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Freddie Roach: Lucky punch from Fedor floors cocky Arlovski at Affliction

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"[Andrei Arlovski] made a young man's mistake. It was too easy for him. He was winning the fight handily I thought, controlling the fight like we planned. He got a little cocky, and he tried the flying knee from too far away, no setup, and he paid for it ... Fedor swings hard, that's his thing. He probably had his eye closed, but he just got lucky, I think. If we had followed a more disciplined fight, and kept to the game plan, I think it was going to be easy."

Freddie Roach -- who has raved about the boxing skills of his pupil, Andrei Arlovski, heading into his superfight against WAMMA Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko at Affliction: "Day of Reckoning -- talks about what went wrong last night. "The Pitbull" was knocked out cold by the cornered and very dangerous Russian cyborg in the first round while attempting a flying knee. Roach chalks it up to youthful inexperience and a little bit of luck. Perhaps Emelianenko should have used better technique and fought more like a man. That way, maybe, he wouldn't now be eating crow or having to cough up $5,000 to M-1 Global's Gary Millen in a sidebet.

Photo courtesy of Arlovski.com.

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OoOoO cry about it your guy lost get over your self FEDOR RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by wow to all the fedor haters on Jan 25, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

it was a lucky punch

by matthew on Jan 25, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

head down, eyes closed, wild swing. that’s the definition of a lucky punch and that’s exactly what fedor did.

you can tell by all of the entries today that mania has fedor’s nuts firmly in his mouth. hey mania, how taste his pee pee?

by jj on Jan 25, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

lvp, hall of shame member

by roy on Jan 25, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you guys ever read any of the debates about “lucky” punches?

by chefdaddy on Jan 25, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

His eyes weren’t closed. He perfectly timed AA

Roach has an excuse for everything. He’s a queer; DLH lost to PBF and he blamed Oscar, now he blames ‘lucky punches’

by R/p on Jan 25, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Like Fedor said, it was pure an instinctive blow … automatic response to a flying knee. I would have liked to see the fight go into the deeper rounds – fuck Fedor is good.

by DownUnder on Jan 25, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

JJ!!! Andre ’Glass Jaw ’ Arlovski got another beat down by the best. Those who found holes in Fedors fight are just looking for an excuse as they are just as big of loser a AA and freddie. They could talk the talk but once again Fedor shut them up!! Hes the best, believe it until he gets beat which will be never!! but all u h8rs are just jealous, u all wish your fav fighter was half s good as him!!

by MMAKilla on Jan 25, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Glass jaw indeed. Fedor’s punch wasn’t lucky. AA made a mistake. Before that point he was handing Fedor butt whooping on a plate. AA exposed huge holes in his game and looked a little desperate which I’ve never seen. In the end, Fedor obviously won, so the debate is pointless. It’s also pointless to not recognize that Fedor will lose at some point.

by the matt king on Jan 25, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

haha~ freddie must be smoking something.

he cant just accept that fedor is the king of hw mma.

lets take a look at all the hw that have won the ufc hw title.

in order the fighters go as such~

UFC 12, February 7, 1997 Mark Coleman. [beat by FEDOR]
UFC 14, July 27, 1997 Maurice Smith.
Ultimate Japan, December 21, 1997, Randy Couture.
UFC 20, May 7, 1999 Bas Rutten.
UFC 23, November 19, 1999 Kevin Randleman. [beat by Fedor]
UFC 28, November 17, 2000 Randy Couture.
UFC 36, March 22, 2002 Josh Barnett. [Fedors next victim]
UFC 39, September 27, 2002 Ricco Rodriguez.
UFC 41, February 28, 2003 Tim Sylvia. [beat by FEDOR]
UFC 48, June 19, 2004 Frank Mir.
UFC 51, February 5, 2005 Andrei Arlovski. [beat by FEDOR]
UFC 59, April 15, 2006 Tim Sylvia.
UFC 68, March 3, 2007, Randy Couture.
UFC 81, Feb 2, 2008 “Minotauro” Nogueira. [beat by FEDOR twice]
UFC 91, November 15, 2008, Brock Lesnar.
UFC 92, December 27 2009, Frank Mir.

~ there has been 12 different hw champs in the history of the ufc.

fedor has beat 5 of them and will most likely have 6 after barnett.

and u cant sit here and tell me~ smith,ricco or randy could even come close.

~also note that aa and sylvia combined had the hw belt for about 3 years

and fedor just beat them back to back.

fedor has to be considered the best hw mma fighter on the planet.

say word!

by stinky~fingers on Jan 26, 2009 5:40 AM EST up reply actions  

great post stink!!!

by McArthur on Jan 26, 2009 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Arlovski walked right into that appropriately placed counter punch. Why would Arlovski try something like that so early in the fight and why try it against Fedor period. He should have focused on outpointing Fedor and not try to knock him out. If you ask me it was all Freddy Roaches fault with all the talk about how AA was going to knock Fedor out. If AA would have stuck to his game plan maybe he would have beat Fedor.

If you watch the Babalu v Fedor fight you will see Babalu outpoint Fedor for a lot of the fight. Fedor obviously ended up winning but that is one of the more controversial wins that Fedor has in my opinion. That is what you have to do to beat Fedor. You try something flashy and you will end up losing and losing quickly. If you watch the fight from Saturday again Fedor was throwing a punch even before AA started the flying knee but Arlovski jumped right into it. The punch was nothing more than a perfectly timed counter punch. AA paid for it. I would have loved to see a 5 round war between those two. I am hoping for a rematch.

by MMAFan1981 on Jan 26, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

wow fedor fought babalu, maybe you should rewatch that one

by roy on Jan 26, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

great post Stinky!

Dana bashes all of Fedor’s opponents. After Dana had the ballz to force feed tim Sylvia down our throats as UFC HW champion for yeARS….FEDOR BEATS HIM AND dANA TRASHES HIM…saying Tim sucks…Whats that say about the UFC hV division then dana?

It will be interesting to what Dana says about this past Fedor fight because Dana loves Arlovski and thinks the world of him. its well documented that Dana said out of all the fighters that left the UFC, Arlovski was the only one that Dana didnt want to lose. Now whats he going to say after AA got KO’ed in mid air, and took a head 1st NOse dive into the ground, laying there OUT COLD!!! That wasnt a TKO tyhat came from a punch followed by 5 punches while AA was rocked on the ground..That was a 1 punch KO, in which AA couldnt even move afterwards…Damn that was impressive. It really looked like Fedor smacked him across the face with a Brick.

Im sick of this Twitchy Idiot Roach, if you arent going to respect mma, its fighters and the different arts that make up an mma fighters arsenal…THen F off, and go back to the dying sport that is Boxing!

by john on Jan 26, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

its refreshing to read posts from people who know what the hell thier talking about

word!

by dia mette on Jan 26, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucky punch, I doubt that homey..Anything can happen in MMA, and your boy the Pitbull got exposed once again..Rizzo exposed his chin, Sylvia exposed his chin, and the last Emperor destroyed it ..Freddy Roach is a joke for saying it was a lucky punch..Pitbull threw his flashy flying knee and payed for it..It was his spontaneous game plan that led to his downfall..Yea Arlovski seemed to be winning the fight but who WON the fight, Fedor #1..I would love to see a rematch..All the critics love to talk smack because he is the greatest MMA fighter of all time

by pride 4 ever on Jan 25, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

lol it doesnt matter how fedor won, people are always gonna say he was lucky or have some excuse… i bet if he beat arlovski up for 5 rounds thered be some nonsense

by brendan on Jan 25, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Roach boy.. go cry me a river!

Forever FEDOR!!!

