matches but he’s unstoppable that way. Congrats to team GSP. hopefully BJ doesn’t push this complaint with the NSAC too much. Unneccesary and looks like sour grapes. Just go down to 155 and dominate for years BJ. Machida looked phenomenal last night and hopefully he stops taking so much flak on here now. Dude is a beast and will be a champion soon. I thnk Rampage is the only man capable of beating him.

John, i rewatched the Shogun/Forrest fight again last night. Shogun did not look injured at all. He may have been injured in training and had a tough time training but come fight night he was not favoring one leg, he did everything he wanted to. Forrest fought basically a perfect fight and Shogun gassed. Watch it again.

by Crowls on Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was SO happy to see Machida knock out Thiago Silva, who I believe had it coming. He always trys to look so mean and scary after he wins, So that made it sweet to see my favorite 205pound fighter completely embarass him. I seem to remember so many people hating on machida and nut hugging Thiago so this is a real thrill.

by JRE on Feb 1, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, does BJ now stand for Bloated Jackass or Broken Jaw? Too much vaseline on Georges’ back? More like too much vaseline up your ass, Bum Jabber. You got served.

by Jeremyjackson on Feb 1, 2009 3:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What more can be said? BJ showed hes the true b*tch! The true quitter! BJ’s striking was better…LMAO! Fighting GSP is a bit different than training with Mandaloniz! BJ’s brother saying GSP was an “athlete” not a “fighter” LMAO! then why save BJ from the “athlete?” BJ was suppose to be the “fighter” I really, truly, hope Adam didnt comit suicide!

by JV on Feb 1, 2009 3:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fuck u!!

by pUniSHment on Feb 1, 2009 3:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol sorry for that outburst :p

by pUniSHment on Feb 1, 2009 3:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, Penn pulled a Big Nog. God damn. Im so depressed. Never been more bummed. Don’t know what to say man.

by The Anomaly on Feb 1, 2009 6:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Penn didn’t pull a big Nog, he’s just got beat by a far superior fighter at 170lbs. The minute GSP got the takedown the fight was over.

by LJ on Feb 1, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Penn didn’t pull a big Nog, he’s just got beat by a far superior fighter at 170lbs. The minute GSP got the takedown the fight was over.

by LJ on Feb 1, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel for you guys, because I know how passionate of fans you are of BJ. I tried my best to soften the blow by giving many reasons why GSP would be to much for BJ, yet I don’t think I conviced anyone in the slightest. Anywho time heals all wounds, so you guys will be back to feeling like your old selves in no time.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You can tell who has won before or will again by how they act after winning.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 1, 2009 3:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JV, Georges showed what kind of competitor he really was last night. Getting your back greased up with vaseline before the fight and after round one and two is despicable. Having a greased body is ideal when you are fighting a submission master. Its also cheating. Dana saw the whole thing. I hope it gets ruled a no contest. Although unlikely.

BJ still has the most natural talent in MMA. If he had the work ethic of someone like Hughes or Franklin we could really see how great he could be. I’d pick BJ on his best day against anyone on their best day, p4p, period. I hate to say it but he needs a new camp. One that he’s not running and calling the shots. Extreme Couture could do him some good. Come on BJ, lets not go through this again. You looked like shit last night. Get your head together.

Sincerely,

Your #1 fan in an ocean of your other #1 fans.

by Nokimono on Feb 1, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Where’s the proof for this accusation? Sources please.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

5 oz of pain & MMAMAINIA

by Nokimono on Feb 1, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if you actually read the article it says clearly that the vaseline was wiped off him before the round started.

by georgef on Feb 2, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dont ask me how i know this but vaseline can’t just be wiped off…

by Nokimono on Feb 2, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Last thing about Machida and I’ll stop for tonight, but not only does this guy win, he comes out of fight unscathed! Like Rampage said after he beat Chuck, they should call Machida “NO TOUCH”…Lyoto “No Touch” Machida

by Chadx23 on Feb 1, 2009 3:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Machida was fantastic and should fight Evans first. That said, I also feel T Silva was exposed for what he is at this juncture of his carrer. He’s a decent fighter with an exciting style, but definitely not among the top 8-10 fighters in the division.

by CL on Feb 1, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Has any fighter ever made another one eat their words like GSP just did to BJ Penn?

BJ did not come like he was ready to fight to the death. He looked sluggish and full of nerves.

Hi, I’m one of the idiots that thought Penn was going to KO GSP.

All I know is I’m never betting against GSP (at WW) again in my life! I don’t care if he fights Alves and Fitch at the same time.

Any thoughts on what BJ is gonna do? Will he retire? Will he lick his wounds and come back to fight Kenny at LW, never to dream of WW again?

Or will he string together some LW wins and then start fantasizing about fighting GSP again. The way he performed tonight, he would have to start at the bottom of the WW division and beat every single guy up the ladder before anyone would even let him mention GSP’s name again.

GSP, you are a deserving champ and a credit to the sport. You are on your way to doing what you said you wanted to do: become the greatest of all time. Only Fedor and AA are in your league, and you should be considered the #1 of the moment.

by revjames13 on Feb 1, 2009 3:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

AA is one of my favorite fighters and he has comparable physical skills, but he just doesn’t have the brains of Fedor and GSP. He’s still making stupid mistakes.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 3:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Classy admission of GSP’s win.

One can only hope that BJ will be as gracious.

by Teep on Feb 1, 2009 4:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ufc 94 was awesome. bj demonstrated that he’s the lil bitch and he should learn to be more humble and respectful. he should just go back 2 LW and give ken flo his chance. machida delivered and will be champ. fuck nate lost.

by TRIKZ on Feb 1, 2009 3:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

How come BJ didn’t ask everybody to come to his “AFTER PARTY AMBULANCE RIDE?”

lol, JV, I had to post it again!

by DAVE on Feb 1, 2009 3:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL! BJ was about to cry at the end of the Prime Time show. Imagine if they asked him how he felt.

by JV on Feb 1, 2009 3:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BJ must feel humilated, GSP raining down elbows was his worst nightmare. Talking trash and not backing it up 1 bit, not even close!

BJ won’t come out of the house for about 2 weeks!

ahhh’’’ beddy bye time… hasta all my amigos… mas sueno!

by DAVE on Feb 1, 2009 3:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was a Machido hater till tonight…but i want to see him fight Bones Jones before a title shot.

by Josh on Feb 1, 2009 3:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You are just starting to understand Machida. We who have always sung his praises know that it’s time to give this warrior his title shot. He is the next champion and that will be an epic fight. How many fools bought into the Dana
White hype about BJ and GSP being the Hagler/Hearns of today? I’m just glad that he can’t use that reference for any future match ups.

by MrFyer on Feb 1, 2009 6:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I certainly didn’t MrFyer. Just as many of us thought, GSP dominated BJ by executing a great gameplan. Dana White is great at hyping fights, especially when so many listen to everything he says like it’s the truth. Machida should fight Evans next, and if Rampage beats Jardine he should get the winner. Machida/Evans will be a very interesting fight style wise.

by Diceman on Feb 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I never enjoyed seeing Machida fight until tonight. He was too elusive, like he was afraid to stand and bang. But tonight he had a more aggressive style. I’d like to see a match-up with Sugar.

by GangOfOne on Feb 1, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell does an undefeated fighter need to fight a 21-year-old rookie to earn a title shot??? Now that Machida has the dominating KO win Dana needs to promote a big fight with him, Machida’s next fight better be scheduled for 5 rounds.

by PW on Feb 1, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agree 100%, and Machida would destroy bones

by Thebending on Feb 1, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BJ I want you to go lay on your bed and fu#k yourself.Isnt that what he told somone. Adam will have to find somone else to have a Bromance with.

by I Told You So on Feb 1, 2009 3:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he told that to GSP’s lead trainer.

