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BJ Penn kicks out Spike TV production crew for 'Primetime Live'

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"I really didn’t like how I was portrayed in the first episode. It was ridiculous, actually. I told them that if you keep doing this these cameras aren’t going to come around anymore so you guys better straighten up your act…. It’s just really funny how they try to portray everything like I was a spoiled slacker and a liar [growing up], but whatever … what can you do. All you can do is kick the cameras out. They got kicked out for awhile, but they are trying to make amends."

UFC Lightweight Champion BJ Penn reveals that he and the Spike TV production crew are at loggerheads regarding his portrayal on the first episode of "UFC Primetime," which is a $1.7 million three-part promotional series for his upcoming super fight against Georges St. Pierre at UFC 94 on January 31. UFC President Dana White made a call to "The Prodigy’s" brother, JD Penn, during the premier, checking up on the Hawaiian after he got wind of an apparent vacation that BJ was taking at a critical time in his training. His trainer, Rudy Valentino, insisted it was much ado about nothing and White is simply creating drama where none exists. Apparently that set the stage for this latest development. Stay tuned to see if the two sides can makes amends before the third and final episode next week. In the meantime, enjoy episode two tonight at 10 p.m. ET on Spike TV.

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looks like the next installment is all about GSP then.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 21, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not surprised… they made it look like BJ wasnt training hard and not taking this fight seriosuly… that is the exact image he has worked hard to rid himself of. BJ BJ BJ!!

by ---Caesar--- on Jan 21, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

they kinda did make him look lke a jerk.. i have a buddy at work that catches ufc unleased, not a huge mma fan like we are, but he caught the episode and told me the next day that he wants gsp to beat the spoiled rich boy who doesn’t train.
i told him it’s just a show. i would love to see a WAR on the 31st, but this show is making HBO’s 24/7 look like garbage. just hope they keep the undeiced still undeiced insted of the gsp way

by Mikeybear2009 on Jan 21, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait – are you telling me that BJ is still training & he did not go on a vacation?

I am totally confused now

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Precisly.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

lol Anger Jack, you’ve been lied too!

by MikeD on Jan 21, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

lol since when has BJ Penn not been a spoiled rich kid? or being lazy and not training? this is all old news penn, quit your whining

by brendan on Jan 21, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ’s own mouth made him look like an ass no editing could change that

by R/p on Jan 21, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I am hearing that MMA is going to be legalized in New York by the 2nd quarter of 2009, which means March or April!

by john on Jan 21, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet…then my home state of WV will be the only state where MMA is still illegal. That’s nice…well at least we’re different :)

by BigFatJunkie on Jan 21, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I live in Philly where its still illegal!

by john on Jan 21, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

brendan ,r/p you guys speak the truth. the fact that Princess penn got some sand in her vag is proof of that. How is GSP not going to smash him?

by NameNotRequired on Jan 21, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i live in philly too, john

by adriano on Jan 21, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

thats whats up adriano. what neighborhood? Im in South Philly but I go to DREXEL U.

by john on Jan 21, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

South Philly Baby! Birthplace of Rocky Balboa and Vince Papale!

by john on Jan 21, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t kid yourself, 24/7 is still better than this show; but its getting close.

by Brandon on Jan 21, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just north of philly. I train at a gym in north philly.

by DB on Jan 21, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

bj will win on natural ability alone, now mix in his skill GSP will get more of a beat down than the first time they meet.I hope the judges remember to wipe the shit from their eyes this time and pay attention to who really wins the fight.

by c-one on Jan 21, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

DB, I spent some time working at a youth mission in North Philly (just off of Broad and fifth) back in the lat 80’s. I had a blast, good culture, great people. Is it still a pretty tough neighborhood though?

by Jrandolph on Jan 22, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah its a tough hood. For all those Philly maniacs interested, I will probably be watching Affliction at the Fox and HOund bar on 16th and Spruce…..anyone interested, come join me for a drink or 2!

by john on Jan 22, 2009 7:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey BigFatJunkie . . . at least y’all still have dogfighting. I kid, I kid. That was out of line.

by PW on Jan 22, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I would be pissed too, Spike should’ve done a better job with the show. If anyone thinks Bj Penn isn’t training and is taking vacations, then you watch too many reality shows.

by MikeD on Jan 21, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

MikeD you’ve got to relax. There is a Big Brain behind this show. They need to have some conflict, they need drama. Or else it would just be 3 episodes of All Access with Rachelle, watching them train. Who wants to see that? Same old tired workout routines. It sucks that it comes at the expense of BJ Penn, but they are just using what he gives them to work with. They didn’t make him take a few days off. He decided to do that on his own. So they decided to work that angle into the show. I mean really what fighter in their right mind would think taking a couple days off while your being filmed on TV, is not going to come off as a slacker. It’s a show bizz thing. They want to attract new viewers and get them to buy the ppv. I gotta agree with them too. Honestly when Dana White showed up, it was like a fresh of breath air. Because I hate to say it, as much as I’m a fan of both fighters, they are both kinda boring and aren’t that interesting. Their entourage isnt interesting. I think back to the 24/7 with Mayweather-De La Hoya and that was good tv. They had different and intersting stories in the show. So relax and try to enjoy the show.

by open24hrz on Jan 21, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing is this “drama” and this “conflict” you speak of on the show, is at Penn’s expense. Don’t believe me? Just look at half the posts on this thread.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

So BJ is sick & tired of the “Same old tired workout routines”?

Well if that’s true – why don’t they get a photoshoot of him in the spa?