Now AA can co sign that too.

by PhilQNY on Jan 25, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

that was a very lucky shot. Fedor threw a prayer and got LUCKY! he head was down and eyes closed.AA will not make the same mistake again.

by SluggerCitySoldier on Jan 25, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

just watched it again (PVR) in mega slow mo….eyes open all the way

by McArthur on Jan 25, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

dude his chin is in no way suspect if you could have taken that punch then try it.. go learn science bro when 2 objects moving forward collide it more then doubles the power behind it.. now add fist to jaw which one do you think is gonna win that battle? it was LUCKY if he misses hes falling on his face from the momentum hes carrying, nothing away from fedors power because its there he has lack of skill in technical boxing but a whole lot of power

by randy murders on Jan 25, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree it was lucky

i was impressed by affliction i wasnt keen on the first card they put on but everything seemed to be better this time around… i hope it has a long reign in mma if this is the sort of show its going to put on every time

belfort looked MEAN!!! i was impressed

barnett and yvel was a very good fight and fedor’s knockout was sweet although lucky

by ufcaddict on Jan 25, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Roach…..“I think, it was going to be easy”. U f#%kin’ idiot. It’s Fedor, not kermit the f#%kin frog!! What an ass…..

by allamerican on Jan 25, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Its bad enough with a lot of you guys before the fight saying AA is going to upset Fedor but it just sounds pathetic trying to justify what happened last night as a fluke or a lucky punch.

His eyes are NOT closed and he fully intended to land that punch. It was so perfect and you just cant take it. Ive watched the fight in high quality in depth over 20 times and Fedor was doing just fine and just because AA glanced a couple of punches off Fedor and had a better boxing stance you say he was dominating him in the stand up. Fedor is not always super aggressive and he likes to sometimes stay on the outside and make people commit then he couters and takes advantages of other peoples mistakes. That is his style. He caught him off balance when he kicked him back into the corner and Fedor just stepped in and nighty night. Andrei would lose virtually everytime as Fedor has so many ways to win the fight while Andrei only has his hands.

Damn Fedor fought him at HIS strength and and he still got KTFO. Fedor knows he still has things to improve on and thats what is scary cos he is already head and shoulders above the competition.

Get over it and just admit he is the best HW ever and probably the best fighter ever in this sport to this day. He is not perfect as noone is but one thing he does do right all the time is walk away the victor (not counting that controversial loss).

by Ca$z on Jan 25, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucky punch?? And I guess you’d also say that when Randleman flipped Fedor on his head and when Fujita corked him, that it was lucky he went on to sub them both about a minute later? He was in “trouble” in both those fights but clearly won. Who’s to say that Fedor wouldn’t have beaten A.A. senseless just 30 seconds later?! Fedor has an uncanny ability to win…regardless of his position on the scorecard at the time.

by Dugout on Jan 25, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

by Robert(1) on Jan 25, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is anyone on here preocupying any of their time worrying about what Dana thinks about Fedor?

by RedDog on Jan 26, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasent lucky, He KNOCKED HIM OUT SO NICE I NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY.

by Il Nino on Jan 25, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If the queen had balls, she’d be king

by mazegati sucks on Jan 25, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think I an ever call a punch lucky. It just landed as clean as it gets. Winners find a way to win.

by DJ on Jan 25, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yea, i actually like freddie, but this was unnecessary. I wouldn’t call it a lucky punch, but freddie is used to bigger gloves in boxing and u don’t see one punch ko’s like that very often. big men + tiny gloves = it only takes one

by Crowls on Jan 25, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I love AA just as much as anyone of you on here.. but if someone is swinging at you and trying to hit you. and catches you… it is not a lucky punch.

by belfort_fan on Jan 26, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Fedor got lucky. That’s why he has a 26 fight win streak. You may not like him but face it. He is the best fighter in the world right now.

by brandongk4 on Jan 25, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Arlovski won’t make the same mistake again but rest assured he will make some mistake and he’ll pay for it and once again you’ll all cry about it.

by brandongk4 on Jan 25, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I still can not say he is the best fighter in the world. He HAS NOT fought the BEST HWs in the world. And untill he does he will still rank under guys like Miguel Torres and Anderson Silva. Those two guys have fought the BEST fighters in their divisions. He might be the best pound for pound but in my mind he still ranks under those 2 fighters(and maybe GSP).

by iagoof22 on Jan 25, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Which of the best heavyweights does he have left to fight? He may not be the best fighter in the world, but that statement isn’t entirely true unless you meant he hasn’t yet cleaned out the division of all the top heavyweights (which is technically true.)

by bishop7 on Jan 25, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Not fought the best HW’s. You sir are a joke. No matter what he does there will always be someone like you doubting him.

If you say that then how can you say Anderon has fought the best when he still hasn’t fought Gegard Mousassi or Jacare or Demian Maia or Cung Le etc etc. BJ cant be the best either then as he hasn’t fought Aoki or Alvarez or Calvacante etc. The only people Anderson has fought since joining the UFC worth a mention is Franklin, Henderson and maybe Marquardt. UFC nuthuggers just want to believe the hype they sell you in their promotion.

There will always be someone that could possibly beat anyone and thats why we watch MMA and anticipate who would do the best against the greatest out there. The only difference is Fedor has beaten everyone so far when they were at the top of their game and is still UNBEATEN which you cannot say at all for Anderson or BJ who both have multiple losses.

Fedor is the greatest bar none and I dont see that changing any time soon.

by Ca$z on Jan 26, 2009 6:15 AM EST up reply actions  

GREAT POST Ca$Z!!!! I am completely on BOard!

by john on Jan 26, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How predictable! Maybe they should have taught AA to actually put something behind his punches.

Gimme a break, Fedor is known for exposing his opponents’ weakness. It was a matter of time and if it did not happen right then it would have happened with the 5 rounds some other time.

by noneed4name on Jan 25, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You tell em Freddie. A great fight plan mixed with solid standup gives you a chance against anyone in a fight. This isn’t a knock against Fedor. He’s great fighter but double A was giving him a tough fight before his mistake.

by Kdog on Jan 26, 2009 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

What the fuck is a lucky punch? Honestly, some people are retarded.

Watch the replay people. Did he look at his opponent? Yes. Did he pick his shot? Yes. Did the shot hit its mark? Yes.

Yeh, Fedor just threw a random lucky punch that just HAPPENED to hit him dead on the button. A perfect punch right on the chin. His opponent made a mistake, he capitalized. That’s how you win fights when you’re that good.

If he’s that good at getting off lucky shots then he’s even better than I thought. Lucky punch…. Give me a break.

by TheToddfather on Jan 26, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my god. I can’t believe your still kissing his ass like this after AA exposed his flaws and was dominating the round.

by the matt king on Jan 25, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Last time I checked that was a comeback.

What, do you think AA was the only guy in the ring thinking? You can sure see the biased people that can’t think objectively anymore.

If AA was doing so well exploiting Fedor, how is it he ended up face down in a pool of his own slobber?

You’re the first to say AA was ‘exposing’ Fedor’s weakness. Well, what would you call Fedor’s monsterous blow to AA’s open jaw? He went for a flying knee and got caught. Why did he get caught? Hmmmm, maybe because Fedor just ‘exposed’ his ‘flaws’ by laying him out flat on his face.

by TheToddfather on Jan 26, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn’t lucky. AA made a mistake. Before that point he was handing Fedor butt whooping on a plate. AA exposed huge holes in his game and looked a little desperate which I’ve never seen. In the end, Fedor obviously won, so the debate is pointless. It’s also pointless to not recognize that Fedor will lose at some point.

by the matt king on Jan 25, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

“Oh my god. I can’t believe your still kissing his ass like this after AA exposed his flaws and was dominating the round.”