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 8:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was completely stunned by what happpened. First things first, I love and always will love BJ Penn as a fighter. He did not let me down tonight. GSP was just better. He played the stand-up game game until he felt it was time to go in for the take down. I was completely heart-broken when Penn lost. I wanna tell guys like Gord and JV that I was wron and I will now eat my words. Again I still love Penn as a fighter, and I do think he would beat any other welterweight in the division. It’s safe to say that GSP is Penn’s kryptonite. He’s kinda like what Franklin is to Silva. IMO, Penn is to good to fight in the lightweight division, but it will be a tough road if he ever wants to go for the welterweight belt again. BJ

by pUniSHment on Feb 1, 2009 3:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Its all good homie! BJ just belongs at 155.

by JV on Feb 1, 2009 3:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a hard pill to swallow JV. It kinda felt like the world paused when I realized the fight stopped. Many of you will hate on me for writing this, but I will and always will be one of the most passionate BJ Penn fans ever. GSP was better them him, theres nothing else to say. Forever will BJ Penn be my favorite.

by pUniSHment on Feb 1, 2009 3:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed Pun…I’m with you

by --utaptout--(still BJ's 4th Biggest Hugger) on Feb 1, 2009 3:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed JV. BJ should just stay at 155. He is a great fighter and one of my favorites, but 155 is where he belongs. I’m glad my boy won like I knew he would but I have nothing against Penn except this bs about him accusing GSP of greasing. Now that I have a serious problem with.

by DSmith on Feb 1, 2009 4:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You cannot just say that Penn would beat any other WW. What welterweights has Penn beaten in the last 3 years?

John Fitch and Thiago Alves might also be able to beat Penn. But I do agree that Penn is the best LW.

by ProKev on Feb 1, 2009 3:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No problem man, believe it or not I actually feel for the more passionate BJ fans(even Adam G lol). I know how I would feel if GSP lost so I can empathize.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t understand how everyone thinks BJ could beat GSP at his best?! Rogan said it best that if two equal guys fight, the heavier fighter always wins. BJ is not a welterweight, and where he has advantages in the 155 lb class (reach advantage, etc…) he doesn’t have at 170. I thought it would be a good fight, and you never know what could happen in MMA, however, these guys bringing their A-game, GSP wins all day. I disagree on the points that BJ didn’t look ready. I thought he looked focused and ready to fight, he was just overwhelmed by GSP’s pressure and maturity as a fighter. So, all things being equal, would Fitch beat BJ Penn seeing as how he coudl take the abuse for all 5?

by slim473 on Feb 1, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

surely you mean “what Silva is to Franklin”

by georgef on Feb 2, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what I learnt 2nite -

jon Jones is a future gun
Diaz loves tensing his muscles regardless if he has them or not
machida isnt a person he is actually a shadow
and GSP is actually Jesus

how’s that shit burger taste BJ ????
by the way being asked if u can continue and just hanging ur head and not responding is QUITTING !

by Jakob on Feb 1, 2009 3:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!!!!! Hahahaha. BJ has been dominated. GSP’s performance was rediculous.

by the matt king on Feb 1, 2009 3:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bj BJ BJ BG BG GSP GSP GSP!!! LOL Better than a KO or Tap out! I`m a quitter is the ultimate!!

by Beaver on Feb 1, 2009 3:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ouch! no mercy on the bj fans tonight.

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 8:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m by no means a nut-hugger of either GSP or Penn, but I was down on the Team Penn side for this one. GSP just put on an absolute clinic. My opinion is that GSP is going to hold the WW title until he gets tired of it. He was just freaking awesome.

by PW on Feb 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m crying like a fat bitch just ran out of icecream. fuck bj bj bj bj bj.
I’m ok everyone I didn’t kill myself. ill get back to you all in a week. I can believe a made a list of idiots like me thinkin bj was going to win. bj bj bj bj bj…….. ahhh fuck that

by adam g jr on Feb 1, 2009 3:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let the ugly side humanity rear its head!

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 1, 2009 3:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you’re gonna talk shit, at least put your real name on it instead of being a coward. Adam spent a lot of time on that list…as a service to all the BJ and GSP fans on this site. If you remember correctly, he made one of GSP’s fans too.

by --utaptout--(still BJ's 4th Biggest Hugger) on Feb 1, 2009 3:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

till the death george till the death or untill I get tired and hungry.

by I Told You So on Feb 1, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well I called it as soon as I heard the fight announced waayyy back when….
BJ Penn is a warrior, but he should have stayed where he is king and taken care of business….

GSP will only improve and is the evolution of a MMA fighter…

Props and respect to BJ’s fans…
Two things will happen now for BJ, he will fight Florian and destroy him OR his will having been broken by GSP he will underestimate Florian and make serious mistakes and lose..

Just my humble opinion

:^D

for AdamG and all his knowledge and efforts on Mania…props and
GSPGSPGSPGSP!
;^D

by CanadianBuddha on Feb 1, 2009 3:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

BJ got serra-ized just as predicted. Wonder what he’s going to do with taht extra jar of vaseline he brought for GSP trainer. Hopefully he’ll shove in his mouth to shut him up for good. Fight to the death? BS from BJ. Now that’s what I call ridiculous matt king.

by charlyw on Feb 1, 2009 3:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

the fight shouldn’t of even been stopped.. bj was still conscious and with his clever bjj probably could’ve pulled a submission late in the fiftch round.. i mean if anyone can come back from losing a fight it’s def bj. but there has to be another rematch..st. pierre has a close win with tonights performance (lay n pray) and bj has a win from their first fight. honestly that first fight was the most lopsided fight ive seen thus far. st pierre’s face was sooo bloody i dont think he could’ve even seen. i mean gsp did absolutely nothing.. he had a couple takedowns that he barely got and implemented no damage at all. bj on the otherhand was staying so active with his guard and nearly submitted gsp on so many occassions. honestly i thought that the ref was gonna stop the fights a couple time cuz gsp was getting so messed up(check out his post fight pic)

by bullshido on Feb 1, 2009 3:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

BJ’s brother appeared to be the one to throw in the towel. If I’m not mistaken, that is why the fight was stopped.

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 4:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s exactly right RedDog and if BJ didn’t protest and argue with his own corner then what’s your deal?

by DSmith on Feb 1, 2009 4:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re delusional and BJ QUIT. JD was talking to BJ and he said BJ was DONE. Do the math, BJ QUIT.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now that gets the award for most delusional comment of the night….didn’t your mom tell you not to do acid and watch the UFC at the same time!

by Ca$z on Feb 1, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That comment was crazy. BJ won both fights basically, that’s what you’re saying right? Do you think BJ would win the rematch? Do you get cable under that rock where you live? He didn’t try for a single submission from his back, which is where he has spent 6 of the 7 rounds they have fought. So when was he close to a submission ever?

by jay on Feb 1, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what rubbish!

by charlyw on Feb 1, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lay and Pray is where you lay on your opponent and don’t do any damage and get a decision. Lay and Own is where you take your opponent down at will and pound his face in until the ref stops the fight.

There is a difference here.

by Brandon on Feb 1, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BIG difference.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lyoto Machida is the S***!!!I’m so glad that GSP beat the hell of BJ,want to see GSP vs Thiago Alves,will be a great fight

by mike on Feb 1, 2009 3:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah GSP – Alves should be awesome. What was up with everyone booing Thiago?

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 4:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a GSP lovefest at that moment, that’s why they booed Alves.

by MrFyer on Feb 1, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That and the fact that he was struggling to get his words out.

Did anyone else hear him say he wants the SHITLE TOT!!?? lol

by Ca$z on Feb 1, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think bj had food poisoning or something. he definately didnt look like his normal self. something was wrong for sure. im anxious to find out.

by snicket916 on Feb 1, 2009 3:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice excuse, but he just got his Coconut head smashed in. No excuses, he got punished!

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 3:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In that case I will tell you right now what was wrong with BJ. He’s not as good as GSP. Kos, Serra, Hughes and Fitch didn’t look so hot either, but that is what a great does, takes his opponent out of his game. GSP is a master at that.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If BJ had food poisoning it was from too much leather and French-Canadian fist in his diet.

by PW on Feb 1, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

People seem to fail to understand that when someone is being dominated, he never looks like himself. GSP’s strategy was simple, get up close right away not letting Penn jab, getting Penn to gas out as soon as possible, then wrestle his way to victory. I am from Montreal & was at a sports bar & the crowd wen nuts the whole time. GSP is a freakin animal, but BJ Penn is still one of the most dominant P4P of all time. He just belongs at 155. BJ is still in my top 5 P4P’s no doubt. I just wish he would take it more seriously.

As for the card, even by taking out the GSP/Penn fight, this card awsome of the best I have seen in a while. I wish we could of seen the Fitch fight though & Bonnar is kinda boring. He can take a punch & keep coming back, but it get’s boring after a while.

I wish Nate would of pulled off the upset though. By the way Jakob, hilarious you cmment about Nate. “Diaz loves tensing his muscles regardless if he has them or not”. I hope to see Nate fight again real soon, he is an ansome fighter to watch, as is Guida…

I still think Karo Parisyan is a b*tch.

