Fedor on his physique and fighting 'the best fighters in the world to date'

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Quoteworthy:
"All of my training is the same. Every fighter has a different physique and different baggage they bring to the ring. I don't rely on weight training. I haven't for several years. It's really more focusing on the opponent and working on sparring, wrestling and certain activities I do. It's all about the training camp. All the hard work and all the results that show up in the ring is a result of what's done before.... Vadim [Finkelstein] is my friend, he's my partner and he's very well qualified and he's proven himself as a good manager. He's got a track record of building my career and collaborating with major organizations, which has afforded me the opportunity to fight the best fighters in the world to date. Everyone has their duties in this business. My role is to fight. Vadim's role is to deal with people like Dana White."
The last man to hold the Pride FC heavyweight title and current WAMMA heavyweight champion, Fedor Emelianenko, talks about his less than menacing plump appearance. But as we all know when it comes to "The Last Emperor," looks are downright deceiving. He takes on Andrei Arlovski in the main event at Affliction" "Day of Reckoning" on January 24. It's a fight against a world-ranked opponent, which was not the case for several years after defeating Mirko Cro Cop in late 2005 (sans Tim Sylvia in July 2008).
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NO morning conversation today, just a serious question!:
If mania could get us a block of seats, or we designated someone “in charge,” how many regulars (probably 2 dozen or so of us) would consider a trip to an event all together? We could get a block of seats, there’s 2 beds in a room, so get 10 or 12 rooms, and all take in an event together? I know I’ve never been live, and have grown a re-pore with most of you! Let me know what you guys think?!
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
your in cali make it down to affliciton, you may never get the chance to see fedor fight live again.
by roy on Jan 19, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not even buying the event, never mind going to this one! I’ll stream the main event! I’m talking a group of educated guys! I get 5 weeks off, so it’s easy for me, I want to set a date maybe in the summer or fall that can accommodate everyone! I knew you’d be in Roy, right!
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FYI Mania Hunt was ranked when they fought
by R/p on Jan 19, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cant wait to see the progress of Fedor’s newest training partner Mousasi in the next couple of years.
Mousasi is DONE at middleweight! Right now he weighs 217 lbs and is only interested at fighting at 205 lbs. I just read an interview with him in which he states that he believes that he will fight the winner of Babalu vs. Sokoudjou at Afflictions 3rd show.
The reason for his increase in weight is that his growing body can no longer hold the middleweight frame. His goal is to bulk up to 235 lbs and move up to heavyweight in about 2 years.
There are great match ups for mousasi at 205:
Bablau
Sokoudjou
Tito
Nog
Matyshenko
by john on Jan 19, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
alright guys, I’m off to bed, I’ll pose the question again when I’m on early (my wife was home from work today MLK).
John, I posted the odds for you below, betus has them!
if you guys are thinking we could all get together for a live event (vegas maybe) let me know!
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John- While I think a move to LHW will further his career more than staying at 185, I’m disappointed to see him leave the division. I really think he could take it to Anderson Silva and beat him.
But as you pointed out, there are a ton of great matchups for him at LHW in Affliction. Hopefully once that goes under by the end of this year, he and Fedor will go to UFC. Highly doubtful though. But I think Mousasi takes it to all those guys. Hes very well rounded, and most of those guys, aside from Nog, are (in a VERY narrow minded look) one-dimensional. Babalu is a ground guy, Soko a stand up (judo background notwithstanding) and Tito a ground guy.
2009 will be Gegard’s breakout year!!
by Synyster [[2009 Year of Gegard Mousasi]] on Jan 19, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Afflictions third show. That’s funny. Sadly Afflictions 2nd and last show will be this weekend.
by DDT on Jan 19, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Synster: I dont disagree at all! Mousasi is also pissed that he cant find good match ups at 185 lbs. He was trying to get a fight with akiyama, but he said that Akiyama declined. I am a big fan of Mousasi, I think he will continue to improve and be a force at what ever weight class he choses to fight in.
Training with Fedor wont hurt either!