In case you missed it, Fedor KNOCKED HIM OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND. What more do you want him to do?

by Keoawe on Jan 26, 2009 6:49 AM EST up reply actions  

The punch wasn’t all luck but Fedor had his head and eyes down. It wss a bit of haymaker. Arlovski was dominating in every way up until that point, watch it again in HD again and again. Arlovski clearly out struck Fedor with punches and kicks. Any hardcore true MMA fan can see that. Fedor is an amazing fighter with great striking power but if Arlovski stuck to the game plan he had the opportunity to win. And BTW Roach is at the top of the sport for boxing training, anyone with a bit of integrity and class would respect that instead of beaking off like some punk talking trash on the internet who probably has their own reasons for trying to insult others who have already succeeded.

by curtioso on Jan 26, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Fedor most certainly does rule, I laugh at all the haters. Fedor is awesome, one of the greatest fighters to ever live, humble, respectful, has the physique of a grizzly bear, and the mentality of the fcking terminator.

Fights I would love to see Fedor in come this year:
> Fedor vs Couture
> Fedor vs Barnett
> Fedor vs Yvel (One sided beatdown I know, but a fun one to watch)
> Fedor vs Arlovski II
> Fedor vs Lesnar
> Fedor vs Gonzaga
> Fedor vs Dos Santos
> Fedor vs Carwin and Velasquez (Handicap match lol)
> Fedor vs Gonzaga

Wishful thinking I know, but wudnt it be insane if Fedor fought all these guys then retired?

by rhys on Jan 26, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

How come Gonzaga twice?

by Dugout on Jan 26, 2009 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree with most of those match ups but why would he fight carwin(has not beat anyone) and velasquez and dos santos are rookies no reason to fight them.

by roy on Jan 26, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Man AA looked like he came ready to give Fedor all he could handle. It almost looked as if Fedor baited him a little playing hurt into the corner after that kick to lure AA in to open up and then unloaded that right hand (followed by a left) and game over. Fedor had his hands full but may have created the opening he needed to finish the fight. Rewatch the show, right before the fight Fedor says in his interview that he capitalizes on his opponents mistakes. It took just over three minutes to do that to Arlovski. I would love to see a rematch and I would think Andre would want one too.

by CAP on Jan 26, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

It was poor judgment. I think Arlovski would probably have won that fight (70%) if he were to continue to box from a distance. I think Roach has improved Arlovski’s boxing a lot.

Having said that, winners find a way to win, Arlovski did just that.

by Brandon on Jan 25, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

err Fedor did just that. My bad

by Brandon on Jan 25, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If arlovski continued to box Fedor would have changed tactics. They were raving that AA was the best striker in MMA, well he took all of AA’s punches and never folded. Give them props Fedor is king.

by MrFyer on Jan 25, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Who would have thought, it was Fedor who won the fight by capitalizing on a lucky punch…

by ambient on Jan 25, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Man creates his own luck. AA created bad luck by attempting a flying knee and Fedor created good luck by precisely clocking him.

by MrFyer on Jan 25, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

fedor is the best

by Mr. VinceMcMahon on Jan 25, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

You make a mistake in this sport you lose. Yeah Arlovski was doing good in the standup, but that was to be expected. Fedor’s strength is the ground and he hadn’t really tried for a take down yet so I definetily can’t say that Arlovski would have won the fight if it continued.

by subwayy2sallyy on Jan 25, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, go watch the fight again. fedor tried for a take down three different times and failed all three times. he was desperate and didn’t know what to do in there so he closed his eyes, ducked his head, and swung.

by jj on Jan 25, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You sound foolish. It was a short fight, and AA fell on his face because Fedor knew how to react in that situation. Accept it.

by jess on Jan 25, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

“He closed his eyes, ducked his head, and swung” Are you serious bro, Fedor telegraphed that flying knee perfectly and dropped the Pitbull in stunning fashion..Ur boy Arlovski lost, GAME OVER..Fedor #1

by pride 4 ever on Jan 25, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

do you know what a telegraph is? arlovski telegraphed the knee, fedor didn’t. it means he threw it poorly and it was easy to see coming. i know you didn’t mistype it either because it’s about the second or third time you’ve said it.

by ActionJackson on Jan 25, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha. I have been too lazy to correct him on that in the past few posts. I figured someone would get around to it.

by naturalshadow on Jan 25, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Fedor never attempted a takedown. He initianted the clinch and avoided a takedown. He even pitterpattered with Arlovski’s feet a litte but all that in judo/sambo is to test out your opponent. Its how you learn what the guy is going to do so you can set him up later. Its easy to tell when Fedor is going for a takedown. His opponent either has to work his ass off to stay up or he eats the mat.

by HOC on Jan 25, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He didnt try for 3 takedowns. They clinched once and it was because of Andrei.

by subwayy2sallyy on Jan 25, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

arlovski is the one who tried to take the fight to the matt with a double underhook body lock but it was fedors incredible balance and hips that prevented it what the hell fight were you watching

by dia mette on Jan 25, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats what i was saying. Somebody else said that Fedor tried to take Arlovski down 3 times and I said the only real takedown attempt that I saw was by AA

by subwayy2sallyy on Jan 25, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I just watched the post fight presser and fedor was talking about how NOT ONE of arlovskis shots had him hurt at any time and that they were mostly glancing blows its rediculous how people are saying fedor was getting dominated its a good thing fedor has a cool temperment because even after a first rd KO he still gets critiszed

by dia mette on Jan 25, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Dia Mette…you are right on the money. Well said.

by Ca$z on Jan 25, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Fedor can say what he wants! I like him! But, several of those strikes rocked the hell out of him! Even knocked him around! I have it DVR’ed and watched it three times. Fedor is remarkable and recovers rapidly! But, he was not as aggressive as usual because after AA connected a couple of times, I think Fedor realized that AA was too quick and possessed the power to KO him! Fedor was still trying to figure out how to deal with him when AA screwed up and left the ground. Fedor capitalized on a golden opportunity! Great fight! They will meet again!

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 25, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Fedor’s face post fight looked spotless. I agree that AA’s punches had no affect on him. Fedor’s shrugged of shots that bloodied and bruised his face, so I think if those ‘ROCKED THE HELL OUT OF HIM,’ his face would have shown at least a little bit of marks. The only marks I saw was on his right bicep.

by Iano on Jan 26, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, just got lucky I guess…Another reason to not believe in the Fedor hype for all anti-fedor punditz.

by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jan 25, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

I guess Freddy has never seen a Fedor fight prior to last night.

by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Jan 25, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions  

Apparently not.

Although I wanted to see Arlovski win, Fedor did exactly what was needed. Capitalized on an unnecessary flying knee. The question now, can Barnett do what no other HW has done in 26 attempts? I doubt it…

by Jeff on Jan 25, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

People like Roach (a fitting last name if ever there were one) don’t realize that beating Emelianenko for 3 minutes is a hell of a lot different than beating Emelianenko for 25 minutes.

by Rich B on Jan 25, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, that was fucking original man.

by Mrs.Featherbottom on Jan 25, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

we should be happy, the way this fight is getting disputed will almost force affilction to rematch the two, but my cash is still on fedor WHOO! AA should hide a metal plate in that beard of his, maybe next time.

by Blazy J on Jan 25, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

LOL, that’s what I was thinking, shave it off and glue the hair to a metal plate and strap it back on. Serriously though, AA chin isn’t that bad, he took plenty of hard shots in regular exchanges in the past 7 years. The 2 times his chin failed him he was charging forward. It’s a BIG difference when you add the forward momentum of 240 lbs to a punch. That would KO just about anyone. You just see it more with AA because he keeps repeating the same stupid mistakes.

by Gord on Jan 25, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Last night’s KO didn’t have anything to do with Arlovski having a weak chin. The shot he took on the jaw charging in would have knocked anyone out. However, the knockout against Sylvia was different. In that one he was dropped by a short uppercut, and even though he was moving forward it did expose his chin as questionable.

by GregC on Jan 25, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

If fedor was winning the round like AA was, and then AA was the one who got the lucky punch, people would be downplaying AA’s win, instead of praising it like people are with Fedor’s win right now.

by renoMq on Jan 25, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

i like both guys but a winner always find a way to win. that being lucky or just kicking another guys ass. i dont care how he won. a win is a win in my book.

by hckykrt91 on Jan 25, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

I dont consider it luck if you hit what you are aiming for. Its not like the point of the jaw is a very large target. That punch could not have been anymore pinpoint. And so what if he even did have his eyes closed. Jordan made free throws with his eyes closed. Was that just dumb luck as well? I would consider it to be a lucky punch if the guy slips and falls chin first on to your fist. Not a punch that is quickly aimed, relased and finds its mark. Fedor did what Fedor does, he waits and finds the holes. Arlovski showed one early and he payed. Damn though, Arlovski looked really good while he was awake.

by HOC on Jan 25, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

If i just had the proper conditioning, started boxing,and won a few Golden Gloves tournaments, I could have beaten Mike Tyson. He’s lucky I never pursued boxing, real lucky.