Machida…f&%kin awsome!!!!

by Neeko on Feb 1, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BJ was fine. GSP is too strong for him at this weight class. BJ honestly looks like he could fight at 145 if he HAD to.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 1, 2009 3:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha Ha! BJ “I quit” Penn!! GSP destroyed the myth of BJ once and for all!
I’ll be surprised if he even beats Florian after that pitiful performance tonight.

by prophet on Feb 1, 2009 3:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You can tell who has won before or will again by how they act after winning..

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 1, 2009 3:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Flo will methodically take apart BJ like he did with Huerta and make him look like a sad little fuck!

by Eddy_j on Feb 1, 2009 4:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a tough one. I think Ken Flo will be pumped watching the fight last night, but I’m not sure is he can manhandle Penn the way GSP did in the first 2 rounds. Should be a much closer fight.

by SilasM on Feb 1, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh i know, in no way was I implying that he is going to man handle GSP in any sort of way. What I am saying is that he will take hime piece by piece from a distance and slowly ware him down and get him frustrated just like he did with huerta.

by Eddy_j on Feb 1, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m really interested in hearing what all the Machida haters have to say??

I knew that he would do well against an aggressive striker but I definitely could not predict a buzzer beater victory, let alone in the 1st round. Does Machida have KO power or does Silva have a weak untested chin?? Who will expose Machida’s flaws?

Hmmm . . whatever, bring on Evans vs Machida. Another fight of undefeated combatants.

I’m sure the UFC can easily set up a championship match since Rampage will have his hands full against the hard leg kicks and striking ability of Keith Jardine.

2009 is beginning with a bang.

GSP vs BJ Penn?? cool fight. The bigger man won in all aspects. And I’ll also say that GSP was just simply better. Back to 155, Alves is up next. Florian-Penn coming up soon.

I don’t see anybody in the 155 division being strong enough to clinch and control Penn from the top with their wrestling game but at least there will be many great match ups for Penn at 155. Hopefully he will be as dedicated and focused for his real weight division.

by VEe on Feb 1, 2009 3:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah VEe, if Lyoto keeps winning like this, his marketability should sky-rocket. I think the perception that he was boring, running, etc. kept him from being a fan favorite and from getting a titile shot. One of the girls I watched the event with used to straight up hate Lyoto and after that fight she completely changed her mind. Fingers crossed for Machida getting the next title shot.

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 4:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking Machida would get the knockout in his fight because he fights to the pace of the other fighter… its the guys that attack that he does well against!

by brendan on Feb 1, 2009 4:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm, interesting thought. Cause he stopped the african assassin as well and he goes all out in his fights.

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What flaws?

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

in the espn aftershow, GSP said he knew that bj was talking about himself when he called GSP a quitter, said he didnt have the heart or skill to win, “im going to kill you george,” blah,blah,blah. bj talked too much trash for too long. he made a complete fool of himself tonight. what an embarrassment.

by fkngns on Feb 1, 2009 3:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the whole “quitter” comment really came back to bite him.

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 4:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, it’s always the loud mouths that have to convince themselves. You don’t hear a peep out of guys like Fedor, Anderson or GSP, because they are confident in themselves.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s what BJ needs to do:

1. Not lose his heart and retire. Because, make no mistake about it, GSP just took his heart from him tonight.

2. Go back to LW and destroy Kenny Florian. No offense, Ken Flo, you are a great fighter.

3. Go to a camp with some of the best fighters in the world and start training his ass off and improving. Look who GSP trains with: Rashad, Marquardt, Jardine. BJ trains with nobody of note and his isn’t challenged in Hilo.

4. After you have beaten Ken Flo and maybe even the next in line if it isn’t Sherk (Edgar? Maynard?) then consider moving up again to WW, putting the weight on properly by training like a madman with the best in the world, while working your way up from the bottom: Lytle, Davis, Karo, Swick, Matt Hughes, Serra.

If you can beat those guys than: Fitch, Kos. Don’t even mention GSP’s name for another 18 months at least.

5. Or just say screw it and clean out the LW division, never to dream of being WW Champ again.

Sad to see Penn’s dream so throughly shattered. But he shouldn’t have talked so much trash. It is not befitting a great champion. Time to learn from Randy Couture and Fedor and GSP how the best comport themselves.

I, for one, hope Penn can swallow his pride and come back better than ever. But who knows?

by revjames13 on Feb 1, 2009 4:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think he should just be a Hula dancer

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 4:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great response Vince, LMFAO!

by MrFyer on Feb 1, 2009 7:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The LW division would get really interesting if the UFC signed an Aoki or something.

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 4:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aoki is a true MMA submmission wizard and one of my favorite fighters for sure. He’ll have a glaring weakness with his stand-up in the UFC though. With that said, he’d be an instant contender and a threat to the entire division. NO ONE is even close to him in terms of his ground attack whether from top or bottom. And as per my stance in several debates from previous threads, I think he’d submit BJ if he can avoid the TKO.

Congrats to GSP on yet another dominating performance. His resume is 2nd to none.

BJ is the LWT King. Despite his 2 losses to GSP he can still solidify his legacy by clearing out the LWT division. WW is not an option these days.

Someone also said earlier in the thread that BJ’s camp isnt enough to push him and I agree. How can a fighter improve if he’s better than everyone he trains with?

by Machine on Feb 1, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here, here! Well said.

by SilasM on Feb 1, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nothing at all like there first fight
Lyoto really impressed me

by The Philicutioner on Feb 1, 2009 4:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

when did BJ say something about the vaseline? Source?

by Ixian on Feb 1, 2009 4:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

James Iannotti, you said: “…over previously undefeated Japanese product Dong Hyun Kim.” Kim is actually South Korean, FYI :)

by RedDog on Feb 1, 2009 4:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

fixed, good catch

by Jesse Holland on Feb 1, 2009 4:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bj needed vaseline for his ass, cause he got fucked hard! lol

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 4:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha c’mon all you hardcore BJ’s trash talkinkg fan crew ! What about this ? 4 rounds destruction for GSP, BJ did not back up is word. It was priceless

by Daddy Lupo on Feb 1, 2009 4:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I love how quick you ‘classy’ GSP fans are to jump in and start bashing BJ. PS… GSP was supposed to win this fight. He was bigger, faster and stronger. I would love to see where all you guys are at if and when GSP goes up in weight to fight Anderson Silva. You will all be making huge excuses for him.

I will be the first to admit I am probs the biggest BJ Penn ball washer. And tonight’s fight he ate his words and ate them hard. GSP DOMINATED. Period. But for you knumbskulls to say BJ should retire and that he is done just goes to show how ignorant you are. BJ is the best fighter at his weight class by far. If Anderson Silva went up a weight class and lost to Rampage or Evans would you all say he should retire? Or, as I said with GSP, when he goes up and gets KO’d in the first round by the bigger and faster Silva will you be calling for his retirement.

BJ is king at 155 and will stay like that for a long time. He ate his words tonight when he tried to do something that no one else in the UFC has ever done before. And when GSP’s hand was raised he clapped and was respectful. Those of you calling him a quitter and a coconut head just make you look as foolish as BJ does tonight. NAP!

by saigepsal on Feb 1, 2009 4:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You’re right, saigepsal, we shouldn’t. But remember, “our” boy was the target of “your” boy’s smack and profanity for the last 4 months, while GSP remained classy. So forgive us; we’re just a little pumped that Penn got the beatdown his ego deserved. He is still a serious threat in MMA.

by SilasM on Feb 1, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WELL SAID SIR.

by Bennie Blanco from the Bronx on Feb 1, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True, but Silva is too classy to talk sh*t, so people wouldn’t dump on him. No, BJ shouldn’t retire, but he deserves to humiliated a bit. No class whatsoever!

by SilasM on Feb 1, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who said we were classy. We just said GSP is and the BJ is trash. That’s still the truth. Deal….

by SilasM on Feb 1, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still think that the 3 best P4P fighters are Anderson Silva, GSP & Penn… but Penn at 155, GSP at 170 (we haven’t seen him at 185 yet) & of course Anderson Silva who I guess we will see fight GSP in a year or so… I just don’t believe you can critique Penn for his fights at 170 as much. He already doen’t have a whole lof of gas, making him go up to 170 is brutal.

