UFC Quick Quote: Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua before and after UFC 93
by Jesse Holland on Jan 18, 2009 12:09 PM EST
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Coming into UFC 93 talking to Five Ounces of Pain:
"[Coleman] is a great wrestler but I think I’m better at jiu-jitsu and striking. Plus, I have better cardio. I think it’s a good match up for me in theory. I feel great. I’m well-trained, in good shape and have little weight to cut for the fight. I’m feeling fast, my cardio is good and I have been working a lot on my power."
Following UFC 93 at the post-fight press conference:
"I stayed sidelined for one year and a half. I went through surgeries. That is not easy, and that took a lot of my conditioning. It’s one thing to train and another thing to fight. When you get back to fighting, you have to get back your rhythm. I paid a price for that, but I’m sure that by my next fight, I’ll be more prepared and in better shape, with better conditioning, to give my fans a great show."
-Former PRIDE light heavyweight standout Mauricio Rua talks about his rematch against Mark Coleman at UFC 93 at The O2 Arena in Dublin, Ireland, on January 17. "The Hammer" defeated Rua in controversial fashion at PRIDE 31 back in 2006 when an awkward landing broke the Brazilian’s arm less than a minute into the fight. Shogun's quest for vengeance fell a bit short at Saturday's pay-per-view despite a TKO win after a dreadful performance made it nearly impossible for any fan in attendance to believe this was at one time a consensus top 5 light heavyweight and winner of the 2005 Pride FC Grand Prix Champion.
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I hope Chuck knocks this punk out… man, I used to like Shogun too
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Jan 18, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love it that a WINNER of a fight is making excuses, and that the long layoff is the excuse John keeps making! When was the last time Coleman fought John? How old is he John? How much weight did coleman cut John? By the way john, Coleman is coming off of a knee injury too, and the older you are, the longer it takes to heal!
Lastly, you know what you didn’t hear from the guy who lost…EXCUSES! Thats the most funny and pathetic thing about it all, the winner of the fight is the one making all the excuses while the loser is asking for a rematch and saying good fight!
DISCLAIMER: I’VE NEVER BEEN A CHUCK LIDDELL FAN:
In 3 months, Shogun can’t add much to his cardio (even though John says it’s easy), Chuck will win this fight in devastating manner! He will wait until the second and unload! Shogun will be forced to take a huge pay cut or simply be cut from the UFC!
I guess the UFC can no longer hype him as “best LHW in the world.”
maybe now in the promo it will be “the man who barely got by a 44 year old!”
by kevin on Jan 18, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually Coleman’s statements post fight were imo just as bad as making excuses…claiming the fight should not have been stopped and claiming the ref was terrible and that it must have been his first fight…low class imo and although he may not be making excuses for himself he is deflecting the blame to a third party…at one point he even uttered he was probably winning on the cards…please!!!I’m a fan of neither but Shogun is def the classier dude and deserved the win albeit sloppy…GSP GSP GSP
by McArthur on Jan 18, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
youre making a mistake writing him off right away… chuck has lost 3 of his last 4 fights! and youd rather write off the guy who has had two sub par performances lately? (not to mention he WON one of these fights) hes younger, more well rounded… youre going to be in for a shock come fight night
by brendan on Jan 18, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brendan, and what do you think would happen if Shogun fought the three guys Chuck lost too??? Instead he was givin an easy fight to look good in, and what happens he looks like sh*t!
by JV on Jan 18, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I said that when Forrest beat Shogun it was not because of how good Forrest was, it was because of how bad Shogun was, and this fight proved it. I am not a big Chuck fan and picked Jardine and Evans to beat him because I knew that they had the skill to do it. Shogun is going to get knocked out by Chuck and he is going to make Chuck look really good in the process. I think even Elvis Sinosic would beat him, and I mean that seriously. He was embarrasing to watch, and I really do feel sorry for all his fans who were saying that this is his year. He is going to be more of a dissapointment than Cro Cop was.