After Armstrong won the third Tour de France race, I started biking up and down Lakeshore Drive in Chicago. I seriously thought about entering the race prior to Armstrong’s fourth win. He’s lucky i stayed away, real lucky. Even my girlfriend agrees.

I studied judo for a few months, but if i just persevered a little longer i would have received my black belt and then ran my own school. The instructor teaching at the current school i was training at is so lucky i didn’t pursue judo, real lucky.

Man, if i had a nickel for all those lucky people who are the beneficiaries of my inability to capitalize on opportunities right in front of me, I would be a rich man.

by james on Jan 25, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

Freddie Roach looks and sounds like Milton from Office Space, he should move his desk into the basement too because his opinion is worthless in MMA.

“Fight like a man”
“Fedor has no technique in stand up”

Now it’s “He got lucky”.

Sorry Roach that you trained a fighter that does dumb things and has a weak chin, and you think he is going to be a professional boxer? He would be KTFO by Evander Holyfield in 3 rounds or less.

Hope now we don’t have to have daily posts about Roach and his terrible opinions involving MMA.

by DirtyML on Jan 25, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

He has parkinsons disease.

by Brandon on Jan 25, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I know he does.

by DirtyML on Jan 26, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Then you are a douchebag for making fun of him for that.

by Brandon on Jan 26, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

God created Parkinsons for people like Freddie Roach because there would be 1 more thing we can point and laugh at!

by liukangstoupee on Jan 26, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Very mature kid. Karma is on it’s way pal.

by introvert on Jan 26, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He has parkinsons disease

by Brandon on Jan 25, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If you watch most of Fedor’s fights (Randleman, Hunt, etc), somebody is “always…almost” close to beating Fedor. However, there’s a big difference between almost beating and successfully beating Fedor. Freddie Roach’s argument is as valid as saying you “almost” scored with a girl, but she turned you down. Means nothing. /story.

by King Jo on Jan 25, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

there was a difference between all the other fights,when have you ever seen Fedor look like he could not get within a couple of feet when he went to swing at Arlovski,he looked confused and that is very rare to see that with Fedor.You are right though Fedor won ,see it all means nothing unless they fight again,then this fight and what happened will very important

by scott on Jan 25, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if you were really honest with yourself, you would see that this fight was a little different than ONE slam for Randleman, or ONE punch for Fujita,or ONE take-down for Hunt. None of those guys showed any sign of even having a chance in a rematch with Fedor. Many people believe AA did.

by Gord on Jan 25, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The only way to end this debate is for Fedor and AA to rematch. However, I think by the time this fight happens, Fedor will have figured out AA and beat him again. It’s easier to fight somebody once you’ve done so before…but then again, who knows? This is MMA, and the outcome could be on the scale of Liddell/Couture #2. Anything is possible.

by King Jo on Jan 25, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at the fight. Fedor is amazing. Get over yourself if it was bodybuilding AA would win. Boxing maybe. Mma, well you saw what happened.
Fedor will probably lose but Andre’s just not the right guy.
Maybe Freddie Douchebag wants to take a shot since he has him so figured out.
He was winning one round, who cares?!

by scissorfight on Jan 25, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

What Freddie Roach said was correct,Arlovski was winning the fight standing ,in the clinch,Arlovski actually came closer to taking Fedor down than Fedor taking down Arlovski.Fedor looked very confused ,it was like he could not even get close to Arlovski.Arlovski made a very cocky and careless mistake,and Fedor capitalized.I would love to see a rematch,I somehow doubt it will happen,due to how confused and flustered Fedor looked.We can talk all day about what could have happened ,but long story short Fedor won.I hate that it happened like that,I would have rather seen Fedor destroy Arlovski rather than him catching a cocky Arlovski.Fedor is the best HW ,but Arlovski showed that he very well has what it takes to beat Fedor.Lets just hope that they get it on again,lets see a fight where Arlovski does not get cocky,and sticks to his gameplan.No matter what Fedor lovers and haters have to admit Arlovski definatly has the skills to beat Fedor ,but does he have the brain

by scott on Jan 25, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

Arlovski was not winning that fight. It was about even and Fedor landed more knees and shots from the clinch while Arlovski held a slight advantage in the exchanges on the feet. He never had Fedor hurt, never took him down, never landed more than one shot at a time. The flying knee was not a cocky move. AA had used it to great affect in his previous 5 fights and if had landed would have hurt Fedor. Instead Fedor clocked him and watch the KO…Fedor was looking at the target.

by hatteras on Jan 25, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Fedor never tried to take Arlovski down. His plan was a feel out, get AA’s timing, reach then wait for a mistake since he’s seen Arlovski make many of them in past fights. Lo and behold, AA did a mistake and Fedor capitalized. Have people taken notice of the delay AA made before his jumping knee attack? How could fedor not have seen that?

A quick counter catching Nog’s in a knock down puch was 3 times as fast.

Also notice Fedor’s other arm comming up to protect his head from the knee. He saw it a mile coming. He looked AA straight in the eye then commited an over hand right aiming for his chin. (watch slow mo replay)

by Iano on Jan 26, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what will make everyone feel better?

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY!!!

by The5thBeatle on Jan 25, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

It’ll make me feel better!

by allamerican on Jan 25, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Roach, stop your whining.
AA did not KO the best fighter in teh world. Couln’t do it.
This is real mma fighting , not boxing.

by socalbiker on Jan 25, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

Tired of people saying If Andrei did this or if Andrei did that.. He got KO’d. In MMA these things happen. Fighters can dominate the fight and still lose thats bottom line. Tired of people making excuses. Once again Fedor proves to all the critics why he is the best heavyweight in the world. For those who argue that Andrei was winning up until that point others can argue that if it went on maybe Fedor would have wore him out. There is always something you can argue and say What if? but it didn’t happen and the better fighter won. Freddie Roach is a respectable boxing coach but doesn’t know shit about MMA.

Lucky Punch? you got to be joking he planted that shot perfectly and followed up with a left but Andrei was already out.

FEDOR RULES!!!!

by skelow on Jan 25, 2009 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

Jordan threw up prayers all of the time. Elway, Montana threw up prayers. Get real. I guess Evans hit Iceman with a lucky shot, Rampage too, I guess Iceman hit Randy with lucky shots 2 times. And Tito 2 times. Oh by the way Tito hit Ken with 3 lucky shots (at least). Oh wait, Vitor hit Tank with a lucky shot, Tyson hit everyone with a lucky shot (Robin Givens included). There is some luck in everything but there is also loads of training, film watching, and on gameday (fight day) lots of action and reaction.

by Brian "NO MMA KNOWLEDGE" on Jan 25, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Skelow..where you watching the same fight as the rest of the world? Cause that shot was as lucky as lucky gets. Fedor probably had a 4-leaf clover on his shlong!

by I call it as I see it! on Jan 25, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched it 10 times now and Fedor totally baited him into the corner, bounced off ropes with hands down but cocked, then delivered a right cross with eyes open…

by McArthur on Jan 25, 2009 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

To the people saying that Fedor closed his eyes and preyed before throwing his punch you guys seriously need to hook yourselves up with some illegally uploaded video footage of that PPV because there was never a moment where that happened.