GSP walk around at 190 pounds, when he fights Silva, I think it will be the same strategy used. We don’t see Silva in rounds 3, 4 or 5, GSP takes it there after every fight so it can easily be early stoppage by Silva or a fight of cardio that GSP will win.

This is MMA, no matter who fights, no one can ever b sure 100%. Who would of though Serra would KO GSP ? Who would of thought BJ Penn’s team would throw in the towel after all that trash talk…

Whatever it is, 2009 is gonna be an awsome year for MMA fans…

Penn vs Florian, GSP vs. Alves, Silva vs. GSP…Gawd Damn I love this sport!!!

by Neeko on Feb 1, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No way is BJ Penn top 3 P4P.

by Diceman on Feb 1, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Jones is a freakin animal !!!

by Neeko on Feb 1, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How does calling BJ a quitter make us foolish. After all he QUIT the fight. I agree with the coconut head thing because that is just childish and lame, and I have the upmost respect for BJ’s abilities as a fighter, but he did QUIT the fight. Still I would pick BJ over almost anybody not named Georges St. Pierre.

by Matt25 on Feb 1, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The difference is/will be that BJ trashtalked WAY too much. GSP (and Silva, for that matter) would not do that, no matter who the opponent. These two were my two favorite fighters and I was torn and tense the whole time. However, I did think BJ should have stayed away from so much talk, because it just leads to these situations

by jarutski on Feb 1, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

First off, BJ brought all of it on himself. Challenging GSP and talking smack for months was the worst thing he could have done. He can’t contain his own ego and ultimately he paid for it, and this isn’t the first time.

BJ is far from finished, if so then theGSP nuthuggers are right. He’s still the lightweight champion and his defense against Kenflo will determine what kind of person he is. He is still the overwhelming favorite and if he keeps his ego in check he’ll probably win very handily.

GSP is also not stupid. GSP is a great WW, and his ego iswell in check from preventing him to challenge Anderson Silva. GSP may havethe skill set and determination to give Silva a run, but he is severly at a disadvantage fighting at 185, Much like if ANderson Silva were to cut 15 pounds to fight george.

by liukangstoupee on Feb 1, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well i was wrong.i picked bj tko round 2.gsp was awesome a randyesque gameplan executed to a tee.hes definitely secured p4p no3 behind fedor and silva and now machida has come in at no4 above penn in my eyes.hes the best lhw in the world and if he beats another 2 top 5 lhws is closing in on p4p king!!

by scott on Feb 1, 2009 4:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

BJ GOT HIS ASS KICKED “TO THE DEATH” LOL

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 4:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah all BJ’s fans (myself very much included) are devastated that he didn’t bring it. He looked psyched out and that is the last thing I would have expected from the Prodigy. He is going to have to reflect on his whole approach to mma, because he didn’t bring his A game to the fight of his life.

But at least GSP settled the debate. He is the better athlete AND the better fighter.

by revjames13 on Feb 1, 2009 4:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate you all.. All of you… I will not be heard from for a while. I need a nap…

by Sp00ner1234 on Feb 1, 2009 5:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I LIKE PENN BUT GSP WON PLAN AND SIMPLY

by deebok on Feb 1, 2009 5:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought the next Fight Night is February 7th?

by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Feb 1, 2009 5:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It is.

by DSmith on Feb 1, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

GSP had a perfect plan and the ability to execute.

Greg Jackson figured out how to win against BJ. Now, I don’t think he is as mysterious as he was before. BJ knows this too. I wonder how this is going to affect his future. His ego must be in shambles.

Florian won’t have the strength of that GSP has so maybe he won’t we able to execute a similar plan.

Notice no post fight interviews? Don’t be surprised if BJ Penn disappears for a while.

by DubNub on Feb 1, 2009 7:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that too- I was curious what BJ would say. Would he still have told Firas to go f himself?

by justagirl on Feb 1, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who’s the bitch now BJ?!
Man, I am so pumped! GSP totally crushed BJ into giving up, and this makes all the bullshit BJ was saying about GSP having no heart make him look like an even bigger douche.
Damn, not only was I right about my boy Machida destroying Alves (again, Machida is the safest bet in the UFC, and 2nd safest in MMA right after Fedor), but I also got to see my favorite fighter show that hard work, dedication and humility are far more important than flamboyanty and trash talking.

Awesome 2 last fights! Good event all in all, with a GREAT finish! WAR ST-PIERRE!

by Raul on Feb 1, 2009 8:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He destroyed Silva not Alves. Give Machida his title shot now. Why are they waiting? Does Rampage deserve a shot before him? I don’t think so.

by jay on Feb 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Like all the GSP supporters, I’m thrilled at the result. From a personnal perspective, I’m thrilled that the class ast dominated the trash talker. This sport needs people it can be proud of both inside and outside the cage. Penn is still one of the most skilled fighters in the game and can own the LW division if he wants That said, he simply made himself look like a chump with all the trash take and profanity. Even if he won he I wouldn’t consider him a good ambassedor for MMA. GSP on the other hand awes people in the cage and inspires people out of it. Even if he had lost last night he would still be considered a class act. No one would be making fun of his performance this morning. The same cannot be said for BJ. Lastly, good trumps evil, class trumps hubris; all is right with my world.

by SilasM on Feb 1, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lyoto Machida = Bruce Lee

by rich on Feb 1, 2009 9:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not as fast but a lot bigger.

by GangOfOne on Feb 1, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love that connection to Bruce Lee and the JKD style of fighting passes the test of time as an exceptional form of self defense. The fighting spirit of Bruce Lee lives on in Lyoto Machida.

by MrFyer on Feb 1, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good job, GSP! Domination!

by GangOfOne on Feb 1, 2009 9:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think its time for bj to insert foot into mouth!!! probly gonna fit after gsp pounded his face for 3 rounds!! all im sayin is if your gonna talk that much smack, you better damn well back it up, and bj got owned!!

by dt on Feb 1, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone knows the name of thiago silvas entrance song ?

by Il Nino on Feb 1, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

“GSP is a quitter” – BJ “The Prodigy” Penn

“If you tap from strikes you’re a little bitch, that’s what I think” – BJ Penn

What do you call someone who does not appear to have a debilatating injury and quits on the STOOL?? Hell what do you call someone who is injured and quits on the STOOL?

BJ Penn, or BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ, has he has become known in the Mania forums quit on the stool tonight folks. Sure GSP got caught by Matt Serra, but everyone gets caught in MMA eventually don’t they say? One thing is for sure, they do not say that “everyone quits on the stool eventually”.

To BJ Penn, thanks for talking more trash than the glad man, and thanks for finally realizing you were badly out classed and tucking you midget tail between your legs when the going got tough. If I may i’d like to, on behalf of all the Mania contributors who have been pro GSP from day one, invite you go into your bedroom, take off your shoes, lie on your bed, and take about 20 or 30 minutes to go F*&$ yourself!!!

To that guy (I forget your name) who said “I’ve been training MMA for a few years now and trust me BJ Penn IS prodigy” you sounded like a fool then and you are a proven fool now.

Along with many others I said BJ Penn had less chance of winning tonight than he did three years ago and I said he would not win a round. Not only did Miss Hawaii not win a round but he did not win a single minute of that fight!!!

“GSP is an athlete he’s not a fighter. BJ is a born fighter” – Team Penn

I hope for your sakes you are seeing things a little more clearly now, afterall it would be a shame to think “The Prodigy” just quit on the stool after taking a pounding from a guy who is apparently not even a fighter.

On behalf of everyone that’s on the top side of Adam G’s list I have one more request for BJ Penn……

Pick on someone your own size!!!

by Hal on Feb 1, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This post was excellent Hal!

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even before the fight, I said GSP has the best chance of winning this fight, but I want BJ Penn to win because he can make history, holding 2 different belts in 2 different weight classes at the same time..I’m a huge BJ Penn fan and I can honestly say he shit talks a lot, but we’ve seen in the past that he can also back it up..You also must understand from a marketing perspective that BJ talks all that trash to hype his fights up..He knows how to market himself effectively and earns the big bucks for doing so ..He realized the magnitude of last nights fight and tried creating the greatest welterweight fight in the history of the UFC, you cannot disagree. GSP vs. Penn 2 is one of the greatest rematches in the welterweight division.