Thanks Kev!
by john on Jan 19, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that you would even have the balls to send him a text message sayng that.
by Ade on Jan 19, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats badass mousassi is a wicked fighter and i think he has what it takes to easily become a contender at lhw
by Jared on Jan 19, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean that he is dealing with Dana White right now to get your ass in the UFC ? Hopefully so
by See What Had Happend Was !!!! on Jan 19, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No I think that basically means the opposite, thats Fedor’s way of saying he will not be fighting in the UFC and we can all blame Finkelstein.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 19, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who dost the UFC even have to offer that would be worthy at this point? Perhaps Lesnar down the road, but otherwise who? Mir? Couture? Nog 3? Please.
I will grant that some of the up and comers in the UFC might have potential, but as of today, there is not a single fight worthy enough to fight Fedor. In time though, Fedor will run out of opponents (or lose) and the UFC will produce some quality, and I think Fedor will have to come to the UFC, but those clamoring to have it happen right away are not looking at reality.
by noneed4name on Jan 19, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know man. If Josh and Overeem sign with the UFC I think Fedor should follow suit. Those are his to biggest non UFC fights for him right now.
by rctrue on Jan 19, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
josh.. as in barnett? i cant see him wanting to be in the UFC. overeem though.. maybe.
by josh on Jan 19, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Other then Brock, there are no interesting fights for Fedor in the UFC.
However outside the uFC he has some top comp waiting for him:
Barnett
Arlovski
Werdum
Overeem
Bigfoot
by john on Jan 19, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
overeem is UFC bound (obviously ) and bigfoot sucks. he’s fighting AA this weekend which leaves Barnett! Werdum doesn’t deserve a shot against Philqny, never mind fedor!
It’s amazing to me that he doesn’t train weights and is so dominant and strong! It’s like he’s giving his opponents an advantage!
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
overeem is hopefully going to the ufc(not there yet),werdum is a soldid hw regaurdless of getting caught and bigfoot may be good still has something to prove but far from sucks.
by roy on Jan 19, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who would u want to see him fight then?
GOnzaga? Carwin? Dont say Frank MIr! Kongo?
I have been waiting half a decade to see Fedor vs. Barnett and affliction is promising it to us for their next show as long as Fedor beats Arlovski. Much love to Affliction for providing me with a chance to see Fedor beat up on former UFC champions!
by john on Jan 19, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Barnett definitely, then, weight train and go to LHW! I feel it makes sense!
GG is over rated, mir is a possibility, his jits is good, but I think he’d get ko’d, Kongo is a joke, down the line lesner (who fedor will murder!
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I hear that Mir vs. Lesnar will go down at UFC 98
Also, Bobby lashly would like to fight brock! THat is a fight that I would be very interested in seeing.
by john on Jan 19, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YO Maniacs!!! Can anyone provide the odds to this weekends Affliction event?
by john on Jan 19, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AA +235 worth a small bet
Fedor -375 risk doesn’t equal with reward
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Barnett-650 anyone who bets this is not a gambler or just dumb!
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Vitor +140 good bet
lindland -180
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who wouldnt wanna fight brock if they were in lashley’s position? he’d get murdered hardcore the dude might be “big” but hes not brocks size nor strength and not the talented wrestler brock is..
fedor vs mir (the mir that fought nog) would be a killer fight
fedor vs couture would sell insane numbers
fedor vs overeem in an octagon would be pretty cool but they might need to make it bigger
fedor vs carwin wouldnt be to bad either
fedor vs brock would probably turn into brock dry humping him for 25 mins nonetheless would sell insane numbers
by randy murders on Jan 19, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Odds are I’ll be spending cash on the BJ PENN/GSP fight instead.. but then again odds are I’ll buy a few beers and talk myself into it at the last minute.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 19, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yo John, betus has the odds for:
Fedor at -375
AA at +235
Vitor at +140
Linland at -180
Josh Barnett at -650
Yvel at +375
And those are the only 3 fights betus has for betting.
by The Anomaly on Jan 19, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh crap, I think Kevin’s post was moderated or something, or I just didn’t freakin see it.
by The Anomaly on Jan 19, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Barnett in his recent interview made out that he has no problem being the UFC, business is business as far as he is concerned. Dana White has a problem with him being in the UFC. Barnett is at least number three in the world (I personally think he second only to Fedor) and Dana is letting his personal issues get in the way of fans not being able to see him fight. Very professional and in the next breath he talks about giving the fans what they want. Wanker.
by Ade on Jan 19, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THanks for the odds boys! Im not letting the Fedor odds scare me away. Im going to bet at least 2 stacks on Fedor!