Oh and stop listening to Freddie Roach.

by Andy C on Jan 25, 2009 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

That’s what separates the top guys from the rest. If you make the slightest mistake, they will make you pay. It’s not them getting “lucky”.

I don’t believe Arlovski’s name should be mentioned with any of the top heavyweights. Outstriking someone who isn’t really known as an incredible striker for 3 minutes of a 25 minute fight isn’t beating them. If he hadn’t made that error, he’d have made another. Fedor would have won regardless.

Imagine what Barnett, Mir, Lesnar, Gonzaga, Carwin would do to him. I do not see him winning any matches against top guys.

I picked Fedor to win simply because of Roach’s involvement. This is not boxing. This is MMA.

by Jon on Jan 25, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

I agree, the only way Fedor is lucky is that Arlovski made such an obvious and stupid mistake and he pounded his face to the mat in response.

The lucky part for Arlovski is that he was KO’ed when he hit the mat or else he would have been submitted or punched more.

by DirtyML on Jan 25, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Carwin and Lesnar aren’t necessarily top guys. Well maybe Lesnar, but certainly not Carwin. Who has he beat? Arlovski would take Gonzaga in my opinion.

by WTF on Jan 26, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Arlovski would tool all of those guys, except Barnett.
Carwin hasn’t beaten anyone, and he would get worked on the feet.
Until we see the rematch with Lesnar, I’m still not convinced by Mir’s “amazing new striking skills”, and I don’t think he could take Arlovski down to submit him.
Gonzaga would get picked apart on the feet and eventually TKO’d.
Lesnar is the only one of the 4 that poses any threat, and that’s only because of his size. Despite that, Arlovski is faster and probably hits harder.

by Hero-Of-Time on Jan 26, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Freddie roach pumped AA up too much and made him too cocky. Fedor took all the hits AA was giving and Boooommm Lights out. Like all the others who have lost to Fedor, They all say the same thing “You think you are getting the better of him then he pulls something out and its Game over”. AA lost, and didn’t listen to the other losers and that is that.Freddie Roach should pack his bags. Well Done Fedor.

by rez on Jan 25, 2009 6:25 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve heard it said that there is no such thing as a lucky punch and I agree. You train yourself to be able to do your job as a fighter and when an opportunity arises you take advantage of it. My high school wrestling coach had a sign up on his wall that stated; “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” The problem is that Roach and the rest of AA’s camp doesn’t realize what his biggest and most glaring weakness is. It’s not his chin, in my opinion it’s his mental state. They don’t train that like they should. That’s the next frontier in MMA if you ask me. There’s a reason why Fedor and Silva are two of the best in the world. There’s a reason why GSP lost to Serra but then came back stronger than ever. There’s a reason why BJ, with as much natural talent as he has, why he’s just now starting to live up to his potential. The mentally stronger fighter will when with all else being equal.

by sweaty ol' jeff blatnick on Jan 25, 2009 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

how can one say what a lucky punch is or lucky wins , there could be at least 10000 lucky “punches” or “wins” since the beginning of MMA . Are we going to call every win we don’t agree with a lucky “punch” or kick or submission . Arolovski didn’t prove himself enough by “dominating” for 3 mins when the fight was scheduled for 25 mins and simply made a fool of himself by taking it to Fedor . The reason i watch MMA today is Fedor he might of have easy fights , he might of got lucky at times , and he might of capitalized on opponents mistakes but who DIDN’T if anyone knows a fighter that havent had luck in his career or had easy fights please mention his or her name

by mma360 on Jan 25, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

A lucky punch? That’s laughable. Arlovski was in the air 2 feet above Fedor’s head, who throws punches over their head? He saw it coming, and countered, knocking AA out before he hit the ground. End of story

by The Madness on Jan 25, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

Diffrent weight classes, i know, but I would LOVE to see Belfort-Arvloski! That would be a striking match from h3ll!!!

by BrutalKnockout. on Jan 25, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

Stupid from Andrei. I need to see a rematch at some time.

by RobH86 on Jan 25, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Listening to the “Pit Bull’s” (Arlovski) post fight interview on Sherdog, I quickly went from sympathetic to disgust. To sit there and down play his loss on moving his camp from to Chicago to Los Angeles is repulsive. Arlovski was training with the best trainer and at the best boxing club in the world, a place where champs are made(Pacquiao, Tyson, De La Hoya, Hopkins..just to name a few). Arlovski should own up to his mistake of deviating from “the plan” because I’m sure 3 time trainer of the year, Freddie Roach, didn’t practice any flying knee kicks in his ring. It’s my understanding that his Chicago boxing “trainer” also wears an apron while making pizza and rolling up some spicy meatballs as a day job(also the same guy who trained David Diaz in that awful fight were Roach’s #1 pupil, Pacquiao, savagely beat and knocked out in 9 rounds). Maybe Arlovski should have left Chicago in Chicago when he came to train with the big dogs in Los Angeles. I doubt Roach will be willing to train the “flashy” flying knee kicker again. Hey Arlovski, maybe your Chicago boxing “trainer” will lend you an apron so you two can roll pizza together to stay warm in Chicago cause your boxing career is over! ..Just sayin’.

by It is what it is.. on Jan 25, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

REMATCHHHHHHHH

by c-war on Jan 25, 2009 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

everyone needs to stop bitching AA lost FEDOR won thats that its mma thats what happens it wasnt lucky… the only luck was AA didnt get his jaw broke by the man

by FEDOR IS #1 STFU ALL HATERS on Jan 25, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky? Did he actually mean to throw a kick at his foot and luckily threw a punch to the jaw? When you punch are you usually aiming for the wrist or the head? should I go on with this…

by CageFightingKip on Jan 25, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

I’m beginning to doubt more than just Freddie Roach’s ability speak. There’s a good chance Fedor’s punch doesn’t connect, just as there is that any punch doesn’t connect, but that was not a lucky punch.

This punch single handedly made more babies out of MMA fans than any other.

by Clayton on Jan 25, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

the way he got lucky was that Andrei exposed his chin for him to hit.. If he would have kept his gameplan ala Lyoto Machida he would have won for sure!

by RoB on Jan 25, 2009 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

watch the whole fight again. For the first 2 minutes and 14 secs Fedor is winning. Then AA turns it up and was winning for oh about 9 seconds before getting KO’d. AA was not winning that fight he hardly landed anything and never more than one shot at a time.

by hatteras on Jan 26, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

i’ve already watched it about ten times buddy! and if you don’t think that Andrei is winning then i don’t know what fight you were watching.. he beat him to the punch every time, and Fedor didn’t even reach Andrei with his punches and looked real sloppy..

by RoB on Jan 26, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

A roach eats crow, I love it. Fedor was never expected to be technically better with the standup; he was expected to be patient, throw some bombs to soften AA up so he can finish the job on the ground. This is exactly what he did, only Arlovski was asleep before the ground finale could begin. Watch the replay, Fedor tracked him the whole way. So, keep talking about how AA’s game plan was working, then tell me who’s game plan worked. But it’s cool…keep making excuses…I’d be disappointed too if my fighter got turned around mid-air and broke his fall with his face. I like Arlovski, but trying to spin the fight is desperate

by Mak on Jan 25, 2009 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

Let me make some points.
1) A lot of time was spent in the clinch so I find it difficult to belive the AA was beating Fedor by a large margin.
Because of this I say AA did not DOMINATE the fight. He controled the portion of the fight that was not in the clinch.
2) As someone said before … controlling Fedor for a few minutes is a lot different than controlling Fedor for 25 min and even less than beating him.
3) We don’t know if AA could have kept up his pace in later rounds. All Fedor had to do is wait for AA to get tired and take him down. Fedor is a Sambo/judo/Submission EXPERT. How many of you can seriously claim that AA has the ability to beat Fedor in the ground game?