BJ needs to start training smarter, the time for partying is over, hes got too much raw talent to fade..His mental game has never been questioned, this dude moves up in weight just to fight the best, even at heavyweight, he fought against The Dragon in a ring. Penn still has more fights left in him, the question now is, is he willing to move to different camps to train..I love his Hawaiian pride and his devotion towards his family, but to be dominant in MMA, he needs to diversify his talents and focus on other disciplines than his superior BJJ and boxing..At 155 lbs i’ve said that Penn is a different monster..I don’t see him losing to Kenny Florian..Hal I’m interesting in hearing your analysis of the Penn Kenflo matchup.

by pride 4 ever on Feb 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also I forgot to mention, you can’t say BJ Penn is a quitter, arguments of GSP quitting in the Serra fight is very similar..GSP definitely tapped out due to strikes in that match..If you watched GSP’s interview on ESPN while he was sitting next to Mir after UFC 94, he stated that he doesn’t consider himself a quitter because he didn’t want to suffer “cerebral damage” getting pounded by Serra that could damage his fight career life span..He followed up by saying he rather tap out before suffering a broken arm or severe damage and come back even stronger.

BJ Penn took a beating, but he never gave up if you compare his scenario to GSP’s outcome in his fight with Serra..Penn didn’t tap, he would’ve went into the fifth round and taken more punishment before he would give up, the doctor ultimately ended the fight and influenced his corners decision. Say what you want, BJ came to fight and got outworked as a welterweight on the ground against GSP who has improved exponentially. He passed BJ’s guard numerous times, GSP right now is the most dominant welterweight and will continue to be dominant until he passes the torch down, just like Hughes did to GSP in their last fight..Hughes acknowledged GSP as the future of this sport.

by pride 4 ever on Feb 1, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with GSP’s take on tapping when you KNOW you are past the point of no return. Taking unnecessary damage that could be detrimental to your career is plain stupid (NOT heroic). It was the smart thing for BJ to quit, because he was DONE and GSP was fresh and would have really hurt him(KO). To many KO’s can turn a once good chin into Wandy’s chin. Just because JD gave the word, doesn’t let BJ off the hook. It sure looked like the doctor left it up to JD and JD was talking to BJ. Do you expect me to believe BJ told JD I’m ready to go so don’t you dare stop it. Sorry, I said my name was Billy Tucker, not Silly Fucker. You and everyone else who thinks BJ didn’t quit are only fooling yourselves. The only difference between the 2 of them quitting, is BJ now looks like a fool for not only calling GSP a quitter and a little bitch, but also HIMSELF.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did BJ do any post fight interviews at all?

I didn’t see any of him at all on UFC’s site.

by Jo on Feb 1, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

freddie roach this and freddie roach that. technique and fighting are evolving. what a great night to see jon, gsp and machida????

great night for those who despise those who disrespect! down goes silva – gsp humbled.

by TapedUpPair on Feb 1, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone seen a post-fight interview with BJ? I’d be interested in hearing his thoughts on the fight.

by Dugout on Feb 1, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I guess this explains it….Penn went to the hospital for precautionary symptoms from “getting his butt kicked,” Dana White joked.

by Dugout on Feb 1, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was disappointing to see that “performance” from BJ. It was like watching a damn rape or something. If Machida fights like he did last night more consistently, he’ll be damn near unbeatable. That was an incredible display of his skills and one of the most last second KO’s I’ve ever seen. I thought Kim won the first, Karo the second and Kim a close third round, disagreed with the decision. I’m hoping it’s not Guida’s new thing to hump his opponents into defeat, but it’s starting to look like it. He didn’t really do anything on the ground except hold on and not get submitted.

I’m ready to see how Alves fares against GSP—should be a helluva lot more entertaining than GSP/Penn 2.

by Dayman Fan on Feb 1, 2009 10:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Machida deserves the next title shot and I honestly can’t see anyone beating this guy anytime soon. Another guy that really impressed me is Jones, this guy has awesome takedowns and I would say probably one of the best in the UFC in that regard and this guy has only been training what 20 months…very impressive.

by rydinlow on Feb 1, 2009 10:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought the GSP-Penn and Machida bouts were very good, Machida definitely surprised me with the stoppage (I thought it was going to go boring decision like a Karo fight). As for the Karo fight, I can’t agree 100% on the decision, thought it was more a draw than anything, Kim had round 1, Karo round 2, round 3 was a draw in my mind, neither fighter did anything, but I thought Kim did more in that final round. Interesting to see who Guida fights next, I’d like to see that guy climb the ladder, definitely entertaining fighter to watch.

by Belisarius on Feb 1, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree with you on the Karo fight, should have been a draw. But Guida desperatly needs to learn to finish fights before he ever even thinks about contending for the belt.

by Matt25 on Feb 1, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hows the crow taste BJ, who’s the quiter now!!!!! You said GSP quit in the first fight but he came out and dominated you for the following 2 rounds. Did BJ even land a shot last night, that was one of the most one sided fights I have seen since Randy Beating Tito. Go back to your wieght class dude and quit talking so much shit, you got your ass handed to you last night.

by Spyder on Feb 1, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

(sorry for the lecture)

GSP / PENN
This is a great example of why we have weight classes. GSP came in at 170, probably at 6%-8% bodyfat (160 lbs of lean body mass) and BJ came in at 168 looking a little pudgy (18% bodyfat maybe = 138lbs lean body mass). That’s a 22lb difference. Sure, weight isn’t EVERYthing but at this level of competition it means quite a bit, otherwise you wouldn’t have weight classes, right? Aside from striking, weight and leverage can be effectively used to tire your opponent out, which was part of the strategy here.

I love both fighters so I found myself torn. I initially thought BJ could have won, but after watching PrimeTime I changed my mind. GSP just looked too big, too strong, too overwhelming.

It’s a sad day for BJ because I don’t believe he’s ever been this dominated. He seemed very off, after round 1 and I wonder if something got broken early on. Regardless, a big part of fighting is the mental game and so you wonder how this is going to play out. You know you got tamped but yet you’re still the Lightweight champion. This tends to erode your mental convictions a bit, about your unbeatability, supremacy, etc. Logically, he should be able to bounce back fully but BJ’s a fantatical warrior and he’ll be extra hard on himself. If he can come out of this, unscathed in his mental armor, he’ll come through and get back at it with guys his own size.

GSP looks relatively unbeatable for a while. It will take a big guy with a weird combination of skills to threaten him at 170. Thiago could get lucky but I think skill-wise, we’re going to see Thiago get put on his back continually (his weakest area) and get pounded out with some vicious elbows.

ABOUT GSP MOVING UP VS SILVA
Maybe GSP will rethink moving up after witnessing PENN’s failure. GSP’s a better fighter but why tarnish an otherwise perfect record to fight someone in another weight class. He and his camp aren’t stupid. There is something to gain moving up but I think there’s possibly even more to lose. Go out on top. Remember when Seinfeld went off the air? We all still wanted more and we weren’t left watching the slow cancerous death of a once great show. It’s about leaving a legacy. If he did it and won, WOW! I guess it’s one of those competitive things. It’s similar to how I feel about Liddell. He would have been better to stop 3-4 fights back but warriors seldom think these things through. It’s the difference between leaving the sport as a Mythical Creature or leaving as a “has-been” where people don’t even want to watch you fight because it’s too painful to watch you lose continually.

LYOTO MACHIDA
I thought, here we go, another snoozer. He impressed me last night. Knock out power, elusive (but not too retreating) and a strength that belies his body appearance.

STEPHAN BONNER
Whoaaa, he got worked by Jones, who could be the future of that division.

DONG HYUN KIM
He won; sorry Karo. Hopefully the decision can help Karo regain some of his confidence and get back on track so we can see the REAL Karo showing back up. But then again, maybe it’s time to consider moving down a division too if he could cut the baby fat? A ripped Karo in 155 could be very interesting.

DIAZ
Finally. Maybe now he’ll have a little more respect (doubt it). He could have won that fight if he had simply kept his distance and kept sticking those jabs. Oh well. Wonder if we’ll see his bro back in the UFC anytime soon…

by mmaju nkie on Feb 1, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who’s the quitter now???:D

by Arubian on Feb 1, 2009 10:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bj’s became Gsp little bitch

by Arubian on Feb 1, 2009 10:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

GSP’s game plan was basically to do what hughes did to BJ at WW: GNP then pass gard, then get the crucifix. There were times I felt like I was watching the same fight. KenFlo should have no prob taking out an aging BJ Penn.

so much for “to the death” you BJ nutthugers.

by Spitforce on Feb 1, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Florian is older than BJ BTW.