by Ade on Jan 18, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All I know is I went 8/8 gambling yesterday! Attack me all you want, but I still picked every winner!
btw, Shogun won, and he will beat CHuck! We can go back and fourth about this forever, but you guys are the ones that will hop back on his nuts after the Liddell fight!
by john on Jan 18, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you guys honestly believe that after last nights performance, Shogun is going to show up to fight a guy of Chuck’s caliber in the kind of shape he was in last night?
u guys will be very surprised! Remember that you heard it here 1st!
by john on Jan 18, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JOhn this, and john that. Get off my nuts Kevin! YOu were the idiot running around telling everyone how Coleman and Gumby were going to win, not me!
Then you are so blinded by my D*ck, that you are trying to go around stating that Coleman was going to win a decision if the fight wasn’t stopped? GOod one! Then you were running around talking as if Gumby did something cause he turtled up for 13 out of 15 minutes and achieved full mount for half a second? NO moral victories in this sport buddy!
I told you Shogun would win….Last I checked he won!
Im telling you that he will beat Chuck….Dont really care how he looks in the process as long as he keeps winning fights.
by john on Jan 18, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap, ive never seen anybody take anything so personal as you did in that post John. Although, this is one of your favorite fighters and the terrible possibility that he could never be the same is probably running through your head so cant blame you entirely, I cant imagin if I had to start considering that about Penn.
But honeslty John, you know this is lookin pretty bad for Shogun’s cause, and all of us thinkin he MIGHT be done as an elite are not just talkin $*&%, I mean he last two performances were TERRIBLE!!!
by The Anomaly on Jan 18, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont thi9nk he is done at all. He wasnt in shape…Thats all! Not a hard task to correct.
I was pissed when I wrote that post cause my Philly Eagles had just lost the NFC title game
by john on Jan 19, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck will not be GASSED and nearly pass out in the FIRST ROUND!!! Shogun should have put Coleman away right there and he didnt! We all know Shogun can do better, but why isn’t he!?! Coleman looks so crappy in that fight yet Shogun couldn’t put him away until the 3rd round lol! COlmean could barely stand up haha good stuff! No one will ever be afraid of Shogun again, just like no one is afraid of Chuck anymore. Please Dana give us Chuck vs. Shogun so I can see the Iceman get one last KO before retirement!
by Chadx23 on Jan 19, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the beginning I was pulling for Shogun and I had picked him to win. After I saw how pitifull he looked. I was actually hoping Coleman would knock him out. Yes that would have done damage to my picks, but it would have been worth it. I actually hope they send Shogun packing. Then he can go to Affliction. There he can be fat and get his @$$ kicked by Fedor for lots of money.
Sidenote: John sorry to hear about your Eagles, but it wasn’t in the Cards… GO CARDS.
by Grembone on Jan 19, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dang John, NOG, Eagles, and now Shogun, when it rains it poors. It’ll make it all that much sweeter when your boys get back on top though eh?
by The Anomaly on Jan 19, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
because you were made to believe he was a top 5 lhw and come to find out he’s not, he’s all of a sudden a punk? What has he done to deserve that? So he looked terrible and he realizes that, I don’t see why people can’t support the guy and hope he turns it around.
by midwestbred on Jan 18, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am aware of his record, but not a fan! I look at the whole body of work, in that, I include Ninja! Neither has been impressive lately! Even in pride, shogun’s cardio was suspect, as were performance enhancers! I hope you’re right midwestbred, but in 3 months, he won’t improve his cardio, and chuck will KO him!
I just read the best post on another site, a guy said he’d bet his house that sherk could beat shogun since he had no cardio or take down defense…priceless!
by kevin on Jan 18, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa. I don’t think Sherk would make it out of the first but damn, GSP would maul the Shogun of last night. I’m serious about that.
by RobH86 on Jan 18, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fuck chuck. i hope shogun knocks his ass out
by arton on Mar 3, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RUA…..Coleman had surgery,Colemans layoff was much longer……he is also old enough to be your dad,cOLEMAN DIDNT EVEN HAVE A REAL TRAINING CAMP…… you need to give up on the excuses
LAME ASS EXCUSES………………………….