by Dick B. Nasty on Jan 25, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Fedor is the best HW in the world and proved once again, I can’t understand the UFC sheeple who won’t admit it and just finally accept the fact that Fedor will never fight in the UFC. If there is a HW in the world that wants to challenge him he can altleast fight them and not have to just fight the so called contenders from the UFC.

by Bigmcmac on Jan 25, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

i personally dont believe in lucky punches

by matt on Jan 25, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Well nether do i, except in the Serra GSP fight.

by Lester the Pimp on Jan 25, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldnt call that a lucky punch…what was serra trying to do when he threw that punch? miss him not hurt him not ko him what what was he trying to do with it exactly? i would love to know

by matt on Jan 25, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey once I threw a basketball across an entire court and made it in the basket. But it wasn’t luck, because that’s what I was aiming for.

by Brandon on Jan 25, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

OH yeah, THere are like lucky armbars, chokes, kicks all the time in mma. No one actually practices these things. They happen by mistake.

Total act of god.

(Sarcasm)

Sh17 happens… NEXT.

FEDOR hmmmmm maybe you should take on someone else who couldnt put up in the ufc…

Dont make him fight barnett, keep them two around to kick the crap out of everyone so that when you decide to do a big a$$ fight between em it will be something so hyped the UFC will have to do up a mega mega event to try and dampen it.

by Prince E. on Jan 25, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Arlovski chin is not suspect; first I think he’s dead (whit a punch like that)! but he immediately recover! Rashad Evans/Liddell & Fedor/Arlovski KO’s is both incredible! Re-Match?! Fedor by submission or Arlvoski by one punch KO (Fedor’s defensive fault!)

by 2110EvanTannerUSMMAChampionship on Jan 25, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

i would love to see a rematch i think aa has what it takes to beat fedor he just needs to fight smart and keep his composure and not get cocky and go wild. He was picking fedor apart on the feet but got to confident but fedor is the man and hes good really really good but i think aa has the best chance out of any heavy weight to beat him

by matt on Jan 25, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

AA was never ahead in that fight. Watch it again and count how many times he hits Fedor vs How many times he gets hit. Fedor is better than AA on the ground, in the clinch and apparently standing toe to toe. AA never had a chance in this fight but who else does affliction have? Fedor is far, far superior as a fighter to AA.

by hatteras on Jan 26, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

that coach is an idiot talked shit before fight and now that fedor knocked him the f out he still talking shit i dont care if it was lucky still knacked him the f—- out

by jay on Jan 25, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

For a second it looked like Arlovksi thought he was fighting Nelson or Rothwell throwing that flying knee. He got too confident out there thinking he had Fedor rocked a little. Guess he now understands why Fedors the best.

by mmanutZ on Jan 25, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

Theres not gonna be a fucking rematch, rematches happens after a split decision, nothing else. And definately not after one guy knocking the other one out cold.

Fuck AA and his smacktalking coaches.
Fedor is king.

by Lester the Pimp on Jan 25, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Rematches happen after a split decision??
Hmm…Tito/Chuck got a rematch, Chuck/Randy got a rematch, Rampage/Wanderlei, and the list goes on…Sorry dude, you walked into that one.

by BrutalKnockout. on Jan 25, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

doesnt help that andre has a glass chin

by DaiTheFlu on Jan 25, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Im beginning to think these giant beards are the MMA version of sports cars for guys with small d*cks.

Can’t take a punch? Grow a huge f’ing beard!

by DirtyML on Jan 25, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Sports cars? It’s clearly guys with enormous trucks.

by Brandon on Jan 25, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Just so you all know, there were two groups of people that Fedor thanked in his post-fight interview – the organizers and ORTHODOX christians who prayed for him. Not fans, mind you. It almost sounded like he wanted to single only those two groups out. Needless to say, that part was not translated. Instead, the interpreter put in a very harmless PC way, as if Fedor was thanking everyone who prayed for him. Obviously, he doesn’t care about his anglo-saxon (term that Russian nationalists love to use so much these days) fans.

And it’s sick to see how many people all of a sudden don’t believe in lucky punches – for a long time I used to say that grapplers have a “submission’s chance” when they are fighting a striker. Effective striking requires skill and a lot of training. For some reason people like to downplay striking skills and chalk it up to luck. But, there is a difference between competent striking and a wild, Koschek-style, overhand right. It was a desperate strike that just happened to find its mark. If AA knocked Fedor out with a wild punch, Fedor fans would be hating on AA.

by ambient on Jan 25, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

“Obviously, he doesn’t care about his anglo-saxon fans”. Please tell me you’re joking. Did you write this at recess?

AA jumped in with his guard down and Fedor crushed his face in a punch that couldn’t have been better placed. Luck is man-made. Fedor isn’t invincible, but he is consistent, and has a great conversion rate for capitalizes on the mistakes of others. That, my friend, is not luck – it’s skill.

by Mak on Jan 25, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Freddie Roach is an idiots, andrei down his guard, for that lost.

by juanstein on Jan 25, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

There is no such thing as a lucky punch. Fedor initiated it, it was his objective to smash him and to win the fight, so obviously if his intentions were to hit him and he went down, KO victory, fedor wins, thats what happened. There is no such thing as luck or a lucky punch. I like AA and Fedor both..even if he didn’t land the punch Fedor would have found a way to beat him later in the round with his superior submissions and Sambo skills. So shut the fuck up about lucky punches, he would have won anyways and you know it.

WAR FEDOR.

by StabToTheLiver on Jan 25, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

u guys know Fedor got paid 300 thousand with no win bonus and arlovski got paid 1 million 500 thousand and would have had a 250 thousand win bonus god dawm!!! Fedor is getting screwed and arlovski is cashing in

by The Philicutioner on Jan 25, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

what? How much of AA’s purse goes to leeches like roach? The plan was for AA to beat the sports best (Fedor) then go to boxing and lose thus making boxing look great. Fedor shattered that dream.

Everyone said if it goes to the ground Fedor will arm bar him or choke him, but if it stays on the feet AA will kill him. WRONG. It stayed on the feet and AA got KO’d by one punch. Yet people still wine. If Fedor had won on the ground peole would say he had to in order to win. Wrong. Fedor won in the way no one from the boxing world thought he would on his feet. Roach doesn’t know shit about fighting. Boxing to fighting is like football with no passing the ball aloud. It makes it easier for the defence when the offense is reduced to one thing. MMA takes a hell of a lot more skill to learn than just boxing.

by hatteras on Jan 26, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmmm…………Where’s John?

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 25, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

Shameful rubbish… Fedor played possum, brought AA in close and smashed him; PP and all.

There is the art of technique and the art of battle. AA needs to learn the latter.

by TapedUpPair on Jan 25, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

FEDOR ALL THE WAY NO FIGHTER HAS ANYTHING ON HIM!!!!!!

by #1 P4P Anderson Silva on Jan 25, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

im so sick of hearing about this jackass. he lost all the respect i never had for him

by mwd on Jan 25, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

K Fedor won fair and square but all the AA fans and Fedor or “Feedor” according to Tito, have to admit that it looked like AA was dominating the stand up. Fedor had his hands down and he was backing up into the corner, he did “look” like he was under some pressure from AA. Whether this was a tactics of Fedor to lure AA in only Fedor knows.

by Calgary Real Estate on Jan 25, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Everyone who claims that Fedor’s powerful overhand right was a lucky punch clearly doesn’t understand MMA..Fedor telegraphed that flying knee precisely and knock the Pitbull out cold..Fedor trains like no other..Hes a true professional like Anderson Silva..Arlovski is one hell of a fighter and is a top 5 heavyweight, but he got caught and he exposed himself..He lost, get over it clowns..Fedor #1

by pride 4 ever on Jan 25, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

FLYING KNEE………WHY!
Arlovski needed to just stay out of range and make it a Decision match but fedor took advantage of a mistake so there is nothing lucky about that punch.Dont get me wrong i wanted Arlovski to win and i thought he was gonna do it.