Age isn’tthe factor here, its how well BJ’s confidence can recover. If his fighting spirit is broken, Kenflo will win. If BJ recovers, his skillset will overwhelm Kenflo

by liukangstoupee on Feb 1, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bj has alot of words to eat. And I bet they tasted like pain as gsp was shoving down his throat!!

by Eatembj on Feb 1, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thiago Silva gave that fight away, what a dumb ass. Who just lays there when on the floor. He should have had his legs in Machida’s face and his arms covering his face. He needs to really evolve in his style of fighting or forget about beeing a chanp one day. I hope this loss gets him to think about it more. His standup game has to many holes in it. Why work on your ground game when your a bjj black belt. He needs to go to the jungle in Thailand for 6 months for some muy thai, then 6 months at striking unlimited. I really dont think American Top Team is doing anything for him. I would say Greg Jackson camp but theres already a lot of LHW’s there…..Maybe Mark Delagrotti?

Well at least Machida one both were my fav’s, its a win lose situation for me haha

by Danny_c on Feb 1, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

GSP dominates from beginning to end like a predicted. GO BJ, but to the hospital hahaha

by Danny_c on Feb 1, 2009 11:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

what do you guys think will happen with the lhw division?if ramapage wins he gets a shot straight away.but if he loses i see machida being used as a pawn because providing chuck beats shogun i see dana putting him in a rematch with jardine for a no1 contender match.if chuck wins title shot if jardine wins title shot for machida because they wont fight each other.they could still give machida the title shot but if chuck comes through hes got no chance against machida.call me paranoid but dana still wants to give chuck a shot at the belt!!!

by scott on Feb 1, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thats bull, no way Ramgage get a shot before Machida(he lost to Forrest), if that happens, I don’t think I will watch UFC anymore…I just don’t see anyone beating Machida in LHW divison (in the next 12months).. watch Evan will lose to Machida, 2nd Round KO.

Machida = Bruce Lee, Lyoto’s a master in Karate, so don’t think anyone can touch him including Fedor.

My deam match = Machida Vs Fedor or Anderson Silva Vs Fedor.

The winner granded the Best P4P in MMA…not GSP and all these other smaller guys, I bet you none all these 170 pounds guys will last more than 2mins with Machida…

by Machida on Feb 2, 2009 7:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope ((adamg)) is o.k, poor guy, I too would be devastated if gsp lost. I just about had a heart attack with the gsp/penn fight I was so nervous for gsp, and was very relieved gsp won, but was very surprised by the domination. I feel bad for all the penn fans, his girlfriend and his crew. Penn just talked way too damn much, I actually wished he never moved up and fought gsp, he would have really made a name for himself at lightweight. After such an embarrassing loss he really hurt his credibility, and like some one mentioned earlier shouldn’t speak gsp’s name again.

I think penn pissed off gsp, and a pissed off gsp is bad news, his only losses were guys he liked and he was nervous before the fights. To be honest I’m still a little bewildered at what happened last night, man you REALLY can’t go by last fights, Gsp has destroy everyone to date he had a rematch with. And for all those who guaranteed a penn victory I hope you learned your lesson, MMA is unpredictable.

I said it before, the winner of the fight was going to be the one who has improved the most and it was obviously gsp, also I think gsp had a good night and penn a bad night. Gsp IMO will be scary in a couple of years at the way he’s going, and I can see all the doubters in gsp coming back thinking he’ll lose to alves but like I said before gsp has surprised me everytime for the better except for the serra fight.

Gsp had a brillant game plan for penn and seems to really attack his opponents weakness’s, gsp is a very very strong welter weight and don’t be surprised if he outmuscles alves, size doesn’t alway mean strength. Keith jardine said gsp is STRONGER than most lightheavy weights and was taking rashad down, who I guarantee is more powerfull and a better wrestler than alves.

Its interesting that gsp and machida did exactly what they said they would do, gsp said he would take penn out and machida said he would ko silva, good forecast. To be totally honest I had no clue what to expect with the gsp/penn fight and gsp’s game plan was excuted to a tee. I think penn is too surrounded by yes men, who blow smoke up his ass, but I think at the end of the day gsp is too evolved for him now, bad idea for the rematch. So many thought all he needed was cardio and he had it in the bag, just going by there last fight, without any regard to how much gsp has improved.

((adamg)),the anomaly,upunishment sorry for your loss I know penn is your favorite and I hope he rebounds soon and kicks florians ass. And I also hope he learns to never underestimate his opponent and talk so much shit before a fight. The only reason I disliked penn was he talked so much shit about gsp and was too cocky. I hope he learned his lesson and comes back stronger and better than ever.

by nathan on Feb 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very compationate post Nathan, well said.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

GSP GSP GSP GSP GSP GSP GSP Ive been sating it all along there was no possible way Penn could have won that fight unless he won by cut stoppage. He looked absolutely terrible tonight, he didnt do one thing in the whole fight,, he came, he showed up, he got pounded on for 20 minutes,, he ate his words, he quit and now hes gone. Florian WILL beat him when they fight,, hes going to pick Penn apart and TKO him in the middle of the 5th round. Penn is done. He is just like the hughes, Titos and Chucks of the old day,, he is the same fight in a new MMA world. he has looked exactly the same in every single one of his fights, he hasnt improved anywhere. GSP will take down alves and ground and pound him in the 2nd and then will be silva in 3 TKO!!! Penn fans you deserve last night for all the shit talk the last 4 months! enjoy it and we ll talk again after Florian retires Penn

by jackel on Feb 1, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well the pudgy prodigy has learned a lessen in getting dominated by a more powerful GSP, BJ I hoped you will shut up and stay at 155 and try, I mean try to beat KenFlo. I predict KenFlo will be be the champ in 09 baby. GSP Rulessssss

by Bigmcmac on Feb 1, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just curious, was BJ Penn planning on hitting “the peeking phase” in round five???

I guess we’ll never know….BJ BJ BJ BJ hahahaha eat it suckers. Quits on the stool, shameful.

GSP

by Foamdome on Feb 1, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where are you, Adam G??? HAHAHAHA

by Lights Out on Feb 1, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

War Jake O’Brien at LHW

by GoColts on Feb 1, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I said it for 4 months. BJ is an outta shape Coconut head. He is to weak mentally and physically for GSP. I could not wait for last night, Coconut head did absolutely nothing! GSP is the GREATEST! BJ is a quitter!

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

To the death, lol. I dont think so cause you quit before that you coconut head! Team Hawaii, go back to your little island and surf bro, cause that all you guys got!

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Do you think the hospital staff baked a nice warm Humble Pie for BJ last night for his overnight stay?

by MMAwatcher13 on Feb 1, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL, Priceless.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone keeps saying BJ Penn is going to lose to Kenny Florian..BJ Penn is a natural 155 pound fighter, he won’t lose to Kenflo..Critics will say Penn is aging, but in fact Kenny is old, hes 32 compared to BJ, who is 30..Kenny definitely has evolved, but has not been in enough premier fights like BJ..BJ is a different monster at 155 pounds..Kenflo got murked by Sean Sherk and BJ dominated the muscle shark with better stand up..You can make the argument that Kenflo dominated Joe Daddy better than BJ, but Stevenson honestly fought with too much emotion against Kenflo in that fight, thats why he lost, he let the critics get to him..At 155 pounds, BJ Penn will be the favorite to bet on, I’m telling you.

by pride 4 ever on Feb 1, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

On a side note, BJ penn I believe is 9-1 as a lightweight. Toppling some of the most touted lightweights including Sean Sherk, Takanori Gomi when Gomi was in his prime, Joe Stevenson, Caol Uno and others. His only loss was to Jens Pulver and BJ beat him in that fight, Pulver tapped out but the ref didn’t see it before the bell rang.

by pride 4 ever on Feb 1, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dude getting beaten like this can mess you up mentally. I respect BJ and his skills but not everyone can recover a broken fighting spirit. Just ask Cro Cop.

by liukangstoupee on Feb 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also a point that needs to be made about the KenFlo vs. Sherk fight is that Sherk won by LNP. He out wrestled Kenny and BJ can’t do that. If BJ doesn’t get into a serious camp soon he might get outsmarted like he did against GSP.

by jay on Feb 1, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, BJ doesn’t exhibit great wrestling but has tremendous take down defense and is a BJJ World Champion..Florian loves the rear naked choke, he won’t catch or submit BJ Penn in their fight..BJ has to win the fight standing up utilizing his boxing and stuff Kenflo’s take down attempts..I do agree that BJ Penn should start training with various camps to open up his game more..He relies too much on his raw talent like Shogun..I just do not see Kenflo beating the Prodigy when they fight at 155