Skipping the filming alltogether is kind of childish if you asked me

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I just thought it was funny how hardcore fans fall for this stuff, and then try to make a point like “Penn is taking vacations, his brother is lying to Dana”. I guess I’m not too much into reality tv, but I do enjoy the show for what it’s worth.

by MikeD on Jan 21, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats why BJ is the Man…..How many other uFC fighters have you seen tell the cameras to F off? War BJ!

by john on Jan 21, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

MikeD – we don’t fall for this. It’s just like when you guys believe that BJ is a god – of course he’s not but you still try to make him to be that.

by NameNotRequired on Jan 21, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

NO, I watched BJ say he was going on vacation.

by Gord on Jan 21, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I am sure that if BJ beats GSP, all those who doubt he trained will be changing their minds, because the thought of a BJ who didn’t train and still beat GSP would be too much to swollow.

by Ade on Jan 22, 2009 4:22 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ was portrayed exactly how he is…and his actions prove it. Spoiled rich Brat …

by texen_1 on Jan 21, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

breaking news horedecki is off the affliction card, couldnt get his license in time, no replace ment yet!!

by Jared on Jan 21, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW only three days to find someone thats actually in fighting condition. Hope its not someone just wanting to make a name who will not put up a good fight .

by c-one on Jan 21, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.. the production for UFC Primetime is tight. I love it.. but I see how BJ why BJ is getting tight.. at the UFC. The way it’s getting edited is showing more BJ as a super talented..the prodigy of our time.. that likes to hit up a resort during a training camp for one of the biggest MMA fights in Martial Arts History. When his Brother tried to front to Dana about what BJ was doing did look bad. It is what it is…

by PhilQNY on Jan 21, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

I personally can’t stand how drama-centric most UFC specials are. That’s why I can’t watch TUF anymore. I feel like I’m watching a friggin’ daytime soap opera half the time. Sure their production values are off the charts, but the narratives they create are dramatic BS. I like this sport for the fights, not because the UFC feels the incessant need to hype fights with fabricated drama.

by Clayton on Jan 21, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha only Penn man, only Penn.
Although I guess all you GSP dudes are gonna say nah this is bogus, Spike wouldn’t lie, Penn is just a spoiled brat.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

he is….he trains hard for a year and a half and all of a sudden he’s “going to kill” someone who has already beat him…thats called a tantrum…I know i will get slack for this as a GSP fan but please….I actually thought they portrayed BJ quite well

by McArthur on Jan 21, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I think Penn knows a little more about how to portray Penn, than you do, and he thought it was so terrible he kicked out the cameras. So ima have to disagree with you.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

thats the problem with Penn…people constantly defending him allowing him to get his own way…he’s a diva who must have everyone agree with him because he thinks he’s a god….its a joke…and he says George is a quitter…HAHA…the only reason it was being done is so the fans could catch a glimpse of BJ’s life…now they won’t get the full extent cause BJ’s unhappy…I respect your opinion but look at it for what its worth unlike BJ

by McArthur on Jan 21, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I look at the evidance and things in context, I do not think you do. Penn calls GSP a quitter in a fight if you push him past his breaking point, thats it. Am I wrong? Listen to it again and tell me otherwise. Cuz so far your arguement has consisted of essentially name calling at Penn.
And I do not think fans defending him will in any way affect him getting his way. I think it was more the fact that it is Penn’s property and the camera people are not gonna break and enter. If this is legit im sure Penn is gettin shit for it from Dana and friends.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t even think BJ was portrayed poorly in the first episode …Dana was, however, portrayed poorly and should keep the drama to a minimum…but now that BJ has thrown spike out of his house, BJ is being portryed poorly by himself and imo is coming accross as a Diva…

by McArthur on Jan 21, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

“Penn calls GSP a quitter in a fight if you push him past his breaking point, thats it.”

Well – he did NOT succeed last time – he did not push GSP past the breaking point – close maybe. And yes – he may think he can do it this time – but GSP has tendency to get better & learn from past mistakes – so IMO – Penn will not come even close to breaking GSP this time around

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Anger Jack, what i was saying was that we the viewer are tired of watching the same old workout routines. The “sledgehammer to the tractor tire” the “pushing the car while its in neutral” “running on the streets with an ipod while cars pass by” “flipping the tractor tire” and “Punching the raw meat in the freezer”.

by open24hrz on Jan 21, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt it, BJ knows how to hype a fight and him acting pissed is probably his part in the whole thing.

by Gord on Jan 21, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely agree. This is all an act. For 1.7 mil Dana will get back the PPV’s he needs.

by Victory is Ours on Jan 21, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

So … the footage with Penn on vacation in Kona are all special effects?

by bostonmmajunkie on Jan 21, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Dude Kona is on the same freakin small island Penn lives on, a drive away from where he lives. He could of just been chillen there for a couple hours after a day of hard trainin.
What do you want him to be locked in his gym or house?

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Naa – lock him in a cage

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Good one.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

lol wow people amaze me

by MikeD on Jan 21, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Its prolly going to be shown on the show so and it will just build the anticipation to the next show and the fight. Its a good way to boost ratings even more. He was prolly mad but he knows its all about how to sell the show and fight.

by ehoglund on Jan 21, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

BJ didn’t look too good in the first episode I thought…

by Nick on Jan 21, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

I guess this shows Penn is a quitter. Instead of trying to work harder and come off as a hard worker, he bitched out and quit. Way to go BJ!

by Mc19 on Jan 21, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

I guess this shows Penn is a quitter. Instead of trying to work harder and come off as a hard worker, he cried about it and quit. Way to go BJ!

by Mc19 on Jan 21, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

These cameramen really aren’t at fault. It’s the producers and editors that BJ should blame. But in any case, I guess as a fighter, he really doesn’t know this stuff, hehe!

Conspiracy theory: I think Dana has a hand in how BJ was portrayed because he thinks he was slacking.

by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Jan 21, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Well sounds like BJ has laundry list of people to blame;

Conspiracy theory: The only name missing from the list is BJ Penn himself

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL at BJ whining.

The cameras showed that he was taking a 5 day vacation, which actually happenned.

The cameras showed his brother lying to Dana about the vacation, which actually happenned.

The cameras showed Penn calling GSP a quitter. I’d love to know how that is out of context.

The show portrayed Penn as an insanely talented fighter who hasn’t always been dedicated, which BJ and his brother admitted.

by Hardcharger on Jan 21, 2009 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

LOL your gullible.

by MikeD on Jan 21, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

how is he gullible???

by McArthur on Jan 21, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Gullible about what, exactly?

Did Penn not leave town for Kona?

Did he not say GSP was a quitter? I’m sure it was all fancy editing.

by Hardcharger on Jan 21, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

“The cameras showed that he was taking a 5 day vacation, which actually happenned.”