Well done Fedor and nice showing Arlovski.

by Platinum69 on Jan 25, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

Again roach makes me laugh every time he opens his mouth. THIS IS MMA, NOT A BOXING MATCH!!!! Fedor is the heavy weight king of MMA he’s not the best in each area but is the best at putting them all together. The flying knee was a dumb thing to do, maybe if fedor was shooting in like hughes on alves, definitely not the time for it. Fedor is one of the smartest fighters in MMA, and is very adaptable, but I still wanted AA to beat him I’m tired of his invincibility.

by nathan on Jan 25, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Fedor is good but please before he passes his prime…Dana whita sign him for a couple of fights. How many fights does he really have in Affliction maybe 1 or 2 fights at the most. I would love to see him fight Brock lesnar, Frank Mir, Cain Velasquez, A well trained Couture and a very well trained Kongo. UFC please make it happen.

by danny_c on Jan 25, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, UFC sign him up so he can add even more UFC HW champs to his list of people whose ass he has kicked. What has he beaten now, FIVE ex UFC heavyweight champs?

Too funny!

by noneed4name on Jan 25, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

fedor is the man

by shamo84 on Jan 26, 2009 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

No such thing as a lucky punch I wanted fedor to lose but he won fair and square. A lucky punch would have been if fedor aimed for aa’s feet and acidentally hit him in the face and knocked him it, instead he put one hand up to block the knee, aimed for the head and laid him out. AA was doing well but those light, stick and move punches aren’t going to do anything to fedor, thats his thing, eventually you misstep and one misstep is all it takes for him to win.

by Big Jake on Jan 26, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

I think AA would/should/could have won
 
IF he had better boxing coach
IF he had better jaw
IF he was quicker
IF he was stronger
IF Fedor had his hands tied behind the back

by Lappish Shaman on Jan 26, 2009 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

we might see tim silvia vs arlovski 4, remember that AA is very eager to get his shot again against Silvia.

by mad_drummer on Jan 26, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

AA was doing well, but not as well as hunt, crocop, randleman, fujita, etc. im not saying hes not a top HW, but hes definitely not a thinking HW. btw, people blaming the flying knee itself are deluded…..its not the move he used, its the way he did it (charging in very fast with his hands down into what he thought was a confused and injured fedor). if he had not jumped and used a looping punch or some other move, fedor would have just adjusted his aim a little lower. he got cocky, the flying knee just happened to be the move he used when he went nuts.

also, to the people saying it was a lucky punch cos his head was down, watch the rest of the fight…..FEDOR THROWS ALL HIS PUNCHES LIKE THAT, its his technique. also, if it was a random and lucky punch, so was the second one that he he unleashed a split-second later that only missed arlovski cos he dropped like a sack of potatoes.

by noodleburger on Jan 26, 2009 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

True that. AA was whoopin that ass before his OWN mistake cost him. Fedor is a farce and i’d put all my money on AA if they fought again. This is MMA anything can happen no matter who’s in control and that happened. AA got flashy and it cost him. AA if he would of stuck to his gameplan would of continuously picked Fedor apart. Fedor obviously is human especially after last night.

by xxBAxx816 on Jan 26, 2009 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

Fedor’s overhand seemed to be aiming for AA’s face around the forehead which would usually stun opponents allowing him to take him to the ground. Fedor saw AA drop his arms and charge(Watch replay of initial eye contact), so he aimed accordingly. It wasn’t his fault AA jumped and gave his fist a chin present.

BTW it’s probably a lost thread but I predicted this to be a very rare cold KO for Fedor (taking into account AA’s chin)

by Iano on Jan 26, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

Roach got hit by lots of lucky punches, that’s why he’s such a fucking retard.

by Roach = Retard on Jan 26, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

Fedor got lucky.

by Sean M on Jan 26, 2009 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

It was aimed, Fedos is just like that…waits for the opening and goes for it. He has done so in almost all his fights, waits for the opportunity. Freddie is just pathetic and an idiot, no matter what he has achieved before.

by Dani on Jan 26, 2009 3:12 AM EST reply actions  

my money is on AA on this fight but man we have to give fedor alot of credits he beat AA on his own game (& probably one of the thoughest standup fighter that fedor fought) he might losing in the exchange against AA but still he KO AA which is big.

by mad_drummer on Jan 26, 2009 3:40 AM EST reply actions  

Look all of you Fedor haters out there what does it take to shut you up and make you admit that fedor albiet(not unbeatable) is the best hw in mma today and one of the top pound for pound fighters in the world.I mean if he won by sub you would have had some excuse saying he just caught a lucky armbar or if it was a split or even a unanimous decision, there would always be some ridiculous excuse that you would give to discredit fedor’s legitimate spot at the top of the hw division in mma. I’ve heard oh fedor isn’t number 1 till he fights the best in the div. well who is are the top guys huh what the UFC hw’s well im sorry to tell you the ufc has a pretty weak hw div. I mean really who do they have Brock he wouldnt last more then 2 rounds and that is giving him extra credit, Mir (not taking anyhting from mir)looked really good against nog cause Nog looked really bad i mean honestly nog lost because he didnt come in normal nog form, Mir is a good fighter but he got ko’ed by vera easily and nog is In my opinion a better boxer than vera. So other than those hws in the ufc who is there Coture(hes on his way out), Dos santos has one win against a real lvl opponent, so please tell me who there is left for fedor to fight that would convince you he is the best hw in the worl right now. I mean if you can give me a real valid answer then I would believe you ppl have a actual argument rather than just a ignorant downlook on anything not UFC.

by noobsaibot on Jan 26, 2009 5:15 AM EST reply actions  

i dont know what a “lucky punch” is but AA blew this he was kicking fedors ass anyway you look at it. and yes he did do something stupid with the knee. The best thing that happend here was that Fedor has been exposed….he is human and will be beat very soon..hopefully by andre

by kapp1179 on Jan 26, 2009 6:37 AM EST reply actions  

Who ever thinks that was a lucky punch is a moron!

Letting me in there at 150lbs and connecting with a shot to knock out AA would be LUCKY!

I like Barnett, but Fedor gets him too, then hopefully DW pays the man a truckload to fight Lesnar if he beats Mir.

by The Slovak on Jan 26, 2009 8:30 AM EST reply actions  

Only Fedor could KO the #1 contender in 3 minutes, and then have his performance questioned.
All you Fedor haters go fuck Lesnar or Kimbo.

by JustME on Jan 26, 2009 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

I have a feeling that after that KO, Andrei might be back to his tag and run borefest. Hopefully it doesn’t get to his head and he stays an exciting fighter.