Chuck is gonna hurt you
by texen_1 on Jan 18, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a difference between being healthy and being in fight shape. Anyone in any sport can tell game shape is completely different.
No doubt in my mind he beats Chuck
by R/p on Jan 18, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His performance actually made Forrest’s win over him less impressive. I’d like to see Coleman go back to HW and take on Couture in a battle of two UFC Hall of Famers.
by UFCAddict on Jan 18, 2009 12:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree. That is about the only fight I care to see either Coleman or Couture take part in.
by sirshannon on Jan 18, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF, Randy would destroy Colemen in 3 minutes. Randy still has better cardio than most 20 year olds and Coleman has 2 minutes of cardio. Hua has about 3 minute of cardio. Coleman looked like an 80 year old man in there and Shogun wasn’t far behind at 70. New viewers watching that fight, probably though they let just anyone fight in the UFC.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright universe, you win. I finally agree with Gord.
by The Anomaly on Jan 19, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao…weird things are happening in this thread
by --utaptout--..."The Prodigy's" 4th Biggest Hugger on Jan 19, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Shogun’s performance against Forrest was A LOT better than his performance against Coleman. If the Shogun that showed up against Coleman had fought against Forrest, he would be lucky to make it out of the second round.
by A.T. on Jan 18, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coleman looks like a tall skinny bird at LHW. Too bad Shogun wouldn’t go up to HW just for the Coleman fight. Coleman could barely even talk to Rogan after the fight.
by DF on Jan 18, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coleman and Couture should never happen. I’m not a big fan of Couture, and I hate Coleman with a passion, but Coleman shouldn’t even be allowed to breathe the same air as Randy. I’ll break it down:
Randy: Class act with the utmost respect for anyone he’s ever fought, who remains in good shape at 45 YO because he’s taken excellent care of himself his whole life. He went almost two rounds with Brock, and looked very good until the KO.
Coleman: A brash, cocky asshole, who hasn’t had a meaningful win since Clinton was in office. At 44 he looks tired and out of shape because he has taken lousy care of himself, and did MANY years of steroids, which has caught up to him and turned him into barely a shell of his younger self. If Coleman had fought Brock like he was supposed to before the “injury”, he probably wouldn’t be alive right now, and I mean that seriously. Imagine what that devastating right hand that he landed on Herring would have done to a slack jawed Coleman, who had his hands on his hips.
by --utaptout--..."The Prodigy's" 4th Biggest Hugger on Jan 18, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My exact thoughts. Coleman wouldn’t last a minute with Brock. There is no way Dana is going to let Coleman fight again after gassing in the first 2 minutes. That fight was an embarrassment to what is supposed to be a league of the elite.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh…can someone check the weather in hell? I think it might have just frozen over because Gord and I just agreed on something…lmao. Oh well…take this Gord! BJ
by --utaptout--..."The Prodigy's" 4th Biggest Hugger on Jan 19, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Work on that cardio, Son!!! The way he was gassing you would think this guy was smoking cigars between rounds and before the fight.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 18, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He better have good conditioning even though Chuck has been in a slump he has KO power in every round. I think Coleman had a great gameplan but luckily for Rua Colemans conditioning was even worse.
by Beaver on Jan 18, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Excuses for an ugly performance.
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Jan 18, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds to me like he realized he was just wrong about where his cardio was. It’s not really a bad excuse if it’s true. The guy gassed. Now let’s hope he hires on a decent strength and conditioning coach.
by Clayton on Jan 18, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This could be a good battle TheEder. I will expect Rua to be in shape for this one. Making this a possible exciting stand up battle were chuck win`s if he boxes and Rua if he gets in and uses his Muay Thai. Either way it should stay on the feet Liddell will want it that way for sure and he has one of the best takedown defences in the business.
by Beaver on Jan 18, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no doubt in my mind that he will return to his old form. I also am positive that he is going to FINISH chuck, either via Knees or submission! Cant wait to bet this fight because Shogun will be a nice sized underdog….and he will win the fight!
aCL injuries are NO Joke. Take the NFL for example. its commomn knowledge that when a nfl player suffers an acl injury, he is out for the season. He then usually plays the next season, but dont return to their form til the year after. nInjuries take time, but luckily Shogun is young so he will get back to the shogun of old!