“The cameras showed his brother lying to Dana about the vacation, which actually happenned.”

A vacation in his “home” town? Lying to Dana? So you’re saying there’s a camera guy following Dana around, and there’s another camera guy following Bj’s brother, and coincidentally the camera guys caught them talking to each other. Please. I’ll let you enjoy your show…just don’t fall for the “drama” and try to make a point about a fighter.

by MikeD on Jan 21, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ left Hilo, he wasn’t in his home town.

The camera crew was the one who told Dana about the vacation, which is why Dana called. Since they were the ones who told Dana, it wasn’t hard for them to have cameras ready to film the phone call.

And none of that explains JD Penn’s attempts to deny the vacation, which is strange if the vacation was actually warranted.

There’s no points to be made about Penn. The show illuminated what we already know.

by Hardcharger on Jan 21, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike D is right…you other guys are the most gullible people on the face of the Earth.

by introvert on Jan 21, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The quiting thing WAS out of context. He calls GSP a quiter, talking about how if you push him hard enough in a fight you can push past his breaking point and GSP essentially, quites.

In the episodes, right after Penn says that, GSP starts talking about BJ is rich, GSP is the one who works a bunch of jobs and worked to be where he is now, giving the impression to the general public that BJ was attacking GSP’s person and calling him a quitter at life in general. Which is why people like you hate on him, cuz you eat this shit up on spike.

Who lied about being on vacation? Everybody is entitled to their rest period, any nutritionist or anybody that konws about physical fitness will tell you that resting properly and long enough is just as essential as working out itself.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

very good point.

by matthew on Jan 21, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Anomaly – can you give me reference to physical fitness article which tells that you need to rest for 5 days – in 3 weeks before the fight (bonus points if it is not written by BJ Penn)

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he was attacking BJ’s person….he called him a quitter….

by McArthur on Jan 21, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Look at my above post. I’m right, your wrong.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you? 8 years old?

by kitsunex on Jan 21, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Calling GSP wa quitter was not out of context. He flat out said GSP is a quitter. It’s hilarious and hypocritical given the exact opposite was true in their first fight.

And JD Penn was lying to Dana about the vacation. If it was no big deal, and it was BJ really needing down time, there’s no reason for JD to be as evasive as he was.

by Hardcharger on Jan 21, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha in proving your point you twist the facts. Evasive? Nah bro, the truth, you assume he is lieing and use that to prove your point, does it ever occur to you that JD was just tellin the truth?
People are gettin crazy about this vacation bullshit. Penn went a drive away from his house for the day or something, and now he is on vacation not worrying about the fight? Freakin a man.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t twist the facts. JD tried to deny the vacation repeatedly until Dana made it obvious that he already knew. Strange behavior.

Penn left training for 5 days. Whether he needed it or not is debatable, but that’s what happenned. The time off was anything but editing.

LOL at you trying to claim that it was clever editing.

by Hardcharger on Jan 21, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

So, you think it was just a coincidence that there happened to be a camera in Dana’s face while he spoke to BJ’s brother….while his brother was in Hilo with another camera in his face? lmao.

by introvert on Jan 21, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

When they film documentaries like this they have camera’s on everybody at all time…. all key players. You think they only have one camera or what? This isn’t a low budget production Intro.

by Psyqo78!!!!!!!!!!!!!®™ on Jan 21, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You are all being played. This is all for ratings. BJ knows what he is doing when it comes to promoting his own fights, so does Dana.

by DB on Jan 21, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

The closer this fight gets the more I think GSP is going to beat the $h!t out of BJ. Could be completely wrong. We all know Georges is going to come in fantastic shape and intent on beating the snot out of BJ and shutting him up once and for all.

by RobH86 on Jan 21, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

BJ — The episode shows you taking a vacation during a training camp. It also shows GSP not taking a vacation during training camp. Your bro also lied for you while you were on said vacation. People formed their opinions based on something that you actually did which was documented on video. Get over it, man. Shutting down the production is not going to make people think you’re a better man.

by Fidel Cashflow on Jan 21, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

It could of showed GSP at his grandma’s and said “look GSP is on vacation, he’s not trainin” would you have eaten that up to and gotten all pissed at GSP? Probably not, just cuz BJ is a FREAKIN drive away from his house does not make him on “vacation”. He is trainin, and part of train involves a rest period, cant train without giving your body a chance to recover.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys eat this shit up time and time again using the thing that is in question(the episodes) to prove itself. Are you really this ceseptable to propoganda? Do you realize maybe there is more than the episodes show? LIke maybe Penn driving home from Kona that same day and training?

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Reading these forums just makes me shake my head at US public schools.

WTF is a ceseptable?!

by bostonmmajunkie on Jan 21, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course I realize there’s much the episode doesn’t show. BJ himself said he’s taking almost a week off, which is something that does not seem to be industry standard.

Besides, it doesn’t really matter what goes on during that hype machine of a show. Sometimes someone comes out looking like a bad guy. It happens. All that matters is what happens come fight time.

by Fidel Cashflow on Jan 21, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

So are you saying that he was actually just there for a few hours and the show fabricated his taking a few DAYS off from vacation? I don’t think even BJ claimed that. He just got upset about how the clips chosen and editing overall portrayed him as a rich spoiled slacker. Personally, I think it’s a whole bunch of drama about nothing consequential.

Either way I think a post above had it right, BJ knows how to promote his fights shows, and this charade of throwing out the cameras and then making amends will definitely get people to watch to see what happens in the show and then the fight!

by Mad A on Jan 21, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not saying he was there for a few hours. Didn’t he say he was taking days off? I really wish I recorded that episode.

It doesn’t matter though. It may all be hoax to sell the fight. Playing the bad guy works well from time to time.

