UFC 94 fighter salaries and paydays for 'St. Pierre vs. Penn2'

Man, BJ didn’t even show up to his after party at 54 after so many people flew out of hawaii to see him especially during these economic times. Even wand showed up after getting torched by Rampage. (He wasn’t in the hospital according to the story on themmanews)

He went to the hospital. I’m from Hawaii and have a lot of friends who went to vegas for this one. I heard on the news that he was at the hospital and could not attend the party.

—Lemme just VENT right quite, as I am absolutly devastated and depressed, it is hard to watch your idol get smashed upon, it really is.
—It would have almost been better if Penn just got knocked out real quick, cuz thats just one hole in his game, one area of mistake GSP was able to beat him at, but no, GSP got him EVERYWHERE.
—Penn didn’t even show up, he pulled a BIG NOG in my opinion, not taken anything away from GSP or sayin he wouldn’t have won anyway, but god damn, that should have been a war, not a slaughter. I mean, Penn stuffed the take down a whole freakin round, then as soon as GSP got it Penn was like, “aw fuck it, cant stop it, might as well not even try”. Same with guard passing, Penn is a black belt, all he did to defend the pass was put his hand on GSP’s hip to stop him and thats it, freakin blue belt shit doesnt Penn have more than that? And while on the ground, where were all the stand up attempts like fight one? I didn’t see him push off GSP’s hips with his feet not even ONCE. No distance made, no attempts to get up. When he was up, where were all his strikes!!?? Like Joe, like Pulver, like GSP in the first fight, Penn comes right out and threw some kind of combo right away, aggressive and wastes no time. What the hell, he threw like 4 punches.
—So am I just blinded by bias and depression, or can somebody please tell me that at least a little bit of Penn I know was missing last night???

. . . Sorry bro. no words as well.

I think more GSP showed up than you expected, rather than less BJ. GSP said BJ would know right away that he wasn’t the same guy he fought before. I think Penn thought he was better and only lost the first fight because of cardio, but BJ should have realized that he stopped dominating that fight long before he gassed and he was only dominant when GSP couldn’t see. Penn wasn’t the only one that got completely dominated. GSP changed after he got humiliated by Serra and he mowed everyone over that has got in his way since. GSP now makes it a point to make a guy pay every single time he goes for a sub. He did it to Serra, Fitch and now BJ. I might be mistaken ,but I pretty sure GSP said it was his plan to not take BJ down right away because then it would be a straight BJJ match. He wanted to wear him out a bit first. GSP also said he broke Penn in the first round,that’s hard to hide, you can see it in ones eyes. I’m not trying to be a prick, just giving my honest opinion. I think alot of people were expecting a war that was never possible. GSP has improved so much since 58 and even that fight GSP controled the majority of it when he got his vision back. Now GSP is much better at inflicting damage while he has that control. I know it’s the same old crap I’ve been saying for the past 6 months, but that’s all I got,that’s the way I see it. Anyhow lets hope BJ comes back strong and we can do it all over with Kenny.

I could tell BJ had been crying right before he came out from backstage. You can tell when BJ gets all emotional like when he won the WW belt from Matt Hughes and i think after he beat stevenson. I told the people at my house, and i still believe that BJ truly thought he would win and was emotional at the thought of being the only guy who held two belts at once in UFC history. I think he may have had an emotional energy dump backstage right before the fight and that may have led to his downfall.

BJ didn’t have an off night GSP is just a different fighter than the first time they fought. Penn is a great fighter and the best 155er in the world but GSP is just better at every aspect of fighting than BJ and hes much stronger and has better cardio, so BJ could fight him 100 times and he’d lose 100 times. GSP has imrpoved leaps and bounds from their last fight BJ has improved slightly.

Anamoly- i remember when Big Nog lost i was pissed off and snarky towards everyone for most of the next week. But as far as GSP, from the moment it was announced i just didn’t see anyother way the fight would play out. The overconfidence didn’t help either. If GSP can burn out fitch, there isn’t anyone else he can’t do that to. GSP4Prez is dead right on the money.

JRE, I thought BJ was tired from lack of sleep due to anticipation of this fight. He had bags under his eyes and looked nervous, not fresh n’ confident like his fights at 155lbs, nervousness is an energy killer. I didn’t like the extra weight he carrying either, which is another issue that tells me he couldn’t have possibly been in the best shape of his life. All that aside, an undersize BJ was no match for a mature and improved GSP and never will be even on his best day.

I was a member of Team Penn….as soon as I saw the way BJ looked when he made his enterance….Iknew that he had no chance!

JRE made an amazing point, I thikn his emotions could have caused an energy dump. Oh well, he gopt dominated any way I try to spin this thing.

I take my losses like a man. Great performance by GSP!

GSP4PREZ, GSP is not better than BJ at every aspect.