No doubt about it!
THere really isnt anything Chuck can do to him. Chuck took wanderlei down but he wouldnt have the ballz to go to the ground against Shogun, and I see Shogun being able to take chuck down.
Standing up, Shogun’s chin will be able to withstand LIddell’s punches. But I doubt that Liddell’s chin can hold up to shogun’s knees.
Very happy that Shogun will have to start training right away for his next fight. Yesterday’s fight should have been a good measuring stick to show Shogun that he still has a lot of work to do to get back to top form but I honestly believe that he can get back to that form. Only areas shogun needs to improve on are cardio and takedown defense (although he is a monster off his back anyway)…those 2 holes in his game are very correctable!
Shogun will be back… nO Doubt! He will retire Chuck!
by john on Jan 18, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if the old shogun shows up, his attacking style will suit chuck, if the poor conditioned shogun shows up, it will also suit chuck, chuck will beat shogun no matter what! if coleman had some conditioning he could have beaten shogun, shogun couldnt even finish an exhausted coleman in the first, and shogun didnt get tired till the second, so a fresh shogun couldnt finish a hands down coleman begging to be knocked out! chuck by tko in the second!!
by jslim on Jan 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John, there is no way Shogun can take Chuck down, and if he does, Chuck will just get RIGHT back up. If there is anything I KNOW Chuck can still do that he hasnt lost with age, it is the ability to get off the ground.
by The Anomaly on Jan 18, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wrote that post after my Philadelphia eagles lost the game. THats why I was so fired up!
Idiots are talking like Shogun lost. He looked like crap but found a way to win. PERIOD!!!! dont know how he will look against Chuck, but he is going to find a way to win that fight also!
by john on Jan 19, 2009 8:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They come back the next year but arent themselves for another year… okay i will give you that, but Shogun doesnt get another year before he fight Chuck, he gets 3 months! We may never see the “old Shogun” again. I’m taking Chuck, because Shogun will gas after trying to take Chuck down for 2 rounds, and Chuck will eitehr catch him in the thrd or do enough to an exhausted Shogun to win a decision!
p.s. I’m not so sure Chuck will be favored in this
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Jan 18, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i believe he will, not necessarily because the odds makers consider him a better fighter, but because he is a fan favorite and will always suck in plenty of bets, making the odds favorable for his opponent
by brendan on Jan 18, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im with you man WAR SHOGUN, the dude comes off a huge layoff and obviously had ring rust and didnt have cardio but he’ll be back with a fight coming up in three months he should be training for atleast 5 months straight. but it pisses me off how ppl give up on fighters after one performance
by Jared on Jan 18, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, I hear that Chucks been training at various camps recently. By booking the fight so quickly, Shogun will have less time to recover and to prepare. Chuck however, will be feeling fresh and fine. I have my faith in Shogun.
by fightfan51 on Jan 18, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John-I almost always agree with you, but I gotta disagree on this one man. I’d be very surprised if we have the pleasure of seeing Shogun anywhere near his PRIDE self. Honestly, I don’t see him breaking into the top 5 fighters in the 205 division anytime soon, if ever. And questioning whether or not he’s a top 5 fighter in his division is a FAR cry from where he was in PRIDE. I hope you’re right, but I doubt it.