I also want to bet on Kiril Sidelinkov!
by john on Jan 19, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where john? betus has a 500 dollar limit! better open an account in your girls name, and your brother and your dog! lol, that’s the problem with betus, the max mma bet!
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not touching any of that, its all suspect.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 19, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin is right on one thing though, if there is a fight on this card worth betting on, its Vitor vs Lindland, but I still see Lindland dry humping Belfort to a UD so I can’t really bring myself to touch that one either.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 19, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t touch any fights simply because the NFL has cost me just over 10k in the last month! This after being up a bundle in Nov. Damn gamnbling
by kevin on Jan 19, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bet Kiril!
I know Kev about BetUs….On the occasions when I want to bet big, I transfer funds in a couple of my friends accounts. Its easier then having 3 or 4 accounts on BetUS under your name!
by john on Jan 19, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For starters, worthy opponents would be the guys that destroyed CC and Nog, something Fedor couldn’t do. Why do people keep assuming there is no competition for Fedor in the UFC. Those same people said the same thing about many other Pride fighters (including CC and Nog)and we now know that is NOT the case. Actually I knew that was never the case.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a heavyweight so you dont have to trim all the fat off unless you’re a LHW.
by c-war on Jan 19, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is jus so taalented that he can easily overcome size and strength disadvantages. He’s just that good.
by DB on Jan 19, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree with the above 2 comments. Though I’m not sure about a strength disadvantage (at least a functional one). He may not be able to say bench press as much as Lesnar, but I would like to see their punching power measured with one of those machines (sorry the name escapes me). He has muscle, it is just hidden under a higher fat percentage than some fighters, but it doesn’t affect his agility or quickness, so it is not a factor.
by Victory is Ours on Jan 19, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are referring to the Team Kimbo Slice punching machine that we saw last week or so? :)
by Graham on Jan 19, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO! I hope Mania follows up on the sales stats on that machine in a month or two!
by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 19, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Mania. No Happy Martin Luther King Day thread. That’s racism. Just Foolin. :)
by DB on Jan 19, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Frank Trigg coverage is close enough.
by marshal on Jan 19, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the US fans want to see the fighters that are shredded up. Take Tim Sylvia for example. Good fighters with very few fans. Combine that with his inability to speak english and he is not a major draw to casual fans. That is why the UFC doesn’t need him. Look how long it is taking for Anderson Silva to become a household name and he has decent body type.
by Donny on Jan 19, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with what your saying, but I think its more the english.
by JV on Jan 19, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn’t had to take “Physique enhancing drugs” to look good for the professional wrestling circuit (WWE), so large trapezius muscles, latissimus muscles and ripped abs weren’t important.
I heard there was a new guy in town that that used to look like that…hmmm
by Wags on Jan 19, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
are you talking about Josh Barnett there doc? Josh Barnett who still IS in pro wrasslin and HAS tested positive for steroids in his mma career unlike a certain fighter who quit pro wrasslin years ago and has never tested positive in mma career. i find it kind of ironic that people will bag on Brock, but nut over barnett. :)
by b.w. on Jan 19, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s because Brock was smart and got on that designer stuff(HGH). It’s a better product and they can’t test for it yet! Smart on his part. Barnett was dumb like Sherk, Leben and others who used anabolic steroids. Harder on your body and you get busted. Lesnar has it figured out.
by Diceman on Jan 19, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why cant we all just limit steroid accusations to the fighters who Test positive?
by john on Jan 19, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Diceman: you can make the hgh arguement for every single mma fighter alive. you can make that arguement for every pro-athelete, nobody tests for it. not the nfl, not mlb, not the nba, nobody. that makes it a moot point and a non-issue to me.
by b.w. on Jan 19, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the test for HGH is your hormone level would be 10 times higher then a normal persons.. you CAN test for HGH its just much harder.. but go look at him in college and high school the dude was huge back then too just add a couple more years of weight training and you get a scientific monster.. look at overeem he gaines what 90 lbs since chuck knocked him out?
by randy murders on Jan 19, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I’ll tell you what, I won’t make any more accusations of roid usage after this post because we can’t prove it. I can understand the frustration of people accusing someone you like of juicing when there’s no way to prove it. Hopefully that’s fair enough with everyone. Since I have my one post though, I wanna point a few things out….