GSP is NOT a better boxer than BJ.

In straight up BJJ, GSP is not better than BJ.

Other than that thought, GSP got him beat in everything else.

HEY JOHN, never too early to start thinking how to win back to BJ money. How about a Lauzon/Cain parlay for fight night? $100 wins like $70 or so. I might play it SUPER safe at that event and just risk $120 on Cain to win $20. It should be a guaranteed $20. Anyone know anything about his opponent? I haven’t even “googled” him yet.

J-lau and Cain are great bets! If either lose, then I dont know anything about this sport!

i will be back, betting with a vengeance!

GSP does not drink alcohol, or so he said on PrimeTime.

I don’t think Anderson could beat Machida. Machida is like a ghost who you only see (or should I say feel)appear every once in a while when your eating leather. They train together, so I’d imagine they have a pretty good idea who would get the upperhand. To bad they will never fight. Befriending someone in your own weight class should be banned,lol.

Machida obviously made a huge rise in the P4P rankings but I still have Anderson as No. 1, although the gap between him and GSP is about as wide as a fingernail. In a fight between Anderson and Machida, I think Anderson would win just because he’s so dynamic with his striking that if anyone could pick Machida apart it’s him. And I also have Rampage ahead of Machida on my rankings because I think the power of Rampage would suffocate Machida, take him down and gnp him.

LOL ….

I don’t know if it was his conditioning that was as big as an issue as him using a cheap mouthpiece. When the ref went over to his corner in between rounds his cornerman said something about it being a bad mouthpiece that wasn’t staying in well. Joe Rogan commented on it too.

bj didnt show anything in this fight… what makes you think hed do any better next time around?

They are 1-1 (referring to hughes/penn)

the shot wasnt at americans, i live in canada and am under the same system essentially, more of a small shot at capatilism, but i see your point. fair enough

Oh, I might have misinterpreted. No offense meant, all good.

thats all good chefdaddy, i threw a bit of politics in an mma rant.

hehehe, I’ve been known to do that as well!

you are right, dana should use the same pay structure model that elite and affliction uses. or maybe we should comapare the ufc to say baseball where middle relief pitchers who face 5 batters a week, have a 5 and 5 record with an era of 4.75 and make 5 mill a year. kinda like a karo or guida types. you know the ones who arent elite but will fill in cards. which side will you be on when you pay $75 for a PPV? what about when affliction goes down, will it have anything to do with the high salaries they are paying? no it wont have anything to do with that. do you have any idea how many more staff there is in making an event like this fly? i dont but im sure its alot. or maybe those background guys get paid in tapout t shirts and free beer for the night.

LOL, come on Egads, are you telling me that paying the lower down fighters a living wage would significantly increase the UFC’s overhead. Seriously? If these boys were paid, say, $15,000 a fight and fought 2 to 3 times a year they would just survive given the cost of training. The UFC would still be able to cover the cost with the live gate alone; they wouldn’t even have to touch the PPV revenue.

another part of the problem contributing to pay structure is sponsorship of the UFC as a whole. bear in mind, mma isn’t even sanctioned in all the states yet. that should tell you that this thing is still pretty fringe. harley davidson and bud light aren’t paying the UFC the same as they would another sport.

true, i see that maybe the bottom end guys could be paid a wee bit more. its just that plenty of people think 40g to show for some is too low. as a tradesman with almost 2 journeyman tickets i had to pay my own way through both courses in another town, pay for my own tools, gloves boots and all and still got paid crap wages when i started out. its a fact of life for most of society i just dont understand why celebrities get put on pedastals. im a fan of plenty of these guys but if they dont like it they can leave and i wont miss them, they will get replaced. if another company can make it work while still paying all these big wages, then good for them, that is capatalism (that isnt meant to be a dig :) )

“should use the same pay structure model that elite and affliction uses”???
 you mean the elite that burned through a whole stack of money and toppled? If the talent starts leeching too much money there won’t be any room to expand. This sport is in its infancy and look at all the casualties so far. I’d rather see dedicated athletes like the olympians who make even less… rather than the overpaid children playing baseball and football.

did you read past my first sentence?

Agreed, $40000 to show may be too much for a lot of guys. I still say $15000 is doable.

And almost all fighters get that much, or well over 15k. 3 fighters out of 20 on this card didnt make 15k, and they are all new to the UFC.

lol, i wanna see Penn say he still fighting before i spend another second of my time on him, then we’ll talk. . . BJ BJ BJ!!!

lol sounds like a good plan!

But even tho his ego has taken a hit i’m sure he’ll continue fighting as long as he is the LW Champ.

Time will Tell

WAR STEELERS!

sorry bout the loss AdamG….tough one to swallow for ya I bet…on the bright side he’s got a well deserved belt at 155….can’t blame the guy for trying :)