by Diceman on Jan 18, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whether shogun gets his cardio back or not the lack of him being able to kick/knee someone in the f*cking head when there down does have to hurt his chances of being at the top of 205 i mean look at half of his fights where he put those muy thai kicks to someone who was trying to get up. A couple of times when coleman was slumping i was like DON’T kick him in the head Shogun. I thought he was about to have some flashbacks or something I like shogun and his fight against forrest was much better although he gassed in that one too.(forrest was about dead too) but he looked pretty bad against coleman. He better not show up like that against chuck or it’s definately lights out
by damon on Jan 19, 2009 6:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John, this is an unhealthy love affair. I think we all need to stage an intervention. John……..It’s okay……….no, no…just listen…….John, it’s okay………………………………………………………….(whispering)John…………….It’s okay. You should be crying now and purging the hurt.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jan 18, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John, I seriously think you need to sit down and watch the Coleman fight again without the weed. It was embarrasing, as I said above, I doubt that he could beat Elvis Sinosic or probably even Jeremy Horn.
by Ade on Jan 18, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I only watched about half of the fight, but regardless I am not a bandwagon type like most of you. I roll with Shogun and I am not ready to believe that a 27 year, who’s sole problem is cardio is DONE!! Once he returns to form, all you nut huggers will instantly jump back on his cock, and thats really sad!
by john on Jan 18, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
john, your unconditional love for shogun is ridiculous just like that kevin guy here hates shogun for no reason.
by Lights Out on Jan 19, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im taking chuck by KO 2nd round after Rua gasses again after 5 min.
by rydinlow on Jan 18, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
these fights were pretty weak if u ask me they should of made them free
by The Philicutioner on Jan 18, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope Shogun spoils Dana’s plan. I can’t help but to think that Dana wants Chuck beat Shogun and Rampage to beat Jardine in an attempt to set up a rematch before either of them gets a title shot. I don’t really see why Rampage has to fight Jardine, and Chuck is getting love because he is Chuck by getting the opportunity to fight Shogun. Hopefully Shogun is really serious and comes into the fight with Chuck in good shape. Maybe if were lucky, we’ll get to see Shogun Vs Rampage II.
by fightfan51 on Jan 18, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the only way Dana would lose in those regard fighfan51 is if Jardine wins. Rampage vs Rua!! I’m sure Rampage would like to get revenge for the broken ribs Rua gave him
by Beaver on Jan 18, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage has publicly said he wants revenge for everyone that’s beaten him (we’ll give Sakuraba a pass though).
Rampage vs. Shogun II would be awesome, if Rua is in shape.
by Space on Jan 18, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been a shogun fan since his debut in pride…I have a few of his fights on dvd and especially his grandprix tournament performance from Final Conflict 2005…The only way I see Shogun winning is if his conditioning is superb…He is an aggressive fighter that never stops walking in front of you whether he is gassed or not…That can lead to his ultimate downfall against Chuck since the Iceman is an excellent counter puncher…Shogun wins the fight IMO..His last performance will make him stronger…Shogun by split decision (leg kicks will score big on the judges score card)
by Pride 4 Life on Jan 18, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His performance against Forrest didn’t make him stronger in his next fight. We’re talking Mark washed up Coleman here and Shogun didn’t look much better and at times looked worse. Am I the only one that thinks Ken Shamrock would destroy Coleman?
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you totally. Rampage should get the next shot at Shogun, so that he can get revenge on a second Shoot Box fighter that beat him. Chuck just got KTFO, how come he gets the shot. Dana is always kissing Chucks ass, that is why he did not give him either Vera, Jardine or Houston, beacuse they all would have probably beaten him and then Chuck ticket selling power would have prabably halved. Shogun lokked like shit against Forrest and even worse aginst an ageing Coleman and Dana sees an easy win for Chuck and a chance to build Chuck back up again. There really is no other reason for Rampage not to be getting a second shot at Shogun. Dana’s butt buddies always get looked after, remember Hughes v Lytle, wtf.
by Ade on Jan 19, 2009 4:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will see how his fight goes with Chuck before I give up hope
The first round was amazing, 2nd round wasn’t that bad until they gassed, Shogun also took some big shots from Coleman which couldn’t have helped his tank…
by CageFightingKip on Jan 18, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s just it though, as sloppy and SLOW as Coleman was, he was actually able to hit Rua. That is more than just bad cardio and it isn’t a good sign with only a few months before he faces a dangerous striker like Liddell. Chuck is going to destroy him.
by Gord on Jan 19, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuses, excuses just like when Coleman beat him the first time Shogun said he had problems..“I was getting married, baught a house”…they should be good times not bad ones.