BOSTONMMAJUNKIE — you’re right about the spelling and grammar errors that plague forums like this, but it’s hilarious.

by Fidel Cashflow on Jan 21, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

BOSTONEMAMAJUNKER:
Get the fell ouuta hear wit your’e speller bulsth if yer not goning speak MMA. Nobody thinks you’re clever & you’re not gonna get any “hahaha’s” in reply.

by The Anomaly on Jan 21, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re wrong on that, man. Everytime I read these posts I keep thinking the same thing…why can’t people spell or use words correctly? Oh yea, just because you speak about fighting means you should have extremely bad grammar. So..haha from me to bostonmma, that was pretty funny.

by slim473 on Jan 21, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I am mentally a grammar nazi. I choose not to call people out on it( except for the loose=lose thing ) because it becomes tiresome and counter-productive. Afterall, this is a MMA site not The University of Phoenix. Not everyone is a superior typist,people flub and make mistakes. If I was going to call someone out I definitely would make the mistake of using “yea” instead of yeah, during that process. Just saying……..

by Psyqo78!!!!!!!!!!!!!®™ on Jan 21, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

There I go….“would” = wouldn’t

by Psyqo78!!!!!!!!!!!!!®™ on Jan 21, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Anomaly, are you serious? I’m surprised you spelled “anomaly” correctly. What is “speak MMA” even mean? You’re right, I don’t speak MMA because there is no such thing as a MMA language. Your whole reply seems to be written by a mentally handicapped 11 year old. In fact, my head sort of hurt after reading and trying to understand it.

by bostonmmajunkie on Jan 22, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

You believe everything you see on reality TV? You know they can show any footage they want right..Plus they can spin the story in any direction they want…Bjpenn taking a break after hard training? Or Bj penn taking a vacation? they choose.. and gulible people believe all that they see.

by matthew on Jan 21, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

So enlighten us about the aspects of BJ Penn we did not see plz

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Im just saying dont believe everything you see on reality tv cause would ussually making things more dramatic then they have to be to boost ratings

by matthew on Jan 21, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s add some perspective to this…Dana is trying to sell a product, the BJ/GSP fight. BJ is trying to sell a product, himself as a fighter and most importantly (for this discussion) Spike is trying to sell a television show.

Television shows sell (attract viewers) when they are interesting or the viewer is emotional invested. Congrats, Spike you have edited the first show in such a way that people are pissed with either Dana or BJ. You have know created controversy. Controversy sells, job well done.

Dana, you have also helped to create some controversy with the call to JD. BJ looks like an ass to the casual viewer. Human nature dictates that we want to see the guy acting like an ass, get beat. We also watch train wrecks, etc., we just don’t admit to it.

BJ, I believe you are genuinely pissed about how the show was edited. However, throwing out the camera crew is a brilliant strategic move. Again, this creates controversy. The average/casual viewer doesn’t know this tidbit of information, yet. However, Spike will tease this prior to the show tonight and people will watch to see a poor defenseless camera crew thrown out by a pissed off mixed martial artist.

 Win, win, and win. BJ and Spike will kiss and make up (or attorneys will get involved) in time for BJ to be included in the third and final installment.

by Jeff on Jan 21, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

Fully agree with you

by Mad A on Jan 21, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ vs. Spike’s camera crew – that’s a fight I want to see

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL @ open24hrz Honestly when Dana White showed up, it was like a “fresh of breath air”.

by Don on Jan 21, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

stupid i wouldnt be surprised to see bj try and leave, after he fulfills his contract

by Jared on Jan 21, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

EGO COMBAT

Frank Mir v BJ Penn

 winner?

 This is a close call. I’d have to give it to B.J. in a narrow split decision involving licking the blood off of his gloves. But the Mir comment of ten ppl on the planet beating him is hard to ignore I admit.

 But B.J? Seriously dude, you’re worried about a TV crew’s portrayal of you in a prefight show. Le sigh. This guy is the Effing bomb, I just wish he didn’t act like it all the time.

 GSP

by sirchokemout on Jan 21, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

10 – he’s getting humble – I would at least expect him to narrow it down to 5 or better yet – 2!!!

by Anger Jack on Jan 21, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Josh Barnett has them both beat together. In his last interview when asked if he had any closing words or wanted to thank anyone, he said he just wanted to thank his own web site.

by Gord on Jan 21, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that’s some set of stones.

by sirchokemout on Jan 21, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think they asked if he wanted to thank anyone or plug anything, and he decided to plug. But I have to think BJ takes the Ego battle, Mir said 10 people, BJ would have said 0 and he would fight them all at the same time.

by baby Eddie on Jan 21, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but shows like this arent to attract hardcore mma fans….the drama they create is for people who arent real fans….this is their way to create more interest….people are gonna tune in to see “the lazy spoilt” guy get his ass kicked….and fans will tune in because they know how amazing this fight will be….so ufc wins on both counts

by irishlilpete on Jan 21, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

BJ is 4-2-1 in his last 7 fights. His last three wins were against sherk 2-1 in last three Stevenson who is 1-2 in his last three and Jens Pulver is 1-5 in his last 6 fights. Combined record for those last three fighters is 4-8. Why do so many of you people think BJ is a god? is it because he thinks so and talks so much shit about being the best that you buy into it?? if thats the case then i hope you guys are also praising Tito as the best fighter of all time. BJ could have been one of the best fighters of all time but he is lazy, doesnt train, he s going to make a thousand excuses when he loses in two weeks and then hopefully he ll retire when florian beats him in 5. This fight will undoubtedly go similarly to the last fight. GSP controlling everything in the fight until BJ gases and will then be pounded out. Please please watch the first fight again for any doubters and watch the fight without any sound. As soon as you watch it without Rogan kissing Penns ass every single minute there is a compliment!! GSP took him down 4-5 times in the 2nd and 3rd rounds he controlled him handily and easily easily one the decision minus the eye gouge that penn gave him in the first. GSP will win this fight, as expected, not a big deal here, hes going to go in there, control penn, beat penn ,get paid, train, beat alves by outwrestling him while BJ loses to Florian and then will beat Silva and be P4P the best in the UFC —Fedor still reigns king of all