If you don’t think it’s possible, or even likely, that Brock has juiced(or is juicing) I think you’re kidding yourself. I’m betting the same guys on here that say Brock hasn’t or doesn’t juice would call Barry Bonds out on it in a second. Yes, Brock was a monster back then, but he was definitely training just as hard in college as he was in the WWE and more than likely now even. You don’t get that big and that ripped naturally. Just like Bonds didn’t start magically hitting 70 home runs and adding 50 pounds of muscle drinking protein shakes. Have you ever seen Brock when he’s questioned about steroids? He acts the exact same way everyone who uses or has used steroids does. b.w.-you’re right, you could make the argument about any other athlete, and I would be willing to bet money on some of the people I think juice. The reason I mentioned Brock is because you brought him up. Whatever though, I don’t think I’m going to change anyone’s mind, the people that think he has and/or is will continue to think so, and those that don’t think so aren’t going to be changed by anything I say.
by Diceman on Jan 19, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And if he was indeed arrested on suspicion of steroids, but released after they tested it and realized it was growth hormone as stated below…that would confirm everything I’ve said.
by Diceman on Jan 19, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Diceman- the charges were dropped b/c it was found to be a legal supplment (check wiki if you don’t belive me), so it does not confirm anything you have said. do i think brock has used illegal performance enhancers in the past? most likely. but that is in the past. i live in the here and now. im not kidding myself about anything, i call’ em like i see’em. you seem pretty defensive yourself, did i hit a sore spot?
by b.w. on Jan 19, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
b.w.- Someone probably went on a roid rage and beat up diceman. That’s why he’s so sensitive.
by LJ on Jan 19, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been beat up a few times, but I don’t think they were ever roid ragin. I do have a body builder friend that juices all the time that’s why I’m interested in who’s taking what. b.w.-no sore spot, I’m just saying look at the facts. He was evidently caught with what they thought were steroids, but turned out to be growth hormone. Growth hormone(HGH-human growth hormone) is legal, and people can get prescriptions for it. Like I mentioned below, several entertainers have admitted to using them. Sports Illustrated did a large piece on this a while back. While they are legal they are still a performance enhancing drug, just like almost every other substance on the banned substance lists. They’re usually not illegal, just banned by the league, athletic commision, etc. So yes, Brock at least did used to use growth hormones, which would be a performance enhancing drug. And by all accounts they are just as powerful as pretty much any other steroid they just have less side effects.
by Diceman on Jan 19, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey . . . that sounded like he doesn’t think very highly of Dana.
by PW on Jan 19, 2009 12:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah right… what about Hunt? Hunt was coming to that fight after victories over CC and Wanderlei. Zulu’s first fight in Price was with Fedor. Before that he had a record of 36-0 in Brazil. So Pride’s management actually thought that Zulu would beat Fedor. Then Lindland, which lost a split to Rampage prior fight with Fedor. BTW, it was suppose to be Randy fighting Fedor back then not Lindland. HMC and Brock were the same lever fighters when Fedor fought HMC.
by zheka on Jan 19, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is that the same Zulu that fought Rickson Gracie years ago? I always wondered.
by noneed4name on Jan 19, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a hater but that picture is gay…………….
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 19, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever posted a comment without using an exclamation point!
Punctuation is not your friend!
by Tyler on Jan 19, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AHHHHHH! Tyler, why are you on my nuts? I thought you were the “ADULT” that was to classy to respond to my posts? Oh and yea…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by JV on Jan 19, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody has a mancrush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 19, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PW on Jan 19, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My name is JV! I talk like this! I hope you like it!
by brendan on Jan 19, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of his pictures our gay. One day he’s wearing Mickey Mouse ears, and the next he’s posing for gay porn above.
by LJ on Jan 19, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m curious as to why Fedor’s obliteration of Tim is relegated to a parenthetical aside. I mean, seriously, the guy leveled Tim Sylvia after fighting a few above average cans. Andrei’s resume in the same time is far less impressive and includes two losses to Tim, but you wouldn’t guess it by the coverage he receives. You’d guess Adrei was fighting the world’s best and taking their heads off in round 1 while Fedor was beating street thugs on the judge’s scorecards. It’s upsetting how the talking points trotted out by the most ignorant MMA fans end up effecting coverage.
by Clayton on Jan 19, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its called “Fedor Haters”.