Dana, kick Shogun out of the UFC if his performance against Liddell is bad just like you let Werdum go!!!!!!
by CaptainAmerica1967 on Jan 18, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Shogun…you used to be something special…now, your just shameful. One more fight like that and the UFC will drop you.
by sam on Jan 18, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sam, firstly mate the UFC awarded it co-fight of the night so I doubt they will drop him. For all the people who are surprised by a fighters pre and post fight comments changing, I urge you, go and get your DVD collection out …. it happens all the time. Oh, if you need an quick example, why not have a look at GSP v Serra 1 / 2 …
He’ll be ready for Chuck and at the end of the day, if he is not, he will get KO’d. Simple.
by DownUnder on Jan 18, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If shogun somehow comes up vicious and well conditionedi wonder how many fans will change their mind
by phenomenal angel on Jan 18, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with phenomenal angel…I’ve been a shogun fan since his debut in pride…I have a few of his fights on dvd and especially his grandprix tournament performance from Final Conflict 2005…The only way I see Shogun winning is if his conditioning is superb…He is an aggressive fighter that never stops walking in front of you whether he is gassed or not…That can lead to his ultimate downfall against Chuck since the Iceman is an excellent counter puncher…Shogun wins the fight IMO..His last performance will make him stronger…Shogun by split decision (leg kicks will score big on the judges score card)
by Pride 4 Life on Jan 18, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Even if shoguns cardio wasn’t absolute garbage, chuck would still ko his ass. Anyone who thinks shogun has a chance after his first two performances in the ufc are either completely biased towards shogun or are just plain dumb.
by LG on Jan 18, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with john. Shogun WILL have better cardio for Chuck cuz he sees it himself after his performance and he will make his top priority to improve his cardio.
by TheEder on Jan 18, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this would would happen to anybody that tears an ACL. does everyone think that cardio cant be fixed fairly easily if your a professional
by bigsmoke on Jan 18, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m still a fan. Sad to see people talking about him like this though.
In the end the division has improved a great deal since he was on top, and cardio or not he will have to improve his skill set (boxing) if wants to be a serious contender. He’s only 27 though so he’ll be around for a while, even if he does get smoked by Chuck.
by Fenrsz on Jan 19, 2009 2:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s moronic to complain that Shogun isn’t living up to any expectations and anyone thinking it’s whack that he was “ever in the top 5 consensus” are blowing smoke. Give the guy a break, he has TWO ACL SURGERIES..ON THE SAME LEG!! Those are not baby surgeries. Another thing, how is it that other top-tier fighters (Hendo, Kos, Machida) have gone to decision lately and they’re not judged poorly on their performance?? I think Shogun did fine, plus he finished the fight!! People put wayy to much pressure on Shogun.
by Big E on Jan 19, 2009 2:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
you lose any shot at credibility when you say that machida has not been criticized for going to decisions.
by jj on Jan 20, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun should be released just like Kaleb Starnes was realeased for poor performance… I have no desire to spend my $44.95 to see that pathetic performance out of Rua again… It’s a disgrace to the UFC to have this quality of a fighter in their Main Event lineups… I don’t think anybody expected a whole lot outta Coleman… Rua has no reason/excuse.!!!
by catdaddycoke on Jan 19, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please shogun..do us loyal fans a favor…either change your taining camp or take your training more seriously…mark delagrotte would do wonders for you so will the wand fight team….im 30 years old, smoke a pack of ciggs everyday and drink beer everyday and have way better cardio than you.
by danny_c on Jan 19, 2009 9:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yea his cardio is bad because he was forced out of action for 2 years since he had to get surgery on his knee twice. but its cool if you dont look up your facts first
by arton on Mar 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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