by jackel on Jan 21, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

what are you talking about???? His draw with Uno was like 6 yeaqrs ago, not in his last 7 fights, try doing some research dude. Go to another website besides the UFC and check his record, his last 7 fights look like this 4-3. Wins over Sherk, Stevenson, Pulver, and Gracie (at 185). His losses are to Hughes, GSP, and Machida at HVWT 2 of the 3 were decisions to bigger opponents and the 3rd was being won by BJ til BJ gassed to a guy he already beat “decisivly”. And GSP didnt fair so well either, the only of the 3 to go to the hospital after the fight. And 100% of the LTWTs on the planet would also lose to Machida, at least Penn even tried to fight a guy like that, and took him to a decision. Did more to him than Tito did, that should say enough. Lets go back to his 8th fight, beating another Gracie at 185 like he did Renzo. His 9th was against Dwane Ludwig, the guy that finaly beat Jens back in the day when BJ couldnt, yea, he couldnt get Jens to rematch him so he beat the guy that beat him in less than 1 minute. #10 Hughes in under a round. 11 Gomi, nothing need be said there. so going back 11 fights he is what now . . . Hold let me count since you cant . . . 8-3. Whats GSP going back 11 fights . . . 9-2. WOWOWOWWOWOWWWWWWOOOOOW!!!!!! So much of a difference!!! I cant believe these guys are even fighting!! BJ doesnt deserve it!! heonly beat both the guys that beat GSP, nearly beat GSP himself and has one twice as many UFC belts as GSP in twice as many weight classes while fighting in 4 times as many weight classes. BJ BJ BJ!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jan 21, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

everything you said is incorrect dude. Read my post thats being moderated, you dont even have his record right LMAO! Maybe people like you dont think hes god cause you dont even know anything about him LoL, try doing some research on the guy at a differnt website than UFC.com LoL, You do know they dont post entire records on there right? Only UFC and new Pride fighters get there3 Pride careers on there like Hendo, Wandi. His draw was like 6 years ago bro, how could it be in his last 7 fights???

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jan 21, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey dummy, they dont post pride statistics on UFC. and youre right he isnt 4-2-1 in his last 7 hes 4-3-0, even worse. his current record is 13-4-1, very good, not god like. Sean sherk is 33-3, Kenny florian is 11-3, both fighters have better win percentages in BJs weight class but arent considered these god like warriors because they dont ride the hype train like BJ.

by baby Eddie on Jan 21, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey dummy, thats why i said go to another web site besides the UFC, can you read??? Maybe you shouldnt be blogging if you cant read ya know . . .

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jan 21, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

and i said he was 4-3 . . . my bad bro, i didnt know you really cant read, my bad dude, i dont make fun of the uneducated ya knwo, might as well be blind. Again my bad dude = )

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jan 21, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

that post is chock full of mma math and even says serra was considered elite! OK, BJ is a great fighter but a god? Please.

by baby Eddie on Jan 21, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

god? who’s talking about god?

by matthew on Jan 21, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam G:

“Maybe people like you dont think hes god cause you dont even know anything about him LoL,”

by baby Eddie on Jan 21, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That could be old footage of him for all we know!

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 21, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

BJ penn is such a d-bag. I’ll be glad when GSP takes out the garbage.

by Bill Maher on Jan 21, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

The Problem is when BJ loses to GSP the first time and loses to Matt Hughes, he throws up the I wasnt training, I wasnt focused but now I am routine, and doesnt want other people to portray him that way. Guaranteed if he loses, he will say “oh I wasnt focused you saw me I was on vacation, but now Im a new fighter” The thing is that BJ has never been as good as people make him out to be, hes always been the same person.

by baby Eddie on Jan 21, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

No the cameras were spot on even his family knew he shouldnt have been goin on vacation and h didnt answer danas call in the parking lot…so hes def not as hard a worker as GSP and far more of a quitter Although its not BJs fault he was born with money and uses it so the spoilt thing is out of order

CAnt w8 for GSP to take his ass OUT!

by Randy for Couture on Jan 21, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

This is a total non issue. No way this will have an impact on the fight. BJ is taking this fight seriously and it’s gonna be a good fight. I think they’re trying to make BJ into a character on this show. He’s the brash bad guy who’s a super talent and thinks he doesn’t have to train hard. I know BJ may have some less than desirable traits surrounding his work ethic, but it’s mostly just tricks of editing. BJ will be prepared and so will GSP. Not that it matters, but I got GSP by decision. If it’s finished early BJ has it, but I don’t see him winning on the score cards and I don’t see GSP finishing him anywhere.

by DB on Jan 21, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

bring back rachelle to do this show and just look good.. whatever so bj penn stands up to dana white about something, wait havent you all been saying someone needed to? yeah you have but now bj is just being dramatic? whatever who cares if he trains or not we’ll find out the 31st how hard he worked

by randy murders on Jan 21, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

BJ " I am going to kill the camera crew, I am ready to die camera crew I hate you".

by Bigmcmac on Jan 21, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

lol….good one!!!

by tank on Jan 22, 2009 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ PENN NUCCCCCAAAAAA…LETS GET IT HOMEY!!!!!! PRODIGY ALL THE WAY

by pride 4 ever on Jan 21, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

BJ Penn is a total PUSSY!!! He talks shit knowing he can’t back it up… that’s why he took that “vacation” so he’ll have an excuse when GSP beats his ass. He’ll say he was hurt the whole time, but fought anyway because of the pressure… BULLSHIT Penn – you just suck & you need an out.

You are a pussy who has no honor & deserves no respect. You talked shit about Sherk before that fight & then tried to say “no hard feelings” and that it was all just to hype the fight – I’m not buying it.

BJ Penn is an over-hyped punk who needs to have someone teach him manners since obviously that bitch of a mom didn’t know how to do it – probabloy cause she was too busy servicing the boys at Hilo for beer money when she didn’t even drink.