BJ needs to start training smarter, the time for partying is over, hes got too much raw talent to fade..His mental game has never been questioned, this dude moves up in weight just to fight the best, even at heavyweight, he fought against The Dragon in a ring. Penn still has more fights left in him, the question now is, is he willing to move to different camps to train..I love his Hawaiian pride and his devotion towards his family, but to be dominant in MMA, he needs to diversify his talents and focus on other disciplines than his superior BJJ and boxing.

by pride 4 ever on Feb 1, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BJ ARE YOU HAVING A SMOKE YET? AFTER SPENDING TIME IN YOUR ROOM F$%KING YOURSELF…GET RID OF THOSE BEER DRINKING BEACH BUMS YOU CALL A TEAM… THEY DROVE YOU TO THE GROUND…oH AND BJ YOU SURE HAD THAT SHRECK THING WORKING FOR YOU…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

by DAVE M. on Feb 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’ll learn you, you pudgy BITCH! Watch what you fuckin’ say!! Asshole.

by GodDamnMike on Feb 1, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey MANIA. Why are my posts deleted for stating obvious facts about BJ, but this guy can say that about him? I’ve read a lot of childish things like this since the fight, and I keep getting moderated?

by jay on Feb 1, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All I want to do is give props to Machida/GSP/Jones. I am just glad that this time around there was no controversy in GSP/Penn fight. Not to take anything away from GSP for I am a huge fan…but that definitely wasn’t the same Penn everyone is used to seeing. Maybe Penn just isn’t meant to be a welterweight anymore. Would like to see Jones fight against Thiago if he ever wakes up or someone of his caliber. Looked for real last night, but still needs to be tested. Bonnar is a good test, but his lack of competing hurt him I think. Looking to see Penn come back and destroy Florian.

by TBlades on Feb 1, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not to take anything away from BJ, but GSP definitly isn’t Pulver, Stevenson or Sherk. You can’t expect BJ to look like his normal self, just like Fitch and Hughes didn’t look so hot. GSP has an uncanny way of breaking the hearts of his opponents early in the fight by putting them in uncomfortable positions.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John——-BJ himself was not believed to quit. But when they showed the replay, his corner was doin the throat slash. Basically throwing in the towel. GSP nuthugger saying that BJ would have staggered out of his corner for round 5. That is just who he is.

GSP! No more mental lapses from here on out.

by raetsinner on Feb 1, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BJ Penn has bee so overrated for years. So what he was the BJJ worldchamp. That’s only one discipline of mma. He has decent boxing but every other aspect of is game is average and his record demonstrates that. He lacks the discipline and desire to get into professional fighting shape on a consistent basis. PLUS; the guy has a big mouth and can’t back it up. I guarantee Kenny Florian beats him in a unanimous decision.

by wesman on Feb 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I tried to tell all the bj fans that gsp simply had more ways to win this fight: he’s bigger, stronger, faster, a superior wrestler, has better stand-up (you seen the fight last night, Penn’s stand-up just looked great against Sherk because he had a huge reach advantage, and superior cardio. Peen’s only advantage was his bjj and his chin. I love watching both of these guys fight even though I don’t like BJ’s attitude (he got taught a lesson last night) but like I said imo GSP wins this fight 9 out of 10 times.
Alves looked huge last night and his stand-up and take down defense worries me, but if anybody can take him down it will be gsp.

Again I never figured out how all the BJ nuthuggers thought BJ could win this fight unless he pulled a miralce out of his ass in the first round. You guys deserved that one and if he doesn’t fight any better than that against Ken-Flo, he’ll get beat again. That being said, I hope he beats Ken-Flo because I just don’t like the guy at all for some reason. Maybe it’s because he got n the ring and screamed “I finish fights!!!”.

by brac on Feb 1, 2009 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

S the fight played out how I predicted on my blog(www.blog.fightersanonymous.com).It only turned out that GSP won and I was heartbroken.But my hat goes off to Gsp for being the better man that night.Bj needs to stop surrounding himself with yes men and train harder.

by Kweku on Feb 1, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I must say that BJ has a damn real good chin…i wish Thiago Silva had it…..I dont think Gsp will dominate Anderson Silva that easily…Yeah the fight is at 185 but the weigh in is a night before…Silva goes onto his fights weighing in at close to 200lbs…I can see him putting on 15 lbs overnight…Where as to GSP there is no weight cut. Silva will be way stronger.

by Danny_c on Feb 1, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

First, GSP is closer to 190. Second,without having to cut or stay within cutting weight it will be MUCH easier for GSP to add a few more pounds. Cutting puts the body in a catabolic state, not anibolic. Third, all of GSP’s weight is QUALLITY weight (fat is dead weight that only slows one down). Silva is lean,yet still isn’t ripped so he probably still has 5 lbs of fat on GSP. Lastly, whether Rashad, Jardine or any other much heavier guy GSP trains with is stronger, is debatable. The fact that GSP usually gets the upper hand at controling them with wrestling isn’t. Silva obviously has some advantages of his own, yet I doubt over powering GSP is one of them, nor will reach be much of a factor. If I remember correctly Anderson only has a 1 inch advantage.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

GSP is a different Fighter than he was a few years ago.

His Wrestling has reached an extraordinary level. He has evolved into a very physical, extremely skilled…Ground and Pounder.

He will contiue to dominate anyone at 170lbs including the
Pit Bull, Carlos Condit etc.

A Puncher’s Chance is the only thing his opponents
will have over the next several years.

Rashad Evans maybe the most under-rated fighter in the Sport.

I actually think Evans could beat Fedor. Styles make fights.

Evans vs Machida is a Super Fight!

I look forward to BJ Penn dropping back down to 155lbs and fighting Diego Sanchez.

Fighters I would love to see the UFC sign:

1. Fedor
2. Cung Lee
3. Frank Shamrock
4. Vitor Belfort
5. Robbie Lawlor

What is the Best Fight in the MMA right now?

by UFCvsBoxing on Feb 1, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think Rashad would have the best chance at Machida. He is very fast,sneaky and is great at not taking damage. The problem is Machida is maybe even faster, even sneakier and even better at not getting hit. I believe Rashad is under-rated, yet Machida is even more under-rated. Machida is a nightmare for anyone and it seems like everyone knows it. Not many calling him out and plenty avoiding him. The scary thing is he seems to be getting better and more aggressive.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed but Rashad is the best guy in LHW to bring the best out of Machida…and will difinately be a good fight…can’t wait

I think Machida has an advantage on his feets he’s moves are so different to your typical Muay thai & Kick boxer, I like how he changes direction went he attacks, thats why Silva had no answer for him, had nothing to offer, Silva pretty much look like a B-grade fighter against Machida.

by Machida on Feb 2, 2009 7:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never been so satisfied at the results of a fight. I still can’t imagine how anyone could think BJ had a chance in this fight. He deserved the beating he took.

If i’m a BJ fan, i’d be concerned over his ability to come back from such a beating. GSP ran right thru him, and with all the crap he talked leading up to the fight, his pride may be permanently wounded. My prediction for the LW division….BJ will attempt to defend, and ultimately lose the LW belt to Kenny Florian. Diego will run thru Joe Stevenson, and we’ll have an awesome rematch between KenFlo and The Nightmare for the LW belt…..remember you heard it here first.

by kg on Feb 1, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with everything you said. Every word.

by jay on Feb 1, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BJ Proved hes all mouth and zero heart. I am so glad that hula dancer got his ass kicked for 20 minutes! WOOOOOOOO!