If Fedor demolished Arlovski you can bet Arlovski will be regulated to “can” status or “UFC dropout” by the haters very quickly and again we will hear plenty about Fedor not having fought any top contenders.
I love the UFC for what is has and is doing for the sport, but Dana has convinced the thoughtless masses that anything non-UFC is substandard. Gimme a break, we are not there yet.
by noneed4name on Jan 19, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True That! Dana always says about Fedor,“How can he say he’s the best unless he’s fought the best”. Well if that’s the reasoning then none of the UFC heavyweight champions can claim to be the best in the world until they fight Fedor.
by MrFyer on Jan 19, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AH, Timmy hasn’t been able to buy a win lately, except against a one armed Vera(who can’t win a fight himself). I think AA has looked more well rounded than ever and impressive lately, so if Fedor demolishes him it will be a huge accomplishment and I will give him full respect for doing so. One could turn it around and say AA haters aren’t giving him respect just because he drop 2 fights to Timmy. What looked to be another slaughter of Sylvia, ended in AA getting over zealous and running into Tim’s upper cut and the next fight AA didn’t even show up ala GSP-Serra 1. The facts remain the same, AA was KOing guys before and AFTER that (minus Werdum)so he is a very dangerous opponent for any one, including Fedor. If Lindland and Fugita can tag Fedor, than AA’s pin point striking sure can and AA hits WAAAAAAAAAY harder than them. Not many have survived that right hand of AA’s and his 75% T(KO) wins are proof of that. If AA come’s in scared like most of Fedor’s opponents have the he has already lost the fight, but if he is confident I see history being made with Fedor suffering his first real loss.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely, many people unfairly doubt AA’s ability. The guy’s a fantastic fighter, but compared to Fedor he has a lot to prove.
by Clayton on Jan 19, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(Yawn) Wake me up when Fedor makes it to the big leagues and does something that matters in an org that will last. Hell, even Strikeforce is more relevant than Affliction. Strikeforce actually knows what they are doing.
by Graham on Jan 19, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Graham, i am suprised it has been all day that this comment has been disregarded… that’s it, just suprised no one has pounced!
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 19, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor’s record is always followed with who has he beaten? Well lets compare to Randy: Tim Sylvia, Gonzaga, Chuck once in three tries, Tito and has a bunch of losses to other good fighters like 1/3 of his fights he has lost.
Fedor: 28-1 the one loss was by cut and was avenged. He has 2 wins over big Nog, two over a younger Coleman, Cro Cop in his prime, Kevin Randalman after being suplexed, Bob Sapp, and Tim Sylvia in 36 seconds. If you add AA to that list I don’t see how anyone could not put Fdor as number 1 p4p. Everyone else has lost more than once.
by hatteras on Jan 19, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s bizarre and seemingly never ending.
by Clayton on Jan 19, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually, based on octagon experience, nog, coleman, and crocop don’t look that great on a resume. nog beat tim and then got stopped for the first time in his career by mir; coleman left the ufc after 4 straight losses; crocop did terrible in the ufc (i don’t buy this “in his prime” nonsense); randleman is a juice monkey who left the ufc on similar terms that coleman did; and bob sapp has always been irrelevant.
don’t get me wrong, fedor’s record is impressive. but it starts to look less impressive when the people he’s beaten are getting beat by lower level ufc guys.
by JB on Jan 19, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hatteras, to me the problem is being consistant. Fedor is just now following up with another top HW in AA. But in 2007 he fought Lindland (a MW) and Choi (freakshow) And you say a younger Coleman? It was 2006 with would make Coleman what 42? Thats why I dont think hes #1 P4P!