BJ Penn can’t stop GSP from destreoying him & when it happens the myth of the “Prodigy” will be exposed & people will see Penn as the punk bitch he has always been!!

by Diesel on Jan 21, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

bj is such a spoiled punk…he doesnt even deserve a title shot at 170,,,after gsp kills him 3rd round tko fat bj will b havein heart attack by then

then we can all pray ken-flo taps him out

by juggalomike on Jan 21, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

WOW BJ talking trash about quitting as I recall he walked out on every fan he had got over weight little rich fat boy and turned his back on everybody , He cant even have a converstion with out trashing somebody Oh wait yes got it now no class thats . insulting is all he knows how to do.

by Scott on Jan 21, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW BJ talking trash about quitting as I recall he walked out on every fan he had got over weight little rich fat boy and turned his back on everybody , He cant even have a conversation with out trashing somebody Oh wait yes got it now no class that’s . insulting is all he knows how to do. spoiled little fat boy

by Scott on Jan 21, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Bj Penn should worry more about training rather then just shooting his mouth off and insulting people. cant even talk with out shooting his mouth about others not once have you seen GSP insult anybody one is a spoiled brat the other has class . but that bj for ya .

by Scott on Jan 21, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Bj’s been training since July people, this show is stupid. Bj’s just hyping this fight, what’s he supposed to say when some asks him a question like “what are you going to be thinking when you see George on the other side of the octagon” uh jee I hope I have a good fight. If you don’t have that killer instinct you’re in the wrong sport.

by Parks1 on Jan 21, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

ok I just saw the second episode and I believe Spike tried really hard to make up for the first episode and showed BJ’s humble side .. I guess the third episode is on… regardless this is gonna be a killer show.

by commoner on Jan 21, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

I agree, the second episode tried to show BJ in a more positive light. Still I liked GSP’s side better! It was all busineess for GSP.

by bostonmmajunkie on Jan 22, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea This was definately a better episode, both are working VERY hard.
ALTHOUGH, BJ says he’s been training the same way for 10 years and why would anyone question his work ethic. Well i hope to god he isn’t training now like he has been during his past decade of MMA.
GSP’s appartment (house under construction) aint too shabby from what we can see.
ALSO, are the big dogs of GSP’s camp only coming in for “the last 2 weeks” ? hope not.

And where is Master Trainer Greg Jackson at!??

Should be an amazing and historic event, CAN NOT WAIT!!

Don’t really care who wins as both are 2 of my favorites!!but it would be cool to see BJ hold 2 belts, in the UFC.

Let the speculation stop, noone can call it, it all depends on who has the better night, either won can win on a given night!!

WAR Epic Fight!!

by SoCalStunNa on Jan 22, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

GSP’s training camp (other fighters he trains with) are a JOKE!!! Penns options to spar etc with in his camp are dudes you never even heard of, its like being in the NBA and taining with guys at rucker park in the offtime. Nate Marquardt . . . Was that just serious? Tony Dezousa Puts every one of those cats to shame! Oh my god i was laughing sooo hard, Nate a #5 in the world??? Wha!! In what? Worst losses to Anderson Silva?? Rashad, The Dean of Mean, you gotta be kidding me! The main person GSP should be working with is Mark Laimon and i didnt see him anywhere . . . Where are the ground specialist?!? In Brazil, not with GSP, yea, good luck George(s), and if you think that anyone of those guys sitting around the din table with you are better than BJ Penn at any one aspect of MMA, you’re gonna need luck! They sure “pushed him to the limit” in that segment, never saw George so beat up and tired LoL, oh wait, yea i have, when he faught the natural LTWT while he was out of shape, BJ Penn. PennWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR PEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jan 22, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I think (Adam G] is actually BJ Penn.

by Endo Fan on Jan 22, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

the most irritating aspect of this fight is that bj penn has done absolutlely nothing to deserve a title shot in the incredibly stacked welterweight division. sure hes the undisputed lightweight king(until florian beats him), but there is a weak arguement for bj to get a shot at the welterweight crown as well. i do agree these two should fight 100%, but i think its unecessary to have one of the two fighters belts on the line. a “superfight” would have sufficed. perhaps at a catchweight. the reason for this arguement is simplt that bj penn, love him or hate him, doesnt really deserve such a distinction among all the other contenders in the WW division,. correct me if im wrong, but i believe bj penn was chased out of the WW div. penn lost to both gsp and hughes before leaving for LHW. thats not overly impressive IMO. when u take into account that hughes has only beaten chris lytle since he beat bj, it becomes even less impressive. IMO gsp has faced much stiffer competition since the first fight, and bj penn while dominating has faced a much less stacked and smaller division of contenders. penn has beaten quality guys in his career, but latlely hes been preying on a smaller weightclass. the main point is that well im as excited as anyone for this fight, it just doesnt make sense for penn to get a shot. im pretty dam sure gsp wins this one convincingly, but i also think u should have at least a one fight win streak in the weight class b4 u can even be considered. for example, a # WW contender match with thiago alves and penn. i could actually see alves taking that one prett easily. after a long post my point is that penn isnt deserving whatsoever, and its going to shown painfully clear on superbowl weekend.

by tank on Jan 22, 2009 3:54 AM EST reply actions  

Stupid spoiled brat.

by Lester the Pimp on Jan 22, 2009 4:50 AM EST reply actions  

I gotta say, both fighters are 2 of the best EVER, GSP is like a machine, he works hard on adding to his game every day. However, I think some fighters like Silva, Torres and BJ are just naturally gifted fighters. GSP has more to his game Id say, he is more athletic, better wrestling, stronger, more explosive and bigger than BJ. But BJ definatley has better striking, submissions, and takedown defense than anyone GSP has faced. I mean I’ve rarely seen a well conditioned BJ Penn get taken to the ground and kept there for any amount of time, he just hops across the ring on one leg!! And lets not forget, he has fought against light, welter, middle, AND heavyweight and held his own. Whatever you might think of him he IS a natural born fighter. GSP is unreal at times, he out-wrestles wrestlers, out-strikes strikers, and from what Ive heard his brazilian JJ is up there with the best nowadays. He’s just an unbelievable professional athlete. He isn’t a fighter in the same bracket as BJ though in that he won’t go to war with a dangerous opponent if he can avoid it, he’d work the takedowns and submit or get the decision. I dnt think either fighter will get beaten up, BJs never been beaten up and neither really has GSP, theyve been beaten sure, but not like wot silva done to franklin or anything like that. I reckon submission, straight KO, or maybe decision. Too close to call who though.

by Fab on Jan 22, 2009 7:41 AM EST reply actions  

Great post Fab. No matter what you say about Penn, you can’t deny that he has some intangible, that he is greater than the sum of his parts. Sure, you look at GSP and think athletic, strong, quick, explosive, incredibly well-rounded, but does anyone really think GSP is going to KILL BJ Penn?