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I got a new nickname for BJ Penn, in stead of the “Prodigy.” It should be the “Pudgy”, cause he looks like a butterball.

by Vince McMahon on Feb 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Give Machida the title shot. If the UFC fails to do so, I say boycott!!!

by PACO on Feb 1, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m in.

by jay on Feb 1, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is proof that BJ has been overrated for years! So what if he’s a world BJJ champ. That is only one aspect of mma. His boxing is ok, but every other aspect is average. His work ethic is below average; taking 5 days off training 3 weeks before the biggest fight of his career? I guarantee Kenny Florian beats him by unanimous decision!

by wesman on Feb 1, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

First off gsp won which was expected he the bigger n stronger fighter penn belongs at lw machida a fuckin bum who has he fought dat was honestly top 10 rampage will kill machida evans will kill machida as for gsp im lookin 4ward to the spider breakin his ugly canadian face

by loc on Feb 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

whoa….who did what and wear?

by ndnman on Feb 1, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m a penn fan and to see him lose like that was a tough pill to swallow. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves and think that everyone though that he would roll thru GSP.. In fact its the exact opposite. He had a good chance of losing from the get go, and it was all pride from a fan standpoint. He deserves the shit talking from everyone, but some of you fools talkn shit about hawaii as a whole should shut the fuck up. I bet all the money in my bank account that most of you fools don’t even know what a basic armbar is and haven’t even ruybbed ur pretty faces on the mat. Prolly jus lazy boy MMA fans, equal to the typican fat boys who talk sports all day but never played a sport in their life. Props to GSP, as many DON’T know that he’s is one Hawaiis favorite fighters aside from Penn. So talk your shit people, but keep the shit talkn to BJ and not his fans from Hawaii

by justo on Feb 1, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

In all fairness I don’t think it was the opposite and you just have to look at all the 1st and 2nd round destructions predicted on Adam’s Penn list to see it. It’s human nature to say I told you so, people like to be right and it sucks to be wrong. Considering how huge this fight was and how long the debate when on, I think the GSP fans comments have been rather mild and very FEW directed towards BJ fans. No disrespect to BJ fans, but I think it would be a whole different story if the tables were turned. I’m sure I would hear Adam G gloating for months and even throw a few personal attacks my way, while I’m mearly feeling bad for the guy. However if I do glance back at some of the things he said, I may change my mind,lol. All is fair in love in war, quite simply don’t make any statements you aren’t prepared to hear about if you are wrong.

by Gord on Feb 1, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree Gord!

by ndnman on Feb 1, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Penn was gonna dominate. Congrats to St. Pierre!

by Jon on Feb 1, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BJ’s pudgy coconut head repeatedly bouncing off the mat was the funniest part of the evening. Oh, and I guess "to the death" really means "to the end of the fourth" or "to the point that I get tired or my face hurts".

"Don’t piss me off Georges, I’m serious…". Yeah. Seriously disappointing. After all that smack talk, BJ should have answered the final bell and took his beating like a man. He’s the one who wanted this fight so bad. Cabbage patch coward.

It’s time to stick a fork in BJ’s deformed potatoe head and get on with the Superbowl.

A bloody Stool quitting on the stool!! Too funny.

by Jeremyjackson on Feb 1, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nokimono take ur tongue out of BJ’s ass how can you say the vaseline played a part in the fight….Bj barely even tried for a submission he just tried to cover up probably begging himself not to quit…pity for that.

John you are the main man on this website and i love reading what you write but come on the doctor was looking at BJ – Bj wudnt even look back then there was a bit of talking and BBjs coach called it off and Bj didnt even flinch in protest – thats quittin and if you dont believe this is quittin…then you have to believe that BJ quit during the match he could barely respond there was no intensity to his game no fire in his eyes.

I am a great fan of the quote:

“Fatigue makes a coward of us all” (Lombardi) – BJ is living evidence!

Although i loved that Bones Jones comparison to Rumble Johnson I was thinking the same thing the entire fight and please dont say MACHIDA should get nxt title shot…our boy Rampage may never get it back…hopefully he will stay clear of the energy drinks if this is the case haha!

by Randy for Couture on Feb 1, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa i just seen a comment by Loc – how wrong can you be firstly Rampage would not kill MAchida and trust me i consider myself to be theeee ultimate Page fans ( i even have a chain from a motorbike which cost me £55 exactly like his which i bought to wear every time he fights – ino extreme) lol MAchida as sad as i am to say it would probably win a decision altho it may be a 50/50 over Rampage due to him dodging Page’s haymakers and probably utilizing the leg kick (Pages weakness).

Also i thinks its a bit silly to call Gsp ugly…i mean the guy’s the poster boy of the UFC and has probably got more lady offers than uve got hot meals! haha im just playin!

by Randy for Couture on Feb 1, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OLAY OLAY OLAY OLAY! GSP! i only got my internet fuly fixed an hour ago and couldnt w8 to get on this to rip into BJ! oh and before i start
I WON about £300 on my bets on gsp machida fitch guida karo jones and tavares…boom!
I have lost all respect for BJ as a fighter and a man!
firstly how the fuck was he so slooooooowwww??? even in Round 1.
Neways PENN SAID HE WOULD FIGHT TO THE DEATH!….pity the punk quit sittin on his ass and if you even dare try to say it was his trainers who called it…BJ didnt even try to put up a case to let the fight continue.
The fact that he is now complaining about this vaseline non sense which is a crystal clear mistake is pathetic although rules are rules so to be 100% legitimate the athletic commission must look into it and punish GSP if neccessary but thats just a legal matter as we all know it had no effect on the fight so hopefully there ar eno reprecussions!
Instead of wastng time complainng he should be apologizing to the world for calling GSP a quitter and talking so much shit and lies when he could clearly not back it up.
he said GSP tapped during the 1st Matt Serra fight…well maybe he did quit physically but BJ quit mentally last night and because of him talking all the shit hyping this fight and then he couldnt even touch GSP im am sorely disappointed and even though i never liked BJ’s attitude and i only enjoyed watching him …I now despise him and hope Ken Flo can musker a miracle and beat BJ into retirement.
thats all the hatred out of my veins..haha

P.S. Machida = Wow I was in love with him before the fight and now FINALLY all you guys who have been hating on Lyoto’s brand of ‘boring’ fighting can eat your words and appreciate his skill because at the end of the day Machida doesnt come out all guns blazing – he waits, times and then if there is an opening he takes it and if it is a large opening he finishes a la last night! …but please Let my boy Rampage have 1st crack at Evans cus once Machida gets his shot I cant see anybody being able to beat him!

Thanks UFC gr8 card i kinda had tears in my eyes when GSP won the fight….the good honest hard worker prevailed (reminded me of that story about the lazy squirrel and the hard working squirrel who kept working to get nuts for the winter) lol

by Randy for Couture on Feb 1, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OLAY OLAY OLAY OLAY! GSP! i only got my internet fuly fixed an hour ago and couldnt w8 to get on this to rip into BJ! oh and before i start

I have lost all respect for BJ as a fighter and a man!

firstly how the fuck was he so slooooooowwww??? even in Round 1.

Neways PENN SAID HE WOULD FIGHT TO THE DEATH!….pity the punk quit sittin on his ass and if you even dare try to say it was his trainers who called it…BJ didnt even try to put up a case to let the fight continue.
The fact that he is now complaining about this vaseline non sense which is a crystal clear mistake is pathetic although rules are rules so to be 100% legitimate the athletic commission must look into it and punish GSP if neccessary but thats just a legal matter as we all know it had no effect on the fight so hopefully there ar eno reprecussions!

he said GSP tapped during the 1st Matt Serra fight…well maybe he did quit physically but BJ quit mentally last night and because of him talking all the shit hyping this fight and then he couldnt even touch GSP im am sorely disappointed and even though i never liked BJ’s attitude and i only enjoyed watching him …I now despise him and hope Ken Flo can musker a miracle and beat BJ into retirement.

thats all the hatred out of my veins..haha

P.S. Machida = Wow I was in love with him before the fight and now FINALLY all you guys who have been hating on Lyoto’s brand of ‘boring’ fighting can eat your words and appreciate his skill because at the end of the day Machida doesnt come out all guns blazing – he waits, times and then if there is an opening he takes it and if it is a large opening he finishes a la last night! …but please Let my boy Rampage have 1st crack at Evans cus once Machida gets his shot I cant see anybody being able to beat him!

Thanks UFC gr8 card i kinda had tears in my eyes when GSP won the fight….the good honest hard worker prevailed (reminded me of that story about the lazy squirrel and the hard working squirrel who kept working to get nuts for the winter) lol

by Randy for Couture on Feb 1, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

In Alves’ recent win over Josh Koscheck on Oct. 25 in Chicago, he went into the cage at an unheard-of 199 pounds after making 171, which would make St. Pierre the rare smaller welterweight if Alves could do it again.

by deebok on Feb 2, 2009 3:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

sori i didnt mean to type that twice …my bad

by Randy for Couture on Feb 2, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was for Penn, but he got blasted, GSP was above and beyond in skills and the ability to pass that half guard, looked just too damn easy.

Jon Jones???? Who was that!!!! holy cow, can’t wait to see more of him. and only 21 years old.

by The Slovak on Feb 2, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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