by JV on Jan 19, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
as long as you know he is the #1 hw who cares about p4p
by roy on Jan 19, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he would be the #1 HW Roy. But I still say that a guy like Fedor should fight only top guys to keep that status!
by JV on Jan 19, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who are the top guys he should fight in your mind, is aa and barnett good enough for now?
by roy on Jan 19, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
roy: No matter who he fights, his opponents will never be good enough for his haters.
by Clayton on Jan 19, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats true clayton, as soon as he beats them they make a new excuse.
by roy on Jan 19, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone, BUT ONE of Randy’s fights have been title fights, so there is no question he fought the best there was to offer. Fedor has fought at least 10 CANS that he shouldn’t have even wasted his time with ,nor should one treat them as a gleaming badge of honor. Fedor is really only 18-1 (comparetively BJ, Silva, Randy and GSP never had the luxury of padding their records with so many cans). No doubt Fedor has beaten a FEW top ten guys, but he didn’t finish them and the majority have been middle of the roaders like Hunt 5-5 and Herring 28-14. CC and Nog don’t constitute all the top HW fighters and guys like Coleman and Randleman were getting destroyed in the UFC long before even going to Pride, so there is little weight in beating them. All I’m saying is there is a lot of truth to the statement, “If you aren’t losing, you aren’t fighting the right guys” and Fedor’s record is very deceiving with the VAST majority of wins coming from UTTER CANS or middle of the road or lower guys. Like I’ve said before if Fedor can blow through a guy like AA then I will change my tune, but if it is even close then there are plenty of guys in the UFC with equal tallent to AA who bring different problems for Fedor to solve. I have seen Mir destroy Nog and GG destroy CC, yet I can’t say I have seen Fedor finish either one on 4 attempts. It probably seems as if I don’t like Fedor, but that is far from the truth. I just go against the dogma that Fedor will beat everyone when in my oppinion he hasn’t even faced the WELL ROUNDED guys who could cause him problems. I don’t know how some could argue against the fact that CC and Nog are really just one trick ponies. GG alone has a better complete game than either one of them. It’s no doubt CC didn’t look good when he fough GG. He had never met with anyone who had just as deadly if not more deadly a kick as him, couple that with a MUCH superior ground game and the results were obvious. Affliction is going to go tits up, so I hope Fedor will smarten up and get his ass in the UFC so he can trully solidify his legacy one way or the other.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny that you count Randleman as legit victom for Fedor yet don’t mention Randy beating him. Also you mention an old washed up Coleman on Fedors list, yet neglect to add 2 guys to Randy’s list who BEAT Coleman in his PRIME (Pedro Rizzo and Maurice Smith)and Randy has beaten both of them (Rizzo twice). Randy also beat Horn and Vitor Belfort (twice) once in his prime when everyone thought he was going to be unstoppable. When Randy Beat Tim, he was champion, not on a losing skid. Bob Sap is a nobody and Royce Gracy showed a long time ago that it isn’t much of a feat for a trained 175 lb guy to dismantle an untrained giant. Yeah Fedor has a more impressive record, but while Fedor was honing his skills on CANS and racking up his win column, Randy jumped right into the deep end as a pure wrestler and fought nothing but title fights so it’s no wonder he has some losses. Both Randy and Fedor have deceptive records,for opposite reasons.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gord, that was a bad@ss post! I agree 100%
by JV on Jan 19, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of sloppy physiques, why doesn’t Jeremy Horn cut down to welterweight. I know he’s fought at LHW and obviously MW, but he always looks like he could loose a few pounds. I think he could make 170 relatively easily and be dominant in that division.
by Nate on Jan 19, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeremy Horn, although great, has had TOO many fights…
by Chadx23 on Jan 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bj penn isn’t the most built lw
Kenny florian looks like he’s anorexic
2 top lws in ufc
by phenomenal angel on Jan 19, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is the best fighter in the world. Randy would get owned within a min. If you think Fedor hasent fought top contenders, that you should take a look at brock fucking lesner. That dude fought 2 fights and he is now a ufc heavyweight champion, How stupid does that look ?