I guess we’ll see. Man, what a monster fight this is going to be.

by Kansas on Jan 22, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow…Some of the posts on here make me laugh, especially the bad grammar stuff. I understand the grammar to be honest, but the spelling has just got to be checked. I mean, if you don’t know open up a word document type the word and spell check it for crying out loud.

Anyway, my thoughts on the first two shows. A lot of folks complain that BJ was made to look like a bad guy. It was done by design. In every fight there needs to be a good guy and a bad guy. It’s much easier to make BJ look like a bad guy than GSP. Especially with the stuff he was saying. Lots of people talk about editing, but the fact is he did say and do everything that they showed.

Vacation time – I’m not a fighter but maybe he did need the time off. To think he’s lazy and not going to be ready for the fight is straight up RETARDED. He’s been griping about the loss ever since it happened. His ego won’t let him forget it. He’s been obsessing about it for quite a while now. This is his chance at redemption. Personally I bet he took a month off after the Sherk fight talked to Dana and told him he wanted GSP. He’s probably been training since then. Penn is going to come in to the fight in good shape. The only thing is that I think a Penn in great shape is still not on par with GSP’s cardio.

I really think that the second episode was a laying it on a little bit thick about him being a super-dad and family man. I think people forget that we don’t see everything about their training camps as well, some people think BJ’s being lazy and some think GSP is only working with the guys from Greg Jackson’s camp, they aren’t going to show everything.

Anyway, I’ve posted who I think will win the fight about a hundred times so I won’t mention it again, but one thing is for sure…I can’t wait for the fight. Not even real interested in the final episode because they are both quite boring like other posters said. GSP is like a fighting robot that only fights and trains for fights. BJ is a guy that trains, relaxes and talks smack…A LOT of smack.

by Shadyone33 on Jan 22, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

I would have read the rest of your post but after you insulted everyone for being stupid in your first paragraph I was done. If you want people to read your posts maybe try insulting us in the last paragraph.

by Spyder on Jan 22, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Just people that don’t know how to spell. You know…Like how you spelled knows without the k?

by Shadyone33 on Jan 22, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to love BJ, since all this hype about the fight started he has been such a jerk that I have lost some respect for him. He acts like an immature little kid that, I guess thats a by product of never having to be resposible for yourself in your life. Being rich and never having to work or be resposible isnt always a good thing and hope BJ gets the beating of a life time, then he can apoligize to GSP for being such a jerk. Dont forget BJ lovers, he has to gain wieght to move up which will make him a half a step slower, GSP is in the zone at this wieght and will be bigger, faster and stronger than BJ. Who nows maybe BJ is scared cause I have never heard him talk so much shit before. Most of the guys say, that the more shit you talk the less confident you are.

by Spyder on Jan 22, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I see a lot of newer fans (I’m not going to say TUF fans) who say that BJ is over-rated. I can even understand a little, because if i’d only been a fan for 2-3 years I may think the same thing.

So I am going to try not being condescending, and am actually going to try explaining to you why he is so highly regarded. I became a die-hard MMA fan about a year before his debut so I think I am in a good position for this.

Firstly, his BJJ game and credentials are as good as anybody in the game. This is why he is called the prodigy, the first US fighter to win the gold in Brazil.

So following his short and sensational career as a BJJ fighter he turned to MMA, and fans were already talking about him – before he had even fought. He was so highly regarded that his debut was in the UFC!

His opponent was Joey Gilbert, a gimme. BJ as expected dominated Gilbert.

Around this time Jens Pulver had just won the LW title, and the UFC was trying to get a superfight for him. So they brought in Din Thomas.

Din Thomas had fought all over the world, he was a known top class fighter and had stopped Jens Pulver previously. Not only that but he gave Caol Uno a hell of a fight in his only loss.

Din’s UFC debut was against Penn. The vast majority of people thought that this was a gimme for Din before his big rematch with Jens, and in truth that was probably Zuffa’s plans.

BJ Penn at only 22, and in only his second MMA fight KO’d Thomas in a couple of minutes. Trust my guys this was sensational at the time – Think Gonzaga-Cro Cop (only to a lesser extent because Thomas didn’t have so many nut-huggers)

The next fight for BJ was probably to punish him for ruining the UFC’s plans

It is hard to remember/believe, but at the time Uno was recognised as a top 3 fighter, and a guy who on his day could beat anybody in the world.

BJ Penn’s destruction of Uno was probably the biggest ‘coming-out party’ in MMA history. He KO’d him in 11 seconds!

As an example could you imagine a 22 year old guy with only 2 fights destroying Gomi in 11 seconds?

That is what it was like.

I liken it to Sokoudjo this year, or Shogun in 2005. A metoric rise to fame like no other.

Uno had beaten Iha, Thomas, Sato twice and he had been overwhelmed in seconds by an in-experienced kid who was supposedly a grappler.

I remember the net at this time, and BJ Penn was probably the most talked about guy in the sport.

His next fight was with Pulver, a close decision loss. However he proved he was more than a match for the champion by having a picture-perfect armbar applied as the round ended.

Even though he lost he proved that he was no flash in the pan.

His next 3 fights were underwhelming, facing Creighton, Serra and Uno in lackluster affairs. The rematch with Uno was so controversial, and I still can not fathom how he didn’t win the title in that fight. This gave fans sympathy for Penn.

At this time Penn was pissed, and vowed to prove that he was the number one guy in the world.

So he went out and on his own money put together a fight with unbeaten Takanori Gomi. You know how these days everybody makes threads “Who’d win Sherk or Kid Yamamoto?” etc

This was the same thing. A dream fight for fans between two guys in different organisations.

Unfortunately Gomi lost a decision to Hansen just over a month before the superfight, which made the fight anti-climatic.

It was still highly anticipated though, and Penn dominated Gomi. In a way which Gomi has never been dominated before or since. This is another easy thing to overlook, but directly after the Penn fight, Gomi signed for Pride and dominated for a couple of years. Just a testament to how good BJ truly is.