But if there is a rematch, I’m thinking Fedor actually goes for the takedown which he didn’t even attempt this fight, gives him GnP then they stand and a softened Andrei gets TKOed.

by Iano on Jan 26, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Does anyone here think that this event shook up the Rankings a little?
I myself have Babalu and Vitor breaking into the Top 10 of their Divisions with their wins, and obviously have Lindland and Soko moving down quite a bit (if not having Soko moved out completely).
I’ve got AA sitting at Number 2 at HW, but if Barnett puts on a better performance or even beats Fedor, he’ll move to 3.
Your thoughts?

by Hero-Of-Time on Jan 26, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

I am confused by this whole AA dominating the fight up until the knockout. The fight was only 4 minutes long!!! and they were in the clinch for most of it. AA looked a little faster but Fedor did not seemed to fased by it, and looked stronger. Lucky punch or not, AA has a very weak chin and he was out cold.

by doubled on Jan 26, 2009 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

He is known for a looping overhand right so why would it be consider a fluke. Maybe AA should have worked a little harder to defend against it. Personally I would have rather seen Fedor take him down a rip his arm off, you know that as soon as someone gets KO’D its a “LUCKY PUNCH”. Funny in boxing a KO is pure skill but in MMA a its considered a lucky punch. Dude you got beat, there are no excuses and no one is surprized. This fight WENT exactly how we all new it would, GET OVER IT!!!!

by the spyder on Jan 26, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

My take on the fight…

AA was getting the better of the stand-up, for sure. He was well on his way to winning the first round, of a 5 round fight, 10-9. In no way did he look like he was going to take it to Fedor for 5 rounds, or knock him out. It just looked like he had a good gameplan for the start of the fight…which he was definately successful at. It’s not the first time someone came out looking good and almost won one round against a titleholder…is it? I mean, Fedor didn’t even look for a takedown yet. Wouldn’t it be logical, given Fedor’s history, to think if he were hurting from AA’s strikes, he would most likely go for the takedown before getting KTFO?

Would AA have continued to outstrike Fedor for 5 rounds or knock him out?…nobody knows.

Anyone here that is speculating “how the fight would have gone if AA didn’t throw the knee”, is just using speculation.

The only thing that is for sure, and the only conclusion we can make, is that Andre got KTFO.

Fedor knocking Andre out was no more lucky than a hitter in baseball knocking one out of the yard…..you swing the bat in hopes of hitting the ball, if it goes over the fence, it’s because you were successful in hitting the ball on the sweet spot of the bat (which was a direct result of your training in swing practice). Just like Fedor trains every day to knock guys out, and just happened to catch AA on the button…at the perfect time…how the f@ck is that lucky?

Fedor > AA
Fedor > Every HW in the world

(and I’m a AA fan)

by introvert on Jan 26, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Awesome Post!! Could not agree more, but blogs are for this very reason. For people to speculate about conspiracies and what might have happen if this guy did this and that guy did this, who was injured and how the judges were in someone’s pocket, blah, blah, blah.

by doubled on Jan 26, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Great punch, I have never seen somebody get hit like that in mid air, dead before he hit the ground. Duck hunting.

by ktown on Jan 26, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Freddie would have not called it a lucky pucnh if Andrei did it so he is full of shit

by Handy Houture on Jan 26, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky punch if you consider a perfectly timed fist to the jaw with an opponent jumping in the air to be “lucky”.
It was a thing of beauty…a thing that creates a sense of awe…one punch to take out a world class fighter.

It was like watching 2 famed “superheroes” going at it and seeing the strength of a Superman needing a single punch to end it all. Amazing.

My only regret was that I didn’t get to see a highly anticipated ground game.

by Wags on Jan 26, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

i’ve heard that fedor (stupidly) didn’t train all that hard for this fight! LOL

AA must feel even worse now.

and every other heavyweight on the planet should be shaking in their boots (as if they’re not already).

by B_Hos on Jan 26, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

i guess rampage’s knock out of wandy would be considered a lucky punch too since his head was down and not looking at his target.

i like arlovski but he needs to be a boring fighter to be a winning fightert. his jaw is no good enough to bang toe to toe. especially not with fedor.

props to fedor. looking forward to seeing him fight barnett.

by COR on Jan 26, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

Quoted from another forum.

Fedor looked beatable and human when:

Arona was all over him.
Heath had a side mount on him and was landing knees.
Coleman had his back.
Randleman randleplexed him on his head.
Fujita’d wobbled him badly.
Nog had him on his back a few times in their fights.
Crocop had him badly wobbled, broke his nose and made him piss blood.
Hunt had two submissions on him, just inches away from finishing. (if only he had more knowledge)
HMC was on top of him twice, landed some powerful hammerfists.
Lindland badly badly cut him with 1 punch.

Makes the “Arlovski made him look slighty uncomfortable” arguement look pathetic and laughable.

by atn on Jan 26, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

haha its really funny that all these ufc loyalists are making excuses for arlovski. Fedor did what Chuck Liddell has been doing for years and if this was a chuck liddell fight then ppl would be rambling on saying “ahhh that guys a badass”. Being an MMA fighter means having a complete game. If you watch the fight again and again you will see that Fedor was NEVER in any serious trouble throughout this fight. Arlovski was ahead on the scorecards because he was more aggressive but fedor was never off balance. The only strike that looked decent was that front kick towards the end of the fight and id did throw fedor a bit because it landed on the side of his body. The “Lucky punch” was actually a perfectly placed hook the came from out of nowhere. If you watch it in slo mo then you will see that fedor waited for arlovski to relax and then cam over the top with the hand. He didn’t swing wildly. In his fight with cro cop he was using counter strikes to get the better of CC and thats what he did here. The only thing lucky about it is that it knocked him out. I dont think Fedor expected a knockout from that short punch. He was ready to follow arlovski to the ground. Also i noticed that fedor ducked his head and raised his left hand so he was expecting the knee strike and knew a good way to counter. great job. Last thing. Why do ppl get off on slagging Fedor off? He is the best fighter of all time and has the best list of names on his victim list than anyone else and he beats them all at their own game. He outstruck cro cop and arlovski and owned Big Nog on the ground. Hes also the nicest guy in MMA so dont be hating so much. Arlovski can back to eeking out decisions in the UFC prelim circuit and Freddie Roach can make excuses for his rubbish perfprmances. Leave this forum to the real fans of MMA

by Jez on Jan 26, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Whether or not Fedor gets lucky is out of the questions. Fedor won. Period. Who’s gonna be his next victim, that’s what we should be debating on.

by Phasebook on Jan 27, 2009 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

next time freddie, fedor will open his eyes to make it a little harder for andrei OK?

by russiandoeboi on Jan 29, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

too easy?
 ok next time fedor will fight with his eyes open to make sure arlovski doesn’t get cheated out of the challenge
 - OK FREDDIE?

outpointing someone for the first 3 minutes (if it’s against fedor) is in a meaningless way, impressive.

but how is mma different than boxing? what does outpointing someone for 3 minutes mean in MMA

OK,
if the fight continued like that for 5 rounds then Arlovski would have won on points.
BUT,
while that CAN happen in boxing,
(where the 1st round is sometimes a blueprint for the other 14,) the
SAME PATTERN CONTINUING RARELY HAPPENS IN MMA
- ESPECIALLY AGAINST FIGHTERS LIKE FEDOR, GSP, ANDERSON SILVA,
who have many options in a fight.
plus in boxing many 6/10 punches are worth more than one 9/10 punches
- but obviously NOT without the padded gloves

by russiandoeboi on Jan 29, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

actually i don’t see arlovski being more aggresive upon rewatc hing this fight – i just see him trying (wisely to keep a distance and land some pokes. Fedor was on the other hand trying to knock Sergei’s Block Off. I was very impressed with Arlovski’s striking footwork and defense in the clinch.

The fact is that we didn’t get to see the whole range of scenario’s possible beween these 2 great fighters. That happens sometimes. Rematch would be interesting

by russiandoeboi on Jan 29, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

barnett vs. fedor
seems less likely to end so soon.

Fedor can outstrike barnett but,
barnett’s chin is very good. fedor is quicker but barnett is stronger.

fedor has not even been close to getting subbed (hunt, coleman, nog. yea not really close- i in a way wouldn’t count hunt- although that’s in hindsight).

barnett has amazing cardio for a 150+ guy.

barnett’s ground control is amazing, but i think fedor knows that and would be more readying himself for that danger, than against someone like hunt.

by russiandoeboi on Jan 29, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

barnett looked scary in his last 2 fights.

by russiandoeboi on Jan 29, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

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