by ila on Jan 19, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Try 4 fights and it looks pretty damn impressive, considering how many CANS Fedor fought before he challenged himself to tougher competition. Brock was given a short cut, but he still beat the champ who has proven himself, even if you don’t care to realize it. What leads you to think Fedor would own a well rounded guy like Randy in 1 minute, when he couldn’t finish a one dimensional and GASSED guy like Cro Cop. Randy doesn’t gas and he would own CC in the first round, he proved that when he beat GG who has better striking than CC and a much more well rounded game. Man I hope AA can pull it off, i’m sick of listening to how Fedor will kill all these top guys when all I have seen is decision after decision against less well rounded top guys. It’s not like Fedor did anything new buy destroying a washed up Timmy who didn’t know what hit him, because Mir and AA did the same thing when Timmy was in his prime. The blue print to beat Timmy has been out for years, smother him in the first few seconds and he is done. It worked for Randy too, he just didn’t have the submission skills to tap him out like Mir, AA and Fedor, so he had to take the long route and just stay on him the whole fight. Maybe Fedor can beat Randy, but he hasn’t shown it by beating anyone with the same skill set (don’t even mention Coleman or Randelman)and it sure wouldn’t be easy. If Fedor puts it off long enough, sure he will destroy a 50 year old Couture. If the fight doesn’t happen in the next year it will be pointless. Fedor owes it to the fans to fight the fights they want to see, because ultimately they are the ones who line his pockets. Even Matt Hughes realizes that.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Gord! You are right on the money….. I don’t ever hate on Fedor but you do put things into perspective.
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 19, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fedor destroyed herring in one round, who went three rounds with the current champ(lesner)who then destroyed randy in two rounds. guys you can go round and round with this shit. fedor is good damn good, as well as randy.
by jim jeffries on Jan 20, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First off, the first round in Pride is 10 minutes, so that is like 2 rounds in the UFC. Second,my point was simply that there is no evidence that Fedor would destroy Randy in one minute. I agree with you jim that they are both damn good, but maybe you didn’t notice, ila DOESN’T, hense my argument.
by Gord on Jan 20, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My p4p list
1 Kid yamamoto
2 miguel torres
3 lyoto machida
4 fedor emeliananko
5 gsp
6 anderson silva
7 bj penn
8 rashad evans
9 forrest griffin
10 urijah faber
I would say 4 5 6 are arguable, and tho urijah just lost I think he still up there
by phenomenal angel on Jan 19, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Forrest Griffen in the top 10 P4P list!???
Evans and Kid need to go too.
by SoCalStunNa on Jan 19, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Machida is very good, but not as tested as the others in the list. He will earn that rank when he finally fights for a title. Fighting Tito to a draw does not put you above gsp, anderson, and BJ.
by Nate on Jan 19, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lool?
GSP, Anderson Silva and BJ in 456?
Do you watch MMA?
by ShaiZ on Jan 19, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does “lool?” mean? just curious…….
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 19, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will this p4p crap ever go away? What gods need praying to?
by Clayton on Jan 19, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its funny, people were saying that if Fedor had lost to Sylvia then he would have been beaten by a quality opponent, but since he did in 36 seconds what Randy couldn’t do in 25 minutes, it was due to the ‘fact’ that Sylvia was/is a garbage fighter. The Same will happen with the outcome of this fight and every fight until Fedor is in the UFC, which doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t since he’s beaten how many UFC champions now?
As for the P4P crap, really needs to go away, its almost as bad as an Anderson Silva fight, you hear that crap more than ever from Goldberg during a Silva fight, to the point where you can make it a drinking game.
by Belisarius on Jan 19, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
liver shot, liver shot, liver shot
by O damn he got caught on Jan 19, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good question! In the past 5 years, Fedor is 5-0 against one-time UFC heavyweight champions.
by Clayton on Jan 19, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wake up, he has never beaten a ufc champ. Fedor is a sham.
by Paniczoo on Jan 19, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Paniczoo, he’s beaten several one-time UFC champs. In fact, his overall record is 6-0 against one-time UFC champs.
by Clayton on Jan 19, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Duh, former champs and years after they lost their belt. That was my point. He can fight Ali next and be crowned hw boxing king.