Following that Penn returned to the UFC and announced that he was going up in weight to fight Hughes.

Matt Hughes at that time was honestly viewed as Fedor is now. He was the top P4P guy in the world and was seen unbeatable.

Fans worldwide thought this was a huge mistake and there were threads on sherdog with titles such as ‘RIP BJ’ etc

What happened is the equivalent of Chuck Liddell moving to HW and dominating Fedor. It was unfathomable.

Writing this it is really hitting home how easy it is to forget the situations etc, how easy it is to downplay a win a few years later.

BJ lost a lot of fans with his next move – myself included. UFC warned him that as champion he could not fight in other organisations – he ignored them and went to K1.

Bang Ludwig was a rising superstar at the time, he was riding high with wins in his last two fights over Pulver and Sudo. Ludwig-Penn was the fight fans wanted to see, and they got it.

Like man vs boy, Bang was dominated and BJ Penn cemented his status as the P4P king.

In another of those easy to forget things, Rodrido Gracie was viewed as the next great Gracie. He was undefeated and coming off a huge win over Mach Sakurai.

When Penn announced he was moving up to MW to fight him people honest to god thought he was crazy.

He did though, and dominated the next great Gracie.

His next move was to crazy even for him. I remember when it was announced he moving to HW to fight undefeated sensation Machida there were people saying they were going to stop being fans of his because he was too ir-rational.

Fears were confirmed, and Penn lost. However it was a razor-thin decision that could easily have gone his way.

Think about it. Machida has dominated everybody he has fought, including brutal stoppages of Bonnar and Franklin, he is currently considered the biggest prospect in the LHW division. Yet he barely beat a guy fighting at least 50 pounds over his ideal weight. You guys still wanna say that BJ is over-rated?

I will not go into his next 3 fights because I assume that you guys know what happened.

Personally I groan everytime I read that Penn is over-rated. I he an MMA superstar, and one of the elite fighters of all time.

He has beaten 7 fighters who at the time were considered elite, Not only has he beaten them, he has dominated all but one (Serra)

Thomas
Uno
Serra
Ludwig
Gomi
Gracie
Hughes

So please next time you wanna type that Penn is over-rated, remember this post.

There is never an easier time to tell when a fan is uneducated, and when he explains that he doesn’t know why Penn is so respected.

by GORANDY on Jan 22, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

He talked more trash to Sherk than anyone, and they hung out after the fight. Sounds like someone who just tries to hype a fight to me. The thing about the show that pisses me off, they show GSP training martial arts since he was a kid, but nothing about BJ winning the BJJ world championships at such a young age. Looks unbalanced to me.

by Parks on Jan 22, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve read every single one of these blogs and enjoyed reading most of them. The blogger who stands out the most of course is the one and only ((adamg)) .I laughed my ass off reading his posts, not to be disrespectful but with all the exclamation marks and his feistiness, you would think he has a crush on penn. God I hope he has an ambulance on speed dial for jan 31 I can him having a heart attack if bj loses.

Some people keep saying he fought machida at heavyweight weight and just recently I saw the weight was 187 in pride, machida looked horrible in that fight, sluggish nothing like he is today. The fight was so boring I could’nt even watch the whole thing.

Penn is a really emotional and eccentric guy, very talented especially with his hands and his flexablility. I just watched ufc 63 yesterday when he fought hughes, and his sprawl was unreal. I’ll be honest though seeing hughes pounding penns face after trapping his arms was very satisfying, I had to watch it a few times, as I flat out don’t like penn. Just like all the gsp haters must have relished watching serra pound gsp’s face into the mat while gsp couldn’t defend himself.

I think the difference between penns fight and gsp’s fight was penn could’nt stop getting punched in the face because his arms were pinned down but he wasn’t rocked. Gsp’s was completely f**ked up, his equalibrim was gone and wasn’t even blocking the punches, big john should have stopped it earlier. Gsp knew he was finished so he tapped, big deal. I’m sure penn has tapped thousands of times before, any one with a brain knows if they can’t get out of a situation you tap or something going to break or you get rendered unconscious. Penn was’nt even close to being unconscious gsp was, but if a fighter can’t intelligently defend himself the ref has to stop the fight, which big john should have done sooner in gsp’s case.

I found both episodes amusing, I’ve seen ufc edit things before and take things out of context and don’t blame penn for being pissed. Dana is a prick and is just trying to stir the pot, gsp is the good guy, penn is the bad guy. I found it funny how when penn was going to call it quites all of a sudden he’s this family man, and they let penn speak about how the previous episode was making him look bad and misleading. I think they balanced it out nicely as they kind of made gsp’s camp look not so great with jackson no were to be found but I’m pretty damn sure he’s there. I look forward to episode 3 it should be good. To be completely honest I have no idea what to expect in this fight or who wins only that I want gsp to embarrass penn and sent him back to the light weight division with his tail between his legs. :P

by nathan on Jan 22, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Holy shit gorandy that must have taken hours to put that together. Penn is good but he’s clearly no anderson silva. Over rated, maybe only time will tell, his history in the ufc isn’t super impressive to me so far. Being a world champion bjj fighter, kick boxer, wrestler doesn’t mean too much if you can’t trasition them into MMA. Penn is a great fighter but his resume of 13-4 is underwelming. Fact, since gsp last fought penn, penn tried to submit hughes and almost did but ended up losing by tko in the third, apparently he injured his rib before taking huges back which is why hughes beat him in the third round. Since then gsp beat hughes twice once by tko and the second by an arm bar. So right now its 1 hughes 1 penn and its 2 gsp and 1 hughes. Both guys subbed hughes but penn did it the first time buy rocking hughes badly and breaking his hand and gsp did it easily without rocking him first. Just something to think about, like gsp said this is MMA not a bjj contest with a gi on, and he thinks he’s an over all better MMA fighter than penn, we’ll see.

by nathan on Jan 22, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

he cut and paste it from sherdog LMAO!

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jan 22, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, funny how the 1st episode of Spike’s Primetime Live: GSP vs. Penn, turned out to be dead on. I don’t need to say anything about it though. I think all the world knows who and what BJ Penn is and is about.

by Doh! on Jul 3, 2009 3:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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