by Paniczoo on Jan 20, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Randy has beaten UFC champions and Fedor has beaten EX UFC champions that were deemed UNWORTHY to even be considered UFC material, let alone champions. BIG difference. When a fighter keeps losing like Coleman, Randelman and Timmy the UFC sends them packing. I don’t see the merrit in beating UFC trash. Stick to Fedor beating CC and Nog, at least they were winning before they came to the UFC. You could look at the flip side of that too, Randy has shown he can own Timmy for 25 min, but Fedor did exactly what AA did the first fight and look what happened in rematches. I think Fedor would have proven more if the fight lasted a little longer,but it was an impressive display none the less, yet no more impresive than Mir’s or AA’s destruction of Sylvia.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gord, nobody even has a response or rebuttle for you……
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 19, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone mentioned earlier about Brock Lesner and steriods. He has a file on The Smoking Gun http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lesnarmug1.html for anyone who is interested.
by Tommy B on Jan 19, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And if you actually read the accompanying article you would know that Lesnar was exonerated (that means he didn’t do anything wrong) because the pills were tested and found to not actually be steroids.
by PW on Jan 19, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, growth hormone, not steroids. You know the drug of choice for such athletes as Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. They are not illegal to take as many actors(Stallone) and rappers(50 Cent, now Nelly and Dr. Dre) take them. But they are a performance enhancing drug none the less.
by Diceman on Jan 19, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The police had Lesnar and his stash in custody, so had they been any illegal substance he would have been charged instead of being apologized to.
by PW on Jan 19, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PW-read my comment again…growth hormone is NOT illegal, it is however a performance enhancing drug. Do you guys never read Sports Illustrated or watch ESPN? How can you not know the difference between “designer” steroids(growth hormones, the stuff Bonds and others have used) and anabolic steroids? Growth hormones are NOT illegal so long as you have a prescription, but they are definitely performance enhancing drugs. As soon as they have a reliable and less invasive method of testing for them athletes that use them will be screwed. They are looked down upon in the entire sports community and are considered just as wrong as shooting any other steroid in your ass. Look at a list of banned substances in ANY sporting league and you’ll find plenty you can go into GNC and buy. The fact that they’re legal doesn’t have crap to do with it.
by Diceman on Jan 19, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol like I said
In my opinion
Maybe not for sure but my thoughts
by phenomenal angel on Jan 19, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor had how many title fights in pride?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCN-sa-gKzc&feature=related
This is the greatest fighter of all time. He is a skilled monster. Heavy hands, good takedowns ground and pound, his submissions and chokes finish guys. He can wrestle, strike, jiu jitsu is great. He will KO AA and then what who in the UFC do you want him to beat? Mir? Lesnar? Who must he beat to be good in your eyes? It is not like he ducked anyone in pride he beat the best they had and now has dropped Sylvia. After AA then what? If he destroys AA he deserves all the hype he gets.
by hatteras on Jan 19, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is the best. Even after not being 100% ready for a fight and winning against AA the way he did, no questions. However, Fedor should clearly decide what his priorities are. He is famous as a greatest fighter and not as a prima donna. He gotta train hard and get 100% ready instead of taking parts in movies at expense of his training. After all, it is his fighting fame that brings him roles, not the other way around. I love Fedor but I was really worrying for him during that fight. AA looked really crisp and good with his hands. Nevertheless, I was amazed at how quickly he TKOed AA. I had to watch it few times later to see how it was done. I just see AA punching Fedor and oops, he is lying face down:) Poor Andryshka, I feel sorry for him however. They are all our guys.
by Sergei on Feb 21, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is the best. Even after not being 100% ready for a fight and winning against AA the way he did, no questions. However, Fedor should clearly decide what his priorities are. He is famous as a greatest fighter and not as a prima donna. He gotta train hard and get 100% ready instead of taking parts in movies at expense of his training. After all, it is his fighting fame that brings him roles, not the other way around. I love Fedor but I was really worrying for him during that fight. AA looked really crisp and good with his hands. Nevertheless, I was amazed at how quickly he TKOed AA. I had to watch it few times later to see how it was done. I just see AA punching Fedor and oops, he is lying face down:) Poor Andryshka, I feel sorry for him however. They are all our guys. Hope he will be back soon too.
by Sergei on Feb 21, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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